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IMO he should be reported twice.
1) Standing on BB's foot for 7 seconds
2) Fist to the back of BB's head.
I was about to bring this up.
Some of the things he did were just plain stupid and im happy that in the end he got caught for it in the goalsquare.
Ive always thought him a hard at it player but after todays performance theres no doubt his time to retire has come. No respect can be gained by playing like he did
Thrawn666
1 Sep 2002, 17:28
IMO he is an old hack ****** who has resorted to niggling more so than ever today. Shouldve given away 50 at least twice going on Dan Kerr's "toe over the mark while king screams like a little bitch" incident.
Originally posted by Frodo
IMO he should be reported twice.
1) Standing on BB's foot for 7 seconds
Wanganeen got reported for something very similar in the Ansett Cup Grand Final last year. He didnt get suspended tho. He got decked and play stopped, he got back up and stepped on the heel of the Lions player as he was walking away...seemed fairly minor but he got reported.
Martyns was 10x worse than that and he should be suspended for it.
Dermie thought it was funny, so that gives a pretty good indication...
Won't be reported for either incident, though... and probably shouldn't be I don't think. 50m penalties would have been appropriate in both cases, pity they can't do those on video!
daddy_4_eyes
1 Sep 2002, 17:32
He's a washed-up old fart. Imagine if Wilson had a bit more momentum going when Martyn stepped on his foot, could easily have done a knee or torn ankle ligaments. And Frodo's 2nd incident, Martyn actually followed that through by landing on Wilson's head with his elbow. But Wilson had the last laugh, 5 goals to his name, and Martyn wasn't near him on any lead.
And people say Fido is dirty :rolleyes:
Originally posted by Frodo
IMO he should be reported twice.
1) Standing on BB's foot for 7 seconds
2) Fist to the back of BB's head.
Whatabout Martyn dropping the knees into Wilson ? McKernan lost a Brownlow for a similar thing.
Mr Eagle
1 Sep 2002, 17:38
Originally posted by JUBJUB
Whatabout Martyn dropping the knees into Wilson ? Don't recall any specific incidents of that, although he did try and "fall" on top of Porno a few times...
TheRealBuzz
1 Sep 2002, 17:39
I like Micky Martyn.
He now has some real limitations in his game, and he's willing to do anything it takes to get the job done.
Originally posted by JUBJUB
Whatabout Martyn dropping the knees into Wilson ? McKernan lost a Brownlow for a similar thing.
Yep he did that just after he had finished stomping on Wilson's ankle. To actually lift his other foot of the ground as to get all his weight on Wilson's ankle was ****ing pathetic!
If he doesnt get suspended, it's a ****ing joke. Wilson certainly had the last laugh though. Surely Martyn's last season.
wagstaff
1 Sep 2002, 21:37
Originally posted by scmods
Dermie thought it was funny, so that gives a pretty good indication...
The reaction of the commentary box to that incident today was poor to say the least. It seemed because it was a 'character' like Martyn who was involved that it was deemed amusing; admittedly Dermie does tend to like those sneaky tactics but the rest of the commentary team found it mirthful as well. There would at least have to be a query over whether that incident should be cited.
Anyway, well done to Wilson who stood up when the match was in the taking and showed up Martyn for the over-the-hill hack that he is.
I hope he gets rubbed out for stepping on his ankle, that was just downright dirty.
bunsen burner
1 Sep 2002, 21:49
Originally posted by ozzult
I hope he gets rubbed out for stepping on his ankle, that was just downright dirty. I don't know about rubbed out, but I couldn't believe Wilson didn't get 50. The umpires were atrocious today.
GoEagles
2 Sep 2002, 01:56
Full credit to Porno Wilson for not getting sucked into Micky's mind games (pushing and shoving and groping in the 1st quarter). In the past (at WAFL level) Wilson would have given Martyn something to think about (Knuckle Sandwich w/o Mayo) but he just stood his ground and concentrated on the game.
Voice of Reason
2 Sep 2002, 12:16
Martyn reminded me of Montgomery Burns today - pummelling Wilson from start to finish to absolutely no effect. Wilson just stood there and ignored him. Instead of Dermie's giggling, they should have had a thought bubble with Willo thinking "what is this old has-been doing?".
The umpires failure to give 50 on several occasions was deplorable considering the softies of Kerr and Matera.
But we still beat all 25 of them, so suffer.
i don't think that any reports should come of MMs actions but a fifty at the start of the incedents would have stopped all of that
Originally posted by noodle
i don't think that any reports should come of MMs actions but a fifty at the start of the incedents would have stopped all of that
Sureley it's to do with public perception of what is allowable in the game. IMO trying to injure a player by standing on his foot whilst he is on the ground for 7 seconds is deplorable. 2 weeks minimum for that otherwise kids playing footy get the message that it's okay to do that.........and hear toe rags like Dermie actually encouraging it.
Voice of Reason
2 Sep 2002, 13:34
Originally posted by Frodo
Sureley it's to do with public perception of what is allowable in the game. IMO trying to injure a player by standing on his foot whilst he is on the ground for 7 seconds is deplorable. 2 weeks minimum for that otherwise kids playing footy get the message that it's okay to do that.........and hear toe rags like Dermie actually encouraging it.
Exactly - Nathan Brown gets a $5,000 fine for a gesture. Where's the justice? Where's the harm? The standing on ankle was a particularly low act and obviously deliberate. Very nasty.
And - the Eagles won. Did I mention that?
I HOPE HE GETS REPORTED AND MISSES FINALS ACTION THIS YEAR! The prick wouldnt even shake Steamrollers hand at the end of the match. He stormed off..bloody asshole!
I gotta admit, i agree with you all. Martyn wasn't what he used to be, but we have got a lack of decent tall defenders. Watt is crap, and McCartney needs to be in the side. Macca from what i remember even kept Wilson to 1 or 2 goals earlier without any of Micks niggling. If Mick retires like i expect him to, it would be Colby at chb and Macca at fb. Surprised Micks hammies have lasted so long too, i spose he realises he isn't as fast as before so he is resorting to other tactics. Ash McIntosh is kinda past it himself and he doesn't seem to use any 'Martyn tactics'Oh well, it's typical Mick isn't it?
But on a lighter note, i offer you my sincere congratulations over your win against us at Manuka Oval :). You have had a good first season under Worsfold and are to be congratulated, even if you did miss out on the finals. Good luck in the finals, and you owe us one for letting youi in ;).
goal_umpire
2 Sep 2002, 15:01
Mick Martyn is the biggest undisiplined player that I have seen. Last week he should of been reported and suspended for punching Thompson in the guts.
Myee8,
Go down to the club and have a word to Mick and tell him to settle down
Mick Martyn is the biggest undisiplined player that I have seen. Last week he should of been reported and suspended for punching Thompson in the guts.
Myee8,
Go down to the club and have a word to Mick and tell him to settle down
No can do, i live in WA. Besides i won't go even if i lived on Arden Street coz why should i just because you didn't like Mick getting the hair of one of your Hawk pretty boys out of place?
USAEagle
2 Sep 2002, 15:27
Posted By Suzi_Olsen
Mick Martyn is the biggest undisiplined player that I have seen. Last week he should of been reported and....
Suzi....
It is "...should HAVE been reported...":D
Originally posted by Voice of Reason
Martyn reminded me of Montgomery Burns today - pummelling Wilson from start to finish to absolutely no effect.
lol
Wilson: Umm, sir, what are you doing?
Monty/Martyn: I'm giving you the beating of a LIFETIME!!'
carneagles
2 Sep 2002, 17:33
One of the guys here just said that he thought that Wilson should have gotten a 50m penalty for the Martyn ankle incident because ...
... wait for it ...
... he was standing over the mark!
Originally posted by carneagles
One of the guys here just said that he thought that Wilson should have gotten a 50m penalty for the Martyn ankle incident because ...
... wait for it ...
... he was standing over the mark!
Boom tish :D
Thrawn666
3 Sep 2002, 01:25
Originally posted by myee8
Macca from what i remember even kept Wilson to 1 or 2 goals earlier without any of Micks niggling.
During the game I was trying to remember the last bloke that tried to niggle Wilson, and it finally clicked. McCartney took exactly the same approach with Wilson, though not as feisty mind you. He spent the whole game with his forearm across Wilson's chest, with a little bit of push and shove now and then for good measure. He did actually provoke a response though, unlike Mick, as Wilson returned the affection by caressing his pectorals much to the delight of the Subi crowd.
In essence though I dont think the niggle was a factor in McCartney keeping Willo quiet, I think it was more to do with the fact he had more pace than old man Martyn, and just generally played him a lot better.
During the game I was trying to remember the last bloke that tried to niggle Wilson, and it finally clicked. McCartney took exactly the same approach with Wilson, though not as feisty mind you. He spent the whole game with his forearm across Wilson's chest, with a little bit of push and shove now and then for good measure. He did actually provoke a response though, unlike Mick, as Wilson returned the affection by caressing his pectorals much to the delight of the Subi crowd.
In essence though I dont think the niggle was a factor in McCartney keeping Willo quiet, I think it was more to do with the fact he had more pace than old man Martyn, and just generally played him a lot better.
Kinda thinking the same too, goes to show that 'standover' tactics don't work all the time. And it amkes you wonder why Pagan bought in Shannon Watt instead of Macca. :confused: I gotta admit thou, good on Wilson for not reacting and letting his footy do the talking.
Contra Mundum
3 Sep 2002, 12:44
I am a North supporter who lives in Victoria but I was born and raised in WA and watching the once mighty swans at Basso in WAFL in the 70's and 80's.
The Wilson/Martyn duel was just a seventies throw back. Hard at it , crash the pack Full Forward against Niggling old style full back -Simple as that.
I love to see Troy Boy play though !
NorthBhoy
3 Sep 2002, 15:40
Originally posted by wagstaff
Anyway, well done to Wilson who stood up when the match was in the taking and showed up Martyn for the over-the-hill hack that he is.
Line the careers up against each other sunshine.
Troy ***** Who?
I love when fans do this. Did you ever see John Worsfold play footy? Or was all that acceptable because he wore the right colours?
I make a point to never bag an opposition player who might bend the rules, becasue you can be sure you have cheered on the same type, and have been amused when your team was dishing it out.
Either come out and state that no West Caost player has ever performed a questionable deed on the footy field, or shut up.
Cannot have it both ways people.
I loved the way Worsfold played! I remember that bump on Dermie, he cartwheeled and his legs turned into jelly. Others i remember include wrestling with Buddha Hocking and giving Mick McGuane (was it him?) sh*t when he dropped that mark in the dying moments of the game. Our very own Macca was playing for the Pies then!
daddy_4_eyes
3 Sep 2002, 15:53
Originally posted by NorthBhoy
Line the careers up against each other sunshine.
Troy ***** Who?
I love when fans do this. Did you ever see John Worsfold play footy? Or was all that acceptable because he wore the right colours?
I make a point to never bag an opposition player who might bend the rules, becasue you can be sure you have cheered on the same type, and have been amused when your team was dishing it out.
Either come out and state that no West Caost player has ever performed a questionable deed on the footy field, or shut up.
Cannot have it both ways people.
Difference is, Woosha was hard at it fairly, like Pickett is. He shirt-fronted people, tackled hard and ran in straight lines. Martyn's only intention was to injure Wilson, legally or not.
None of us are denying Martyn has had a great career, but what he did on Sunday was low. Even from before the first bounce he was hitting Wilson and pushing him around. I mean seriously, what was he trying to do?
Exactly nothing Woosha did was dirty like Martyn. Woosha was simply hard at the ball!
NorthBhoy
3 Sep 2002, 16:04
Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
Difference is, Woosha was hard at it fairly, like Pickett is. He shirt-fronted people, tackled hard and ran in straight lines. Martyn's only intention was to injure Wilson, legally or not.
None of us are denying Martyn has had a great career, but what he did on Sunday was low. Even from before the first bounce he was hitting Wilson and pushing him around. I mean seriously, what was he trying to do?
Woosha was great. He was hard at it, like Mick is.
I also saw John Worsfold crack Carey's rib with a filthy rabbit punch after he had taken a mark, and was on the way down. I have the tape if you like. The jumpers were swapped in this case, and you are all up in arms. ****es me off actually.
Chris Lewis bit a bloke for christs sake.
Open your eyes. You all seem pretty cluey, but the hypocrisy is ridiculous.
Who remembers the right hooks Gardiner gave Pavlich in that demolition derby? Even though i am a North member, i so wanted to be at that derby. The punches weren't as good as the ones Gordon Tallis gave that pommy bloke, but they were still good! :D
daddy_4_eyes
3 Sep 2002, 16:09
Originally posted by NorthBhoy
Chris Lewis bit a bloke for christs sake.
Open your eyes. You all seem pretty cluey, but the hypocrisy is ridiculous.
I don't think anyone -- not even Chris himself -- have ever defended that.
Speaking of opening your eyes, how can you condone what Martyn was doing on Sunday? Even the most one-eyed supporter must realise that that is not part of the game?
Also remember Woosha taking out Glenn Archer at half back at Subiaco Oval (Subi Side). Now if any of you can remember that you would have to say that only one person, Arch had eyes for the ball. It was right at the end of your great leaders career when he had little to offer at either end of the ground. Wake up to yourselves Eagles fans. Also I hear no talk of the Matera incident on Sinclair. I do believe that on A Lynch from Brisbane got two weeks for something similar??
NorthBhoy
3 Sep 2002, 16:23
Originally posted by daddy_4_eyes
I don't think anyone -- not even Chris himself -- have ever defended that.
Speaking of opening your eyes, how can you condone what Martyn was doing on Sunday? Even the most one-eyed supporter must realise that that is not part of the game?
Of course he hasn't defended it. Bit hard to, no pun intended (well maybe a little bit ;) ).
What Mick did was ordinary, but is he any more of a mongrel or a thug than Lewis? Doubt it.
I had no problems with the majority of what Worsfold did, and I will not judge a bloke on a few incidents which were filthy, because IMO, he did what he had to do. I Loved Woosha.
I just find it hard to believe that this thread can be filled with name calling etc, when you have followed a team who had had it's fair share of blokes who have done much worse.
GoEagles
3 Sep 2002, 16:24
Originally posted by NorthBhoy
Chris Lewis bit a bloke for christs sake.
Indeed he did. . .after being racially vilified (sp).
If Todd Viney did that in 2002 he probably would have received the same punishment as Lewis got (3 weeks?)
NorthBhoy
3 Sep 2002, 16:27
Originally posted by GoEagles
Indeed he did. . .after being racially vilified (sp).
If Todd Viney did that in 2002 he probably would have received the same punishment as Lewis got (3 weeks?)
Wrong example if that was the case.
He still shouldn't have bit him. Knock his teeth out, and maybe kick his uncontious head in, but not bite him.
Seems like we have got Martyn and Pickett; WC have got Worsfold and Lewis; Saints have Lockett, Geelong have Ablett, Essendon have Wallis, Hardwick, MJohnson; Carlton had Rhys-Jones. If you have seen that Biffs, Bumps, and Brawlers video, you will find out most if not all clubs had their fair share of thugs.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NorthBhoy
[B]
Either come out and state that no West Caost player has ever performed a questionable deed on the footy field, or shut up.
The shut up faction must belong to the we do not mention matera's elbow to the back of sinclair's head.
hotham
Originally posted by hotham
[QUOTE]Originally posted by NorthBhoy
[B]
Either come out and state that no West Caost player has ever performed a questionable deed on the footy field, or shut up.
The shut up faction must belong to the we do not mention matera's elbow to the back of sinclair's head.
hotham
Umm, as far I saw, Sinclair spent about a minute hanging onto Matera's jumper and pulling him back when he tried to run. The elbow was certainly not legal, but compare those circumstances to a d*ckhead old fart trying to break a player's ankle because they're too good for him.
Hey,leave Mick alone.According to todays HUN,he's the 3rd sexiest player in the AFL. :eek:
Most of his votes came from men. :eek:
NorthBhoy
3 Sep 2002, 17:02
Originally posted by Mead
Umm, as far I saw, Sinclair spent about a minute hanging onto Matera's jumper and pulling him back when he tried to run. The elbow was certainly not legal, but compare those circumstances to a d*ckhead old fart trying to break a player's ankle because they're too good for him.
I don't think Matera's action was that bad.
Too good for him on the day, yes.
Mentioned in the same breath, in the same conversation, on the same planet? Not bloody likely.
Goldenblue
3 Sep 2002, 17:35
Originally posted by myee8
I loved the way Worsfold played! I remember that bump on Dermie, he cartwheeled and his legs turned into jelly. Others i remember include wrestling with Buddha Hocking and giving Mick McGuane (was it him?) sh*t when he dropped that mark in the dying moments of the game. Our very own Macca was playing for the Pies then!
The best he ever did was against Modra. Eyes for the ball only, he took on the challenge without a whimper. Modra was never the same player again.
Woosha is a champ, a legend and a heart and soul of the club. Some of those who despise him would loved to have him play in their side.
The best he ever did was against Modra. Eyes for the ball only, he took on the challenge without a whimper. Modra was never the same player again.
Woosha is a champ, a legend and a heart and soul of the club. Some of those who despise him would loved to have him play in their side.
I for one would have liked him to play for us alongside the likes of Archer, Pickett, Stevo, Pike, Carey and flavour of the month at WC Mick!
Krispy21
4 Sep 2002, 13:28
The best he ever did was against Modra. Eyes for the ball only, he took on the challenge without a whimper. Modra was never the same player again.
Have you seen the shot by shot photos at SuperStars and Legends.
I have to get me one
Goldenblue
4 Sep 2002, 13:49
Originally posted by Krispy21
Have you seen the shot by shot photos at SuperStars and Legends.
I have to get me one
Yup.
But the best picture I have seen is the one of Woosha flying like superman knocking over Mitchell White in the process.
The picture is in the WCE bible: Soaring.
Mr Eagle
4 Sep 2002, 17:38
Originally posted by NorthBhoy
I love when fans do this. Did you ever see John Worsfold play footy? Or was all that acceptable because he wore the right colours?
It's perfectly acceptable when it's your own team!!!
It's like a Bernard Woolley quote:
Our player is a tough, uncompromising champ.
Your player is an unskilled thug.
Their player is a disgrace to the league.
;)
NorthBhoy
4 Sep 2002, 19:50
Originally posted by Mr Eagle
It's perfectly acceptable when it's your own team!!!
It's like a Bernard Woolley quote:
Our player is a tough, uncompromising champ.
Your player is a unskilled thug.
Their player is a disgrace to the league.
;)
Taken a day or so, but someone summed it up.
Onya Mr Eagle, and I agree BTW.