Melbourne Team V Richmond

[pezz]

Richmond
B: Chris Newman, Luke McGuane, Graham Polak
HB: Jordan McMahon, Kelvin Moore, Daniel Jackson
C: Matthew Richardson, Shane Tuck, Matt White
HF: Mitch Morton, Jack Riewoldt, Richard Tambling
F: Adam Pattison, Nathan Brown, Trent Cotchin
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Brett Deledio, Nathan Foley
I/C (from): Dean Polo, Jarrad Oakley-Nicholls, Chris Hyde, Joel Bowden, Alex Rance, Jay Schulz,Shane Edwards

In: Riewoldt, Rance, Oakley-Nicholls, Hyde, Jackson, Polo, Morton
Out: Will Thursfield (hamstring), Jake King (hamstring), Greg Tivendale, Kayne Pettifer

New: Alex Rance (Swan Districts)

Melbourne
B: James McDonald, Colin Garland, Matthew Warnock
HB: Brad Green, Paul Wheatley, Cameron Bruce
C: Colin Sylvia, Brock McLean, Lynden Dunn
HF: Jace Bode, James Frawley, Clint Bartram
F: Paul Johnson, Brad Miller, Austin Wonaeamirri
Foll: Jeff White, Chris Johnson, Nathan Jones
I/C (from): Aaron Davey, Mark Jamar, Matthew Bate, Cale Morton, Matthew Whelan, Adem Yze, Nathan Carroll

In: Davey, Frawley, Jamar, C Johnson, Carroll, Whelan
Out: Jared Rivers (groin), Brent Moloney (shoulder), Daniel Bell

[davey_magik]

We can win on Sunday (Their backline looks really weak IMO) but we need to stop Richo and Brown. Whelan is the perfect man for Brown and I'd put Warnock on Richo.

[Dez!]

Garland to Cotchin? Only if he lines up in the pocket.

Surely we can put Green in the forward line for this game with that Tigers forward line.

[davey_magik]

Oh and if Frawley plays forward I will hurt people.

My emergencies would be Carroll, Jamar and Frawley.

[devil demon]

Chris Johnson finally looks set to play

[Supermercado]

Jace Bode keeps his spot? I would have thought everyone would have done their block over that already - he's not even on the extended bench!

Surely Davey, Bate, Whelan, Yze are the final four to make the cut with apologies to Morton.

[Bartram_Class]

Oh and if Frawley plays forward I will hurt people.

My emergencies would be Carroll, Jamar and Frawley.
Frawley has been named at CHF, he's playing alright.

Davey must obviously not be ready, being named on a bench, so you can cross him out. Chopper and Jamar have no chance of being included.

EMG: Davey, Carroll, Jamar.

By gee, that forward line is menacing. Bode, Bartram, PJ, Miller, Frawley and Wonna. Easily 20 goals between that lot. :rolleyes:

[Bartram_Class]

Jace Bode keeps his spot? I would have thought everyone would have done their block over that already - he's not even on the extended bench!

Surely Davey, Bate, Whelan, Yze are the final four to make the cut with apologies to Morton.
Morton couldn't hit a barn door last week, looked out of his depth, a week in the twos will do him alright.

Bode will have to show something soon, though we were saying this about Garland a few weeks ago and look at him now.

[CowboyFromHell]

That has to be the worst forward line ever named (Melbourne's that is...)! It won't happen like that on Sunday, but if it did it would be good for about 2 goals.

If fit then Davey will be a definite starter with C. Johnson and Frawley. I'd say Whelan will get a gig as well, meaning Morton is the unlucky one to miss out. Hopefully Bell STAYS dropped this week!

[The Dr]

Everyone's talking us up but i am very, very concerned we won't turn up to play (Anyone remember the effort v St.Kilda?)

[McLean_4_Captain]

That has to be the worst forward line ever named (Melbourne's that is...)! It won't happen like that on Sunday, but if it did it would be good for about 2 goals.

That half forward line has kicked a total of 1 goal this season and 10 goals for their career. The whole forward line outside of Wona has 9 goals this season.

I'm kinda curious to see what frawley would be like up forward. I know everyone expects him to be rubbish, but if we have richmonds tall forwards covered then why not give him a go for a quarter. If he's crap he won't have let anyone down.

When rivers is fit we are kind of struggling for a spot for frawley with 3 talls already down back, so with a lack of current forward options why not try something out of left field for a quarter or at the end of the game if we're losing. I'm not saying the whole game (unless it works), but maybe he'll provide a decent CHF option and Miller can be given a decent run at FF as he's put his hand up to do.

Stranger things have happened, i mean Bode is getting a game

[CowboyFromHell]

Everyone's talking us up but i am very, very concerned we won't turn up to play (Anyone remember the effort v St.Kilda?)

Agree 100%. This is exactly the type of game that we don't turn up for and we look TERRIBLE! I'm hoping the boys respond to the criticism slung our way during the week but I have this sinking feeling that the Tigers will walk all over us...

[CaptainDavey]

I think we've definitely got a good chance this week, but that listed half forward line makes me projectile vomit. Quite humorous

[Bell2004]

I just thought about this

when its the MCG we seem to play very good footy but when its interstate or telstra dome we just play horrible with no confidence.

[Bartram_Class]

I just thought about this

when its the MCG we seem to play very good footy but when its interstate or telstra dome we just play horrible with no confidence.
Our record at the 'G this year is still 1-5.

Not exactly great either.

[master bate]

This is how I'd line up, I think the emergencies are pretty straight forward (Morton's game on the weekend suggested a week back in the 2's - as did Bell's). I don't like Bode or CJ, but I think both deserve a run and the quicker we find out if these two fringe types are good enough the better.
Melbourne
B: Bode, Warnock, Garland
HB: Whelan, Frawley, Bartram
C: Green, McLean,Wheatley
HF: Wonaeamirri, Miller, Bate
F: Davey, Sylvia, Yze
Foll: White, Dunn, McDonald
I/C (from): PJ, CJ, Jones, Bruce
Emer: Morton (1st Emer in Davey isn't right), Carroll, Jamar


In: Davey, Frawley, Jamar, C Johnson, Carroll, Whelan
Out: Jared Rivers (groin), Brent Moloney (shoulder), Daniel Bell

I wouldn't be surprised if Jamar gets a go in the team with PJ in the forward line. Whilst it takes away run it gives us a target up forward and big Jamar could really throw his body around against Simmons and Pattison, could be good to watch. On the smaller ground his lack of mobility is probably less of a worry as well.

Also I think there is a chance that Whelan wont play with Bartram and Bode in the side, McDonald might go in the backline again (he does give good leadership down there) and he could be covered by the number of midfielders down there.

[CowboyFromHell]

I like that line-up MB. Looks strong, well Melbourne strong anyway.

I hope Jamar doesn't get a look in as I thought PJ and White rotated well with each other last week. Don't mind them resting up forward but keeping them there for extended periods of time never works.

Agree that Morton is the 1st emergency if Davey doesn't get up, Bell needs to stay dropped this week.

[Bartram_Class]

Whelan has been named in the Sandy 18, so I think that suggest he won't be playing.

I favour Morton to get that spot, not the Russian though. Jamar has also been named at FF in the Magoos. No Juice to speak of.

[melbournemartin]

playing PJ, Jamar and White together has never worked and I doubt it ever will. PJ was great in the ruck with 18 hit outs. Keep the combination going.

[master bate]

We should have too much strength in the middle with Bruce, Green, Wheatley, CJ on the wings it is a lot stronger than White, Edwards, Polo, Tambling etc - but that doesn't mean we will win this area. We need to get enough pressure to not let Tambling, Deledio etc run passed us, the Hawthorn game was the perfect example of this. I'd be sending Dunn to Foley to stop them getting their hands on it, then after that trying to really get on top of clearances.

[saj_21]

[quote=master bate;11352935]This is how I'd line up, I think the emergencies are pretty straight forward (Morton's game on the weekend suggested a week back in the 2's - as did Bell's). I don't like Bode or CJ, but I think both deserve a run and the quicker we find out if these two fringe types are good enough the better.
Melbourne
B: Bode, Warnock, Garland
HB: Whelan, Frawley, Bartram
C: Green, McLean,Wheatley
HF: Wonaeamirri, Miller, Bate
F: Davey, Sylvia, Yze
Foll: White, Dunn, McDonald
I/C: PJ, CJ, Jones, Bruce
Emer: Morton (1st Emer in Davey isn't right), Carroll, Jamar


In: Davey, Frawley, Jamar, C Johnson, Carroll, Whelan
Out: Jared Rivers (groin), Brent Moloney (shoulder), Daniel Bell quote]

I think you right with the line up people have to realise that the players are not named in positions anymore the afl clubs may as well relase a list of players 1-25. Whilst the team will look similar to the one named it will be different. Morton unlucky to miss out, but why o why Chris Johnson again!!!

[CowboyFromHell]

[quote=master bate;11352935]This is how I'd line up, I think the emergencies are pretty straight forward (Morton's game on the weekend suggested a week back in the 2's - as did Bell's). I don't like Bode or CJ, but I think both deserve a run and the quicker we find out if these two fringe types are good enough the better.
Melbourne
B: Bode, Warnock, Garland
HB: Whelan, Frawley, Bartram
C: Green, McLean,Wheatley
HF: Wonaeamirri, Miller, Bate
F: Davey, Sylvia, Yze
Foll: White, Dunn, McDonald
I/C: PJ, CJ, Jones, Bruce
Emer: Morton (1st Emer in Davey isn't right), Carroll, Jamar


In: Davey, Frawley, Jamar, C Johnson, Carroll, Whelan
Out: Jared Rivers (groin), Brent Moloney (shoulder), Daniel Bell quote]

I think you right with the line up people have to realise that the players are not named in positions anymore the afl clubs may as well relase a list of players 1-25. Whilst the team will look similar to the one named it will be different. Morton unlucky to miss out, but why o why Chris Johnson again!!!

CJ gets another run because his form in the VFL was too good to ignore. Bailey has said that consistently good form will be rewarded and he is sticking to it, which is great to see!

[JuveRule]

I think we've definitely got a good chance this week, but that listed half forward line makes me projectile vomit. Quite humorous

Exactly, I know that the initial team listing means stuff all but really they could at least give it some sense of reality.

[CaptainDavey]

Doesn't the official team come out now for Sundays games?

[Supermercado]

Final

B: J.McDonald, C.Garland, M.Warnock
HB: B.Green, P.Wheatley, C.Bruce
C: C.Sylvia, B.McLean, L.Dunn
HF: J. Bode, J. Frawley, C. Bartram
F: P.Johnson, B.Miller, A.Wonaeamirri
Foll: J. White, C. Johnson, N.Jones
Interchange from: A Davey, M. Bate, C. Morton, A. Yze
Emergencies: N. Carroll, M.Whelan, M. Jamar

In: A.Davey, J.Frawley, C.Johnson
Out: Jared RIVERS (Inj – groin), Brent MOLONEY (Inj -shoulder), Daniel BELL (omitted)

Whelan would be necking himself not to get a game in this side.

[CaptainDavey]

Cheers Super.

Lol @ half forward again. Who are we chucking on Brown?

[Headless]

OHZ NOEZ, Bode, Frawley and Bartram in our forwardline? :o

I'd laugh if that actually happened.. It'd be different, anyway. :p

[Bartram_Class]

Whelan would be necking himself not to get a game in this side.
True, but Bailey would have learnt the lesson from Rivers last week not to bring in injury-prone players without a couple of games under their belts.

[CowboyFromHell]

Cheers Super.

Lol @ half forward again. Who are we chucking on Brown?

Garland. :thumbsu:

Someone like Dunn to run with Richo when he is in the middle, and then Warnock to take him when he goes forward. Frawley to take Riewoldt.

[Keithy George]

I'd have included Whelan if he were fit, and yes THAT forwardline is diabolical.

What does the coaching staff expect from Jace Bode. I don't mean to dig the boots into the guy, but what is his value to the team? Its clear to almost all and sundry that he is not AFL standard.

[master bate]

I'd have included Whelan if he were fit, and yes THAT forwardline is diabolical.

What does the coaching staff expect from Jace Bode. I don't mean to dig the boots into the guy, but what is his value to the team? Its clear to almost all and sundry that he is not AFL standard.
I'm willing to give him another go, in the war of bigfooty posters against the coaching staff they are probably up 3-1.

Wonaeamirri - most of us wanted Valenti promoted ahead of him
Warnock - most of us wrote him off
Garland - most of us said not this year
Weetra - we were probably right to say he didn't deserve his two games!

[Accepted 04]

I was just wondering if we lined up with a forward lind of:
HF:Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F:Brown Schulz Polak

What matchups you would go with?

[CowboyFromHell]

I was just wondering if we lined up with a forward lind of:
HF:Morton Riewoldt Cotchin
F:Brown Schulz Polak

What matchups you would go with?

It would probably be something like:

Warnock on Polak
Frawley on Shulz
Wheatley on Riewoldt
Garland on Brown
McDonald on Morton
Bode on Cotchin

Or something like that. One thing we don't have alot of in this week is small backmen. Whelan and Petterd are still coming back from injury while Bell is waaaay out of form. I'd like to see Garland go with Brown as he has the leg speed to keep up and obviously the height to beat him in the air.

[Accepted 04]

Thanks

[McLean_4_Captain]

Garland. :thumbsu:

Someone like Dunn to run with Richo when he is in the middle, and then Warnock to take him when he goes forward. Frawley to take Riewoldt.

That should be a really interesting match-up, i really hope that happens.

Frawley was taken at pick 12 in the 2006 draft and Riewoldt was taken the next pick at 13, so we rated Frawley higher then him and we could've had riewoldt if we had wanted too. Both played a handful of games last year and have played 15 games in total, and are just starting to settle into roles in their second season.

It's not career defining or anything, but if frawley beats riewoldt it will some what justify us taking him the pick before.

[demonfire]

apparently whelan didn't play for sandy today.
he might come in for frawley or davey if they arent over their injuries.

i think the coaching staff see bode as a smart footballer, just not at the speed of the game quite yet, and are hoping he picks up the pace soon.

[CaptainDavey]

I'm willing to give him another go, in the war of bigfooty posters against the coaching staff they are probably up 3-1.

Wonaeamirri - most of us wanted Valenti promoted ahead of him
Warnock - most of us wrote him off
Garland - most of us said not this year
Weetra - we were probably right to say he didn't deserve his two games!

I'll happily admit that I was wrong about Garland, he definitely has made me eat some serious humble pie. I have forever been in love with Warnock though:o

[melbournemartin]

Cotchin would murder Bode and surely not McDonald on Morton? I'd rather use him in the midfield.

[CowboyFromHell]

Cotchin would murder Bode and surely not McDonald on Morton? I'd rather use him in the midfield.

Well give me another alternative. Don't rubbish my suggestions without having something better. Possibly Bartram would take one of them but we are light on for small backs.

[McLean_4_Captain]

Well give me another alternative. Don't rubbish my suggestions without having something better. Possibly Bartram would take one of them but we are light on for small backs.

I think McDonald will have to take one and think you're probably right with Morton, but i hope Bode doesn't take Cotchin early.

He should be less dangerous late, so he's a priority to stop while he's in the midfield. Cotchin is still lacking a bit of fittness, he'll play midfield for first half then go forward if he's running out of legs later in the game. Look at his game last week, 18 touches in the first half then about 10 in the 2nd.

Bartram to start on him in the guts and then maybe Bode if he goes forward in the 2nd half.

[peterss]

Johnson on the ball is an interesting one!

How you reckon he will go?

[unstable punt]

Everyone's talking us up but i am very, very concerned we won't turn up to play (Anyone remember the effort v St.Kilda?)

tried to forget but seeing it was only TWO WEEKS AGO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:eek:

[unstable punt]

Garland. :thumbsu:

Someone like Dunn to run with Richo when he is in the middle, and then Warnock to take him when he goes forward. Frawley to take Riewoldt.

Garland will go forward before Frawley

[Peter SasseGum]

Should be a good game with some quality matchups, but I think the Tigers will be too strong.

Can't see Bailey matching up tactically against Wallace

[CowboyFromHell]

Should be a good game with some quality matchups, but I think the Tigers will be too strong.

Can't see Bailey matching up tactically against Wallace

Wallet wouldn't know tactics if they bit him on the arse.

[CaptainDavey]

Should be a good game with some quality matchups, but I think the Tigers will be too strong.

Can't see Bailey matching up tactically against Wallace

You may well be right but other than moving Richo to the wing, playing Brown in the midfield or doing chip chip chip, what moves has Terry got up his sleeve that we here at BigFooty wouldn't know about, let alone Dean Bailey?

[McLean_4_Captain]

Should be a good game with some quality matchups, but I think the Tigers will be too strong.

Can't see Bailey matching up tactically against Wallace

Are these the tactics that have held you in such good stead for the last 3 & 1/2 years?

You are probably right with richmond being too strong and they probably will win, but to say that a wallace is a better tactician then 11-game coach bailey is foolish

[melbournemartin]

Who will tag Richo? Garland maybe?

[StingaArmstrong]

Who will tag Richo? Garland maybe?

I'd go with Dunn, has got the height and aerobic capacity to run with him all day.

Just on a side note regarding Dunn in the forward line...he played there against Collingwood last week and I didn't see him make one lead. So i'm assuming and hoping he was there as a forward tag on Heath Shaw.

[JuveRule]

Just on a side note regarding Dunn in the forward line...he played there against Collingwood last week and I didn't see him make one lead. So i'm assuming and hoping he was there as a forward tag on Heath Shaw.

Made a few leads, but there really wasn't much conviction there, couldn't break away from his opponent and as such didn't get the ball kicked to him. Not surprising when he's being running around behind Dane Swan all day.