View Full Version : Buddy's been reprimanded.......
macdaddio
16 Jun 2008, 17:59
Buddy is available for this wekends game. a little win for us.........:thumbsu:
as stated on SEN 125 points
Leather Poisoning
16 Jun 2008, 18:00
Buddy is available for this wekends game. a little win for us.........:thumbsu:
Hasn't had two bad games low scoring games in a row for 12 months. I expect him to come out and play well.
delirious1
16 Jun 2008, 18:01
Common sense. got what he deserved, was accidental, nothing really in it
Watch the bigfooty masses whinge
Goldhawk
16 Jun 2008, 18:01
Just means he can't win the brownlow or they could fight the charge
CAPTAINCRAWF
16 Jun 2008, 18:02
Sensational. North fans will hate it Ha Ha.:thumbsu:
Does he get any carry over points with a reprimand:confused:
Woodside Hawk
16 Jun 2008, 18:02
I'd say more than a little win! That's great news, bring it on, can't wait for Saturday already!
Any idea if he carries any points over from this?
Leather Poisoning
16 Jun 2008, 18:03
Now all we need is the media to demonise buddy for the next five days and he'll come out and bag 9 bad boys.
CouchPotato
16 Jun 2008, 18:03
Happy to take it. IMO it was accidental and he had no case to answer. But with the way we get treated at the tribunal, we should just take it and walk away.
mighty_fighting
16 Jun 2008, 18:04
Doin the happy dance.....doin the happy dance :D:D
:rolleyes:
Alabama Hot Pocket
16 Jun 2008, 18:06
You'll take it but jeez he was stiff.
CAPTAINCRAWF
16 Jun 2008, 18:07
I'd say more than a little win! That's great news, bring it on, can't wait for Saturday already!
Any idea if he carries any points over from this?
Sensational. North fans will hate it Ha Ha.:thumbsu:
Does he get any carry over points with a reprimand:confused:
No need to be a copy cat WH:p
flukeyluke
16 Jun 2008, 18:08
Awesome news and probably the right result.
allaboutseptember
16 Jun 2008, 18:09
yeah the points do carry over but i dont think he will put himself in the same position again except for in a GF
well lets hope he really turns it on!!! should get plenty of supply with McIntosh out of the Roos line up!!!!
Metin91
16 Jun 2008, 18:10
great news should have 70 goals by the end of this week:thumbsu:
macdaddio
16 Jun 2008, 18:11
Just means he can't win the brownlow or they could fight the charge
Think they will acept this and move on, Brownlow meens nothing its the premiership that counts............
Macquarie Eagle
16 Jun 2008, 18:13
Just hope the carry over points don't come back to bite us come finals....
Just a quick question with the betting.
So "Buddy with no weeks" bet wins despite 125 points? :confused:
sir_jaycee
16 Jun 2008, 18:16
This is shocking news, nothing in it.
I want the club to contest this , even if there is a chance in losing him for a week.
We dont need him to have points hanging over his head and than lose him in a Granny for wresting ect
The club needs to fight this.
Macquarie Eagle
16 Jun 2008, 18:19
This is shocking news, nothing in it.
I want the club to contest this , even if there is a chance in losing him for a week.
We dont need him to have points hanging over his head and than lose him in a Granny for wresting ect
The club needs to fight this.
You must be the guy that put $10,000 on him on Friday to win the brownlow...
#6 Mark Williams
16 Jun 2008, 18:20
I feel so bad for that guy who put 10,000 on Buddy to win the brownlow with 10:1 odds, oh he must be feeling so bad. But than again if you put your money where your mouth is, then I guess thats the way they cookie crumbles.
Woodside Hawk
16 Jun 2008, 18:20
No need to be a copy cat WH:p
What is it they say - great minds think alike?
Or is 'fools never differ'?
#6 Mark Williams
16 Jun 2008, 18:21
Dam you Quagmire you stole my post, I was probably 5 seconds after you!
sir_jaycee
16 Jun 2008, 18:26
This is not win for us, he has carry over points.
He can go for weeks on a trivial thing now, hope this doesnt happen in the finals.
I dont have any money on this at all, just thinking about the future and not about norf next week.
gibovski
16 Jun 2008, 18:31
Woo Hoo. We've got Buddy for a while. No doubt with the AFL's policy about touching other players he'll be rubbed out sooner or later.
At this rate with the reprimands coming thick and fast the Brownlow will be won by someone who runs away from contests.
philhawk
16 Jun 2008, 18:35
This is bullshit. I hate the way the superstar players get let off, whilst the rest of the comp hav...
What am I saying, it's BUDDY!
Great news.
Footbrawler
16 Jun 2008, 18:41
Woo Hoo. We've got Buddy for a while. No doubt with the AFL's policy about touching other players he'll be rubbed out sooner or later.
At this rate with the reprimands coming thick and fast the Brownlow will be won by someone who runs away from contests.
Agree 100%. What a joke.
As another poster stated it would be devastating to see him rubbed out during the finals for something trivial like wrestling. Just a terrible, terrible decision that could have huge consequences down the track.
The AFL need to get real: THIS IS A CONTACT SPORT.
Gary7Ayres
16 Jun 2008, 18:42
With all Hawthorn's reprimands and other suspensions the Hawthorn table will be nearly empty come Brownlow night.
Could you imagine.....the camera pans to Xavier Ellis and his grandmother, Jarryd Morton and 'friend', Zac Dawson and his shrink, Beau Dowler and the recruiting guy etc. etc.
I blame Osborne for the crude tackle...:p
buddy23
16 Jun 2008, 18:44
Agree 100%. What a joke.
As another poster stated it would be devastating to see him rubbed out during the finals for something trivial like wrestling. Just a terrible, terrible decision that could have huge consequences down the track.
The AFL need to get real: THIS IS A CONTACT SPORT.
Would love it if Mitchell / Franklin / Goodes or a combination of the three won it but were ineligible for soft reports.
I think I'd rather Buddy have taken the weeks and got a clean slate. You can just imagine if come finals, Buddy has points over his head how players are going to try and rile him up.
yeah the points do carry over but i dont think he will put himself in the same position again except for in a GF
I've always thought Franklin is a bit of a suspension risk just because he can be a bit clumsy when he throws his body around.
This is shocking news, nothing in it.
I want the club to contest this , even if there is a chance in losing him for a week.
We dont need him to have points hanging over his head and than lose him in a Granny for wresting ect
The club needs to fight this.
Most likely thing would be that our challenge would fail, he'd cop a week plus still have 25 points over his head so that next time he gets a minor charge of 125 points reduced to 93 like this one, he'd still cop a week.
If we take it on the chin he's still get the points hanging over him, but at least he plays now, and for small offences there is no real difference between having 25 and 90 hanging over you since it's still enough to push a reprimand in to a week off.
allaboutseptember
16 Jun 2008, 18:45
This is shocking news, nothing in it.
I want the club to contest this , even if there is a chance in losing him for a week.
We dont need him to have points hanging over his head and than lose him in a Granny for wresting ect
The club needs to fight this.
be realistic - there is no way he would get off a head high contact as it was pretty clear cut - if he contested he would prob end up with two weeks
we need to just accept it and be happy that hes running out next week
thank god for Jonathan Brown - he and Brian Taylor are spot on the money - most of these bumps we are seeing arent dangerous - award a free kick and get on with it
noosa hawk mad
16 Jun 2008, 18:50
I feel so bad for that guy who put 10,000 on Buddy to win the brownlow with 10:1 odds, oh he must be feeling so bad. But than again if you put your money where your mouth is, then I guess thats the way they cookie crumbles.Na that sucks if punters lose their coin mate with soft suspensions!
Great news on Buddy!:thumbsu:
Carn Hawkas
16 Jun 2008, 18:59
Woo good news.
Just worried about the points still hanging over his head though.
BigAl3001
16 Jun 2008, 18:59
I don't feel sorry for punters who bet on a race without the field being declared. That's the risk you take to get the juicy odds otherwise wait until after round 22 and guarantee a run for your money.
kimbopen
16 Jun 2008, 19:07
Would love it if Mitchell / Franklin / Goodes or a combination of the three won it but were ineligible for soft reports.
I think I'd rather Buddy have taken the weeks and got a clean slate. You can just imagine if come finals, Buddy has points over his head how players are going to try and rile him up.
How is this different to what happens every week?
Every match we play some scuzbucket opposition player attempts to rile Buddy. Doesn't ever seem to work very well though ... :p
starbux
16 Jun 2008, 19:07
I apologise for saying it (please keep the abuse to a minimum) but there was a little part of me excited about the prospect of Buddy having a weeks rest and being replaced by one of either Dowler or Thorp! :eek:
Thaihawk
16 Jun 2008, 19:08
Can accept 93.75 and a reprimand. I thought this meant he would still be available for the Charlie. Don't you have to have 100 or more points? Not sure, but he will still win the Coleman to go with the Last Game Win medallion.
He should appeal imo. Worst case scenario is he misses a week against an undermanned side, Hawks should beat us without Franklin. It could cost him a Brownlow and given the number of incidents they have let go it is a bit harsh stinging him for one game.
If it was Goodes a) he wouldn't have got reported and b) he would be lucky to get a harsh penalty or c) it would have got thrown out in the tribunal. Fair dinkum he got off on a strike charge because they claimed the ground surface was hard. Yeah, that has a lot to do with the elbow to the head before he hit his head on the surface getting KOed.
I think the risk is worth having a crack at a Brownlow, it doesn't matter how good you are, the opportunities don't grow on trees and he would be hot favourite.
Would love it if Mitchell / Franklin / Goodes or a combination of the three won it but were ineligible for soft reports.
I think I'd rather Buddy have taken the weeks and got a clean slate. You can just imagine if come finals, Buddy has points over his head how players are going to try and rile him up.
Soft reports..mitchells was the right decision, goodes was extremely lucky not to get alot more - he wasnt even going the ball, unlike other players who have gone under this new rule!! You honeslty calling goodes' soft?
Buddy was an interesting one, he hit a guy who had no means of protecting himself (arms pinged in a tackle, holding a ball aswell) in the face??
Do you guys know what the tribunals stupid little system ranking points were?
Take the 93.5 points, who cares!! playing next week and no doubt will respond to the adverse media again1
Can accept 93.75 and a reprimand. I thought this meant he would still be available for the Charlie. Don't you have to have 100 or more points? Not sure, but he will still win the Coleman to go with the Last Game Win medallion.
It is the points before discounting, which is 125 or something, if its over 100 then you are invalid.
RustyHawk
16 Jun 2008, 19:27
Brownlow always goes to great midfielders like Brad Hardie, Libba, Shane Woewoden (spg?)
Going to the tribunal is a near waste of time. If they are consistant they should support the MRP findings and out Buddy for the week. Might as well take the early guilty plea.
Also I'd much rather Buddy go for the Coleman and kick 100 plus in a season. In fact he might just start this weekend.. I feel another 9 goal haul coming!!
Brownie_30
16 Jun 2008, 19:31
Challenge it I don't want a clumsy arm later in the season costing us buddy in a final and he seems prone to that, as previously mentioned. THey should especially challenge if Crawf, Guerra and Croad come back
Worst case scenario he has a weeks break to rest a bit.
Dannerz
16 Jun 2008, 19:43
Challenge it I don't want a clumsy arm later in the season costing us buddy in a final and he seems prone to that, as previously mentioned. THey should especially challenge if Crawf, Guerra and Croad come back
Worst case scenario he has a weeks break to rest a bit.
When has he ever been reported before for a stray arm?
Buddy the Brave
16 Jun 2008, 19:43
A week without Buddy would have done us a world of good. We are starting to look for him too much now. Some of the passes directed to him on Saturday were bordering on the ridiculous, some players have stopped having shots for goal from inside 50 and trying to pass it off to Buddy.
He is so big and imposing he just demands the ball but he is not always the best option, a week without him would have made the team look for alternative avenues to goal.
Brownie_30
16 Jun 2008, 19:49
When has he ever been reported before for a stray arm?
Never but his don't argue goes close
If you challenge, and fail and get reported 5 weeks later.
Will you still have an existing bad record and have carry over points? :confused:
buddyhawks23
16 Jun 2008, 20:01
buddy should contetst,
if we loose it, he gets a week , and give thorp or dowler a chance to stand up , and it will also give him a clean slate so it wont backfire in the finals
thne if we won it everyones smiling
#6 Mark Williams
16 Jun 2008, 20:04
I'm not fussed Mitchell and Franklin got reprimanded even though they are ineligible for the Brownlow, its pretty obvious Yablet is going to win it anyway.
Brownie_30
16 Jun 2008, 20:09
If you challenge, and fail and get reported 5 weeks later.
Will you still have an existing bad record and have carry over points? :confused:
Yes but instead of certain suspension (93.75 carry over points), he will have 25 carry over points which would mean he could get off a low grade striking(I think), high contact or tripping charge if he pleaded guilty.
If you challenge, and fail and get reported 5 weeks later.
Will you still have an existing bad record and have carry over points? :confused:
If he was to challenge and fail he would be suspended for 1 match, have 25 points carry over for one year and have a 10% loading for points in the next 3 years.
So if he was to get a 5 week suspension later in the season (500 points, he would get another 25+ 50 = 75 points or 77.5 depending on when they load. So he would still get 5 weeks plus have 77.5 carry over. If he was over 525 then it would be at risk of having it moved up to 6 weeks.
This is Buddy's 4th year? Not far off having a good record for tribunal purposes. He will lose all that good behaviour time if he takes the plea. Taking a guilty plea that has carry over points vetos the 4 years of spotless service.
Hawka_de_Haven
16 Jun 2008, 21:32
Very stiff with the reprimand.
In watching the incident on replay about 23 times I am convinced that the Crows player starts feigning the hit even before minor contact is made. Doughty throws his head back when he sees contact coming to play for the free kick. He did it at least one other time when Micheal Osborne clips him with an open palm on the side of the face, Doughty falls back as if he was hit by a bus. The hawks were coming hard in the last 5 min of the last Qrt so it was clearly a tactic to regain possession and stem the tide.
Doughty should be reported for bringing the head high rules of the game into disrepute.
Hodgepodge
16 Jun 2008, 21:36
i've noticed over the years that he always has a bad game the week after kicking a bag, with the exception of last year's semi-final where he kicked 3.3 . . . that wasn't too bad. But this year when he's kicked 8 or 9, he's kicked 1 the following week. Also last year when he kicked 9, he didn't kick many for a few games afterwards. Thoughts?
phillm1
16 Jun 2008, 21:59
be realistic - there is no way he would get off a head high contact as it was pretty clear cut - if he contested he would prob end up with two weeks
we need to just accept it and be happy that hes running out next week
thank god for Jonathan Brown - he and Brian Taylor are spot on the money - most of these bumps we are seeing arent dangerous - award a free kick and get on with it
Agree with you, but there is slight chance like travis cloke now knows of being suspended now for any stupid act, but there is no way he wouldve got of completely anyway
macdaddio
16 Jun 2008, 22:19
buddy should contetst,
if we loose it, he gets a week , and give thorp or dowler a chance to stand up , and it will also give him a clean slate so it wont backfire in the finals
thne if we won it everyones smiling
Buddy is vital to us winning on saturday and every other game we play those who say he should contest remember what happened to mgylnn..
SweetLeftFoot
16 Jun 2008, 22:31
This is excellent news as you guys would just have used his absence as an excuse when we beat you on Saturday. Now our victory will be all the sweeter ... (he says, almost believing his own crap)
Hawka_de_Haven
16 Jun 2008, 22:37
He should appeal imo. Worst case scenario is he misses a week against an undermanned side, Hawks should beat us without Franklin. It could cost him a Brownlow and given the number of incidents they have let go it is a bit harsh stinging him for one game.
If it was Goodes a) he wouldn't have got reported and b) he would be lucky to get a harsh penalty or c) it would have got thrown out in the tribunal. Fair dinkum he got off on a strike charge because they claimed the ground surface was hard. Yeah, that has a lot to do with the elbow to the head before he hit his head on the surface getting KOed.
I think the risk is worth having a crack at a Brownlow, it doesn't matter how good you are, the opportunities don't grow on trees and he would be hot favourite.
Sound Logic, but something tells me Buddy is no 'flash in the pan'. Opportunities for individual honours will come a plenty in a very long and decorated career. This is as long as a D. Brereton stays away from his ear.
Roger Rogerson
16 Jun 2008, 23:18
Definately challenge. If you dont ask the question you will never know.
Worst case is a week off which will give us a look at how much we have improved without Buddy. Maybe a good chance for Boyle to see some leather.
Hawk-in-syd
17 Jun 2008, 00:45
Definately challenge. If you dont ask the question you will never know.
Worst case is a week off which will give us a look at how much we have improved without Buddy. Maybe a good chance for Boyle to see some leather.
Could be worth a challenge. As you said worst case he gets a week. Boyle gets the ball kicked to him against an under strength north. If he kicks a few we have all the forwards firing.
I have a feeling we might need him this week though. If north don't come breathing fire I'll be very surprised
kirbatron
17 Jun 2008, 11:02
With all Hawthorn's reprimands and other suspensions the Hawthorn table will be nearly empty come Brownlow night.
Could you imagine.....the camera pans to Xavier Ellis and his grandmother, Jarryd Morton and 'friend', Zac Dawson and his shrink, Beau Dowler and the recruiting guy etc. etc.
I blame Osborne for the crude tackle...:p
Haha good stuff.
P.s Go the Celtics!
Gary Shadforth
17 Jun 2008, 11:20
Would love it if Mitchell / Franklin / Goodes or a combination of the three won it but were ineligible for soft reports.
I think I'd rather Buddy have taken the weeks and got a clean slate. You can just imagine if come finals, Buddy has points over his head how players are going to try and rile him up.
Mrs Walls, Mrs Sheehan and Mr Healy on the TV show, 'The Couch' were all in agreement that there should be a review on the reporting of soft contact..
Okay, Buddy's contact was to the head but it wasn't intentional, nothing but a slight impact, that of a glove being struck across one's face when being challenged to a duel at dawn the next day.
So, if there is a review it will be too late for Buddy who will miss out on a Charlie for such a soft contact. Yes, I emphasize the worfd SOFT.
The modern day rule-makers have turned our game into ladies netball. Jack Dyer and Mopsy Fraser will be turning in their graves. Hell! Where do they think our 'Delicate' Des Dickson got his nick-name from?
Leather Poisoning
17 Jun 2008, 11:28
Mrs Walls, Mrs Sheehan and Mr Healy on the TV show, 'The Couch' were all in agreement that there should be a review on the reporting of soft contact..
Okay, Buddy's contact was to the head but it wasn't intentional, nothing but a slight impact, that of a glove being struck across one's face when being challenged to a duel at dawn the next day.
So, if there is a review it will be too late for Buddy who will miss out on a Charlie for such a soft contact. Yes, I emphasize the worfd SOFT.
The modern day rule-makers have turned our game into ladies netball. Jack Dyer and Mopsy Fraser will be turning in their graves. Hell! Where do they think our 'Delicate' Des Dickson got his nick-name from?
Buddy is the first bloke who has been booked for this and hasn't run PAST the ball to make contact.
For me that makes it a completely different issue.
IMO reportable...no free kick...yes?If afl are saying all head contact is reportable why do we see players coming off each week under blood rule ,usually head face region yet most dont result in reports,its getting confusing,
My Man Croad
17 Jun 2008, 12:46
A JOKE!!!
I have learn't a lesson I will never bet on a brownlow again.
The AFL have just lost it. What a wonderful viewing spectacle the Brownlow night is going to be!!!
bungholes_premiers
17 Jun 2008, 12:52
this is the type of thing that if continues to go too far, will see the death of our great game