Team vs Kangas [Archive]

CHBench

26 Jun 2008, 18:25

Look2Me4Guidance

26 Jun 2008, 18:35

Is this your opinion or the actual team?

CHBench

26 Jun 2008, 18:39

Actual team, Saintsational saying Allen is out. Kangaroos board saying Geary.

TassieSaint

26 Jun 2008, 18:41

____ not Lenny :(

beejay

26 Jun 2008, 18:41

well those changes seem quite necessary/ok would of been good to get another game into mcevoy but you cant keep kosi out if fit and no room i hope its geary and not allen i liked the way allen presented last week and prob will add more spark then charlie gardiner will in the long run. def give him another game lets hope milney and dal show that they deserve the recall!

makemytime

26 Jun 2008, 18:44

huh? waddya mean? damn... kosi will have to be a ruckman for the game then

SaintsSeptember

26 Jun 2008, 18:45

Whats wrong with Birss? Not even emergency!!

TassieSaint

26 Jun 2008, 18:50

Whats wrong with Birss? Not even emergency!!
Birss >>> Dempster, McQualter, Blake and Eddy as tagging options

Also I for one would have preferred Big Ben to get some gametime ahead of Charlie Gardiner.

CHBench

26 Jun 2008, 18:52

Rapt that Allen is still in :thumbsu:

Could we possibly see Roo play a Richo role and Allen & Kosi as the main targets?

For the Roos

In: Power
Out: Lower

SaintsSeptember

26 Jun 2008, 19:02

Birss >>> Dempster, McQualter, Blake and Eddy as tagging options

Also I for one would have preferred Big Ben to get some gametime ahead of Charlie Gardiner.
Yes , I would have rated Birss ahead of Dempster and McQualter.
I hope we don't have to replace one of the taggers with an emergency!:confused:
I would have liked to see McEvoy have another go at ruck against an easier opponent. ( You could call him Big Mac instead of Big Ben , but McDonalds would sue ).

Anyway the team seems OK if they spark up as much as last week.
I wonder if they will actually play as listed.
Armitage starting forward could be interesting.
Fisher and Goddard can provide plenty of run out of the back.
Lenny out is a worry but if Dal sparks up the way we are expecting him to it could be OK.

HoldenMCaulfield

26 Jun 2008, 20:28

I'm a bit disappointed about McEvoy as emergency only, especially if he'll play as a forward for Casey (named as a forward - Haretuku has been selected along with Rix).

I guess that Milne, despite his known problems away from Melbourne, deserves his spot after his performance for Casey last week, but I would have kept McEvoy in there for Gilbert (who started as a forward last week and appears to lack fitness).

I read somewhere that Lyon has hinted that Koschitzke could play in the backline (when not busy as the backup ruckman for King - unless Blake will ruck again), hence leaving another spot in the forward line for McEvoy, provided that Riewoldt plays a similar role as last week (Allen can also play in the backline if required).

He may have lost every contest in the ruck last week (but that was against the Freo giants !) - will the decision to not play him for the Saints despite M Gardiner still being out and to apparently play him as a forward for Casey mean that we've given up for him to develop into a quality ruckman ?

Fehring

26 Jun 2008, 20:39

NORTH MELBOURNE v ST KILDA
St Kilda
B: Sean Dempster, Max Hudghton, Jason Gram
HB: Brendon Goddard, Sam Gilbert, Sam Fisher
C: Andrew McQualter, Nick Dal Santo, Robert Eddy
HF: Robert Harvey, Nick Riewoldt, Charlie Gardiner
F: Clint Jones, Justin Koschitzke, David Armitage
Foll: Steven King, Luke Ball, Leigh Montagna
I/C: James Gwilt, Jason Blake, Stephen Milne, Jarryd Allen
EMG: Jarryn Geary, Aaron Fiora, Ben McEvoy

In: Dal Santo, Milne, Koschitzke
Out: Lenny Hayes (hamstring), Ben McEvoy, Jarryn Geary

I think they're excellent ins and outs. In reality, McEvoy needed to be dropped and will probably cool his heels at Casey for the rest of the year. He was great around the ground, but not a single tap out is pretty damning. Can you imagine the posts on this board if Rix did that?

Nevertheless, I think he'll live up to the hype in the end, McEvoy. It was an extremely promising debut.

TassieSaint

26 Jun 2008, 20:40

He may have lost every contest in the ruck last week (but that was against the Freo giants !) - will the decision to not play him for the Saints despite M Gardiner still being out and to apparently play him as a forward for Casey mean that we've given up for him to develop into a quality ruckman ?
Wait what? Why would we give up on a first year, top ten draft pick becoming a ruckman just because he was beaten the the leagues best tap ruckman? Rucks take a long time to develop, I wouldn't read anything at all into his omission.

HoldenMCaulfield

26 Jun 2008, 20:47

I sure hope you're right.

Koschitzke (and to a lesser extent also Riewoldt) were both drafted as potential ruckmen - but we didn't stick to that position for long and you don't really want to see either rucking these days...

Let's see where he'll actually play for Casey. And then again, we may see another late change on Saturday.

Kildonan

26 Jun 2008, 20:52

I think Kosi and Roo were recruited purely as KPP.
Both were around 193 cm when recruited, just that Kosi kept growing.

HoldenMCaulfield

26 Jun 2008, 21:12

fair enough - I will not argue on this one

(just a bit disappointed that McEvoy does not get another chance)

Dandays

26 Jun 2008, 21:46

Yeah Im happy with the ins and outs should be a good game
i think we will go good on the gold coast Gibert,Roo back home
should count for something theres a fair few supporters up here
to cheer em on to ill be there cant wait!

ChrisFooty

26 Jun 2008, 22:57

Happy with the team. Except Gilbert does not warrant selection on current form and fitness. Should be with Casey. How does Fiora keep getting into the emercengies? VFL form was not great.

Fehring

26 Jun 2008, 23:09

Happy with the team. Except Gilbert does not warrant selection on current form and fitness. Should be with Casey. How does Fiora keep getting into the emercengies? VFL form was not great.

I don't mean to diss Fiora but he's a bit like Yze - a barometer of the team's performance, rather than a driver of it. If we had a second half of the season like last year (please, please, please) and started playing good footy, I reckon Lyon would be intersted in slotting him back in. Goes well when we're going well.

Nothingman11

27 Jun 2008, 00:16

any word on Ferguson? injury update says he should be availiable by this week?
he playing for Casey this week?

would like to see him get another go up forward

sainter

27 Jun 2008, 03:36

Well it looks like we're making another statement but it's a completely different one this time round. Last week we gave the young blokes a chance, this time we're bringing back the big guns for what really is a do or die game if we see ourselves as a finals contender.

Like most people I would have liked to have seen McEvoy get another game. I realise he was comprehensively beaten around the ground but he won't come across an opponent of that size again this season. Still, he's had a taste of league footy and he'll hopefully go back to Casey determined to win his place back.

Gilbert's probably lucky to have kept his spot but the trip back home to the Gold Coast will hopefully do him some good. Geary could do with a run in the VFL and unfortunately Hayes is a massive loss. You just don't see many individual performances better than his first quarter last week and we'll greatly miss presence around the ground. I'd have played Birss too, thought he and Dempster would have been good match-ups for Thomas and Campbell but not to be.

Squizzy1970

27 Jun 2008, 09:54

Difficult week at selection. Is one week enough for Dal and Milne? Can Kosi fill a ruck void? Did Gilbo need a rest (or is Sainter right)? Could Lenny be risked? Macca instead of Chucky? Birss had 32 poss, but not good enough (too slow to play on Harvey/Campbell/Thomas)?

I note Fergie is back (named with Casey), but none of the other guys (Schneider, Baker etc).

Geez I hope Milney pulls the finger out for a change (interstate). Don't know whether they have anyone to go with him if he is "up".

The Punter

27 Jun 2008, 10:30

Out of the three debutants last week, McEvoy was the least impressive, and with the Kangaroos playing a part-time ruckman in Petrie, the selectors obviously think that Kosi and Blake will suffice. Good to see Allen get another game, and the ins are fine with me, although I would have probably left Milne at home for reasons well known to all.

Squizzy1970

27 Jun 2008, 10:36

I looked back at your predicted team Punter (on the other thread). Not that far off. Milne is fortunate to come in and Chucky seems lucky to stay in. Hopefully both will repay the faith.

Vaul Darkhour

27 Jun 2008, 11:24

good ins.. when is xavier back?!

Half Back Pocket

27 Jun 2008, 11:57

NORTH MELBOURNE v ST KILDA
St Kilda
B: Sean Dempster, Max Hudghton, Jason Gram
HB: James Gwilt, Jason Blake, Sam Fisher
C: Andrew McQualter, Nick Dal Santo, Robert Eddy
HF: Robert Harvey, Nick Riewoldt, Clint Jones
F: Brendon Goddard, Jarryd Allen, David Armitage
Foll: Steven King, Luke Ball, Leigh Montagna
I/C: Justin Koschitzke, Stephen Milne, Charlie Gardiner, Sam Gilbert
EMG: Jarryn Geary, Aaron Fiora, Ben McEvoy

An alternative line-up?

SaintsSeptember

27 Jun 2008, 12:21

huh? waddya mean? damn... kosi will have to be a ruckman for the game then
Hopefully King will ruck most of the game with Blake or Kosi just filling in when he is on interchange.

Squizzy1970

27 Jun 2008, 12:23

Agree SS - but caution required given his injuries, the fact he already rucked most of the game v Freo against two moving point posts, and given we are travelling. I thought he was pretty heroic in helping us over the line, and the way a few players went to him after the siren they probably think the same.

thegoldenbear

27 Jun 2008, 13:06

[QUOTEGeez I hope Milney pulls the finger out for a change (interstate). Don't know whether they have anyone to go with him if he is "up".[/QUOTE]

Hopefully they've put a rocket up him, telling him that if he goes missing on this interstate trip he'll only need to worry about the boat to Tassie in future.

sainter_girl

27 Jun 2008, 15:03

good ins.. when is xavier back?!

just on Xavier, do I remember correctly .... did he sign a 1 yr deal last yr with the hope of extending mid season?

SaintsSeptember

27 Jun 2008, 16:34

[QUOTEGeez I hope Milney pulls the finger out for a change (interstate). Don't know whether they have anyone to go with him if he is "up".

Hopefully they've put a rocket up him, telling him that if he goes missing on this interstate trip he'll only need to worry about the boat to Tassie in future.[/quote]

What is it with Milney anyway. Does he have trouble if he's not sleeping in his own bed, or does he sneak out and party. Really a plane to Sydney ( his last fizzer) is no different to sitting down and wathing a movie on TV. Maybe they would be better sending him up the day of the game!:confused:

Kildonan

28 Jun 2008, 00:50

Saints claiming home ground advantage for Carrara (http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/06/27/2287688.htm)
Posted Fri Jun 27, 2008 11:33am AEST

St Kilda chief executive Archie Fraser says he is expecting a home crowd advantage when the side plays North Melbourne at Carrara Stadium on the Gold Coast tomorrow night.

The game is officially recognised by the AFL as a Kangaroos home game.

Fraser says having former Gold Coast juniors Nick Riewoldt and Sam Gilbert on their roster should swing the crowd St Kilda's way.

"I know those boys are looking forward to coming back and we've got a very solid supporter group up here as well, which is great to be able to reward them as well with playing right in their back yard," Fraser said.

"We've got great support in south-east Queensland they pay their memberships each year and we're looking forward to hopefully a home crowd advantage against the Kangaroos on Saturday night."

Fraser says it has been 19 years since the club played on the Gold Coast and the team is excited to be playing there.

"We haven't played up here since '89 so I know the whole playing group were looking forward to getting up here and getting some good weather and taking home the four points in what's a very important game against North Melbourne".

TheTrav

28 Jun 2008, 16:19

I'm going, generally alot of saints fans up this way as well, wouldn't be a surprize if we had nearly a home ground advantage, people went cold on north up here after they said no to the gold coast.

CHBench

28 Jun 2008, 20:44

What the hell?

When the ball is at half forward and there is no one on our 50?
When there is no one in our 50 we bomb it in long?
When the ball needs to be bombed in long we play a little game of kick to kick ?
Why when the midfield square is clusted no one makes an effort to go into space?
Why at a time we need our senior players to stand up they gift 2 goals to the opposition.

We are a joke, we play the worst brand of football ever to touch the game. Our skills are pathetic, our teamwork is pathetic, we are all round pathetic.

The players don't look as if they are trying, they have no motivation.

Melbourne would be belting the Roos at the moment, says a lot for our side.