Shaun McKernan

[Delisted]

Shaun McKernan Coreys Brother and from various reports he looks very similar to what his big bro was. Where do people think he will go if he goes at all?

[The Teflon Dean]

North.

He's a one eyed fan of the club and I think clubs know North would get him 2 years later even if they did draft him.

[year of the cat]

North.

He's a one eyed fan of the club and I think clubs know North would get him 2 years later even if they did draft him.


Just have to make sure you're still around then in 2 years for him to be traded then..;)

In all seriousness though your comment is rubbish. Do you really reckon that a club other than North will avoid drafting McKernan purely because his brother played for and he loves the kangaroos?

[THE_GUN]

North.

He's a one eyed fan of the club and I think clubs know North would get him 2 years later even if they did draft him.every club will be looking at him & unless north finish 10th or lower they will miss out.
know that j.trengove has gone down with a knee mckernan will be in the top 5-6 drafted.
natunui
rich
hurley
banner
watts
mckernan

[The Teflon Dean]

Just have to make sure you're still around then in 2 years for him to be traded then..;)

In all seriousness though your comment is rubbish. Do you really reckon that a club other than North will avoid drafting McKernan purely because his brother played for and he loves the kangaroos?

Hey, I hope someone else goes ahead and drafts him.:thumbsu:

I assure you, we will only have to look in his direction to get him 2 years later.

Clubs would definitely want to take that in to account.

[Bourky23]

every club will be looking at him & unless north finish 10th or lower they will miss out.
know that j.trengove has gone down with a knee mckernan will be in the top 5-6 drafted.
natunui
rich
hurley
banner
watts
mckernan

????:confused::confused:

[Monkey King]

I assure you, we will only have to look in his direction to get him 2 years later.

LMAO... James Fantasia board.

[Dave The Man]

Highlights:

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Looks very good for a Big Kid - Would love him to come to collingwood in the Draft.

So where would he go in the Draft?

[marcmurphy3]

Can he play CHF?

[Dave The Man]

Can he play CHF?
Looks like he could

[Bourky23]

don't see him passing past kanga's pick

[Groucho]

don't see him passing past kanga's pick

Based on what I've seen here I hope that's true!

[McManus2Waterhouse]

north will get him lock it in

[tw0kbydesign]

Jeebus good hands. Hope he actually has some vision under lights though!

[Masten2McKinley]

looks like he can play CHF and CHB, big boy and has great hands and a long kick, def top 10 poick i say

[Paddy_Mac]

looks like he can play CHF and CHB, big boy and has great hands and a long kick, def top 10 poick i say
Just what we need. :)

[Ebert80]

Just what we need. :)

Too bad Kangas first pick will be after Port's :cool: :p

[AGRESSION]

All i can think of when i see this kids highlight package is Royce Hart.
To me, he has the kicking style/running and marking style of Royce.
And hair to boot.

So anyone out there who watches this group of highlights, i would appreciate an understanding of where i am coming from, or am i off the mark ?

http://bigpondvideo.com/AFLTV/63179

http://img93.imageshack.us/img93/4088/70459504kh4.jpg

[Banga19]

Haven't read much about him in recent times.

How's he traveling? At this stage, how would he compare against someone like Lewis Johnston, in terms of how high he would go?

[SELFCONFESDAFLNERD]

HOpe he goes to NMFC, but wouldn't mind us getting yarran if still available

[Boomer88]

doubt we would take him for the sole reason of being coreys brother

[efcboy]

shaun mckernan is the real deal - quality player. don't know that he would last until norths pick anyway (no.13). he could well go top ten.

[Dave The Man]

shaun mckernan is the real deal - quality player. don't know that he would last until norths pick anyway (no.13). he could well go top ten.

I agree but some other people think he is a 10-25 Pick

[Cruiser23]

I agree but some other people think he is a 10-25 Pick

I think this might be because of the question marks on his position at AFL level? He's probably a little to small to become a number one ruckman (though his leap might make him a very handy back-up), probably not a one-to-one defender and he isn't extra special on the lead up forward. Personally i think he'll become somewhat similar to Drew Petrie (who is a very good player) and depending on the top 4, i can see him going anywhere between Richmond's pick and the Roos' pick. There is a possibility that he might slide but i'd be surprised if he was still around when the Dees have their priority pick.

[Gilly1972]

I think this might be because of the question marks on his position at AFL level? He's probably a little to small to become a number one ruckman (though his leap might make him a very handy back-up), probably not a one-to-one defender and he isn't extra special on the lead up forward. Personally i think he'll become somewhat similar to Drew Petrie (who is a very good player) and depending on the top 4, i can see him going anywhere between Richmond's pick and the Roos' pick. There is a possibility that he might slide but i'd be surprised if he was still around when the Dees have their priority pick.

We haven't really seen him play much down back, but apparently (I wasn't at the game) he played CHB last week and acquitted himself very well.

[mightymightyblues]

I've been hearing a lot about the taller forward and rucks. IE Vickery, Trengrove but I haven't heard much about Shaun McKernan.

I did hear though during the U-18 Championships that he was expected to go in the top 10 but now looking at the publics mock drafts, it seems no one can make room for him in their top 20.

Where does this boy sit in terms of what pick he will go at and what does he have to offer a club?

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

He was top 10 only a matter of time ago, but he has dropped as other players have over taken. He could easily still be a top 10 prospect, but it depends on where teams rate him.

For eg. Adelaide last year rated Dangerfield top 10, and didnt even have Palmer in their top 10.

This year Adelaide might rate him top 5, and that goes for other teams.

I couldnt see him slipping any further than 15th.

[The Cotch]

I really don't rate him as a CHF. A bit slow. And I don't rate him as a ruckman as hes only 196cm.

Where does he sit? Good question, an in-between player.

Hope I'm wrong.

[THE_GUN]

seems to have fallen out of favour with most mock draft predictions.
from all reports didnt really live up to expectations in the last few months.
i dont think he will be a ruckman but could pinch hit in the ruck(2nd or 3rd ruckman) will probably end up a chf but there seems to be doubts about his speed & stamina. im thinking he could end up going anywhere from
17-35 unless kangaroos decide to take him for sentimental reasons.
the only other team that may take him with a 1st round pick is adelaide.

[telsor]

I really don't rate him as a CHF. A bit slow. And I don't rate him as a ruckman as hes only 196cm.

Where does he sit? Good question, an in-between player.

Hope I'm wrong.


Same...A good player, but too short to play Ruck, and probably not quite good enough to be a 'top-10' solely as a KF. Too good to sink too far though, so I'd guess 10-30.

[kingcarey18]

usually on a chair

[The Cotch]

usually on a chair
:D That was on my mind, i didnt want to be a smart ass :p

[HBF]

Somewhere between 10-25. :thumbsu:
Given that he a KPP, and can play in the ruck, a club in this range will find it too hard to pass him up.

[The Purple Jesus]

I have only seen a couple of hignlights of this guy. For those that have seen a bit more of him I would be interested to know how he stacks up against his brother at the same age? My club Freo will need to pick up a ruckman in this draft at some stage and depending if Naitanui goes 1 or 2 we may need to look at this guy with our 2nd pick if he is still available

[woe31]

Have only seen a couple of highlights packages and one of his matches at the champs and came away impressed with the kid. Has very strong hands, is versatile and is a long, accurate kick of the ball. From the little I've seen, I'd love to have him in the red and blue next year.

For those that have seen more of him other than being perceived as slow and perhaps not having a position at AFL level, what other weaknesses (if any) has he shown?

[whelan=legend]

If he's around pick 17 then we'll snap him up.

[James_37]

seems to have fallen out of favour with most mock draft predictions.
from all reports didnt really live up to expectations in the last few months.
i dont think he will be a ruckman but could pinch hit in the ruck(2nd or 3rd ruckman) will probably end up a chf but there seems to be doubts about his speed & stamina. im thinking he could end up going anywhere from
17-35 unless kangaroos decide to take him for sentimental reasons.
the only other team that may take him with a 1st round pick is adelaide.

How has he gone when played up forward? To me he sounds very much like your classic "tweener", correct me if I'm wrong, but played ruck most of his life, but will be too small to be a permanent ruck at AFL level, hence will have to become a KPP, question is can he do it. We drafted Sellar a couple of years back who was in a similar situation and he's taking sweet f'ing time to develop into a KPF. Sellar still has plenty of time and may still make it, I just doubt, especially with Tippet as well learning the position, that we'd go for another bloke who isn't a natural/experienced forward.

Good prospect by the sounds, but the Crows may be hesitant towards grabbing him with our first round.

[wall_ryan]

How has he gone when played up forward? To me he sounds very much like your classic "tweener", correct me if I'm wrong, but played ruck most of his life, but will be too small to be a permanent ruck at AFL level, hence will have to become a KPP, question is can he do it. We drafted Sellar a couple of years back who was in a similar situation and he's taking sweet f'ing time to develop into a KPF. Sellar still has plenty of time and may still make it, I just doubt, especially with Tippet as well learning the position, that we'd go for another bloke who isn't a natural/experienced forward.

Good prospect by the sounds, but the Crows may be hesitant towards grabbing him with our first round.

It does have a bit f Sellar written on it doesn't it.

He looked pretty comfortable up frward from what I saw at the carnival. I don't think we'd take him but you never know.

That insight into Rendell's top 10 last year is a good read.

[Slattery_20]

Where is that available?

[telsor]

usually on a chair

At his size, he sits whereever he wants to!

[Moo]

Early to mid 2nd round.

Won't drop to the 3rd round IMHO.

[db26]

Hi guys just wanting your view on this kid sounds like something very special.Had a good season and awsome draft camp.What is his best position?.People on the tigers board rate him high. Would he be good as a number one ruckman at 196 cm i know his leap is awsome and tap work good to and great around the ground.Thoughts??

[smithos]

Genuinely big bodied kp who are fast, disciplined and aggressive always find a home early, top 10 for mine

[davemills]

Genuinely big bodied kp who are fast, disciplined and aggressive always find a home early, top 10 for mine

Should be a top 10 for mine as well.

I think he is your limited downside/upside guy. He has physical tools that will help him be a jack dyer 'good average player'. However I don't think he quite has the mindset to be a champion either.

I think his best bet is to be a standout is CHB with pinch hits in the ruck as required. My thinking is that at CHB the game would come to him more and thus it would be more about the physical than the mental.

What are the opinions people have on his disposal efficiency? That's my biggest question mark.

[bigstyletiger]

I think he's a big chance to be top 10 might go as high as essendon. he is the same height at troy simmonds, and a bit taller than jeff white. Big leap, very high tap to advantage ration and he is very quick for someone who is his hight. Clubs might be looking for more mobile rucks due to four boundary umps. Terry has always been a fan of ruckman that can do more than just ruck and as such he may be very keen on him.

Could be a very versatile player with the ability to play ff, chf, ruck, chb.

[Mystical Mac]

I dont think he will go top 10 and i think whoever gets him after that will get the bargin of a lifetime. he will be a real gun. Has everything you want in a big guy!!:thumbsu::thumbsu:

[ROYAL EAGLE]

I dont think he will go top 10 and i think whoever gets him after that will get the bargin of a lifetime. he will be a real gun. Has everything you want in a big guy!!:thumbsu::thumbsu:

He would be perfect for Geelong at 15 dont know if he will last that long though.

Perfect replacement for Cam Mooney.

What do Geelong supporters think ?

[moond0g]

He would be perfect for Geelong at 15 dont know if he will last that long though.

Perfect replacement for Cam Mooney.

What do Geelong supporters think ?

very happy with him, and i think a real chance he will be around at 15. looks mobile for a big guy and would be very satisfied if wells ended up picking him at 15

[Collins-Langford-Ayres]

First round pick, 8th - 14th?

[sross]

First round pick, 8th - 14th?

Adelaide at the latest.

[year of the cat]

Whilst I would be very happy with him at pick 15, I think that is very unlikely to happen. I think most if not all of the talented talls (McKernan, Trengove, Johnston and Watts) will be taken earlier than is expected, with these teams looking for smalls in the second and third rounds.

[vinnie_vegas69]

He would be perfect for Geelong at 15 dont know if he will last that long though.

Perfect replacement for Cam Mooney.

What do Geelong supporters think ?
I don't think he'll last that long, and I don't know that Geelong really need a Cam Mooney replacement, given that they've got Tom Hawkins and Scott Simpson both looking good in the reserves, as well as Tom Lonergan still relatively young and the developing Dan McKenna.

That said, they don't have huge needs at too many other spots either, so it could be a go.

[Bourky23]

I had him slipping to 15 in my draft i was doing on a radio program (geelong one so i thought i better please the locals haha) nah seriously though, i reckon he's every chance to slide that far.. right now i'd say somewhere between 8-15

i reckon his in betweenish sort of height will put a lot of clubs off (especially the lower clubs who are looking for something to develop) whereas i reckon he can contribute to a top 8 side next year because there is no doubt the kid can play

[Porps_is_HOT_loz]

First round pick, 8th - 14th?
I rekon you could stretch that to Sydney.. or maybe Geelong.




Geelong.

[jgb99]

He seems like the type you either love because he's tall, very athletic, mobile, can play anywhere and has footballing ability, or hate because he's tweener height and doesn't have a definite AFL role.

[Cruiser23]

He seems like the type you either love because he's tall, very athletic, mobile, can play anywhere and has footballing ability, or hate because he's tweener height and doesn't have a definite AFL role.

Definitely my question mark on him. Don't see him become a top ruckman in league (which was the main position he played in the TAC Cup), even though his leap is very good, i think he will struggle at 196 in the ruck.

He doesn't seem to be a natural CHF or CHB either which brings me to the question where is he going to play? Personally, i've said this before, i think he might become a similar player to Drew Petrie in that he is capable of playing a number of position well without being an absolute stand out in any of them.

[ROYAL EAGLE]

very happy with him, and i think a real chance he will be around at 15. looks mobile for a big guy and would be very satisfied if wells ended up picking him at 15

I had the chance to speak to Neil Balme and Wells at the Telstra Dome for the grand final of under 18's and they where very impressed by him.

Neil Balme is a family friend, my Dad and him grew up together.

So if McKernan lasts to 15 I think he will be taken by you guys.

[Richo83]

McKernan has been linked with Richmond yet he is often picked in the later rounds for mock drafts, is this kid a genuine top prospect? Or would it be another type pick for Richmond which could turn out to be a failure (JON)? I know he's different to JON but there seems to be better prospects such as midfielders Hartlett and talls Vickery. Trengove is constantly talked as a top ten pick yet McKernan not so much.

Richmond have drafted bit players before, is McKernan a tweener, not quite forward, not quite ruckman? Tweener talls who are not quite anything and try to find a position often struggle to cement their position, and I don't want Richmond picking a type player who has no set position and is a kinda bit player at best. I just think picking someone like Vickery who is a sure ruckman it seems or Hartlett who seems a sure midfielder would be better. What do the experts think?

[stefoid]

If he has the skill, how can he be 'too tall' for a keypo? Surely a good 198cm keypo is better than a good 194cm keypo.

[Vacuous Space]

What do the experts think?

I'm no expert, but I don't think McKernan is a tweener. I think he's good enough to play anywhere. He's athletic enough to play KP at either end or in the ruck. I think the same about Trengove. I'm much more worried that McEvoy is too big and slow for today's game than I would be with Trengove or McKernan's lack of size. The trend seems to be toward smaller more mobile rucks anyway.

[moond0g]

If he has the skill, how can he be 'too tall' for a keypo? Surely a good 198cm keypo is better than a good 194cm keypo.

exactly. hale played pretty much as a full time kpf toward the end of the season and he's over 2 metres. i think people assume that as these people get taller they get less mobile and lose agility, which a lot of the time is true, but if you can nab one at 196 that can move like a 186 then go for it. this is what makes franklin such a superstar, he can walk around most full backs thats how much more agility and coordination he has, if he wasnt the best forward in the leauge he would probably be one of the best wingers imo

now i dont know much about mckernan and how he moves but i'm sure every recruiter in the land would, plus his dc tests were pretty good from memory. i think he'll be a good player for a pretty long time. maybe not a superstar, but a good player nevertheless

another reason i like swift too. at 192 (same height as pavlich and fevola), he is nearly tall enough to play as a 2nd or 3rd tall. just as corey went back for us one game this year. would rather both of them in the middle but always good to have that option.

[Richo83]

I'm no expert, but I don't think McKernan is a tweener. I think he's good enough to play anywhere. He's athletic enough to play KP at either end or in the ruck. I think the same about Trengove. I'm much more worried that McEvoy is too big and slow for today's game than I would be with Trengove or McKernan's lack of size. The trend seems to be toward smaller more mobile rucks anyway.

Yeah, it's just that in the recent bigfooty draft has him going to 22 and most have him falling outside the top 10, with many phantom drafts having him go to Sydney. People seem to talk up Trengove alot more than McKernan. Richmond has a history of picking the type player when it should've picked the best available. Last time Richmond picked for type it was a nightmare. Would 8 be a reach?

[Pafloyul]

Yeah, it's just that in the recent bigfooty draft has him going to 22 and most have him falling outside the top 10, with many phantom drafts having him go to Sydney. People seem to talk up Trengove alot more than McKernan. Richmond has a history of picking the type player when it should've picked the best available. Last time Richmond picked for type it was a nightmare. Would 8 be a reach?

It depends on your definition of "best available".

Richmond did exactly that when it picked Deledio and Tambling and missed out on the 'risky' Franklin (I think some were worried about his temperament).

[THE_GUN]

mckernan will become a true chf , he has pace & endurance and the biggest hands in the draft 196cm and around 95 kg and has a bit of mongrel in him aswell.
i would be wrapped if we got him, nobody can ever replace richo
but he looks the goods.
in regards to reaching he will be gone in the first round so whats the diffrence if he is selected at 8 or 16.
if you can recognise the talent you want & its there JUST GRAB IT
thats what the hawks did with franklin.

[crowsarethebest]

mckernan will become a true chf , he has pace & endurance and the biggest hands in the draft 196cm and around 95 kg and has a bit of mongrel in him aswell.
i would be wrapped if we got him, nobody can ever replace richo
but he looks the goods.
in regards to reaching he will be gone in the first round so whats the diffrence if he is selected at 8 or 16.
if you can recognise the talent you want & its there JUST GRAB IT
thats what the hawks did with franklin.

A few of the talls are rated lower than what they will go. Apparently we're super keen on McKernan, Trengove, Lisle and Davis- all will go first round with Trengove and McKernan probably top 10 picks.

[Dave The Man]

New Video of McKernan:

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[Doobie]

Yeah, it's just that in the recent bigfooty draft has him going to 22 and most have him falling outside the top 10, with many phantom drafts having him go to Sydney. People seem to talk up Trengove alot more than McKernan. Richmond has a history of picking the type player when it should've picked the best available. Last time Richmond picked for type it was a nightmare. Would 8 be a reach?dont worry about the bigfootey draft will b a chf not a ruckman super fast and big will b a star hope we get him

[THE_GUN]

i really dont understand some of the negativity on this board about this kid (mckernan) im presuming its because he is corey,s brother.
corey mckernan was a good player that went through a bad patch for a couple of years but i still remember him totally destroying us a number of times.
if his name wasnt mckernan im sure people would be jumping on his bandwagon like trengove or vickery.
as i have stated before i would me more than happy with him at pick 8
this kid is a footballer that has very good speed & agility for his size
superb marking and reads the play as good as any of the kids in the draft
he is 196cm and could possibly grow another 2-3 cm.
a fowardline combining reiwoldt,mckernan,morton,hughes sounds & looks
as potent as any in the afl in 2-3 years.
richmond have a verygood back half developing & an excellent midfield that will be possibly one of the best in a couple of years.

[Tiger08]

I think this might be because of the question marks on his position at AFL level? He's probably a little to small to become a number one ruckman (though his leap might make him a very handy back-up), probably not a one-to-one defender and he isn't extra special on the lead up forward. Personally i think he'll become somewhat similar to Drew Petrie (who is a very good player) and depending on the top 4, i can see him going anywhere between Richmond's pick and the Roos' pick. There is a possibility that he might slide but i'd be surprised if he was still around when the Dees have their priority pick.

Is this thread about Kreuzer??

Sorry, couldn't help it.

[Richo83]

It depends on your definition of "best available".

Richmond did exactly that when it picked Deledio and Tambling and missed out on the 'risky' Franklin (I think some were worried about his temperament).

Fair enough. I think Franklin had more wraps on him than this kid. I just want to avoid another drafting nightmare, and both our ruckmen aren't really pure ruckmen but are hybrids and McKernan is being touted as a Petrie type, as in a hybrid. Trying to patch up two areas. But hey I'd love to be proved wrong. Richmond pick him and he turns into a superstar, just adds to the depth of the draft if McKernan is another solid pick. Richmond would be happy with Watts, Natanui, Rich, Vickery, Hartlett and Ziebell, and I think Trengove and McKernan would do well but probably aren't as solid picks as the others. Richmond hasn't had a decent ruckman for years.

[Azzleberry]

WOW!!! I have had massive doubts over McKernan for the last month but after watchin that 2 minute video... yes i know its only a highlight package.. put together with his draft results and the fact that he looks like a genuine CHF, he looks the ideal pick for tigers at 8... This could well be richo's last year and I would not want to rely on Cleave Hughes and Jack Riewoldt to hold the forward line together... this guy is a big pack crashing forward and looks to be a star. Tigers Pick McKernan at 8, then either a ruckman at 26 or outside/flashy mid...

[yaco55]

WOW!!! I have had massive doubts over McKernan for the last month but after watchin that 2 minute video... yes i know its only a highlight package.. put together with his draft results and the fact that he looks like a genuine CHF, he looks the ideal pick for tigers at 8... This could well be richo's last year and I would not want to rely on Cleave Hughes and Jack Riewoldt to hold the forward line together... this guy is a big pack crashing forward and looks to be a star. Tigers Pick McKernan at 8, then either a ruckman at 26 or outside/flashy mid...

You would be better to draft Lewis Johnstone.

[Azzleberry]

You would be better to draft Lewis Johnstone.

I was thinkin more between McKernan and Trengove.. Johnstone is rated after these two guys isn't he??

[Bourky23]

Johnston is too similar to Jack Riewoldt for mine.. i'd say Richmond would be much more likely to take Trengove or McKernan if that's the way they decide to go... although Johnston is a "power forward", he's still only low 190cms and Richmond have that group well and truely covered.. someone like McKernan (high 190's) would suit Richmonds structure much better i feel.. he could almost become Richo's replacement in all seriousness.. has a great engine, great set of hands and is very athletic.

don't read much into McKernan sliding to pick 22 in the Phantom because i get the feeling he'll go much higher. he's a fantastic footballer

[Bourky23]

FWIW i think Richmond will take Ziebell or Sidebottom though (provided of course at least one is available) or Hartlett if he slides that far

[Richo83]

Johnston is too similar to Jack Riewoldt for mine.. i'd say Richmond would be much more likely to take Trengove or McKernan if that's the way they decide to go... although Johnston is a "power forward", he's still only low 190cms and Richmond have that group well and truely covered.. someone like McKernan (high 190's) would suit Richmonds structure much better i feel.. he could almost become Richo's replacement in all seriousness.. has a great engine, great set of hands and is very athletic.

don't read much into McKernan sliding to pick 22 in the Phantom because i get the feeling he'll go much higher. he's a fantastic footballer

Agreed plus Hughes isn't a beanpole either. I'm starting to feel a bit better about McKernan now, here's the thing though if we want him to replace Richo how does he play KPP? Richo is a born wingman now it seems. ;) A question for you bourky, how do you think McKernan compares to Trengove as a KPP cum ruck? And how do they compare in ruck and KPP positions? Can Shaun only play forward, can Jackson only play back?

[Bourky23]

Trengove probably has more runs on the board as far as rucking goes (was very good in the middle last year against the likes of Kreuzer etc.) but i didn't see alot of him this season that would suggest he could handle the ruck fulltime.. he obviously has a great leap but still at around 196cm's he is too short to ruck at AFL level.. Trengove would be more versatile than McKernan IMO but Shaun is probably a better Key Position prospect (i see Trengove being a 3rd man up rather than playing on the big forwards)... it's a win/win no matter who you select. Trengove is just a really, really gutsy player who is super athletic. some of his contested marking work has to be seen to be believed.. yet McKernan is no slouch either.. they are really hard to seperate because they are so similar yet so different. if i had to predict...

McKernan = will end up being an Athletic CHF who can play up the ground or deep forward.. will spend about 80% of his time up forward and 20% in the ruck/roaming

Trengove = will began as a 3rd tall and depending on his progress could possibly end up as a Key Back.. can play at either end but i think CHB will be his most likely position in the future.. probably 25% in the Ruck and 75% down back early in his career... it all depends on where he ends up

as i said it's a win/win no matter who gets them, both are brilliant. I like them both for different reasons, but if i had to choose i'd probably go with Trengove.. actually McKernan.. argh too hard! Trengove it is!

[Bourky23]

Can Shaun only play forward, can Jackson only play back?

both can play anywhere really.. as i said though, Trengove would be more versatile IMO just because i don't see an AFL club trying to turn Shaun into a Key defender, yet i can see Trengove pinch hitting up forward early in his career

[Richo83]

I'm not feeling to bad now, the hun had us set for Shaun and I was worried. We do need more forward prospects I just don't want us reaching too much. If we picked Cornelius for instance I'd be not pleased. Riewoldt/Hughes/McKernan would be a nice set up and Hughes isn't set yet. With players like Morton and Pettifer playing forward and Deledio and Tambling rotating there, I think we'd be covered for Richo's departure. If Trengove plays 3rd tall, Riewoldt and Moore play those in each end respectively so that wouldn't help and Trengove as you say is too short for ruck. I think Trengove will be gone before our pick anyway so it's academic IMO.

Quigley made a good point in his draft though that Richmond has a case for drafting pretty much everywhere. Hartlett would help further develop our midfield, Vickery would help rucks and McKernan would help forwardline. Wallace seems set on the Moore/McGuane/Thursfield trio and Rance is still there, which is why I'm not exactly keen on Hurley (infact like Rance if Essendon or Carlton don't pick him he could really slide IMO) and more a mature aged player. Which is why I can see Richmond picking a number of players from Ziebell to Vickery. Even Yarran would be in the mix with Brown getting on and Deledio and Tambling moving into the center. Richmond's pick will be interesting and will shape the draft, it's one of the hardest picks to know IMO with Essendon's.

[THE_GUN]

the more we look at it the more confusing it gets & we like just about every player ranked in the top 10.
vickery,ziebell,hartlett,mckernan,trengove, i would be happy with
dont wants with pick 8 are swift(would love him at 26 but) yarran,sidebottom,blease,cornelius.
as for needs for the tigers wouldnt be too unhappy with
8. mckernan/trengove/vickery
26. roughead/lisle
58. brown/sibosado

i wouldnt mind going all big this draft.

[Richo83]

Our midfield isn't finished yet, it's still not as good as Carlton's, Coughlan is no certainty and players like JON haven't kicked. Even if we go tall early I'd like some midfield picks.

[THE_GUN]

have faith in.
delidio,cotchin,tambling,tuck,foley,newman,brown,white,coggs ,newman,connors,edwards,collins,raines
thomson,

all fairly young & fair bit of talent there.

[pkr31]

I believe Shaun will be picked by the Roos at 9.
we need someone to fill Thompsons shoes.
i dont reckon David Hale is good enough yet cnsistent enough.
i kno Shaun quite well and he is the type of person that all a midfielder has to do is kick it in the hole and let Shaun do the rest.
I think he will go quite High, everyone is simpy riding him off.

[Top_4_Tiger]

BF draft he went about 22, herald sun he went 24.

If he slips to 26 I'll be shocked and happy :D

But he will probably go earlier.

[Richo83]

From Quayle in the age:

Adelaide is looking at him seriously, but the crows would also be waiting on the latest test of Jackson Trengove's nerve problem. If he doesn't end up at west lakes, it's hard to pick where he'll fall, given that other players will have also slipped down the order. His range is somewhere from pick 10 to 16.

Interesting, what do people think of that?

[pkr31]

yeah
But when Adelaide interviewed Shaun they wernt very impressed.
and knew nothing about him.
According to his mother.
North Melbourne
Melbourne and
Port Adelaide seemed more interested and more professional.

[cormick]

I still reckon he'll go earlier than most think, to Richmond or North.
Both have connections - one needs a key forward, one had his brother star for them - and he may be the key forward either of them need...

If I had my way, I'd get Ziebell.
If he's gone, I'd want McKernan ahead of anyone else who is a chance to be available...