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Optimax
12 Jun 2008, 17:13
Mid-season report: Collingwood

By Jennifer Witham 2:03 PM Thu 12 June, 2008

Overall mark: B+
Win-loss: 7-4 WLWLLWLWWWW
Ladder position: Sixth
Leading possession winner: Dane Swan – 275 disposals
Leading goalkicker: Paul Medhurst – 29 goals
Season so far
Collingwood's start to the season resembled a roller-coaster ride. Six goals to Anthony Rocca and a 26-point win over Fremantle opened their season, and it appeared as though the Pies had lost little of their 2007 finals form. In round two, they were brave to be pipped at the post in the wet at the Gabba, but responded admirably a week later with a 44-point win over Richmond.

A disappointing loss to Carlton in round four started what would be a poor run as they fell to North Melbourne and Hawthorn. But the month was punctuated by a boosting Anzac Day triumph over Essendon.
In the past four rounds, the Pies have been back to their best. A flashy nine-point win over St Kilda in round eight showed the club still had what it took to make the finals, but no one expected the result that would eventuate the following week. The Pies smashed the premiers Geelong by 86 points at the MCG, with Travis Cloke booting four and Dane Swan at his ball-getting best. Since then, a big win over West Coast and a gritty victory over a fired-up Melbourne side have followed.
Best win
It's hard to go past Collingwood's round-nine thumping of premiers Geelong at the MCG. It was a freezing night, the Magpies were coming off a win but were by no means in convincing form after being smashed by Hawthorn the round before, and the Cats had not lost at the MCG since round eight, 2006.

But, the Pies' recent form against Geelong shone through again as the side matched up strongly alongside an almost-full strength line-up. It was Collingwood back at its pressuring best, out-muscling the Cats with 85 to 49 tackles, and recording an 86-point thumping.
B&F leader
After the standard 'year after the knee reconstruction' in 2007, Alan Didak wasn't as prolific as he had been the season before when he claimed his first best and fairest award. This year, the sublimely talented forward has been in tremendous touch, booting 18 goals and averaging nearly 23 disposals a game.

A push further up the ground has seen Didak collect career-high possessions (29 v North Melbourne) in round five, and he was awesome against West Coast with 28 touches and three goals. He's ranked second in club possessions (behind Dane Swan) and third in goals, and has been instrumental in the Pies' recent form.
That said, Swan must be hot on his heels.
Surprise packet
It's been a baptism of fire for young defender Nathan Brown, with the 19-year-old taking on some of the best forwards in the competition following the retirement of James Clement and the long-term injury sustained by Simon Prestigiacomo.
He was given the task on Matthew Pavlich first up, and went on to tackle players such as Jonathan Brown, Matthew Richardson, Matthew Lloyd, Brendan Fevola and Lance Franklin. He was nominated for the NAB Rising Star in round 10, and has shown maturity beyond his years to tackle such prolific names with composure, while earning the confidence of the coaching staff.
Missing in Action – big forwards
Travis Cloke aside, it’s the big forwards who have been missing in action for the Magpies this year.
Rocca has been struggling with an ankle problem and has played just seven games, with Mick Malthouse stating after round 11 the spearhead is not likely to return before the mid-season break.
To compound to this problem, emerging forward Sean Rusling suffered a devastating blow in round one when he popped his troublesome shoulder for the third time. The young gun will miss the rest of the year, with the Pies hoping fellow youngster Ben Reid can make an impact in the second half should Rocca continue to struggle.
Coach's award (one-percenter player)
The much-maligned older Shaw brother, Rhyce, has been enjoying a solid season so far, having been somewhat reinvented as a run-with player in the early stages of the year. At 26 and having overcome injury and form problems, as well as being the subject of trade discussions at the end of last year, Shaw has cemented his place in the senior side this year and is currently ranked fourth in possessions at the club.
He has become a reliable member of the line-up this year after a handful of difficult seasons, and was one of the Pies' best in their win over Geelong with seven tackles.
Second-half story lines
Can the Magpies keep up their promising form and avoid the dreaded mid-year dip that has plagued their seasons since 2004?
When will Rocca return, and how influential will he be if he does?
How big a selection dilemma will Simon Prestigiacomo present when he overcomes his foot problem after the break, with the defensive structure currently working well and Shane Wakelin in form?
The run home:
Round 12 – Carlton at the MCG
Round 13 – Western Bulldogs at Telstra Dome
Round 14 – Sydney at Telstra Stadium
Round 15 – Adelaide at the MCG
Round 16 – North Melbourne at Telstra Dome
Round 17 – Essendon at the MCG
Round 18 – Hawthorn at the MCG
Round 19 – St Kilda at the MCG
Round 20 – Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium
Round 21 – Sydney at Telstra Dome
Round 22 – Fremantle at Subiaco
The views in this article are those of the author and not necessarily of the clubs or the AFL.

frantelle
12 Jun 2008, 17:18
whilst our last month has been very pleasing it will be our next month that will determine where we are at

Optimax
12 Jun 2008, 17:21
whilst our last month has been very pleasing it will be our next month that will determine where we are at
True but we should account for carlton and adelaide, and we have a good record against sydney any where.

The bulldogs will be the sternest test especially at the dome

frantelle
12 Jun 2008, 17:43
True but we should account for carlton and adelaide, and we have a good record against sydney any where.

The bulldogs will be the sternest test especially at the dome

if we come out of this next month with 3 or more wins we are a genuine chance

thatday
12 Jun 2008, 17:54
The run home:
Round 13 – Western Bulldogs at Telstra Dome


Our home game.:rolleyes::mad:

Optimax
12 Jun 2008, 18:02
Our home game.:rolleyes::mad:
makes perfect sense doesnt it

the_fresh
12 Jun 2008, 18:19
B&F leader
After the standard 'year after the knee reconstruction' in 2007, Alan Didak wasn't as prolific as he had been the season before when he claimed his first best and fairest award. This year, the sublimely talented forward has been in tremendous touch, booting 18 goals and averaging nearly 23 disposals a game.

A push further up the ground has seen Didak collect career-high possessions (29 v North Melbourne) in round five, and he was awesome against West Coast with 28 touches and three goals. He's ranked second in club possessions (behind Dane Swan) and third in goals, and has been instrumental in the Pies' recent form.
That said, Swan must be hot on his heels.
Surprise packet
It's been a baptism of fire for young defender Nathan Brown, with the 19-year-old taking on some of the best forwards in the competition following the retirement of James Clement and the long-term injury sustained by Simon Prestigiacomo.
He was given the task on Matthew Pavlich first up, and went on to tackle players such as Jonathan Brown, Matthew Richardson, Matthew Lloyd, Brendan Fevola and Lance Franklin. He was nominated for the NAB Rising Star in round 10, and has shown maturity beyond his years to tackle such prolific names with composure, while earning the confidence of the coaching staff.
Missing in Action – big forwards
Travis Cloke aside, it’s the big forwards who have been missing in action for the Magpies this year.
Rocca has been struggling with an ankle problem and has played just seven games, with Mick Malthouse stating after round 11 the spearhead is not likely to return before the mid-season break.
To compound to this problem, emerging forward Sean Rusling suffered a devastating blow in round one when he popped his troublesome shoulder for the third time. The young gun will miss the rest of the year, with the Pies hoping fellow youngster Ben Reid can make an impact in the second half should Rocca continue to struggle.
Coach's award (one-percenter player)
The much-maligned older Shaw brother, Rhyce, has been enjoying a solid season so far, having been somewhat reinvented as a run-with player in the early stages of the year. At 26 and having overcome injury and form problems, as well as being the subject of trade discussions at the end of last year, Shaw has cemented his place in the senior side this year and is currently ranked fourth in possessions at the club.
He has become a reliable member of the line-up this year after a handful of difficult seasons, and was one of the Pies' best in their win over Geelong with seven tackles.



I think Dane Swan would be leading the B&F followed by H. Shaw & Didak with R. Shaw in the top 5.
Swan has been our best in 3 out of the last 4.

Nathan Brown played all of 5 minutes on Fev, he kicked 2 goals and was moved.
Apart from that has been great.

Rocca is always missing, Trav has had to do a hell of a lot of work and just because his goals are down doesn't mean he's "missing in action" I've given him a rating of 7 out of 10. Still taking marks, playing away from goal yet gives a contest at the hot spot.



Now for R. Shaw.
Apart from one bad mistake that costs us the North game (don't even tell me that bounce cost us the game, Shaw made a dumb mistake by handballing back into a group of players that resulted in a goal.
I think his run has been the big thing. being able to break the lines through ball carry and kick to a leading target. The best sample is on Monday, broke the lines, long kick goal in the first half after it looked like we were in trouble.
I also rate his kick to his brother to get our 2nd goal on Monday our "play of the year" H. Shaws hard running, Leons smarts not to kick without the need and R. Shaws vision to see his brother running down the wing. The finish wasn't bad as well.

PieLebo87
12 Jun 2008, 20:55
Mid-season report: Collingwood

By PieLebo87

Win-loss: 7-4 WLWLLWLWWWW
Ladder position: Sixth
Leading possession winner: Dane Swan – 275 disposals
Leading goalkicker: Paul Medhurst – 29 goals
MCG since round eight, 2006.

B&F leader
Alan Didak would definitely be leading the Copeland at the moment because of his superb form as an attacking midfielder/HFF and has been integral to the form of the Magpies in the last month.

Dane Swan would not be far behind having averaged the most possessions per game for the Pies in the opening half of the year. When Swan is firing, the Magpies fire and I believe he is more of a barometer in the midfield then Didak is.

Paul Medhurst, Harry O'Brien and Leon Davis are looking at top 10 finishes in the Copeland.

Surprise packet
Nathan Brown has definitely suprised a few people, mainly because of his form, or lack of, in the VFL last season but his job in the backline, and side in general, has been remarkable so far this year.

Another suprise packet is Paul Medhurst, whos form has been beyond those anyone expected from a 'forward pocket'. He has become one of our most important forwards.

Missing in Action
It has definitely been the big forwards which is a shame, as we prided ourselves on having the most effective forward line in the AFL. Sadly, injuries have ravaged the seasons of Rusling and Rocca but the big disappointment has been Travis Cloke's form. Just last season he was in the same league as Franklin, but that has changed dramatically. Hopefully he can work himself into some decent form and be more then serviceable come finals time. Needs to live upto that potential as the best traditional CHF in the league for us to win the premiership.

Coach's award (one-percenter player)
Rhyce Shaw has shut up the critics and its great to see him recapture that form he had from '05 before the knee reco. This is Rhyce Shaw, not what we saw last year or '03. So hopefully he can maintain that form and become a great wingman for the Magpies in this era. Still has a good 4-5 years of his prime.

Second-half story lines
Can the Magpies keep up their promising form and avoid the dreaded mid-year dip that has plagued their seasons since 2004?
Yes, because the way the injuries have taken their toll on the Magpies has, twistedly, worked in our favour with particular players given a chance to get into form during the 2nd half of the season. Eg. Rocca, Presti ect. Plus, the youngsters are one year wiser and appear to have taken that step up to claim responsibility.
When will Rocca return, and how influential will he be if he does?
Rocca will be back for Sydney or Adelaide and should hit his straps come Round 21-22 and create some trauma in the finals for the opposition.
How big a selection dilemma will Simon Prestigiacomo present when he overcomes his foot problem after the break, with the defensive structure currently working well and Shane Wakelin in form?
Definitely a headache we want to have in our young backline.

The run home:
Round 12 – Carlton at the MCG W
Round 13 – Western Bulldogs at Telstra Dome L
Round 14 – Sydney at Telstra Stadium W
Round 15 – Adelaide at the MCG W
Round 16 – North Melbourne at Telstra Dome L
Round 17 – Essendon at the MCG W
Round 18 – Hawthorn at the MCG L
Round 19 – St Kilda at the MCG W
Round 20 – Port Adelaide at AAMI Stadium W
Round 21 – Sydney at Telstra Dome W
Round 22 – Fremantle at Subiaco W

pendles
12 Jun 2008, 21:07
True but we should account for carlton and adelaide, and we have a good record against sydney any where.

The bulldogs will be the sternest test especially at the dome

Any where every day every where what so ever any way!!!

Optimax
12 Jun 2008, 21:17
Any where every day every where what so ever any way!!!
WTF?

Ive made you look like a fool twice in the past fortnight.

just give up

thatday
12 Jun 2008, 21:20
Clap Clap.

pendles
12 Jun 2008, 21:37
WTF?

Ive made you look like a fool twice in the past fortnight.

just give up

Ive begged to differ.

Optimax
12 Jun 2008, 21:48
Ive begged to differ.
Mick liked nick davis? hardly
Davies better than clarke
Davies premeir mid better than swan
Bruce reid cricketer is ben reids dad (massiev lol)

Want me to continue? You are just acting like a petulant child now give it up already.

pendles
12 Jun 2008, 22:06
Mick liked nick davis? hardly
Davies better than clarke
Davies premeir mid better than swan
Bruce reid cricketer is ben reids dad (massiev lol)

Want me to continue? You are just acting like a petulant child now give it up already.

You said Mick liked Davis Opti:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11265187#post11265187

Oops!!!

You were saying?

Optimax
12 Jun 2008, 22:09
You said Mick liked Davis Opti:

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11265187#post11265187 (http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?p=11265187#post11265187)

Oops!!!

You were saying?
there your posts, micked did like davis that is what im saying you actually said this:
You don't know how it went down Opti.

On your reasoning, Mick liked Nick Davis? Hardly.
Mick did like davis

just like bruce reid the crickleter isnt related to our reid.

Oh NOES pendles ____s up again, now please just stop trying to goad me into an arguement, i have enough ammo on you to last me a decade

pendles
12 Jun 2008, 22:24
there your posts, micked did like davis that is what im saying you actually said this:

Mick did like davis

just like bruce reid the crickleter isnt related to our reid.

Oh NOES pendles ____s up again, now please just stop trying to goad me into an arguement, i have enough ammo on you to last me a decade

You said I said Mick liked Davis. But you said Mick liked Davis Opti.

Oh NOES!!!

Optimax
13 Jun 2008, 09:54
You said I said Mick liked Davis. But you said Mick liked Davis Opti.

Oh NOES!!!
"Never get into a battle of wits with someone who is quite clearly un armed".

Alright pendles have fun

Dynamics
13 Jun 2008, 12:07
Don't make me post the "arguing on the internet" picture, guys! :D

PieLebo87
13 Jun 2008, 13:09
You two bitches need to get a room :p

pendles
14 Jun 2008, 17:54
"Never get into a battle of wits with someone who is quite clearly un armed".

Alright pendles have fun

Un armed? What ever.