View Full Version : McNamara - coming of age
Stereophonic
13 Jun 2008, 22:41
Its taken him a few games, and a Kerr injury but I am starting to see what all the fuss is about. Quick, clean hands and smart, looks like a quality mid with potential 200 gamer written all over him.
To 3/4 time:
15 possessions, 5 marks, 3 tackles,
Should get in the BF team votes youd reckon:thumbsu:
pretty disapointing night all round though.
oh well...btw from what i've heard, nico has been ok. (11 kicks 11 effective)
another positive
wce0632
13 Jun 2008, 23:20
that's good to hear. I've been hitting up the 'Game Day Live' and listening to the radio online, he seems to have done okay.
Not really too enthusiastic at the moment but I'll watch the game anyway and see how the young ones went. Pretty damn disappointed but if they've shown good signs then it's a little relief but I'm sick of just saying "We've shown good signs".
bunsen burner
13 Jun 2008, 23:23
Pretty handy game. That's the best I've seen him play.
Stereophonic
13 Jun 2008, 23:27
Dropped off in the second half, though you could say that about a lot of us.....when is Masten going to put together 4 quaters?
wce0632
13 Jun 2008, 23:29
Dropped off in the second half, though you could say that about a lot of us.....when is Masten going to put together 4 quaters?
When is WEST COAST going to put together four quarters? :mad:
bunsen burner
13 Jun 2008, 23:31
When is WEST COAST going to put together four quarters? :mad:Not until 09 hopefully.
is it me or does losing not really hurt that much anymore?
i mean, im pissed off...but really, i used to hate it so much more in previous years.
wce0632
13 Jun 2008, 23:38
is it me or does losing not really hurt that much anymore?
i mean, im pissed off...but really, i used to hate it so much more in previous years.
yeah it doesn't hurt (except last week), I'm just p1ssed off!!!! Tad over the whole losing thing and no 4 quarter efforts.
Tossed a coin and picked WCE too for the first time since Rd 1, makes it even more annoying!
Helenaaargh
13 Jun 2008, 23:41
is it me or does losing not really hurt that much anymore?
i mean, im pissed off...but really, i used to hate it so much more in previous years.
It's the both of us. Sure we lost the game and I am frustrated about the apparent lack of spirit, but my excuse is attributed to the youngsters and some poor form from the longer serving lads. I personally believe that the form of experienced players can rub off on the younger kids. If our older guys can fire up, I think it'll make it much easier for the new boys to follow suit.
Also... it probably doesnt hurt as much because there is potentially a huge positive coming at the end of the season.
is it me or does losing not really hurt that much anymore?
i mean, im pissed off...but really, i used to hate it so much more in previous years.
I know what you're saying Anti.
Besides last week I havent really been gutted or angry, like in previous years.
Cant wait for the draft. :D
OT, well played McNamara.
BTW was Kerr rested for the Geelong onslaught do we think?
bunsen burner
13 Jun 2008, 23:44
is it me or does losing not really hurt that much anymore?
i mean, im pissed off...but really, i used to hate it so much more in previous years.
There's a difference:
In previous years we were on the climb to premiership glory and every 4 points mattered, and more importantly, that continual improvement of both the team as a whole and development of individual players really really mattered.
Right now, we don't have a team that can win a flag. We have a forward line that has potential to develop into a flag winning forward line, and we have a back line that has potential to develop into a flag winning backlne, but we are unlikely to have a midfield that can bring us the flag.
4 points does not matter this year. Improvement of the whole team matters - but that can wait. Improvement and game time of young players is what matters. And with that hopefully will come a piece of potential premiership jigsaw - Rich (or whoever else).
I sincerely hope we lose most of our games this year without getting smashed.
Will Seaby be shipped out at seasons end?
Stereophonic
13 Jun 2008, 23:49
Im over this tanking talked being linked to us already.
i want us to go out to win every game, if we loose every game so be it.
The minute you start instilling a negaitive loosing culture into players they instinctively stay down there. We need to get at least 2 or 3 more wins into the likes of Mckinley, Masten, Ebert, Schofield, mcNamara and co. to avoid it being permanently detrimental
So is Rich a classy midfielder who can kick goals and break lines????
Is he inside or outside?
As an aside, anyone hear Buckley in reference to that WCE female supporter saying 'your going down........West Coast that is....:D
bunsen burner
14 Jun 2008, 00:09
Im over this tanking talked being linked to us already.harden up. Who cares what others say whether it be The Eagles off feld habits, or any percieved tanking.
The minute you start instilling a negaitive loosing culture into players they instinctively stay down there.
Who has said this?
We need to get at least 2 or 3 more wins into the likes of Mckinley, Masten, Ebert, Schofield, mcNamara and co. to avoid it being permanently detrimentalIt will make little difference in the big scheme of things. I've seen all of these guys show potential.
So is Rich a classy midfielder who can kick goals and break lines????
Is he inside or outside?
I'd assume the first one. All I know he is rated highly. Most midfielder who go early are the classy line breaking types.
larrikin
14 Jun 2008, 00:31
Will Seaby be shipped out at seasons end?
Lynch is a far better ruckman than him around the ground - and the coaches have obviously worked that one out.
Seaby will be gone from the team once Kennedy is fit
bigburger
14 Jun 2008, 00:33
I know what you're saying Anti.
Besides last week I havent really been gutted or angry, like in previous years.
Cant wait for the draft. :D
OT, well played McNamara.
BTW was Kerr rested for the Geelong onslaught do we think?
Hahaha. Me to Big Man. I think where about to strike it Rich :D
Will Seaby be shipped out at seasons end?
Almost a certainty. People have been bitching about a lot of players, but I'm close to putting a Seaby thread. Cox on one leg better than Seaby, Lynch is better in the ruck than Seaby. Christ, I reckon Graham would be a better option in the ruck than Seaby.
what happened to seaby? he used to be so handy as a second stringer...this was meant to be his break out season and now its the complete opposite. it sucks.
Goldfish
14 Jun 2008, 00:42
what happened to seaby? he used to be so handy as a second stringer...this was meant to be his break out season and now its the complete opposite. it sucks.
He seemed to 'break out' in the preseason, but has definitely been 'broken back in' during the real stuff this year...
Oh, and on J-Mac, great game kid, keep it up!
i wouldnt mind keeping lynchy as a 2nd ruckman. that way we can ease kennedy back in to CHF and try someone else at FF while lynch is rucking.
it could prove to be effective. he really gives us some drive out of the center because he tackles and pressures while also being able to find the ball.
i wonder if hansen will get a go at FF soon?
Black Thunder
14 Jun 2008, 01:01
when is Masten going to put together 4 quaters?
Probably not this year.
And he probably won't regularly do it next year.
not too many do in their first 2 seasons.
silly comment.
bigburger
14 Jun 2008, 01:01
i wouldnt mind keeping lynchy as a 2nd ruckman. that way we can ease kennedy back in to CHF and try someone else at FF while lynch is rucking.
it could prove to be effective. he really gives us some drive out of the center because he tackles and pressures while also being able to find the ball.
i wonder if hansen will get a go at FF soon?
I just hope that if we do end up getting rid of Seaby for some reason we DON'T force JK to go into ruck. He might be handy in there but he will be awesome at CHF.
Also I would love to Hansen deep forwards. He'd be like a half decent version of Chad Jones.
I just hope that if we do end up getting rid of Seaby for some reason we DON'T force JK to go into ruck. He might be handy in there but he will be awesome at CHF.
Also I would love to Hansen deep forwards. He'd be like a half decent version of Chad Jones.
Yeah. Agree. Hansen will do better in deep. Especially with his body being so touchy with injuries. Kennedy at CHF and Lynch everywhere else! :D
Kerrby04
14 Jun 2008, 01:08
players who do the unselfish or team things are what i admire
jmacs shepherd on neagle was outstanding
mastens half shepherd for hunter was also good
bigburger
14 Jun 2008, 01:13
Yeah. Agree. Hansen will do better in deep. Especially with his body being so touchy with injuries. Kennedy at CHF and Lynch everywhere else! :D
Can't believe how far Lynchy has come. His mobility now is probably as good as any big man in the comp. At ground level he rarely loses and I would honestly love to see him in a centre bounce down at some point this season (roving to Cox). He's such a work horse. I was calling for him to be dropped at the start of the season but i was totally wrong.
Kerrby04
14 Jun 2008, 01:31
Can't believe how far Lynchy has come. His mobility now is probably as good as any big man in the comp. At ground level he rarely loses and I would honestly love to see him in a centre bounce down at some point this season (roving to Cox). He's such a work horse. I was calling for him to be dropped at the start of the season but i was totally wrong.
werent wrong buddy, hes just not a FF
hes may be our first FF option, but he does much more outside 50
this is why people dont understand we havnt got a proper foward structure.
weve only got both pockets covered with lecras and benji and a real CHF kennedy.
we should seroiusly leave hunter at FF, give him more game time to learn the forward structure.
hes marking is good, hes kicking isnt however.
bigburger
14 Jun 2008, 01:34
hes marking is good, hes kicking isnt however.
Disagree. I would rate Hunter one of the best kicks on goal in the team. Just lost his touch at the moment. He'll be right.
Kerrby04
14 Jun 2008, 01:40
Disagree. I would rate Hunter one of the best kicks on goal in the team. Just lost his touch at the moment. He'll be right.
why would i suggest to plonk hunter at FF if he didnt have a good kick?
atm hes kicking isnt good, but yes hopefully he becomes a dead eye dik
HUnter will play FF for the remainder of the season.
As Larrkin pointed out when The Fridge is fit Seabs will back playing for the Magoos.
A shame, I rated Seabs for ages but now he just seems to be 200cm of marshmallow.
Masten2McKinley
14 Jun 2008, 01:49
he did play well as did ebert and houlahan
I like Houlihan.
Has geniune pace.
Say hello to our new wingman.
Crimson King
14 Jun 2008, 01:57
I feel Houlihan could be a handy player, the type that pops up with a goal or two.
Glad JMac has found himself back into the team, did some good stuff tonight, and will be a big part of our future.
Loved seeing LeCras back aswell, had a great last term.
greennick
14 Jun 2008, 02:43
The DT faith I paid in him has paid off.
BMckinley#1
14 Jun 2008, 03:04
It's the both of us. Sure we lost the game and I am frustrated about the apparent lack of spirit, but my excuse is attributed to the youngsters and some poor form from the longer serving lads. I personally believe that the form of experienced players can rub off on the younger kids. If our older guys can fire up, I think it'll make it much easier for the new boys to follow suit.
Also... it probably doesnt hurt as much because there is potentially a huge positive coming at the end of the season.
I agree. The seniors have to inspire the youngsters and not the other way around...As we've seen in the past few games, if the youngsters make mistakes, they try to make up for it, but the seniors just give up.
I guess being pis#ed depends on how they lose. I was proud of them on the game vs the Kangaroos in the Gold Coast.
Definately not sold on J-Mac.
Still not sure if he can really reach AFL level
Chops_a_must
14 Jun 2008, 05:10
Definately not sold on J-Mac.
Still not sure if he can really reach AFL level
Neither.
Looks like he really struggles to cover the ground like an AFL footballer.
Houlihan looks great though. Made a play at half back, and beat the ball and won it on HF. Fantastic stuff. Needs to learn how to be balanced when he kicks though.
Stereophonic
14 Jun 2008, 08:33
Probably not this year.
And he probably won't regularly do it next year.
top 3 picks put four quater efforts in their first 2 seasons.
good comment.
Edited for accuracy
Neither.
Looks like he really struggles to cover the ground like an AFL footballer.
Houlihan looks great though. Made a play at half back, and beat the ball and won it on HF. Fantastic stuff. Needs to learn how to be balanced when he kicks though.
yeah, was at the game and he will be brilliant, big, clean hands, great skills, at one point had slattery "trying" to go with him, big wrap from knights, just
never stops running.
Lecras is a bloody gem to, class. Butler was great and Ebert too and I think Jmac will make a good AFL player.
Despite the loss we do have a some great young players, just needs time.
larrikin
14 Jun 2008, 10:47
Edited for accuracy
Yeah. because Kruezer is dominating the league :rolleyes:
Stereophonic
14 Jun 2008, 11:02
Yeah. because Kruezer is dominating the league :rolleyes:
Well Larrikan your point is good execpt you miss the point that ruckmen take longer to develop. Notwithstanding, he pretty much won the game off his own boot against Port last week. Trent Cotchin looks like a superstar, and there are many other top 3 picks (including the messiah who made his debut against Collingwood) who pick up 20 odd possessions each game, or at least kick a goal or two.
My point is that top 3 picks should dominate straight away, or put in games where they dont go missing for 3 quaters...
Will Seaby be shipped out at seasons end?
Shipped, why would any other team want him? Delisted yer.
Is there any chance when Chad Jones is fit we can develop him into a ruckman? I no his played forward for several years but it mightbe our only option.
Stereophonic
14 Jun 2008, 14:14
Shipped, why would any other team want him? Delisted yer.
Is there any chance when Chad Jones is fit we can develop him into a ruckman? I no his played forward for several years but it mightbe our only option.
Gee i forgot all about this fella . Not short on forward options all of a sudden are we
Lynch
Le Cras
Chad Jones
Kennedy
Wirrpanda
Hunter
Staker
Hansen
McKinley:thumbsu:
.
Is there any chance when Chad Jones is fit we can develop him into a ruckman? I no his played forward for several years but it mightbe our only option.
No.
Struth no.
Jesus.
I don't see why people have a lack of faith in McNamara. He has so much tenacity and courage, he works very hard, seemed to do the team thing, and always pushed himself. I thought he was one of our best, and I think he will end up with a decent AFL career, perhaps in the style of Braun - a very hard working, team minded midfielder without being a superstar. I personally love what he offers.
is it me or does losing not really hurt that much anymore?
i mean, im pissed off...but really, i used to hate it so much more in previous years.
Agreed.
Its just watching games this year to see if anyone shows "signs" for the future and "hope" we do alright.
Does J-Mac's running technique remind anyone else of Cousins'?