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Eagle Ant

18 Jun 2008, 02:27

Its a hard one. Do you bring in youth or play older less skilled players due to experiance, Do you go on match ups or on form of the player.
This would be my team.

FB: Beau Waters, Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Andrew Embley, Adam Hunter, Adam Selwood

C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert

HF: Mitch Brown, Josh Kennedy, Shannon Hurn

FF: Ben McKinley, Ash Hansen, Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Chris Masten

INT: Quinten Lynch, Sam Butler, Jamie MacNamara, Beau Wilkes.

EMG: Ryan Davis, Mathew Spangher, Tim Houlihan.

Thats how I would love to see it.

Prem87

18 Jun 2008, 02:59

I really like that team. My only changes would be Stenglien for MacNamara & Nicoski for Wilkes (depending on matchups). We could be too top heavy with Hansen in the forward line as well so he could potentially be dropped. Would be interesting to see how 3 talls in Brown, Kennedy & Hansen work together.

Add Rich into that team as well :)

Kerrby04

18 Jun 2008, 06:10

you still rekn hunter is capable enough to hold down CHB? good luck to him to wear buddy, roo, brown, lucas, cloke, hall, richo. yeh pretty much every premier CHF

you still rekn hansen is able to remould himself as a FF? hes played CHF hes whole career, what makes you think hell be an effective FF let alone a premier FF. your better off playing lynch in that position.

you dont rate stenglein? hes an automatic selection, dont be stupid

the key here is where do you play SELWOOD, HURN, WATERS?

waters kicking is unrealiable at times, especially rebounding 50. is he sticky enough to mind his player?

swap waters <-> hurn

selwood isnt able to be use fully effective as hes always given the no1 stopping/def job. he is more capable of providing more, whether if its in the middle or forward flank

groga

18 Jun 2008, 06:20

Scott selwood will be in our top 22...mark it down

Kerrby04

18 Jun 2008, 06:22

FB: Shannon Hurn, Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Andrew Embley, Beau Wilkes, Tyson Stenglein

C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert

HF: Adam Selwood, Josh Kennedy, Beau Waters

FF: Ben McKinley, Adam Hunter, Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Chris Masten

INT: Quinten Lynch, Sam Butler, Jamie MacNamara, Mark Nicoski.

EMG: Ryan Davis, Mitch Brown, Will Schofield.
.

thats my team to crack round 1 09

assuming braun/wirra retirements

personally, id like to fit brown somewhere in the team and im still iffy about jmac.

Kerrby04

18 Jun 2008, 06:28

Scott selwood will be in our top 22...mark it down

scooter at INT? i like it :thumbsu:

eagledream

18 Jun 2008, 10:55

to the op, who the hell is Jamie Kennedy? I assume you're refering to Josh but dude, call yourself a fan and don't even know one of our most promising players names...

sydney eagle

18 Jun 2008, 11:25

"Jaimie Kennedy" is a hybrid cross between Josh Kennedy and Jaymie Graham; recently created in the laboratories of Dr Frankenwoosha beneath the grandstand at Subiaco !;)

Lynch takes a mark

18 Jun 2008, 12:01

FB: Shannon Hurn, Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Andrew Embley, Beau Wilkes, Will Schofield

C: Tim Houlihan, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert

HF: Adam Selwood, Josh Kennedy, Beau Waters

FF: Ben McKinley, Adam Hunter, Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Chris Masten

INT: Quinten Lynch, Sam Butler, Jamie MacNamara, Mark Nicoski.

EMG: Ryan Davis, Mitch Brown, Scott Selwood

PsyDuck

18 Jun 2008, 14:18

How can you not have Stenglein in our 09 team? He is one of our most consistent performers. Also Hansen can't play Full Forward he is better when he works up the ground and marks around the middle. They need to play Hansen and Josh Kennedy both around CHF but have Hansen push up the ground and Kennedy start from about 30m out. Then play a Mckinley/Le Cras type out of the goal square.

Lyyynnnchy

18 Jun 2008, 14:26

FB: Shannon Hurn, Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Adam Hunter, Beau Wilkes/Hurley ;), Beau Waters

C: Andrew Embley, Matt Priddis, Adam Selwood

HF: Quinten Lynch, Josh Kennedy, Brad Ebert

FF: Ben McKinley, TONY NOTTE, Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Sam Butler

INT: Stinger, Chris Masten, Mitch brown, Mark Nicoski.

EMG: Houlihan, J Mac, Scott Selwood

Scotland

18 Jun 2008, 14:27

B: Wirrpanda Glass Waters
HB: B Jones Hunter A Selwood
C: Braun Judd Embley
HF: Cousins Hansen R Jones
F: Armstrong Lynch Chick
Foll: Cox Kerr Stenglein
IC: Seaby Butler Banfield Fletcher

Xsess

18 Jun 2008, 14:50

B DHart Glass Wirra
HB Worsfold Jakovich McKenna
C PMatera Judd Kemp
HF Cousins Glendinning Lewis
FF PMatera Sumich Heady
Foll Cox Kerr Mainy
IC Keene Evans Wilson Pyke

kane249

18 Jun 2008, 15:08

B DHart Glass Wirra
HB Worsfold Jakovich McKenna
C PMatera Judd Kemp
HF Cousins Glendinning Lewis
FF PMatera Sumich Heady
Foll Cox Kerr Mainy
IC Keene Evans Wilson Pyke

The funny thing is, the average age of our playing list would still be below Fremantle's

Crimson King

18 Jun 2008, 16:36

FB: Beau Wilkes, Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Andrew Embley, Mitch Brown, Will Schofield

C: Tim Houlihan, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert

HF: Adam Selwood, Josh Kennedy, Beau Waters

FF: Ben McKinley, Adam Hunter, Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Chris Masten

INT: Quinten Lynch, Sam Butler, Shannon Hurn, Daniel Rich.

EMG: Ryan Davis, Jamie McNamara, Scott Selwood

A few tweaks to yours LTAM.:thumbsu:

kane249

18 Jun 2008, 17:05

Crimson King

18 Jun 2008, 17:18

Woops.:o

Okay I will take out young Timmy Houlihan and insert Stinga in there.:)

WCE57

18 Jun 2008, 17:28

dogeatdog

18 Jun 2008, 17:39

you would think that one of Nicknat, rich or yarran would be on our list with our position on the ladder this year. that player should come into the best 22 at some stage in 09

Lyyynnnchy

18 Jun 2008, 17:47

Not sure why eveyrone has Lynch on there bench?

I think by the end of the year he will be our 2nd or 3rd most important player

worsfold

18 Jun 2008, 19:40

Crimson King

18 Jun 2008, 19:50

Guessing by these team lists, it almost certain that Hansen, Staker, Fletch, Seaby and Stenglein will all be lining up in round 1 :D

And on Stenglein, I'm not quite convince that its a good idea to leave out the guy who leads our tackle count and can at least defend, we are going to leave it to Masten and co. And yes, I know that his disposal is crap. But so is Waters and he has been listed. But anyway, it doesn't surprise me, his omission judging by recent discussion here.

What does surprise me is that Staker seems all but forgotten. What are we going to do with him? And has Issy seen this thread ;)

They will get games, but I dont think they will be getting 22 games from next year onwards, Staker, Hansen and Seaby that is. Fletcher will probably retire or something. Or will be back up at best, Stinga will play all of the games.

As for Lynch on the bench its got to do with the team balance. Now probably Waters will be on the bench and Lynch will start as a roving HFF. But you gotta admit that team looks superb and its without a genuine crumber.:cool:

bigburger

18 Jun 2008, 20:26

FB: Will Schofield, Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Andrew Embley, Mitch Brown, Beau Waters

C: Tyson Stenglien, Matt Priddis, Adam Selwood

HF: David Wirrpanda, Josh Kennedy, Brad Ebert

FF: Ben McKinley, Adam Hunter, Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Chris Masten

INT: Sam Butler, Jamie MacNamara, Shannon Hurn, Quinten Lynch

This is extremely difficult but the way i see it theres 3 categories the players are seperated into.

Players whose stocks are expected to rise: Masten, Ebert, Kennedy, McKinley, LeCras, Butler, JMac, Hurn, Priddis, Brown, Shofield, S. Selwood, Davis, Wilkes and all the other youngsters

Players who have plateaued: Cox, Kerr, Lynch, Staker, Selwood, Stinger, Glass, Jones, Embley, Rosa, Waters and a few others

Players whose stocks are falling: Hansen, Wirra, Nico, Braun, Graham, Army, C. Jones etc.

Now the hardest part is to decide whether the improvement in the younger players is better than drawing out the careers of the players who aren't as good as they have been. Also this is the same for the players who have plateaued that aren't in the top 10 to 15 in the club like Staker, Rosa and whatnot. I guess we will have to see.

WCE57

18 Jun 2008, 20:29

They will get games, but I dont think they will be getting 22 games from next year onwards, Staker, Hansen and Seaby that is. Fletcher will probably retire or something. Or will be back up at best, Stinga will play all of the games.

As for Lynch on the bench its got to do with the team balance. Now probably Waters will be on the bench and Lynch will start as a roving HFF. But you gotta admit that team looks superb and its without a genuine crumber.:cool:

Yes, I admit it the side does look very good. I am still amazed at the situation with Staker, where is he heading?

eagles06

18 Jun 2008, 22:11

http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/jj204/matt3192/eagles09.jpg

That team is looking fantastic. I am asuming Fletcher and Braun have retired or whatever and Wirra is in his final year as he is in brilliant form this year, and from the sidelines he's looking pretty good with the body coping. The bunch of players not in that side is very impressive and hopefully if we can secure Brown he can get his big frame at CHB like his brother and do something for us there.
I've got Lynchy off the bench there playing 2nd fiddle to Coxy with Hunter at FF which i like. This side looks to have a lot more run which i like and young talent. Although we'll probably need to take out up to 5 players with injuries:thumbsd:
Stinger in the back pocket i like with him not being too pacy but he could still play in the middle.

Eagle Ant

19 Jun 2008, 02:32

[quote=Kerrby04;11416299]you still rekn hunter is capable enough to hold down CHB? good luck to him to wear buddy, roo, brown, lucas, cloke, hall, richo. yeh pretty much every premier CHF

you still rekn hansen is able to remould himself as a FF? hes played CHF hes whole career, what makes you think hell be an effective FF let alone a premier FF. your better off playing lynch in that position.

you dont rate stenglein? hes an automatic selection, dont be stupid

the key here is where do you play SELWOOD, HURN, WATERS?

waters kicking is unrealiable at times, especially rebounding 50. is he sticky enough to mind his player?

Kerrby I wouldnt have put these players in the positions if I didnt think they could do the job! Oh and the whole hunter verses Premier Forwards you will very rarely ever see Hunter 1 out against a forward in there forward line! generally he drags them away from goal.

I do rate stinger! but he is to slow to be in this 22 I would have him as a support player at best. Stinger has been beaten by his direct opponant the last 4 weeks and he is always under pressure cause he gets caught to quickly because of his lack of speed.

I think the only way he would be in my starting 22 is he played the same role as Goodwin from the crows and thats out of the forward pocket!
Thats not stupid its just my opinion!
Oh and hansen is being primed as a F/F by the Eagles! So obviously thats were they see him playing for the next 3 years of that brand new contract he just signed.
Selwood on the ball as No1 Tagger, Hurn off H/F with that huge Kick, Waters in the Back Pocket were he can throw his body on the line and do some damage!
And last but not least this is my team I asked for your team not your opinion on how wrong my team looks, You pick your team Cool.
This Thread is so in round 1 next year I can come back here and see how close we actually were. Thats It

Eagle Ant

19 Jun 2008, 02:34

you would think that one of Nicknat, rich or yarran would be on our list with our position on the ladder this year. that player should come into the best 22 at some stage in 09
Probably at some stage they would play but not in round 1 and thats really all you can work on!:thumbsu:

Masten2McKinley

19 Jun 2008, 02:49

FB: Beau Waters, Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Andrew Embley, Beau Wilkes, Adam Selwood

C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Brad Ebert

HF: Mitch Brown, Josh Kennedy, Shannon Hurn

FF: Ben McKinley, Adam Hunter, Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Chris Masten

INT: Quinten Lynch, Sam Butler, Tyson Stenglien,Ryan Davis .

EMG: *Rich*, Mathew Spangher, Tim Houlihan

fletch braun and wirra have retired if not wirra comes in but cant see the ova 2 in there anyway

EagleMan87

19 Jun 2008, 02:59

FB: Bones, Glass, Selwood
HB: Brown, Wilkes, Nicoski
C: Rosa, Priddis, Braun
HF: LeCras, Kennedy, Lynch
FF: McKinley, Hunter, Ebert

RR: Cox, Kerr, Stenglein

INT: Davis, Masten, Schofield, Wirrapanda

EMG: Spangher, (Pick whatever), Staker

Eagle Ant

19 Jun 2008, 03:43

to the op, who the hell is Jamie Kennedy? I assume you're refering to Josh but dude, call yourself a fan and don't even know one of our most promising players names...
I actualy wrote Jamie McNamara and then realised that I had put his name in the HF slot and erased McNamara and put Kennedy without thinking :p

By the way Jamie Kennedy is a comedian for america, the bloke off SCREAM! the Nerd that sprouts all the rules to serviving a horror Movie.:D

Selgae

19 Jun 2008, 16:06

eagles06

19 Jun 2008, 18:42

I love it how after just a couple of games of injured footy Hunter is now most ppl preferred FF.

Junior career at FF, Few years of swinging and now 2 games at FF and he is our FF.

Imagine if Staker kicked 4 or Hansen kicked 4 at FF this week then they would be FF...

For me I would like to trade to him and a pick for one medium sized Yarran...

I myself am not sure who to go with at FF. Hunter offers a bit with his strong marking but I rekon he could still be a lot of use in the backline on a thinrd tall with hopefully Mitch Brown and Glass taking other tall forwards. However with Wilkes doing a solid job atm I rekon he could be a good 3rd tall also. Lots of options

Staker really has been very inconsistent. Don't have a clue what should be done with him, possible trade bait?
And as for Hansen I think it will take a few very good game for him to win the fans back.

Cuzz09

19 Jun 2008, 18:44

A winning team :thumbsu:

bunsen burner

19 Jun 2008, 22:41

FB: Beau Waters, Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Adam Selwood, Adam Hunter, Mathew Spangher

C: Matt Rosa, Matt Priddis, Shannon Hurn

HF: Andrew Embley, Josh Kennedy, Brad Ebert,

FF: Mitch Brown, Ben McKinley, Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Chris Masten

INT: Quentin, Sam Butler, Jamie MacNamara, Tim Houlihan.

Noticeable omissions: Hansen, Stenglein, Fletcher, Braun, Wirra

eagles rule

19 Jun 2008, 23:48

FB:,Beau Wilkes Darren Glass, Brett Jones

HB: Tyson Stenglien Adam Hunter Andrew Embley,

C: Matt Rosa Sam Butler Will Schofield

HF: Beau Waters Josh Kennedy Brad Ebert,

FF: Shannon Hurn Ben McKinley Mark Lecras

RR: Dean Cox, Daniel Kerr, Adam Selwood

INT: Mitch Brown Matt Priddis Chris Masten Quentin Lynch

Embley at HBF a bit loose but can get into the game and give attacking penetration.

Schofield to the wing to take advantage of his running and endurance 6ft+ wingmen a must so Rosa also.

Waters forward to defend and lock the ball in and soften up the defenders.

Kerrby04

20 Jun 2008, 03:04

Kerrby I wouldnt have put these players in the positions if I didnt think they could do the job! Oh and the whole hunter verses Premier Forwards you will very rarely ever see Hunter 1 out against a forward in there forward line! generally he drags them away from goal.

that doesnt mean he gets the job done, letting premier CHF dictate the forward structure is what you call "doom"

I do rate stinger! but he is to slow to be in this 22 I would have him as a support player at best. Stinger has been beaten by his direct opponant the last 4 weeks and he is always under pressure cause he gets caught to quickly because of his lack of speed.

you rate stinger by not naming him at all? not even in the emergency? you talk alot of rubbish. hes passed weeks have been blown out of porportion bc of the floggins we've had and our high expectations of the position he plays. stinger wasnt faster when playing along with judd/cousins. hes a defending footballer.

I think the only way he would be in my starting 22 is he played the same role as Goodwin from the crows and thats out of the forward pocket!
Thats not stupid its just my opinion!

he may have a straight kick, but he does not possess the leading attributes. you'd be surprise what he can do at half back flank

Oh and hansen is being primed as a F/F by the Eagles! So obviously thats were they see him playing for the next 3 years of that brand new contract he just signed.

like i said, waste of time and money to invest somthing that gives no return. like you and selgae, your the only ones who think hansen is still a chance. you bring in kennedy (who everyone flogged as a hack in the judd deal) who plays 3 games at CHF and is already our no1 prefered CHF. you think by moving a player who has played hes whole life as a leading foward will eventually learn how to play FF. it doesnt happen that way buddy.

Selwood on the ball as No1 Tagger, Hurn off H/F with that huge Kick, Waters in the Back Pocket were he can throw his body on the line and do some damage!

this what confuses alot of people, like you need to be a quality player to be a No1 stopper/tagger. its rubbish. any player can mind a player. what makes you think brett jones or shannon hurn cant wear there players like a b!tch?

i dont mind hurn at HF but i believed he is more capable of minding his player in def.

just bc waters is courageous doesnt mean he throws his body on the line week in week out. when was the last time he did? you believe hes the next archer? waters isnt sticky enough to mind players, let him do his own business and attack the ball meaning he should be somewhere in the forward line.

And last but not least this is my team I asked for your team not your opinion on how wrong my team looks, You pick your team Cool.
This Thread is so in round 1 next year I can come back here and see how close we actually were. Thats It

yeh you can have your opinion, but i doubt the players you've mention will play in that position, will even play at all, or players that you havent mention will play.

cool bananas?

Kerrby04

20 Jun 2008, 03:09

I love it how after just a couple of games of injured footy Hunter is now most ppl preferred FF.

Junior career at FF, Few years of swinging and now 2 games at FF and he is our FF.

Imagine if Staker kicked 4 or Hansen kicked 4 at FF this week then they would be FF...

For me I would like to trade to him and a pick for one medium sized Yarran...

yeh and who do you prefer?

lynch? staker? your favourite giant milk bottle?

imagine if? thats really optimistic.. why dont you imagine if lynch kicked 4 then we wont have the dillema of choosing our FF. like i said, we dont have a genuine FF. hunter is close to it.

i wouldnt mind trading hunter, but for yarran you most likely need a first rounder - wont happen buddy, maybe a late 20/30 pick.

Kerrby04

20 Jun 2008, 03:11

I myself am not sure who to go with at FF. Hunter offers a bit with his strong marking but I rekon he could still be a lot of use in the backline on a thinrd tall with hopefully Mitch Brown and Glass taking other tall forwards. However with Wilkes doing a solid job atm I rekon he could be a good 3rd tall also. Lots of options

Staker really has been very inconsistent. Don't have a clue what should be done with him, possible trade bait?
And as for Hansen I think it will take a few very good game for him to win the fans back.

if wilkes take 3rd tall, then hunter is not needed in def.

i like wilkes, reminds me of a taller bjones

Eagle Ant

20 Jun 2008, 03:41

Kerrby

Hunter played his junior and WAFL career as a forward Yet he was taught to play as a Defender.

Ben Mckinley played all of his junior career as a midfielder but in the last year prior to getting drafted he was placed as a forward and kicked 4 goals so the coach left him there.

Wirrapanda had played his whole carreer as a small forward and was drafted as 1 but as we didnt have a spot at the time for him there Malthouse sent him into defence.

Thats only 3 examples of a player starting off his career as 1 thing and being swapped to another. IT HAPPENS The word its called is "versitile"
So Hansen could play as a FF. There is no reason he cant hell he could play as a midfielder as he did for swan districts on the week end or swing back into defence. This year we might as well see what the Older players can do and see if they are worth keeping or tradeing.
But by going on your theory they cant play anywere that they wern't drafted as thats what there meant to be. Problem then

Spangher: Wingmen -training as a back/ Forward
Schofield: Wing/Midfield- Training as a rebounding defender.
Davis: Played soccer so we shouldn't have drafted him, Wrong ball.
Nicoski: Midfielder
Lynch: Ruck/Defender
and even McIntosh played and was drafted as a FULL FORWARD.

So you saying that because he has played as a CHF all his career he cant play FF means Jack SHIT! It just means that this old dog has to learn a new trick :p

Selgae

20 Jun 2008, 10:50

yeh and who do you prefer?

lynch? staker? your favourite giant milk bottle?

imagine if? thats really optimistic.. why dont you imagine if lynch kicked 4 then we wont have the dillema of choosing our FF. like i said, we dont have a genuine FF. hunter is close to it.

i wouldnt mind trading hunter, but for yarran you most likely need a first rounder - wont happen buddy, maybe a late 20/30 pick.

Yeah I would prefer Hansen at FF, most people have Hunter as they're preffered after 2 games... BF posters jump on and jump off like they just found the womans got a disease...

As for Yarran, if you read my post I said a pick and Hunter... May still not be enough he would need to be out of the top 10.