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Am wondering what your decisionsare on some of your players on your list are, I know alot of people from other clubs are quite interested in some of the fringe players.
Who are the players that wont be at Geelong next year,
Personally, I am quite interested in Prismal (who isnt), Davenport, Tenace.
Any others who arent really performing or coming on that wont be at the cats next year.
Thanks for everyones insight, whoever puts in.
Cheers.
S "Thinks He's Daicos" J
27 Jun 2008, 15:04
I think Tenace will struggle to be on the list next year, not too much other chaff to sort from the wheat this year though.
Also David Johnson is a chance.
OldStyle2007
27 Jun 2008, 15:05
I think the cats would like to keep Prismal. They know that he is one injury away to one of the senior list from being a regular player.
Tenace will be delisted I think. I am no sure about Davenport - there is probably not a spot for him right now but the Cats probably wouldn't want to lose him
Also Byrnes could be traded
I think Tenace will struggle to be on the list next year
I don't think there will be much of a struggle - GAWN !!!
Tenace would be a good chance of getting a 2nd shot at another club.
DJ will also be gone.It hasn't helped that he's had a couple of injuries this year when he might've been a chance for a senior gig.
NA would be another gone from the list.
After last year I don't think there will be a lot of changes.
Tenace and David Johnson will probably be picked up by other clubs. Perhaps a slight chance West might ask for a move for more game time.
Hogan may get delisted. Other than that I think we will fight to keep everyone else together.
The Pivotonian
27 Jun 2008, 17:23
Who are the players that wont be at Geelong next year,
Personally, I am quite interested in Prismal (who isnt), Davenport, Tenace.
:eek: Essendon could pick him up in the pre-season draft for nothing. I suspect his days in the hoops are fast running out.
Shame really, I had high hopes when GFC drafted him.
The Pivotonian
27 Jun 2008, 17:29
I think the cats would like to keep Prismal. They know that he is one injury away to one of the senior list from being a regular player.
Agreed
Tenace will be delisted I think. I am no sure about Davenport - there is probably not a spot for him right now but the Cats probably wouldn't want to lose him
Agree about Tenace. I think Davenport has more upside than Tenace and there is probably only really room for one of them on the list now.
Also Byrnes could be traded
I think Geelong should have shopped him at the end of last year. His value would have never been higher than at that point. At Geelong Byrnes will always sit on the fringe, at another club he could become a regular.
That is a win-win in my eyes.
S "Thinks He's Daicos" J
27 Jun 2008, 17:32
I'd love to somehow see St Kilda look to 'speed' for 2009 and take Tenace.
The Pivotonian
27 Jun 2008, 17:38
I'd love to somehow see St Kilda look to 'speed' for 2009 and take Tenace.
For pick 96 perhaps?? :D
geelong16
27 Jun 2008, 18:07
Off topic but i dont know if it deserves a new thread, but who do you think the cats will opt out of Hawkins and Lonergan this week. Lonergan is putting together some reasonable consistent games, but of recent Hawkins has been dominating the VFL. Your would think the cats will be considering bringing Hawkins into the game against adelaide this week, Kicked 7 last week, Lonergan only managed 2 when we scored over 180. Who do you think will play? Hawkins, Lonergan or both?
gazzasuperstar29
27 Jun 2008, 18:27
I think Tenace and David Johnson are certainties to not be at the Cattery next year while I think theres a fair chance Byrnes will be traded.(could get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him) Prissa could be asked to be traded depending on how many games he gets in the second half of this year - hopefully he stays.
thehoff
27 Jun 2008, 19:03
Early stages
Bye Bye: Shannon Friggen Byrnes, Kane Tenace.
Kane has been given many chances. Shannon is average (and that a compliment).
Prismall will look to be traded if we are not careful.
tin can sam
27 Jun 2008, 19:23
early stages suggest (like others have said)
we'll lose Tenace, Johnson, Ablett and Hogan.
Bring in Ranga and have 3 selections in the draft.
Agree with most that was said here... hope we can hold onto prisa though... very good kid... & bring on RANGA!
what would you guys take for Prismall, have thought about this long and hard, and he seems to have a very good head on his shoulders, althouigh some people (mainly Cats fans) have said that he would struggle at other clubs being alot higher up the pecking order in a midfield.
What about a 3rd rounder, Essendon would not be willing to give up their first 2 draft picks for a largely untried, unproven young midfielder, he has shown glimpses of what he can produce but is their a spot at the geelong midfield on a consistant basis.
I am also a huge fan of Tenace, how has he played in the VFL, where is he best suited to, is he still running out of dedence for the reserves.
How does Davenport go, same type of mould as Prismall?? any one else>
How does Davenport go,same type of mould as Prismall??
Er....no.That would be like saying the tortoise and the hare are in the same mould.
THEWAITISOVER
27 Jun 2008, 20:02
Tenace will definately go at years end and although he hasn't been to bad in the 2's he still has the ability to bring out the heaalth cover and ambulance cover when delivering the ball. I would hate to be on the end of one of his chippy little kicks.
David Johnston - gone
Simon Hogan Gone and
Prismall has to be close with a new contract beckoning I think??
early stages suggest (like others have said)
we'll lose Tenace, Johnson, Ablett and Hogan.
Bring in Ranga and have 3 selections in the draft.
I don't think they will get rid of hogan, the lad is only in his second season and is actually starting to show a bit, his starting to bulk up, be disappointing for them to dump him so early might come back to bite us in the bum!!!
THEWAITISOVER
27 Jun 2008, 20:06
Will depend on Nablett I think but good point
Tenace will definately go at years end and although he hasn't been to bad in the 2's he still has the ability to bring out the heaalth cover and ambulance cover when delivering the ball. I would hate to be on the end of one of his chippy little kicks.
David Johnston - gone
Simon Hogan Gone and
Prismall has to be close with a new contract beckoning I think??
so Teance is a wasted talent really, dont rate him, am only asking, I would have thought that Prismall would be good trade bait, get some good picks for him, just an observation. sorry.
catempire
27 Jun 2008, 20:22
What about a 3rd rounder, Essendon would not be willing to give up their first 2 draft picks for a largely untried, unproven young midfielder, he has shown glimpses of what he can produce but is their a spot at the geelong midfield on a consistant basis.
To be honest you'll probably get him for nothing in the PSD if you play your cards right as he is uncontracted.
But on the open market, if he was still contracted, there's no way you'd get him for a third rounder. He'll walk straight into your starting on-ball brigade.
To be honest you'll probably get him for nothing in the PSD if you play your cards right as he is uncontracted.
But on the open market, if he was still contracted, there's no way you'd get him for a third rounder. He'll walk straight into your starting on-ball brigade.
surely the cats would see some value in him and try to sqeeze something out of him from another club, draft picks players, but yeah,
tin can sam
27 Jun 2008, 20:55
surely the cats would see some value in him and try to sqeeze something out of him from another club, draft picks players, but yeah,
we'll do everything we can to keep him on the list.
Wont be traded unless he wants to be, then he's likely to just walk.
Hinkley29
28 Jun 2008, 00:26
....I think theres a fair chance Byrnes will be traded.(could get a 2nd or 3rd round pick for him)....
Which dememted club would give a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Byrnes? Akermanis went to the Bulldogs for a very late 2nd rounder, and he had a lot more trade value than Byrnes ever could.
Plus clubs will be less inclined to trade away draft picks this year given that it will the last uncompromised draft for a while.
thejester
28 Jun 2008, 11:14
Tenace and DJ are gone. You'd suspect Prismall will ask to get traded as well. Delist NAblett as well....Hogan could be in danger as well but has actually been showing a bit in the twos of late, likewise Byrnes might be for the chop/trade. IMO Moles deserves to be elevated; apart from that, let's mine the draft. Hopefully use some trades to upgrade picks.
Tenace, D Johnson and Byrnes would be the ones gone. I'd like to see, anyway.
Not my man Hogan though! :p :( Also we'd all love to see NAblett come back.
And I'd be very disappointed to see Prismall go, he's only 21 years old and will be the future in the middle with Selwood!
West wont go, he's only 20 also... Should be in the middle with Prismall and Selwood in the future.
Unwritten_Law
28 Jun 2008, 12:17
To be honest you'll probably get him for nothing in the PSD if you play your cards right as he is uncontracted.
With both the Eagles and Freo struggling big time through the midfield I don't think they would let him slip through if they could get him for nothing.
The thread has it pretty well covered I think. Tenace, DJ, Ablett gone. Byrnes, Davenport, Hogan nervous. The last two, being unproven, would be bloody stiff.
catempire
28 Jun 2008, 12:47
Maybe. Depends who else nominates.
worthogs
28 Jun 2008, 12:58
Off topic but i dont know if it deserves a new thread, but who do you think the cats will opt out of Hawkins and Lonergan this week. Lonergan is putting together some reasonable consistent games, but of recent Hawkins has been dominating the VFL. Your would think the cats will be considering bringing Hawkins into the game against adelaide this week, Kicked 7 last week, Lonergan only managed 2 when we scored over 180. Who do you think will play? Hawkins, Lonergan or both?
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1 good game is hardly dominating. Lonegran gets to the ball, disposal lets him down. He will stay for a while till Hawkins is more consistent.
Tenace gone
Hogan gone possibley but they still have wraps on him
DJ gone
Nablett probably!
Byrnes good bye - please, Varcoe has him for pace, goals, pressure (Byrnes) oh and Talent! the oinly thing he doesnt have over him is the premiership medal.
Davenport is a shoe in to stay,
cats2rise
29 Jun 2008, 00:11
what would you guys take for Prismall, have thought about this long and hard, and he seems to have a very good head on his shoulders, althouigh some people (mainly Cats fans) have said that he would struggle at other clubs being alot higher up the pecking order in a midfield.
What about a 3rd rounder, Essendon would not be willing to give up their first 2 draft picks for a largely untried, unproven young midfielder, he has shown glimpses of what he can produce but is their a spot at the geelong midfield on a consistant basis.
I am also a huge fan of Tenace, how has he played in the VFL, where is he best suited to, is he still running out of dedence for the reserves.
How does Davenport go, same type of mould as Prismall?? any one else>
Third round pick for Tenace and you don't get Prismall, OR Prismall and Tenace for a second round.
Tenace, D Johnson and Byrnes would be the ones gone. I'd like to see, anyway.
Not my man Hogan though! :p :( Also we'd all love to see NAblett come back.
And I'd be very disappointed to see Prismall go, he's only 21 years old and will be the future in the middle with Selwood!
West wont go, he's only 20 also... Should be in the middle with Prismall and Selwood in the future.
Basically what I was going to say. Cheers.
OldStyle2007
30 Jun 2008, 14:48
Off topic but i dont know if it deserves a new thread, but who do you think the cats will opt out of Hawkins and Lonergan this week. Lonergan is putting together some reasonable consistent games, but of recent Hawkins has been dominating the VFL. Your would think the cats will be considering bringing Hawkins into the game against adelaide this week, Kicked 7 last week, Lonergan only managed 2 when we scored over 180. Who do you think will play? Hawkins, Lonergan or both?
Lonergan is a really smart player and seems to make the most of the greater skill level at the higher grade. By that I mean he times his leads very well and seems to mark most of what comes at him fairly well. Once he gets it in a goal scoring position he'll have a shot too which gives the team confidence in what is happening down in the forward line. Lonergan is a presence all match long. On top of all this he can pinch hit in defence or even in the ruck
Oppose that to Hawkins who times his leads poorly, but can take more spectacular marks, but also drops regulation catches. Hawkins fades out of large patches in games due to fitness/confidence/concentration. Also Hawkins will often make a mess of it once he gets it with a poor chip pass or handball over the top to a player who is not likely to do much with it even though he's calling for it loudly. At this stage Hawkins cannot go to defence or the ruck
At this stage I think Lonergan is a much better fit in the 1's. Hawkins will get much better with experience though, but maybe not this year
madcat001
30 Jun 2008, 18:19
Byrnes, David Johnson and Tenace are probably all gone, the club will do what they can to keep Prismall, and the rest is anyones guess.
Geelong_Sicko
30 Jun 2008, 18:52
Hawkins will get much better with experience though, but maybe not this year
I agree. Looking over the games from earlier this year, all the Tommahawk has to do is get confident and get HUNGRY. That ball is MINE. The goals are MINE. You want the ball, Stokesy? Piss off, I'm gonna drill this bastard from 60!!
Get HUNGRY and become something to be feared, Tom!
themuddy#3
1 Jul 2008, 15:55
Will depend on Nablett I think but good pointexactly, we need to open up our list a bit,next year he is either playing or he isnt, cant keep him there wasting space. do you think we'll have rookie elevations??
Reg Hickey
2 Jul 2008, 14:47
Lonegran gets to the ball, disposal lets him down. He will stay for a while till Hawkins is more consistent.
Having watched him in the VFL quite a few times last year especially, I think Lonergan is possibly the best set shot for goal on our list. It would have to be between him and Ling from anywhere inside 40. I know he's missed a couple of easy ones in the last few weeks, but I think thats just nerves and he'll revert to form once he settles.
Re list changes, I agree with previous posters that Tenace and DJ are the obvious ones - both GAWN. The other one I would love to see us put on the trade table is Byrnes, and if we get an offer of pick 90, TAKE IT! NOW!!
Hogan is probably next in line after that, followed by Davenport and West. I would hate to see Davenport in particular traded - I think with his speed, motor, goal-kicking ability and ball magnetism, he has the potential to be a great player for us. West also looks too much of a prospect to get rid of just yet, while I am less certain on Hogan. He's had a couple of good performances, but he just looks a long way off a regular senior spot and - I'll be honest here - he reminds me a little bit of Byrnes :eek:. That said, if we have room I would be happy to keep him for another development year, just not at the expense of anyone else.
However, I think there is a pretty good chance we won't have to trade more than two. Harley is eligible for the vets list next year which I think puts him outside the 38, I reckon NAblett is still a longshot to come back, and there is a reasonable chance Prismall will want to leave and will be traded. Thats definitely one, probably two and maybe three spots freed up right there. Also, I can't see anyone being upgraded from the rookie list - Bedford is the only one who has to be promoted or dumped, and I haven't seen much to suggest he deserves a senior list spot.