View Full Version : Kreuzer or Fraser?
Hodgepodge
12 Jun 2008, 15:36
They're saying Matthew Kreuzer is good enough to be the next Josh Fraser . . big raps, do you think he can live up to them? Anyway, who do you think would be the better player?
nutcase888
12 Jun 2008, 15:45
well if he only becomes as good as Josh Fraser i will be dissapointed.
didak04
12 Jun 2008, 15:49
well if he only becomes as good as Josh Fraser i will be dissapointed.
He hasn't shown anything to suggest that he will be the next Dean Cox. I think if he reaches Fraser's level he has done well, and that isn't saying that Fraser is a superstar, it's saying that i don't think Kruezer will ever be elite, just like Fraser has never become elite
why would he want to be the next fraser?
Jason_K
12 Jun 2008, 15:56
Fraser easily :thumbsu:
Kreuzer wishes he was like him.
black_hart
12 Jun 2008, 16:13
Both very similar players and Kreuzer is widely regarded as the next Josh Fraser.
Couldn't really split them.
Perhaps we should do something similar with Leuenberger/Cox as the berger is seen by most as the next Cox.
....Perhaps we should do something similar with Leuenberger..
What about Leuenberger V Street. Both similar types. :)
blues4flag
12 Jun 2008, 16:33
Fraser? :confused:
Kreuzer's heart and attack on the footy will see he never ends up being an average/slightly above average plodder like Josh Fraser. Kreuzer is on target to being one of the game's best ruckmen - just how far he goes, time will tell.
nutcase888
12 Jun 2008, 16:40
He hasn't shown anything to suggest that he will be the next Dean Cox. I think if he reaches Fraser's level he has done well, and that isn't saying that Fraser is a superstar, it's saying that i don't think Kruezer will ever be elite, just like Fraser has never become elite
yes after 11 games i think we can clearly see he is only going to be average.:rolleyes: nevermind that most draftees don't even play in their first year.
BacharHouli_43
12 Jun 2008, 16:51
I think if he reaches Fraser's level he has done well, and that isn't saying that Fraser is a superstar, it's saying that i don't think Kruezer will ever be elite, just like Fraser has never become elite
Good call:thumbsu: Most ruckmen are duds around the ground or in the ruck duels and offer very little with the exception of fraser, cox, white and maybe jolly... kreuzer will join that list soon after a year or two
Jason_K
12 Jun 2008, 16:52
yes after 11 games i think we can clearly see he is only going to be average.:rolleyes: nevermind that most draftees don't even play in their first year.
9 games actually.
They're saying Matthew Kreuzer is good enough to be the next Josh Fraser . . big raps, do you think he can live up to them? Anyway, who do you think would be the better player?
Fraser was doing the same stuff when he first started as kruezer is doing now.
In his first two years fraser looked like he would go on and be a brilliant player but because of poor support in the ruck he has just withered away badly.
He looks so old these days.
Who knows how kruezer will turn out but ill predict he will be better than fraser.
Magpies696
12 Jun 2008, 19:01
hard call first year
but yeah maybe
Adebayor
12 Jun 2008, 19:37
I think people forget how good Fraser was in his first 2 years. I doubt Kreuzer will match Fraser's record.
Will he improve more throughout his career? Carlton would hope so.