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Rick18
27 Jun 2008, 22:02
Once again, here's the CricInfo preview (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/wivaus/content/current/story/358134.html)

Ailing West Indies face uphill battle

The Big Picture
Australia have the momentum after a convincing win in the first ODI in St Vincent on Tuesday and victory in the first of two games in Grenada would give them a formidable 2-0 lead in the five-match series. There were plenty of positives for the visitors in the opening encounter: Shaun Marsh was the Man of the Match with 81 on debut, Nathan Bracken picked up four wickets in his first major outing since knee surgery and Brett Lee was just as threatening as in the Tests. For West Indies virtually nothing went right. They were already missing Shivnarine Chanderpaul with a leg injury, then Xavier Marshall hurt his shoulder in the field, and none of the batsmen looked like making a successful chase. It will take a huge effort for them to turn the tide their way in Grenada.

ODI form guide
West Indies - LNWWL (most recent first)
Australia - WLLLW

Team news
As well as the injuries to Chanderpaul and Marshall, West Indies also had to deal with groin complaints for Ramnaresh Sarwan and Chris Gayle, neither of whom were at 100% in St Vincent. The coach John Dyson says the group feels "more like a mobile hospital than a playing unit of late". They tested a few younger players in the first match and it's likely Andre Fletcher or Kieron Pollard will get another chance. Chanderpaul will return, making West Indies supporters happy after his exploits in the Tests, while Sarwan and Gayle are playing.

West Indies (possible) 1 Chris Gayle (capt), 2 Xavier Marshall, 3 Ramnaresh Sarwan, 4 Shivnarine Chanderpaul, 5 Dwayne Bravo, 6 Kieron Pollard, 7 Denesh Ramdin (wk), 8 Darren Sammy, 9 Jerome Taylor, 10 Sulieman Benn, 11 Fidel Edwards.

If Australia's idea for this series was to trial new players, part one of the plan worked brilliantly with Marsh's debut heroics. David Hussey might get an opportunity at some point in the series, although probably not in this game, while Andrew Symonds remains in doubt with a lingering back injury. The wicketkeeper Brad Haddin's right ring finger is also troubling him, so expect Luke Ronchi to receive a chance over the next three days. Mitchell Johnson showed signs of improvement in St Vincent and Australia will likely continue with him rather than including Stuart Clark, but they have delayed naming their side until shortly before the game.

Australia (possible) 1 Shane Watson, 2 Shaun Marsh, 3 Ricky Ponting (capt), 4 Michael Clarke, 5 Michael Hussey, 6 Brad Haddin (wk), 7 Cameron White, 8 James Hopes, 9 Brett Lee, 10 Mitchell Johnson, 11 Nathan Bracken.

Watch out for ...
Darren Sammy Typically it's Dwayne Bravo that gets the all-round attention in this West Indies line-up but Sammy is starting to prove a very useful bits-and-pieces player. In St Vincent he was arguably West Indies' best bowler, collecting 2 for 31 and clearly thinking about his craft. His nagging line made him harder to get away than his quicker colleagues and he has a well-disguised slower ball, which got rid of Marsh on 81. Sammy also equal top scored in the chase with 33. All West Indies need from him now is to turn these useful contributions into occasional match-winning efforts.

Ricky Ponting Australia's captain is experiencing an unusual run of form where he either seems to make big hundreds or fall very early. Since the start of the Chappell-Hadlee Series in December his ODI scores have been 107, 134, 0, 9, 9, 25, 10, 11, 124, 1, 1, 1 and 5. That means it's about time for another century. It's also his 300th ODI and he has a history of brilliant performances (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/wivaus/content/story/358132.html) in milestone matches. But Ponting will need to get over his struggles against Jerome Taylor, who has now dismissed him four times from his past five international innings.

Umpires Asad Rauf, Norman Malcolm.

Weather
Scattered showers are forecast for Friday, so it could be another stop-start day. There were plenty of such occasions during the Test series and then in the Twenty20 international.

Stats and trivia
Ponting will be the second Australian to reach 300 ODI appearances, with Steve Waugh heading the list on 325.

Australia played two Super Eights matches at the National Cricket Stadium in Grenada during the 2007 World Cup, thrashing Sri Lanka by seven wickets and demolishing New Zealand by 215 runs. West Indies' only outing there during the tournament was a 67-run loss to South Africa.

Leaving aside a rain-reduced match in 2004 and Ireland's capitulation for 77 in the World Cup, the average first-innings score at the stadium is 255.

Quotes
"We have to regroup and rethink our approach. It is a series of five. It's not the end of the earth yet."
John Dyson, West Indies' coach "The overall composition of the team is pretty good, and in Grenada, we can expect the same sub-continent type pitches, and I believe our overall make-up will work as well."
Ricky Ponting, Australia's captain

triplejdude
27 Jun 2008, 22:43
I hope Ronchi plays, give us a glimpse of the future of Aussie cricket along with young Marsh.

Also good to see Chanders back, he can at least put up some resistance in the otherwise dreadful Windies batting lineup.

Australia by a fair margin.

Blue Dimension
27 Jun 2008, 22:44
That West Indies side looks very good on paper. All they lack is a decent keeper batsman and they'll trouble many sides in the world in future (Ramdin is basically just a token wicket)

Don't think these remainding ODI's are going to be as easy to win as the first.

Cousin Jed
27 Jun 2008, 22:49
Unless the throw was perfect, Haddin was struggling massively with the gloves. He batted well but I prefer it if 1 doesn't turn into 2, 2 into 3 etc every time you throw it into the keeper.

Gunnar Longshanks
27 Jun 2008, 22:55
Haddin out, Ronchi in - CONFIRMED.

ST GEORGE'S, Grenada, June 27 AAP - Brad Haddin has been ruled out of the remainder of Australia's one-day tour of the West Indies because of his broken finger.

Luke Ronchi will make his international debut in game two of the series in Grenada today, with Haddin to fly home as soon as possible.

KingCJ
27 Jun 2008, 23:00
Unlucky for Brad, but Ronchi should be good enough to make up for him.

OzBomber
27 Jun 2008, 23:29
Ricky Ponting has won the toss and elected to bat in his 300th game. Ronchi to make his debut. Funny how as soon as Gilly retires, we've had 2 more keepers play.

Carn Shaun Marsh.

OzBomber
27 Jun 2008, 23:33
Nice way to start the game. :rolleyes:

Romeo
27 Jun 2008, 23:35
I'm expecting this to be a walk in the park. And Sarwan out injured can't help their cause.

Divi18
27 Jun 2008, 23:36
Very disappointing indeed.

You would have thought that this would have been tested leading up to the match.

Cousin Jed
27 Jun 2008, 23:37
Great advertising strategy from Digicel. :thumbsu:

rusdid24
27 Jun 2008, 23:38
What a frigging shambles

Made4September
27 Jun 2008, 23:38
This is absolutely pathetic. Even in our local cricket, we make sure things are done b4 the game starts!! WI Cricket Association needs to give these guys a swift kick!

OzBomber
27 Jun 2008, 23:42
This is a bloody farce. Surely they test it before the game starts?

rusdid24
27 Jun 2008, 23:44
And now it's ____ing raining!!

OzBomber
27 Jun 2008, 23:44
And it starts to rain as soon as it's fixed. :rolleyes:

Could've played 3 overs by now. Far out.

AND NOW THE COVERS ARE IN FRONT OF THE SIGHT SCREEN!

This is ridiculous.

And now the public address system turns on! What the hell!

Horaaay we have play!

Rick18
27 Jun 2008, 23:44
This is quite possibly the funniest thing I've ever seen.

Divi18
27 Jun 2008, 23:45
OMG, Now it is raining
Hopefully only a passing shower

Cousin Jed
27 Jun 2008, 23:45
And after all that he bowled around the wicket, and they didn't need the damn sight board.

OzBomber
27 Jun 2008, 23:47
Now some bloody white benches are in the way. Far out, what's the deal with these people?

Divi18
27 Jun 2008, 23:48
Geez this might just be the longest over in international cricket the way it is going.

rusdid24
27 Jun 2008, 23:49
Holy shit, this is a shambles.

When was the last time the first over of an ODI took nearly 20 minutes to bowl? :eek:

Cousin Jed
27 Jun 2008, 23:50
Cue Watson bashers

OzBomber
27 Jun 2008, 23:51
And after so many delays, Jerome Taylor gets Shane Watson with a very good yorker. Could be a broken toe there. Very sore.

Rick18
27 Jun 2008, 23:52
It was almost on cue, that wicket. Something had to happen to cap the over off.

Made4September
27 Jun 2008, 23:52
And Watson Lovers' excuse making re: delays

OzBomber
27 Jun 2008, 23:52
Holy shit, this is a shambles.

When was the last time the first over of an ODI took nearly 20 minutes to bowl? :eek:
Nah, because he didn't actually start the over before all that stuff happened. So the over only took about 8 or so minutes.

pickman
27 Jun 2008, 23:53
What a complete and utter shambles, Hollywood scrit writers couldn't create such absurdity!

Oh and great to see another sparkling performance from Shane Watson in Australian colours... :rolleyes:

rusdid24
27 Jun 2008, 23:55
Nah, because he didn't actually start the over before all that stuff happened. So the over only took about 8 or so minutes.

8 minutes isn't exactly breakneck speed either

Cousin Jed
27 Jun 2008, 23:55
Might have been a good toss to lose here if the 5-10 record of teams batting first and the hint of movement out there is anything to go by

OzBomber
27 Jun 2008, 23:58
Ponting will score a hundred tonight.

TheMightyPies
28 Jun 2008, 00:06
marsh has started off great on 11

aussies 1-18

Cousin Jed
28 Jun 2008, 00:07
Gone now though

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 00:08
Gone! Marsh out. I think there was a bit of bounce there. Good bowling.

TheMightyPies
28 Jun 2008, 00:09
marsh gone for 12, shouldnt of said anything

King Elvis
28 Jun 2008, 00:12
What a joke - how are our batsmen meant to concentrate with this charade going on?

Marsh shouldn't have even faced that delivery.

TheMightyPies
28 Jun 2008, 00:15
half the sign was still up:confused:

King Elvis
28 Jun 2008, 00:24
half the sign was still up:confused:

As far as I'm aware, if Marsh faces up, then the bowler is entitled to bowl.

Marsh shouldn't have ever taken his stance.

Punter gone.

Rick18
28 Jun 2008, 00:29
Shit, we're in a bit of strife here. Great captaincy from Gayle though.

TheMightyPies
28 Jun 2008, 00:30
Ponting will score a hundred tonight.

yer?



Australia 3-35

swanniez1983
28 Jun 2008, 00:31
Ponting will score a hundred tonight.

Better luck next time champ :o;)

Blue Dimension
28 Jun 2008, 00:32
That West Indies side looks very good on paper. All they lack is a decent keeper batsman and they'll trouble many sides in the world in future (Ramdin is basically just a token wicket)

Don't think these remainding ODI's are going to be as easy to win as the first.

As if on cue, Ramdin out, Browne in. Had a very promising series before this one, can't quite remember who it was against. Reckon he'll at least put up a fight unlike Ramdin.

Romeo
28 Jun 2008, 00:32
Better luck next time champ :o;)

Sean, all enthusiasm, little foresight though.

Rick18
28 Jun 2008, 00:34
yer?



Australia 3-35

Harsh, considering you said this:

marsh has started off great on 11

King Elvis
28 Jun 2008, 00:35
I'm not gay, but everytime Hussey is on the screen, I feel a lot of love.

Sean is a gun.

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 00:39
Hmmm, Punter usually always comes up with a big one in big games or when we're under the pump. I guess not tonight. I'm not going to say anything ever again.

TheMightyPies
28 Jun 2008, 00:43
hoping for a hussey century

Made4September
28 Jun 2008, 00:50
an aussie goes rasta?

geez Gus has the life! im jealous

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 00:52
I think Pup is gonna have quite a few bruises when he gets up tomorrow.

Gunnar Longshanks
28 Jun 2008, 00:57
The Windies are giving us a bath here.

3/37 after 15 overs.

King Elvis
28 Jun 2008, 00:57
This is so boring it's giving me a soft-on.

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 01:02
3 runs from 7 overs...

Cruiser23
28 Jun 2008, 01:04
Are Clarke and Hussey serious? 3 from 42 balls, must be trying to make the game more even :p

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 01:15
At this rate we'll make about 110.

8 runs in the last 10 overs. These guys do know it is not a test match?

Rick18
28 Jun 2008, 01:17
Thankfully the tennis is on, is all I'm saying :thumbsu::D

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 01:18
We're gonna need 7 an over just to get 210!

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 01:24
3 runs from the over? :eek::eek::eek:

You can't be serious! :D

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 01:41
A boundary!??!?!

You can't be serious!

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 02:22
Finally, we're batting a bit faster.

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 02:30
Great slog sweep there. Finally some agressive batting.

DeadlyAkkuret
28 Jun 2008, 02:36
Quality knock from Pup under the circumstances. Just need the Huss to go on with it:thumbsu:

Gunnar Longshanks
28 Jun 2008, 02:48
There's obviously a bit in the wicket.

Australia will back themselves to defend 220.

Will be a good test for some of our bowlers.

If White, Watson, Johnson or Hopes come in and go for 6 runs an over, it's going to hurt us. White is the real liability there.

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 02:53
What's wrong with Huss?

T-Pain
28 Jun 2008, 03:11
radio link anyone?

Rick18
28 Jun 2008, 03:14
I'll give you one better, here's a place to watch it:

http://www.justin.tv/cricket_1

T-Pain
28 Jun 2008, 03:17
appreciate it mate but my net connection's a stinker - the link is working for now

Gunnar Longshanks
28 Jun 2008, 03:18
Useful knock from Cam White.

If only he could bowl.

DeadlyAkkuret
28 Jun 2008, 04:07
I'll give you one better, here's a place to watch it:

http://www.justin.tv/cricket_1

Nice!!:D I've been watching the soccer on that site, suprised I didn't think to check for the cricket.

Gunnar Longshanks
28 Jun 2008, 04:56
Lee got Marshall with the first ball of the innings. Good start.

Windies now 2/30 after 11 overs, with Johnson claiming the other wicket.

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 05:15
Nice!!:D I've been watching the soccer on that site, suprised I didn't think to check for the cricket.Yeah it's a great site. I watched the first couple of tests on there before I got foxtel.

DeadlyAkkuret
28 Jun 2008, 05:18
Does it show AFL games?

Hopes gets him!!!

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 05:29
Does it show AFL games?

Hopes gets him!!!
There's one channel call aus_sports which occasionally shows AFL. He was showing the Brisbane game last week.

OzBomber
28 Jun 2008, 05:51
DA, you don't like Hippy much do ya? :p

We're going along very comfortably.

DeadlyAkkuret
28 Jun 2008, 06:00
DA, you don't like Hippy much do ya?:p

We're going along very comfortably.

I can't believe how mad they get just because you say it's getting boring. :rolleyes: Oh well I can still watch the game!

Gunnar Longshanks
28 Jun 2008, 06:48
Interesting that White hasn't been used as a bowler.

Makes you wonder why he was in the side ahead of Dave Hussey. Admittedly, he did play a useful knock, but surely he's behind Dave Hussey in the pecking order.

In the short-term, the only way for White to become a regular is to offer something with the ball. The fact that Clarke's off-spin is preferred doesn't say much for his chances.

Cousin Jed
28 Jun 2008, 09:18
Will be a good test for some of our bowlers.

If White, Watson, Johnson or Hopes come in and go for 6 runs an over, it's going to hurt us. White is the real liability there.

I keep telling you the bowling attack carried us for most of the summer. Why would it suddenly stop?

Gunnar Longshanks
28 Jun 2008, 18:34
I keep telling you the bowling attack carried us for most of the summer. Why would it suddenly stop?You keep telling me that, do you?

First I've heard of it.

I didn't even realise we had an ongoing dialogue.

It was a pretty gettable target - if some of the part-timers had been smacked around, the West Indies would have been a big show. But the Windies batted poorly and our part-timers bowled well. Hence the result.

It's telling that White didn't get a bowl.

LIONS then DAYLIGHT
28 Jun 2008, 19:06
Another great victory.

fraser25
30 Jun 2008, 03:29
It's telling that White didn't get a bowl.

Even Dave Hussey is a better bowler than Whitey