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Uncle Steve

3 Apr 2001, 08:56

Down at the Bay on Saturday I noticed a new protocol in place for 1- and 3- quarter time. The crowd can no longer enter the centre square, meaning that it cannot stand around the players' huddle. This is a real shame - part of the appeal of SANFL is being able to get up close to the action, and joining in the players' huddles was a big part of this. Was this phenomenon happening at the other grounds too, or was it limited to Glenelg oval?

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Go South

3 Apr 2001, 09:04

Originally posted by Uncle Steve:

Down at the Bay on Saturday I noticed a new protocol in place for 1- and 3- quarter time. The crowd can no longer enter the centre square, meaning that it cannot stand around the players' huddle. This is a real shame - part of the appeal of SANFL is being able to get up close to the action, and joining in the players' huddles was a big part of this. Was this phenomenon happening at the other grounds too, or was it limited to Glenelg oval?

Nope... happened at Woodville too - was really disappointing - going in for the huddle at 1/4 and 3/4 time is part of SANFL's appeal for me. We just had to stand on the outside of the square and try and listen to the coach from there, but it wasn't much good.

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Blues_Brat

3 Apr 2001, 19:37

correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a rabid Glenelg supporter that cost people the right to run on to the oval at the end of the game?

CDFCLad

3 Apr 2001, 21:11

Originally posted by Blues_Brat:
correct me if I'm wrong, but wasn't it a rabid Glenelg supporter that cost people the right to run on to the oval at the end of the game?

Actually I think it may have been the infamous North v Norwood Friday night match a few seasons back that caused the fans not to be allowed on to the match at the siren.

I think that the huddle problem was caused by a fight between the Eagles and Centrals last year when a Central fans child was knocked over by Eagles player John McCarthy after a scuffle at 3/4 time and he didn't take kindly to it, and fans became involved.

Macca19

3 Apr 2001, 21:36

Originally posted by Go South:
Nope... happened at Woodville too - was really disappointing - going in for the huddle at 1/4 and 3/4 time is part of SANFL's appeal for me. We just had to stand on the outside of the square and try and listen to the coach from there, but it wasn't much good.

What square is this?? Since when did the huddles go inthe centre square?? I dont understand...at alberton the are always members wing sorta side, nowhere near the centre square?
Or have tehy changed it all have they?

Blues_Brat

4 Apr 2001, 04:31

Thanks CDFCLad, I stand corrected. I do remember it was at Norwood Oval, but thought it was one of the neutral games that have been played there.

Go South

4 Apr 2001, 05:20

Originally posted by Macca19:
What square is this?? Since when did the huddles go inthe centre square?? I dont understand...at alberton the are always members wing sorta side, nowhere near the centre square?
Or have tehy changed it all have they?

Was at Woodville Oval, but by the sounds of it, they've changed it all. Both huddles were in the centre square, and they had people there making sure noone got in.

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eddie eagle

4 Apr 2001, 09:06

I think that the huddle problem was caused by a fight between the Eagles and Centrals last year when a Central fans child was knocked over by Eagles player John McCarthy after a scuffle at 3/4 time and he didn't take kindly to it, and fans became involved. [/B][/QUOTE]

Yes this was the incident that we can thank for the change. I was at elizabeth that day watching the eagles win in the pouring rain, being on the ground though and seeing the incident I could probably describe it more accurately -

There was a high tackle - can't remember who, right on the 3/4 time siren on the members wing near where the centrals huddle was going to be located at the northern end. Followed by a small push & shove melee involving about 10 - 20 players. As the eagles players were moving to their huddle
A few centrals supporters were hurling abuse at the eagles players in general at least one supporter threw punches at John McCarthy and was forcibly ejected from the ground.

As for the red herring of a league footballer running through a child to knock him down well this I guess is the excuse offered when their are no norwood supporters to blame. ala Norwood oval incidents.

Star force officers, security guards & plain clothes police now also attend selected SANFL clubs matches which is a good thing but it is a great pity to have the huddles now inaccessable due to one clubs supporters.

Blues_Girl

4 Apr 2001, 09:25

Ever since the start of last season I think, people have been able to walk across the centre square. It just so happened that this weekend the huddles were in the centre square.

Macca19

4 Apr 2001, 15:09

How ****ing typical of centrals fans to *** it up for the rest of us. Typical!

DoggiesGimp

4 Apr 2001, 19:58

Originally posted by Macca19:
How ****ing typical of centrals fans to *** it up for the rest of us. Typical!

And I guess there was an undercover mob of Centrals fans who started the fight between North and Norwood? and Norwood and the Eagles last year?

'BTW As for the red herring of a league footballer running through a child to knock him down well this I guess is the excuse offered when their are no norwood supporters to blame. ala Norwood oval incidents.'

I was right in front of the fight as well. Who said it was a deliberate act? MaCarthy obviously didn't mean to do it, and as a loyal Fitzroy fan till the day we merged I respect the guy totally. However I know the guy who was in the fight, went to school with him and in fact he was the school captain (ie. not a yobbo as you'd probably like to think) and even he admitted he started to hit MaCarthy after his kid was knocked over. He knows it was out of order, but he was simply p*ssed off. Full stop.

Another well reasoned and objective piece regarding Centrals.

Macca19

5 Apr 2001, 08:38

Originally posted by DoggiesGimp:
And I guess there was an undercover mob of Centrals fans who started the fight between North and Norwood? and Norwood and the Eagles last year?

'BTW As for the red herring of a league footballer running through a child to knock him down well this I guess is the excuse offered when their are no norwood supporters to blame. ala Norwood oval incidents.'

I was right in front of the fight as well. Who said it was a deliberate act? MaCarthy obviously didn't mean to do it, and as a loyal Fitzroy fan till the day we merged I respect the guy totally. However I know the guy who was in the fight, went to school with him and in fact he was the school captain (ie. not a yobbo as you'd probably like to think) and even he admitted he started to hit MaCarthy after his kid was knocked over. He knows it was out of order, but he was simply p*ssed off. Full stop.

Another well reasoned and objective piece regarding Centrals.

Or the fight between Centrals and Norwood at Parade last year when a ****wit Centrals supporter in the "grog squad" (great name for your cheersquad by the way) threw a full can of beer at a female (who happened to be the merchandiser at my work) who was just standing there minding her own business. I suppose there is a logical explanation for this as well.

Blues_Brat

5 Apr 2001, 08:49

eddie eagle

5 Apr 2001, 09:53

[QUOTE]Originally posted by DoggiesGimp:
[B] And I guess there was an undercover mob of Centrals fans who started the fight between ............. Norwood and the Eagles last year?

Why was it that I was at the norwood eagles game on coopers hill during that freezing cold night with over 6000 others watching the eagles win, enjoying banter with legs supporters with not a hint of agro, yet centrals supporters claim there were fights - well no way - perhaps you heard the centrals supporter call kg & cornsey claiming of a supposed fight - not sure what he would have been doing at the game??.

Also no mention of this was made in the advertiser - unlike their extremely objective of reporting central fans behaviour.

Oh and as for fine upstanding citizen & school captain mate - perhaps Kris Grant should appoint him to the board that way the security guards may not rough him up as much when ejecting him from your home games.

DoggiesGimp

6 Apr 2001, 06:39

Originally posted by Macca19:

Or the fight between Centrals and Norwood at Parade last year when a ****wit Centrals supporter in the "grog squad" (great name for your cheersquad by the way) threw a full can of beer at a female (who happened to be the merchandiser at my work) who was just standing there minding her own business. I suppose there is a logical explanation for this as well.

No, and I can only apologise for this. An explanation for the can of coke was thrown at a Centrals fan and hit his g/f as well? As well in the 96 Qualifying Final I saw a Norwood fan absolutely pummel a member of the Port Cheer Squad, I guess he was a Centrals fan undercover as well? Stop placing all of the SANFL's dirty washing on one club.

BTW Centrals don't have a group called the grog squad. Thats North. You saw one guys t-shirt with the words 'CDFC Grog Squad' and made that assumption didn't you?

BTW how many times must people be told...The guys behind the goals are not the trouble makers. The stereotypical Centrals End-to-Enders are not the violent ones. I agree some Centrals fans are pr*cks, but it's not the ones you think. If you want to continue accusing those guys then you have no idea. Just ask any Port Supporter who drinks in the Alberton Hotel after Centrals matches who the trouble makers are....End to Enders, or someone other group?

DoggiesGimp

6 Apr 2001, 06:50

'yet centrals supporters claim there were fights '

Because believe it or not, some of us do not live in the Northern Suburbs and have friends (yes, we do) who support the likes of Norwood and Sturt. Easily could have been told by others. Personally my sources were all from Doggies fans and if nothing happened, nothing happened but obviously you know all about the SANFL. Nice evasion of North and Norwood BTW.

And no, the guy I went to school with is an outstanding citizen. Tertiary educated, top job, lovely family.....you make a hell of a presumption just because of someones football allegiance don't you? He's not even from the area, nor am I. We follow Centrals because of our English backgrounds. Thats it.

Ever wonder why the police never followed it up? A Centrals fan starts hitting a SANFL player for no reason other than a high tackle at 3/4 time, and the police let it go. Cobblers. Especialy as this happened only weeks after the Norwood incident.
You seem to have a gigantic chip on your shoulder don't you? Possibly something to do with being stuffed in a certain match last year?

DoggiesGimp

6 Apr 2001, 06:57

'unlike their extremely objective of reporting central fans behaviour.'

Crap....that Norwood reporting was done to link the ongoing Euro 2000 hooligan riots which were happening at the time with something more local. So blatant it was laughable. The flare incident (something which has happened at Norwood since the early 90's BTW) and the fight were two totally unrelated occurences, done by two different groups of fans, would you have known reading the reports?

Macca19

6 Apr 2001, 08:48

Originally posted by DoggiesGimp:
No, and I can only apologise for this. An explanation for the can of coke was thrown at a Centrals fan and hit his g/f as well? As well in the 96 Qualifying Final I saw a Norwood fan absolutely pummel a member of the Port Cheer Squad, I guess he was a Centrals fan undercover as well? Stop placing all of the SANFL's dirty washing on one club.

BTW Centrals don't have a group called the grog squad. Thats North. You saw one guys t-shirt with the words 'CDFC Grog Squad' and made that assumption didn't you?

BTW how many times must people be told...The guys behind the goals are not the trouble makers. The stereotypical Centrals End-to-Enders are not the violent ones. I agree some Centrals fans are pr*cks, but it's not the ones you think. If you want to continue accusing those guys then you have no idea. Just ask any Port Supporter who drinks in the Alberton Hotel after Centrals matches who the trouble makers are....End to Enders, or someone other group?

i dont CARE if its the end-to-enders or any other group. Port Centrals at alberton last year. A 60-70 year old man (port supporter) got wrestled to the ground and booted in the head by a 6'3 large muscly younger centrals thug. This other younger pshycopath around us had a go at about 8 different people including myself (by having a go i mean walking towards and then threatening violence) and he actually hit someone at three quarter time walking on the ground.
You supporters, i do not care if its only a little bit of them, those supporters have given the reasonable ones a bad name, and that is your damn bad luck.

DoggiesGimp

6 Apr 2001, 12:44

again I can only apologise for that. But I will not just listen to everyone accuse Centrals fans with no thought behind their statements. We're not a blank canvas for you all to accuse of every incident in the league, as you did when you accused us of ruining everything for the rest of the league. Who stopped kids being able to go onto the ground after matches.....North and Norwood supporters, thats who. Where's their serve?

Who threw a rock at a player? And after the hit their own by mistake they accused the other teams fans? Possibly, Ports. The 98 G/F which saw Sturt and Port fans fighting...The Port fans who caused a commotion at the 96 Centrals G/F wake.......

Keep it football...........