View Full Version : Mark Seaby looks like a Giraffe on stilts
Im sorry, like Hansen I dont think he has a body capable of having an impact at AFL level.
His legs at ruck contests point inward, basically it seems as though and quite often does result in him falling over.
And as well all know, once you lose your feet you're out of the contest.
I've changed my mind, after seeing Lynch have an impact and hold his own around the ground I'd like to see Seaby traded and Sullivan fast tracked.
If he was ever going to come on he would have.
Carn the Coasters
14 Jun 2008, 04:08
Agree to an extent. I thought he had a great future ahead of him, but appears to have stagnated at minimum and it is more likely he has gone backwards. Not a good sign for a 24-year old who should be hitting the peak of his career. I haven't seen enough of Sullivan to know whether he is a real prospect as of next year, but I wouldn't want to be left with him as our second 'real' ruckman.
However, for the moment, Lynch in the ruck and Hunter at full forward is a much better option than Seaby.
Agree to an extent. I thought he had a great future ahead of him, but appears to have stagnated at minimum and it is more likely he has gone backwards. Not a good sign for a 24-year old who should be hitting the peak of his career. I haven't seen enough of Sullivan to know whether he is a real prospect as of next year, but I wouldn't want to be left with him as our second 'real' ruckman.
However, for the moment, Lynch in the ruck and Hunter at full forward is a much better option than Seaby.
I have, he'd be more than capable of playing the second dtring option for 5 or so games come the second half of the year.
Let's hope it pans out that way.
DOCKER CLINT
14 Jun 2008, 04:17
A sniper on stilts.
Carn the Coasters
14 Jun 2008, 04:22
A sniper on stilts.
Still bitter that your giant oaf can't even execute a bump and breaks his own jaw?
Had a terrible game against the Bombers, seems likely that he'll be traded at years end.
Gunnar Longshanks
14 Jun 2008, 05:29
Had a terrible game against the Bombers, seems likely that he'll be traded at years end.Why does it seem likely?
Masten_Magic
14 Jun 2008, 08:52
disgrace him and hansen out of our list!
Obeanie1
14 Jun 2008, 11:31
I had hoped that Seaby would build on his good pree season form and keep on improving.
Seeing Lynch ruck in the final quarter and do well while Seaby watched from full forward must have been a real kick in the guts for Seaby and most likely his "pink slip" out of our squad.
Where ever he ends up lets hope he's just a late developing ruckman and does well. He's a good bloke from all reports but someone just needs to get inside his head and build his confidence and desire to compete.
A Paul Roos project player maybe??
Seen more intensity in a rotting tree.
Its a bit like watching the seagulls fight for the chip as you throw them one. Theres always one bird. You could throw it at his feet and he will still be the last one to get to the chip. That seagull is like Mark Seaby with a football. The bloke rucks but is still always last to a contest. Something needs to change and quickly
he was good .. a couple of years ago .. what's happened?
SOSBenny
14 Jun 2008, 13:39
That boundary line effort late in the second quater, where he took the massive swan dive from the throw in, that just made me mad!!! Useless effort!!! :mad:
If we ended up with pick one, do you think the recruiting staff and match comittee would consider offloading Seaby and taking Natanui ahead of Rich?!?!
I think it would have its merits, by the time he is reaching his best footy, coxy will be getting on!!!
That boundary line effort late in the second quater, where he took the massive swan dive from the throw in, that just made me mad!!! Useless effort!!! :mad:
If we ended up with pick one, do you think the recruiting staff and match comittee would consider offloading Seaby and taking Natanui ahead of Rich?!?!
I think it would have its merits, by the time he is reaching his best footy, coxy will be getting on!!!
I would think the eagles recruiting staff would be looking at getting a ruckman over a richman at the draft. I dont really think we need any more young midfielders to be honest.
Oh and Seaby is finished, will be delisted, any chance Chad Jones could play ruck? Will Sullivan is not even close to getting a game.
Yarbs is clearly a Freo fan being a troll
Seaby isnt getting delisted. Just in the WAFL for a while
I'm tending to agree that if we were low enough in the picks we might be going for Nat over Rich after seeing how poor Seaby is doing. Sullivan I dont see being 'dominant', and Lynch will only ever be a rotation into the ruck... so with so many promising young mids already we prob would go Nat... not that he'll probably drop to us anyway unless we do finish last.
Why does it seem likely?
Isn't performing as our 2nd string ruckman, Lynch is a much better backup option right now. Has gone great as the main ruckman in the past when Cox hasn't played, so he may look towards leaving and being another team's number 1.
Strider83
14 Jun 2008, 16:39
Seaby has no impact, but I think even Cox was a bit of a mismatch on Hille. Lynch seemed to be doing much better. I think WC will keep playing Seaby till the end of the year to give him more value in a trade.
beatlesmith
14 Jun 2008, 16:41
what about kosi??? Would be great at FF with Kennedy at CHF, with mckinley and lecras in the pockets. His trade value has decreased over the past year or two and we could afford his salary. Is a better ruckman and forward than seaby, and we could trade seaby for draft picks to st kilda as part of the exchange or for young kids in the draft.
Seaby for an early 2nd round
2nd round, 3rd round and staker for kosi??
Kosi takes a great contested mark, is very mobile and is a good kick for goals. With him at FF, cones and hansen could also be offloaded for either draft picks or delisted to make more space for rookie picks and salary cap.
Have kosi and lynch rotating through as backup ruck, with the other at FF.
Crimson King
14 Jun 2008, 16:46
The most frustrating thing is he will rip his opponent apart one week and for the rest of the month he will get smashed. Against Kangaroos he ripped it good and since then he hasnt done anything good.
Staker in the ruckmen mould? ;)
NickNat has been training at the club for the last two weeks.
In and out of the gym, Peter Worsfold and he are pretty tight.
another really patchy game for seaby against essendon.
with the way lynch is going, the only reason seaby should be playing is to increase his trade value... although that'll backfire with too many more efforts like last night.
eaglesnutcase
14 Jun 2008, 21:10
agree with the comments about seabys current form buuuttt ... when it comes to bodies crunching packs he is one of the very very few to fully commit his body to a crunching pack.against sydney the ball came long into f/f he got there late but fully committed to the contest got crunched but caused the spillage.he played his best footy when leading the ruck.cox is a fantastic footballer but if he has a weakness it is his lack of physicality which our young side is crying out for.why not play cox at fullforward with lynch and kennedy further up the ground?i think seaby would improve in leaps and bounds.what have we got to lose?? in the final v port last year seaby also did 2 crunching full body spoils.
Masten2McKinley
14 Jun 2008, 23:34
Agree to an extent. I thought he had a great future ahead of him, but appears to have stagnated at minimum and it is more likely he has gone backwards. Not a good sign for a 24-year old who should be hitting the peak of his career. I haven't seen enough of Sullivan to know whether he is a real prospect as of next year, but I wouldn't want to be left with him as our second 'real' ruckman.
However, for the moment, Lynch in the ruck and Hunter at full forward is a much better option than Seaby.
Agrred hunter up forward is great just needs to get his kicking back
Melbourne will grab Natanui peeps.
THEY will finish last we finish 2nd last.
Cheers
agree with the comments about seabys current form buuuttt ... when it comes to bodies crunching packs he is one of the very very few to fully commit his body to a crunching pack.against sydney the ball came long into f/f he got there late but fully committed to the contest got crunched but caused the spillage.he played his best footy when leading the ruck.cox is a fantastic footballer but if he has a weakness it is his lack of physicality which our young side is crying out for.why not play cox at fullforward with lynch and kennedy further up the ground?i think seaby would improve in leaps and bounds.what have we got to lose?? in the final v port last year seaby also did 2 crunching full body spoils.
FFS. :mad:
____ me guys, hes badly out of form, but paul medhurst was too when the docks traded him.
hes a great contested mark, and in form and on his day is a very good ruckman at stoppages and around the ground. have you forgotten when coxy was injured the way he held down the ruck?
ruck depth is a rare commodity in the AFL, and you people want to trade it away? when hes out of form, out of the side and not worth anything? when we will struggle to get a late second rounder for him? bad idea.
let him refind his form, refind his spot, and continue developing
Stoner08
15 Jun 2008, 03:16
How old is he though like 24?
When does development stop?
Obeanie1
15 Jun 2008, 11:59
If Melbourne snare Warnock from Freo in trade week or the Pre Season draft they will get their ruckman.
If that happens who knows if they will go for Natanui or a mid in Rich.
Either way its win - win if we get the 2nd pick.
Natanui would be a great marketing tool, he looks so much different than the average footy player and they do need $$$$ badly.
TheBigUnit
15 Jun 2008, 19:08
I think Seaby, like a lot of tall players, is a player that relies a lot on momentum/confidence and that only comes with extended runs on the ground/good TOG (which he obviously doesn't get with Cox). It's clear his best rucking games have been when he has the added responsibility of being the no.1 ruck (Cox was injured). I can't recall him playing a standout game as a back-up ruck. I think he'll only blossom if he becomes no. 1 ruck, if not he'll probably dwindle along playing poor/average games. IMO Lynch is the better option as back-up ruck, but if Cox is out of the side, injured, then Seaby would be the best option as no. 1 ruck.
garlic munchers
15 Jun 2008, 23:50
200cm Marshmallow.
That's a bit harsh on marshmallows!
Unfortunately it is very difficult to instill agression into players. Skills can be improved but no matter how hard the coaching staff try, players like Seaby and Staker will always appear soft at AFL level (AKA McDoudgall).
A couple of soft players can be covered when you have a few hard nuts, but at he moment only Waters would cause any concern if you were the opposition.
That's a bit harsh on marshmallows!
Unfortunately it is very difficult to instill agression into players. Skills can be improved but no matter how hard the coaching staff try, players like Seaby and Staker will always appear soft at AFL level (AKA McDoudgall).
A couple of soft players can be covered when you have a few hard nuts, but at he moment only Waters would cause any concern if you were the opposition.
Who is in the top five for contested possesions.
Eagle Ant
17 Jun 2008, 06:13
Im sorry, like Hansen I dont think he has a body capable of having an impact at AFL level.
His legs at ruck contests point inward, basically it seems as though and quite often does result in him falling over.
And as well all know, once you lose your feet you're out of the contest.
I've changed my mind, after seeing Lynch have an impact and hold his own around the ground I'd like to see Seaby traded and Sullivan fast tracked.
If he was ever going to come on he would have.
Hey What was That TRUMPY the other week you were sticking it to me for mentioning the same thing.:eek::confused:
I think an Apoligy is in order, Maybe I dont write shit after all maybe i just see things a little earlier then others.:p