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Juggalo Balla
30 Jun 2008, 20:16
This young fella with the big frizzy hair got me really excited.
He goes hard at the ball, chases and tackles and can kick a goal when needed :thumbsu:
Also loved his hard running and smooth ball skills.
Wish we had guns like this at the Saints :p
Not bad for pick 40, inni?
Chopper will be an elite forward in 3 years time.
Personally i would like to see in the midfield all game. I could just see him blaze away at centre bounces kicking the ball to pav on the lead. His speed is just incrediable.
NiGHTFuRY
30 Jun 2008, 23:30
plus he has a good aussie nickname in chopper...:thumbsu::thumbsu:
fat wombat
1 Jul 2008, 00:32
There's a big plus side to his game. He has a contagious energy about him. He'll be selected for effort alone, I'd love to see him work on his composure when taking set shots though. I can't watch when this kid kicks for goal from a set shot. On the run or if he plays on he seems to have no dramas. It's when he has too much time to think about it.
longsuffreosupp
1 Jul 2008, 00:46
He certainly runs his heart out putting pressure on the ball coming back out. Not sure if he'll make the leap to consistant goal kicker, but certainly does more than enough to earn a spot in the team.
Was fantastic again on the weekend. The thing I love best about him is his defensive pressure. He really tries to harass the opposition like Farmer at his best. And he's quick.
Really, this gives me a lot to be optimistic about. If we can get Mayne at pick 40, then we could (with luck) pick up another 1-2 quality players in this year's draft. Things could be turning around for Freo sooner rather than later. :thumbsu:
chook2734
1 Jul 2008, 01:04
If Mayne continues with his good form, you would expect him to receive a Rising Star nomination before the season is finished. Not a bad return to collect three in a year, given we apparently have no young talent coming through and haven't had a nomination since Mundy in 2005.
shiny_on_top
1 Jul 2008, 08:46
Personally i'd perfer to develop Mayne as a half forward. An O'Keefe or Murphy type player rather than a midfielder. Quality players like these two are rare and invalueable:thumbsu:
If Mayne continues with his good form, you would expect him to receive a Rising Star nomination before the season is finished. Not a bad return to collect three in a year, given we apparently have no young talent coming through and haven't had a nomination since Mundy in 2005.
If his performance against Essendon is any indication of his form thus far he definately deserves a nod sooner rather than later.
Running Bouncer
1 Jul 2008, 12:59
the fact he's usually getting the ball just beyond half forward means we perhaps don't get to chance to see what he can do in a bit of space - he seems to ahve the chutzpah to really take guys on and have a few bounces a la your ryan griffen or jason gram, and unlike a brett peake he has the poise (and skill) to do something useful with it after having a run.. he's almost like a bigger version of dale thomas - without the ego it seems.
theGav56
1 Jul 2008, 14:51
he's almost like a bigger version of dale thomas - without the ego it seems.
I thought Thomas was actually quite tall, and Mayne actually looks like he is going to be more than handy size wise. Maybe not key position size, but with flair and pace he brings a pretty handy dimension to our forward line.
Deep Purple
1 Jul 2008, 15:22
I have become a huge Chopper fan. He looks the goods, one of the things I like about him is that he makes every mark and loose ball a contest and goes in hard. He could be a super star.
pinkus maximus
1 Jul 2008, 15:44
he's almost like a bigger version of dale thomas - without the ego it seems.
didn't he say he was a standout person and standout player in his first press conference
also managed to have a crack at the eagles too :thumbsu:
He could be even quicker if someone coached him on how to run. Bloody arms and legs flying everywhere and his head rocking around getting ready to fall off. (Could be a job for "Chops-a-Must"). Top player though, would be interesting to have Campbell in the forward line with him, two players who are very hard at the contest.
Checkers Nixon
1 Jul 2008, 16:21
Mayne is still a nobody to the media set here in Victoria. But I think he is probably the draft pick up of the season.
I am not saying he is necessarily better than Palmer (who I think will get the rookie of the year award) but I think when you consider that Mayne was taken at pick 40, FFC clearly got their draft recruitment right this time around.
I think the fact that a player with Mayne's quality and intensity can be picked up at pick 40 just shows how futile tanking efforts can be.
No doubt there are some supporters at your club that advocate "tanking". But I think Freo would really struggle with the pressure of the number 1 pick. I mean when you consider that you guys got the Pav at No. 4 it just shows you that you dont need the number 1 pick in order to get a top quality player.
Well done FFC on the Mayne pick up.
Having said that, I think you guys should consider cashing in your David Mundy chips at the end of the year. You would probably get a first round pick IMO.
Running Bouncer
1 Jul 2008, 16:43
i think the crazy thing about someone like chris mayne is that you see all the joy, enthusiasm and courage he brings into every game and wonder - why the heck don't they all play like he does?
He is a gun in the making, hope we can find a few more gems with Mayne's desire for a contest. The opposition players like to rough him up a bit as well, he must be doing more than a few things right :thumbsu:
NiGHTFuRY
1 Jul 2008, 18:51
Mayne is still a nobody to the media set here in Victoria. But I think he is probably the draft pick up of the season.
I am not saying he is necessarily better than Palmer (who I think will get the rookie of the year award) but I think when you consider that Mayne was taken at pick 40, FFC clearly got their draft recruitment right this time around.
I think the fact that a player with Mayne's quality and intensity can be picked up at pick 40 just shows how futile tanking efforts can be.
No doubt there are some supporters at your club that advocate "tanking". But I think Freo would really struggle with the pressure of the number 1 pick. I mean when you consider that you guys got the Pav at No. 4 it just shows you that you dont need the number 1 pick in order to get a top quality player.
Well done FFC on the Mayne pick up.
Having said that, I think you guys should consider cashing in your David Mundy chips at the end of the year. You would probably get a first round pick IMO.
Some good point you make there checkers :thumbsu::thumbsu:
Absolutely agree with the tanking thing. Unfortuately, like any club, we have those that lack honour and want to Fremantle FC to tank , but I'd rather always play for the win.
We don't need to tnak anyways... we are at least guareenteed a top ten pick now anyways....
I happen to agree with you in regards to if Fremantle landed the first pick, and with our sometimes sketchy past trading record we would come under enormous scrutiny..
..and if the football media love on thiung it is to go after Fremantle FC as we all know..
i think the crazy thing about someone like chris mayne is that you see all the joy, enthusiasm and courage he brings into every game and wonder - why the heck don't they all play like he does?
Can't talk about the others, but I LOVE Chopper's enthusiasm..for anything really. He's always in there for big team hugs, getting sandwiched between Pav and Taz (!), and giving a mate a pat on the butt.
Hopefully he will win the Best Clubman award at the B&F later this year.
( I realise that in saying that it is almost a kiss of death as other recipients of this award tend not to fare well in the future!).
Belnakor
1 Jul 2008, 19:34
I happen to agree with you in regards to if Fremantle landed the first pick, and with our sometimes sketchy past trading record we would come under enormous scrutiny..
..and if the football media love on thiung it is to go after Fremantle FC as we all know..
Got to agree. It wouldn't matter who we picked it would be known as the "freo draft blunder", inspite of drafts where Collingwood picked Fraiser above Pav and Hase :)
Chops_a_must
1 Jul 2008, 20:49
He could be even quicker if someone coached him on how to run. Bloody arms and legs flying everywhere and his head rocking around getting ready to fall off. (Could be a job for "Chops-a-Must"). Top player though, would be interesting to have Campbell in the forward line with him, two players who are very hard at the contest.
I know Matt Barber has been trying to get access to him at Perth, because no-one is teaching him how to run at Freo. Runs 11 flat for a hundred AFAIK, and with better technique would regularly run 10s, but is the fastest at Freo over 100 AFAIK.
Runs with his arms across his body, which is the mayne problem. Very easy to fix, partly with upper back strength - easy to work in with variations on the lat pull down machine.
I thought Thomas was actually quite tall, and Mayne actually looks like he is going to be more than handy size wise. Maybe not key position size, but with flair and pace he brings a pretty handy dimension to our forward line.
Mayne is the perfect 3rd tall/ option. Perfect foil for Tarrant and Pav. Plays much taller than what he is. :thumbsu:
Personally i'd perfer to develop Mayne as a half forward. An O'Keefe or Murphy type player rather than a midfielder. Quality players like these two are rare and invalueable:thumbsu:
I don't understand what the obsession is with turning him into a midfielder. O'Keefe is exactly what he should be modelled on. Thought that a few weeks back.
If you turn him into a mid, you take away his best asset, his speed. People don't seem to understand that. It's the whole juniour coach attitude, "Oh you can run real fast... go in the middle." Genetics and muscle dynamics doesn't work like that. Dumb.
Chops_a_must
1 Jul 2008, 20:50
Oh, and people reckon Palmer is a lock as future captain.
I reckon Mayne is. :)
bomba4eva
1 Jul 2008, 21:01
Not bad for pick 40, inni?
Chopper will be an elite forward in 3 years time.
Played very well against us. I was very impressed.
Good point about him being a good pick up at no. 40. Just shows that there is quality in all rounds of the draft and that good recruiters are vital to a club. We got Houli and Reimers in the 40's also. Drafts look much better when you pick up that bargain late in the draft. Believe that Lonergan went in the 50's in 2005.
Like the look of Mayne.
chook2734
1 Jul 2008, 21:17
I know Matt Barber has been trying to get access to him at Perth, because no-one is teaching him how to run at Freo. Runs 11 flat for a hundred AFAIK, and with better technique would regularly run 10s, but is the fastest at Freo over 100 AFAIK.
Let's hope Freo keep him away from Perth then.
Chops_a_must
1 Jul 2008, 23:08
Let's hope Freo keep him away from Perth then.
Mmmm...
I could sit here and argue... so if you want to take a shot, go ahead. I treat a lot of his athletes, so if you want to take a pot shot, I can set you straight if you so wish. :)
chook2734
1 Jul 2008, 23:24
Mmmm...
I could sit here and argue... so if you want to take a shot, go ahead. I treat a lot of his athletes, so if you want to take a pot shot, I can set you straight if you so wish. :)
Not taking any shots and I don't doubt that the guy knows his stuff, but I'd personally prefer him to not be involved with the club in any way.
Chops_a_must
1 Jul 2008, 23:25
Not taking any shots and I don't doubt that the guy knows his stuff, but I'd personally prefer him to not be involved with the club in any way.
Why not?
chook2734
1 Jul 2008, 23:27
Why not?
You know why - I'm not going to elaborate.
Chops_a_must
1 Jul 2008, 23:30
You know why - I'm not going to elaborate.
I'm really interested in what you've heard.
chook2734
1 Jul 2008, 23:37
I'm really interested in what you've heard.
As I said, I'm not going to elaborate, and I know that you know what I'm talking about. Perhaps your post-concussion trauma has popped up again and is affecting your memory? ;) Try google if you can't remember.
Checkers Nixon
1 Jul 2008, 23:47
People who think Mayne needs to "reconstruct" his running style are complete idiots.
I actually did alot of sprint training as a junior (and competed at some national and international junior athletics events) and I can tell you that it is very risky when it comes to messing with the mechanics of an athletes running style. Even slight changes in running style can result in injury (particulary back and hamstring problems which are already very common in AFL). Why would Freo want to mess with this?
The "classic running style" is not always the best fit. Consider legendary US sprinter Michael Johnson who is the only man to win Olympic Gold in both the 200 and 400 metre events. Throughout his entire career he was told that his running style was "too upright" and his stride length was "comically short". In fact, if you read his autobiography he actually comments that all the way through his career (until he won his first world title) people were telling him that if he changed his style he could shave a whole second of his personal best. As a junior Johnson had tried to revert to a classical style only to breakdown with injury. Since then he just stuck with his own technique.
Let Mayne focus on winning the football. Mayne is one of your best chasers when it comes to pressuring the ball carrier. Do you really want Mayne to be preoccupied with thoughts about whether he is running properly when he is on the field?
Chops_a_must
1 Jul 2008, 23:48
As I said, I'm not going to elaborate, and I know that you know what I'm talking about. Perhaps your post-concussion trauma has popped up again and is affecting your memory? ;) Try google if you can't remember.
Yes, yes, I'm well aware.
But what is there? An "incident" with a student - that the west got sued for defamation over, because it was utter crap. How typical. Next.
Cappo - who was tested thousands of times and ended up getting convicted without a positive B sample. It was thrown out at the national level, and wasn't internationally because he was bankrupted.
Innuendo about the Eagles - for being revolutionary with the weights and strength program. Had unheard of results for the time at Australian levels. But is really standard at AFL level now, probably even slightly poor. Most strength and conditioning coaches in the AFL use a direct derivative of his program. Cathy Freeman was on his program almost cycle for cycle, and session to session. The results speak for themselves. Does it mean all of these people involved with these programs are on drugs?
Anything else?
Chops_a_must
1 Jul 2008, 23:55
People who think Mayne needs to "reconstruct" his running style are complete idiots.
It's only the across the body movement with his arms that needs alterning. It's probably a strength imbalance more than anything.
The "classic running style" is not always the best fit. Consider legendary US sprinter Michael Johnson who is the only man to win Olympic Gold in both the 200 and 400 metre events. Throughout his entire career he was told that his running style was "too upright" and his stride length was "comically short". In fact, if you read his autobiography he actually comments that all the way through his career (until he won his first world title) people were telling him that if he changed his style he could shave a whole second of his personal best. As a junior Johnson had tried to revert to a classical style only to breakdown with injury. Since then he just stuck with his own technique.
He got around that because he blocked. Which susequently became best practice amongst 2-4 athletes in the institutions. They have since changed back. There is always a uniqueness in the techniques of freaks, ala Woods. It does cause problems in a lot of cases though, as seen with Woods' extension and knee problems.
Juggalo Balla
2 Jul 2008, 21:11
Looked to me like he was running more on guts than a quality enduro training. You can't push too hard when you are young.
He will mature into a very nice footballer as he nears his peak in 3-4 years time.
Dockers flag 2012!
Looked to me like he was running more on guts than a quality enduro training. You can't push too hard when you are young.
He will mature into a very nice footballer as he nears his peak in 3-4 years time.
Dockers flag 2012!
That long?? :(
SupersonicDocker
4 Jul 2008, 14:23
2010 should be our year...
2010 should be our year...
2010 WILL be our year!;)
Going to be a very good player for the Fremantle FC. You have some really talented youngsters down your end just that a lot of your senior players are letting you down when it matters. Good luck to the future.
Anyone else think that he should be in the leadership group next year?
chook2734
4 Jul 2008, 22:34
Anyone else think that he should be in the leadership group next year?
No.
There's no need to have a cast of thousands in the leadership group, and in any case, it shouldn't be a guy in his 2nd year of AFL. Pavlich will retain the captaincy, McPharlin, Sandilands and up to 2-3 others (eg Hayden, Solomon, Hasleby) should make up leadership group. There is plenty of time for Mayne and co to do this in the future. Let them settle into their footy first.
No.
There's no need to have a cast of thousands in the leadership group, and in any case, it shouldn't be a guy in his 2nd year of AFL. Pavlich will retain the captaincy, McPharlin, Sandilands and up to 2-3 others (eg Hayden, Solomon, Hasleby) should make up leadership group. There is plenty of time for Mayne and co to do this in the future. Let them settle into their footy first.
Thats a fair point but Jeff was in the leadership group until last week and the leadership group should be setting a good example for other players on and off the field and this is not something that Jeff is very good at, and I think that Chopper sets a great example on the field every week so he should be given the option of joining the group if he wants to.
Freo Big Fella
6 Jul 2008, 19:21
Yes, yes, I'm well aware.
But what is there? An "incident" with a student - that the west got sued for defamation over, because it was utter crap. How typical. Next.
Cappo - who was tested thousands of times and ended up getting convicted without a positive B sample. It was thrown out at the national level, and wasn't internationally because he was bankrupted.
Innuendo about the Eagles - for being revolutionary with the weights and strength program. Had unheard of results for the time at Australian levels. But is really standard at AFL level now, probably even slightly poor. Most strength and conditioning coaches in the AFL use a direct derivative of his program. Cathy Freeman was on his program almost cycle for cycle, and session to session. The results speak for themselves. Does it mean all of these people involved with these programs are on drugs?
Anything else?
I think you kind of proved his point a little. Why not get someone equally qualified but sans the dodgy reputation?
vote for mayne in this thread.. god knows he deserves it!
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=462341
purplepassion82
7 Jul 2008, 12:35
Done!
Good value from the draft. I love watching him run backwards and forwards, backwards and forwards chasing the ball between two opposition players....never saw him once give up chase! Some of our boys could learn a thing or two off this one!
Also LOVED it when he there was a contest close to goal, he tapped it down and pav goaled! A great team player. Whenever he's interviewed he speaks so well and seems just so happy and greatful to be playing footy.
Love this kid, there's something special about him :thumbsu:
Done!
Good value from the draft. I love watching him run backwards and forwards, backwards and forwards chasing the ball between two opposition players....never saw him once give up chase! Some of our boys could learn a thing or two off this one!
Also LOVED it when he there was a contest close to goal, he tapped it down and pav goaled! A great team player. Whenever he's interviewed he speaks so well and seems just so happy and greatful to be playing footy.
Love this kid, there's something special about him :thumbsu:
agree!
He is my new favourite player:thumbsu:
Chops_a_must
7 Jul 2008, 21:15
I think you kind of proved his point a little. Why not get someone equally qualified but sans the dodgy reputation?
In Australia, especially in football and strength,speed and conditioning, there isn't.
You've seen it with Subiaco, and now Perth. And you'll see it at Easts next year, if someone is given the nod if you know what I mean. ;) Results count for everything when all you are there to do is win, regardless of reputation. Because there is always a direct correlation between the two.
chook2734
7 Jul 2008, 21:22
Yes, yes, I'm well aware.
But what is there? An "incident" with a student - that the west got sued for defamation over, because it was utter crap. How typical. Next.
Cappo - who was tested thousands of times and ended up getting convicted without a positive B sample. It was thrown out at the national level, and wasn't internationally because he was bankrupted.
Innuendo about the Eagles - for being revolutionary with the weights and strength program. Had unheard of results for the time at Australian levels. But is really standard at AFL level now, probably even slightly poor. Most strength and conditioning coaches in the AFL use a direct derivative of his program. Cathy Freeman was on his program almost cycle for cycle, and session to session. The results speak for themselves. Does it mean all of these people involved with these programs are on drugs?
Anything else?
In Australia, especially in football and strength,speed and conditioning, there isn't.
You've seen it with Subiaco, and now Perth. And you'll see it at Easts next year, if someone is given the nod if you know what I mean. ;) Results count for everything when all you are there to do is win, regardless of reputation. Because there is always a direct correlation between the two.
Chops, I could very well be missing something here, but the way I read your above two posts, many people are using similar programs to Barber's? Who was Freeman's trainer? If his programs are so publically known and clearly others have had success implementing them, then I can't understand why
Freo can't find someone to do likewise?
Chops_a_must
7 Jul 2008, 21:36
Chops, I could very well be missing something here, but the way I read your above two posts, many people are using similar programs to Barber's? Who was Freeman's trainer? If his programs are so publically known and clearly others have had success implementing them, then I can't understand why
Freo can't find someone to do likewise?
Usually because the people implementing them don't come from the institutes, or the Australian uni system.
Therein lies the problem.
Really haven't been a whole lot of succesful athetes from institutes, nor coaches in the broad range of aspects for that matter as well. But a lot of clubs like Freo love bits of paper on the wall, regardless of results. So they will go for the people with heaps of quals, but not necessarily any results.
If you wanted to get someone with a similar program, with the same level of official training, you would have to be poaching someone from the College Football system.
chook2734
7 Jul 2008, 21:53
Usually because the people implementing them don't come from the institutes, or the Australian uni system.
Therein lies the problem.
Really haven't been a whole lot of succesful athetes from institutes, nor coaches in the broad range of aspects for that matter as well. But a lot of clubs like Freo love bits of paper on the wall, regardless of results. So they will go for the people with heaps of quals, but not necessarily any results.
If you wanted to get someone with a similar program, with the same level of official training, you would have to be poaching someone from the College Football system.
Thanks for the explanation. I can understand in part the desire for some kind of qualifications though. Players are a clubs only real asset - they can't just let anyone loose on them.
DOCKER MAN
9 Jul 2008, 01:13
was robbed of the rising star nomination, i didn't notice this Garland bloke who got it when i watched that game
was robbed of the rising star nomination, i didn't notice this Garland bloke who got it when i watched that game
Mayne was stiff, but the Rising Star is a bit random as to when blokes get nominated. It is almost as if they decide to nominate a bloke then wait a few weeks before they do it.
That said, Garland has been quality. You probably would have noticed him if he was getting pantsed, which he wasnt.
vote for mayne in this thread.. god knows he deserves it!
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=462341
Progressive vote update:
1. Mayne (39 votes)
T2. Morton, Urquhart, Anthony (5 votes)
5. Jetta (2 votes)
T6. Carlile, Lonergan (1 vote)
I think it's in the bag :D