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With all this talk of where will finish, i thought I would just put a fixture of who we are still to play in the last 8 rounds, and possible outcomes, not for the finals chances, cause we wont make them, but for the where we will finish (Draft time), here it goes.
15 Brisbane Gabba - Tough game, but 3 on trot, tails up, LOSS
16 Richmond MCG - should win, better structure team, WIN
17 Collingwood MCG - Big game, no matter what ladder says, WIN
18 Melbourne MCG - Should win against cellar dweller, WIN
19 West Coast Subico - Tough game, Won against Frem, WIN
20 Adelaide TD - Too tough on the road, LOSS
21 Western Bulldogs TD - Top of ladder, sho us where we are at, LOSS
22 St.Kilda TD - Depends where their (ST's) season is at, LOSS
the lasr game is an interesting one, if they are still in the finals race then they shouldbeat us, throwing everything they have at us, I think we have a very good chance against some of the bigger teams suchs as collingwood and Richmond, big games are almost always a good game,
Tough games also against WC on the road and Adelaide, but who knows what can happen,
On a last note, Hurley will not come not come to Essendon come draft time, we may finish between 8th - 12th, maybe, but unrealisticly not.
thoughts on the run home.....??
BomberAce7
12 Jul 2008, 11:48
With all this talk of where will finish, i thought I would just put a fixture of who we are still to play in the last 8 rounds, and possible outcomes, not for the finals chances, cause we wont make them, but for the where we will finish (Draft time), here it goes.
15 Brisbane Gabba - Tough game, but 3 on trot, tails up, LOSS
16 Richmond MCG - should win, better structure team, WIN
17 Collingwood MCG - Big game, no matter what ladder says, WIN
18 Melbourne MCG - Should win against cellar dweller, WIN
19 West Coast Subico - Tough game, Won against Frem, WIN
20 Adelaide TD - Too tough on the road, LOSS
21 Western Bulldogs TD - Top of ladder, sho us where we are at, LOSS
22 St.Kilda TD - Depends where their (ST's) season is at, LOSS
the lasr game is an interesting one, if they are still in the finals race then they shouldbeat us, throwing everything they have at us, I think we have a very good chance against some of the bigger teams suchs as collingwood and Richmond, big games are almost always a good game,
Tough games also against WC on the road and Adelaide, but who knows what can happen,
On a last note, Hurley will not come not come to Essendon come draft time, we may finish between 8th - 12th, maybe, but unrealisticly not.
thoughts on the run home.....??
20 Adelaide TD - Too tough on the road, LOSS??? Its our home game! Adelaide have never beaten us in Melbourne. On their current form the trend will continue.
The Dustbin
12 Jul 2008, 11:53
I hope we can win at least 4 of our remaining games. That would be a great first year result for Knights and a great platform to build 09 on. :thumbsu:
S.C[BANKS]
12 Jul 2008, 13:26
15 Brisbane Gabba - Tough game, but 3 on trot, tails up, LOSS
It's on the Dome not Gabba :p
OzBomber
12 Jul 2008, 13:56
20 Adelaide TD - Too tough on the road, LOSS
On the road? Telstra Dome is in Melbourne. ;)
But I think we can win that game, considering we only lost to them over there by 5 points.
Hirdismyhero
12 Jul 2008, 15:15
15 Brisbane, TD - Tough game indeed, but we've had the better of them recently. WIN
16 Richmond MCG - Should knock them off with 4 in a row. WIN
17 Collingwood MCG - Haven't beaten us twice in a season on many occassions, WIN
18 Melbourne MCG - Should win against cellar dweller, WIN
19 West Coast Subiaco - WIN.
20 Adelaide TD - Home game, they've never beaten us here. WIN
21 Western Bulldogs TD - Close game, but Bulldogs too strong in final quarter, LOSS
22 St.Kilda TD - Injury to 3 of their key players makes us favourites and we win by 19 points. WIN
Maybe I'm being a little wishful. :)
12 wins wouldn't be looked down upon, however.
The Dustbin
12 Jul 2008, 16:46
Injuries to key Adelaide players (Burton & Porplyzia) will be a massive advantage for us.
Windas_Magic
12 Jul 2008, 16:51
Injuries to key Adelaide players (Burton & Porplyzia) will be a massive advantage for us.
I heard Burton may have done an ACL but what happened with Porplyzia?
I heard Burton may have done an ACL but what happened with Porplyzia?
Dislocated shoulder.
It has given him trouble most of the year.
Not a Wellman
12 Jul 2008, 16:58
For me you have everything right except bris ade and stk imo we will win those games and we won't beat collingwood they are serious top 4 contenders and could beat anyone on their day.
Dude_01
12 Jul 2008, 22:30
With all this talk of where will finish, i thought I would just put a fixture of who we are still to play in the last 8 rounds, and possible outcomes, not for the finals chances, cause we wont make them, but for the where we will finish (Draft time), here it goes.
15 Brisbane Gabba - Tough game, but 3 on trot, tails up, LOSS
16 Richmond MCG - should win, better structure team, WIN
17 Collingwood MCG - Big game, no matter what ladder says, WIN
18 Melbourne MCG - Should win against cellar dweller, WIN
19 West Coast Subico - Tough game, Won against Frem, WIN
20 Adelaide TD - Too tough on the road, LOSS
21 Western Bulldogs TD - Top of ladder, sho us where we are at, LOSS
22 St.Kilda TD - Depends where their (ST's) season is at, LOSS
the lasr game is an interesting one, if they are still in the finals race then they shouldbeat us, throwing everything they have at us, I think we have a very good chance against some of the bigger teams suchs as collingwood and Richmond, big games are almost always a good game,
Tough games also against WC on the road and Adelaide, but who knows what can happen,
On a last note, Hurley will not come not come to Essendon come draft time, we may finish between 8th - 12th, maybe, but unrealisticly not.
thoughts on the run home.....??
first tip was wrong :P
AndyLesPaul
12 Jul 2008, 22:43
15 Brisbane Gabba - Tough game, but 3 on trot, tails up, Win
16 Richmond MCG - should win, better structure team, WIN
17 Collingwood MCG - Big game, no matter what ladder says, WIN
18 Melbourne MCG - Should win against cellar dweller, WIN
19 West Coast Subico - Tough game, Won against Frem, WIN
20 Adelaide TD - Too tough on the road,WIN
21 Western Bulldogs TD - Top of ladder, sho us where we are at, LOSS
22 St.Kilda TD - Depends where their (ST's) season is at, WIN
if we win those
thats puts us at 12 wins.
that would put us in finals surely.
and hopefully.
danzan22
12 Jul 2008, 22:54
Round 21 will hopefuly be a revenge for 2000 game, ruin there hopes for top 2.
B-Bomber
12 Jul 2008, 23:00
Round 21 will hopefuly be a revenge for 2000 game, ruin there hopes for top 2.
Looking forward to that game -- Nothing to lose but we could pinch it if we play like we did against them earlier in the season, but still have a bench to speak of come 3 qtr time.
OzBomber
12 Jul 2008, 23:01
The one thing we have going against us though is our percentage. It's only 82.1.
Looking forward to that game -- Nothing to lose but we could pinch it if we play like we did against them earlier in the season, but still have a bench to speak of come 3 qtr time.
I still believe we would of won had those injuries not come.
as I posted in earlier thread.. by using a ladder predictor.. there is a good chance that 11 wins will take 8th spot.. even 10 on some permetations.. that basically leaves the simple math that we can only afford to lose 1 match maybe 2.. and the games that we could lose: collingwood, adelaide, doggies and st kilda.. so if we came out with 3/1 or even 2/2 from those four I have always maintained we are a solid chance..
5/7 = Only if we thrash some teams on the way.
6/7 = Will get us 8th
Wont make it with 10 wins IMO.
gloryandfame
13 Jul 2008, 01:36
I'm probably being a bit optimistic but assuming we lose to collingwood and the bulldogs and the saints lose a few the winner of our game against St Kilda could make the eight and the loser finish 9th. (According to ladder predictor)
BomberGal
13 Jul 2008, 01:41
Round 21 will hopefuly be a revenge for 2000 game, ruin there hopes for top 2.
Revenge for one game 8 years ago because we lost?
You need a new hobby. ;)
danzan22
13 Jul 2008, 01:45
Revenge for one game 8 years ago because we lost?
You need a new hobby. ;)
Think of it this way, Wallace implemented the flood that day, a parasite on todays game and worst of all it beat us, i want revenge :p
BomberGal
13 Jul 2008, 02:02
Think of it this way, Wallace implemented the flood that day, a parasite on todays game and worst of all it beat us, i want revenge :p
So take it out on Wallace. Not on a good, young team like the Dogs! We just weren't good enough that night, I don't really think you should still be looking for someone to blame for an insignificant match nearly a decade on.
Not to mention Essendon used the flood regularly in 2000...
Bomber57
13 Jul 2008, 09:48
Round 20 in the eight, but will we stay there.
AndyLesPaul
13 Jul 2008, 10:54
Were a fairly decent chance to win all the remaining games,
even western bulldogs, because we didnt have lloyd and lucas, we were a chance for the whole game until McVeigh and lonergan got injured.
I think we have every indication of beating nearly any team, apart from maybe top 3 teams, we can beat collingwood, we have a better structure, more goal kicking options, the best ruckmen in the comp and one of the better younger sides in the comp up and about, as for the bulldogs, we were with them until mcveigh went down last time, along with the improved development of our kids, Jetta, Houli (Back in), Lonergan these types we may just be able to beat them at theor own game, run and carry, kick long to leading forwards. Wishful thinking maybe but, who knows, Pies 16th 3 years ago beat WCE top of ladder that year, anything can happen in todays football.
I think we're more chance of beating the Dogs then we are of beating the Pies
I think we're more chance of beating the Dogs then we are of beating the Pies
you'd be surprised though. big teams, big stage, both teams up and about, we'll wait and see.
Slattery_20
13 Jul 2008, 14:08
We worried the dogs for 2 quarters, I think that game we had a few injuries which led to the blowout last quarter
We worried the dogs for 2 quarters, I think that game we had a few injuries which led to the blowout last quarter
exactly, we may give them a better run for their money now, this game will see where we really are at, i may say, along with the saints game.
Were a fairly decent chance to win all the remaining games,
even western bulldogs, because we didnt have lloyd and lucas, we were a chance for the whole game until McVeigh and lonergan got injured.
I agree, I actually can't see you blokes losing again for the year including all finals and gf. I actually think you could even break geelongs gf record win last year!!:D
centurion
14 Jul 2008, 11:24
I agree, I actually can't see you blokes losing again for the year including all finals and gf. I actually think you could even break geelongs gf record win last year!!:D
Its not as bad as my Richmond mates thinking the Tigers will win the flag each year. It causes me to laugh so hard each time they say it. :D
Phat Toni
14 Jul 2008, 11:54
Were a fairly decent chance to win all the remaining games,
even western bulldogs, because we didnt have lloyd and lucas, we were a chance for the whole game until McVeigh and lonergan got injured.
:eek:
Love your optimism mate but lets be realistic here if we win 4 to 5 more I think we should all be happy considering where we were at between rd 6 and rd 9.
IMO
Wins:
Dees, Eagles(we are flatout better than those two teams and should win.)
Tigers (coming back from subi on essentially a five day break should win.)
Crows (we own them at TD and have a great recent record against them)
Maybe Dogs (I believe we match up well against them)
Losses:
Wobbles (their accountable style too much for the young bombers)
Kilda (will be desperate at that stage of the season)
Maybe Dogs ( Could be trying to consolidate their finals position)
So that could be 5 and 2 which gives us a 11-11 year that's a fantastic result based on the fact we have played a lot of kids.
I think we're more chance of beating the Dogs then we are of beating the Pies
i agree.
warney7
14 Jul 2008, 13:46
Richmond - They're not in great form. WIN
Collingwood - All things being equal, they should be able to cover us. LOSS
Melbourne - Not a gimme by any stretch, but as long as we stick to the task... WIN
West Coast - Absolutely no doubt in my mind. They don't want to win. WIN
Adelaide - We'll knock over the Crows here. No Burton is massive. WIN
Western Bulldogs - We might have matched them earlier in the year (before injuries), but they should dispose of us here. LOSS
StKilda - Tough game to call, may depend on injuries and lead up form. WIN/LOSS
So by that we'll win a maximum of 11 wins and given we're about 20% behind StKilda, hopefully people will stop talking about finals!
The Donners
14 Jul 2008, 16:50
So by that we'll win a maximum of 11 wins and given we're about 20% behind St Kilda, hopefully people will stop talking about finals!
St Kilda's run:
R16: v Hawthorn (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R17: v WCE (Subiaco) = WIN
R18: v PA (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R19: v Collingwood (MCG) = LOSS
R20: v Fremantle (Subiaco) = LOSS
R21: v Adelaide (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R22: v Essendon (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
Possible: 2 wins, finish with 9 wins
Nth Melbourne's run:
R16: v Collingwood (MCG) = LOSS
R17: v Melbourne (MCG) = WIN
R18: v Brisbane (Gold Coast) = LOSS
R19: v WB (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R20: v Carlton (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R21: v Geelong (Skilled Stadium) = LOSS
R22: v PA (MCG) = WIN
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 10.5 wins
Carlton's run:
R16: v Sydney (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R17: v WB (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R18: v Adelaide (AAMI) = LOSS
R19: v PA (Telstra Dome) = WINN
R20: v NM (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R21: v Brisbane (GABBA) = LOSS
R22: v Hawthorn (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
Possible: 1 win, finish with 8 wins
Brisbane's run:
R16: v WCE (GABBA) = WIN
R17: v Richmond (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R18: v NM (Gold Coast) = WIN
R19: v Hawthorn (Aurora) = LOSS
R20: v WB (GABBA) = LOSS
R21: v Carlton (GABBA) = WIN
R22: v Sydney (Sydney) = LOSS
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 11 wins
Adelaide's run:
R16: v PA (AAMI) = LOSS
R17: v Sydney (Sydney) = LOSS
R18: v Carlton (AAMI) = WIN
R19: v Richmond (AAMI) = WIN
R20: v Essendon (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R21: v St Kilda (Telstra Dome) = WINN
R22: v WB (AAMI) = LOSS
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 11 wins
Richmond's run:
R16: v Essendon (MCG) = LOSS
R17: v Brisbane (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R18: v Geelong (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R19: v Adelaide (AAMI) = LOSS
R20: v Hawthorn (MCG) = LOSS
R21: v Fremantle (MCG) = WIN
R22: v Melbourne (MCG) = WIN
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 9.5 wins
1. GEELONG
2. WESTERN BULLDOGS
3. HAWTHORN
4. COLLINGWOOD
5. SYDNEY
6. ADELAIDE
7. BRISBANE
8. ESSENDON
9. NORTH MELBOURNE
10. RICHMOND
11. ST KILDA
12. CARLTON
13. PORT ADELAIDE
14. FREMANTLE
15. WEST COAST
16. MELBOURNE
bomberz20_72
14 Jul 2008, 17:14
Love the optimism, i breathe optimism.
Don't be surprised if Richmond beat us but of course i'm tipping us.
The one thing that should give us added incentive was our terrible start against them @ dreamtime @ the G, as i'm sure we are still hurting from the performance i think we'll get over the line against them.
We have been playing out of our skins for over a month now, starting with the Crows game and a young team like us CAN sometimes put in a below par performance that seems to come out of nowhere, but Richmond coming back from WA and with 5 days to prepare will help us out no end.
v Richmond - Win 7-9
v Collingwood - Win 8-9 i genuinly believe we'll win this as the Pies are in up & down form and we do seem to win the '2nd' game against them most years.
v Melbourne - Win 9-9 we've come to far to drop this game.
v West Coast - Win 10-9 another game we could lose tho but after the freo game we believe we can win there no matter who we play and WCE are well.... Crap
v Adelaide - Win/Lose 11-9 or 10-10you can't count out Adelaide with their backs to the wall but if we've won all our other games b4 this one, our confidence will be as high as Mt Everest
v Dogs - Lose - 11-10 or 10-11they have nothing but the cup in sight and will be hard to beat i think they'll beat Geelong this week as well in a classic
v St Kilda - 12-10 or 11-11 Win and ruin their finals chance's. that should leave us with either 12 or 11 wins, if you'd said thats what we would finish on 5 weeks ago i would have taken it, I can't say if it'll put us in the 8 or not but we're to blame for a dismal 8 weeks after the Carlton game rd 3.
If we make the 8 and play say Collingwood in the first week, anythings possible...... but Thats my dream and i'm sticking to it.
AndyLesPaul
14 Jul 2008, 19:44
well first of all
collingwood arent that accountable,
saints are never that desperate for a win, did you catch the saints freo match?
and well western bulldogs have already consolidated their position
AndyLesPaul
14 Jul 2008, 19:51
St Kilda's run:
R16: v Hawthorn (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R17: v WCE (Subiaco) = WIN
R18: v PA (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R19: v Collingwood (MCG) = LOSS
R20: v Fremantle (Subiaco) = WIN
R21: v Adelaide (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R22: v Essendon (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 10 wins
Nth Melbourne's run:
R16: v Collingwood (MCG) = LOSS
R17: v Melbourne (MCG) = WIN
R18: v Brisbane (Gold Coast) = LOSS
R19: v WB (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R20: v Carlton (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R21: v Geelong (Skilled Stadium) = LOSS
R22: v PA (MCG) = WIN
Possible: 2 wins, finish with 9.5 wins
Carlton's run:
R16: v Sydney (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R17: v WB (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R18: v Adelaide (AAMI) = LOSS
R19: v PA (Telstra Dome) = WINN
R20: v NM (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R21: v Brisbane (GABBA) = LOSS
R22: v Hawthorn (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
Possible: 2 win, finish with 9 wins
Brisbane's run:
R16: v WCE (GABBA) = WIN
R17: v Richmond (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R18: v NM (Gold Coast) = WIN
R19: v Hawthorn (Aurora) = LOSS
R20: v WB (GABBA) = LOSS
R21: v Carlton (GABBA) = WIN
R22: v Sydney (Sydney) = LOSS
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 11 wins
Adelaide's run:
R16: v PA (AAMI) = LOSS
R17: v Sydney (Sydney) = LOSS
R18: v Carlton (AAMI) = WIN
R19: v Richmond (AAMI) = WIN
R20: v Essendon (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R21: v St Kilda (Telstra Dome) = WINN
R22: v WB (AAMI) = LOSS
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 11 wins
Richmond's run:
R16: v Essendon (MCG) = LOSS
R17: v Brisbane (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R18: v Geelong (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R19: v Adelaide (AAMI) = LOSS
R20: v Hawthorn (MCG) = LOSS
R21: v Fremantle (MCG) = WIN
R22: v Melbourne (MCG) = WIN
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 9.5 wins
Essendon's Run:
R16: v Richmond (MCG) = WIN
R17: v Collingwood (MCG) = hopefully.
R18: v Melbourne (MCG) = WIN
R19: v West Coast (Subi) = WIN
R20: v Adelaide (TD) = WIN
R21: v Western Bulldogs (TD) = hopefully we will miraculously win, but LOSS
R22: v Saints = WIN
Possible: 5-6 wins, finish with 11-12 wins.
warney7
14 Jul 2008, 20:02
St Kilda's run:
R16: v Hawthorn (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R17: v WCE (Subiaco) = WIN
R18: v PA (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R19: v Collingwood (MCG) = LOSS
R20: v Fremantle (Subiaco) = LOSS
R21: v Adelaide (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R22: v Essendon (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
Possible: 2 wins, finish with 9 wins
Nth Melbourne's run:
R16: v Collingwood (MCG) = LOSS
R17: v Melbourne (MCG) = WIN
R18: v Brisbane (Gold Coast) = LOSS
R19: v WB (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R20: v Carlton (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R21: v Geelong (Skilled Stadium) = LOSS
R22: v PA (MCG) = WIN
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 10.5 wins
Carlton's run:
R16: v Sydney (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R17: v WB (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R18: v Adelaide (AAMI) = LOSS
R19: v PA (Telstra Dome) = WINN
R20: v NM (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R21: v Brisbane (GABBA) = LOSS
R22: v Hawthorn (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
Possible: 1 win, finish with 8 wins
Brisbane's run:
R16: v WCE (GABBA) = WIN
R17: v Richmond (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R18: v NM (Gold Coast) = WIN
R19: v Hawthorn (Aurora) = LOSS
R20: v WB (GABBA) = LOSS
R21: v Carlton (GABBA) = WIN
R22: v Sydney (Sydney) = LOSS
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 11 wins
Adelaide's run:
R16: v PA (AAMI) = LOSS
R17: v Sydney (Sydney) = LOSS
R18: v Carlton (AAMI) = WIN
R19: v Richmond (AAMI) = WIN
R20: v Essendon (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R21: v St Kilda (Telstra Dome) = WINN
R22: v WB (AAMI) = LOSS
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 11 wins
Richmond's run:
R16: v Essendon (MCG) = LOSS
R17: v Brisbane (Telstra Dome) = WIN
R18: v Geelong (Telstra Dome) = LOSS
R19: v Adelaide (AAMI) = LOSS
R20: v Hawthorn (MCG) = LOSS
R21: v Fremantle (MCG) = WIN
R22: v Melbourne (MCG) = WIN
Possible: 3 wins, finish with 9.5 wins
1. GEELONG
2. WESTERN BULLDOGS
3. HAWTHORN
4. COLLINGWOOD
5. SYDNEY
6. ADELAIDE
7. BRISBANE
8. ESSENDON
9. NORTH MELBOURNE
10. RICHMOND
11. ST KILDA
12. CARLTON
13. PORT ADELAIDE
14. FREMANTLE
15. WEST COAST
16. MELBOURNE
Excellent.
Just tell me, you have 120 tips so far do you? :cool:
I reckon that R22 is going to be the decider.. that is going to be massive it this happens.
The Donners
15 Jul 2008, 10:27
Excellent.
Just tell me, you have 120 tips so far do you? :cool:
Until it is beyond the realms of possibility........
magpies10
15 Jul 2008, 18:06
15 Brisbane, TD - Tough game indeed, but we've had the better of them recently. WIN
16 Richmond MCG - Should knock them off with 4 in a row. WIN
17 Collingwood MCG - Haven't beaten us twice in a season on many occassions, WIN
18 Melbourne MCG - Should win against cellar dweller, WIN
19 West Coast Subiaco - WIN.
20 Adelaide TD - Home game, they've never beaten us here. WIN
21 Western Bulldogs TD - Close game, but Bulldogs too strong in final quarter, LOSS
22 St.Kilda TD - Injury to 3 of their key players makes us favourites and we win by 19 points. WIN
Maybe I'm being a little wishful. :)
12 wins wouldn't be looked down upon, however.
Haha last year ring a bell?
Tiger Battler
15 Jul 2008, 20:24
Everyone has a go at the Richmond supporters for being to optimistic but the fact that all you Essendon supporters think that you are going to win 5/6 for the rest of the season is only worthy of being laughed at.
I would be surprised if you were able to get 4 more wins.
If we did make the 8 it would be a great experience for all the younger players to play finals.
jacko_boy
16 Jul 2008, 12:37
R16 v Richmond - we should have the pace and in form forward line to beat them WIN
R17 v Collingwood - if we beat richmond and dont lose key players we should beat them WIN
R18 v Melbourne - will win easy WIN
R19 v West Coast - over there if we beat richmond, pies and dees then that will make it 7 in a row so we should make it 8 against the eagles WIN
R20 v Adelaide - over here adelaide have no forward line without burton WIN
R21 v Western Bulldogs - no chance LOSS
R22 v St Kilda - don't want them to have to win this game for finals spot if they have finals spot guarenteed we should win WIN
jacko_boy
16 Jul 2008, 12:38
Everyone has a go at the Richmond supporters for being to optimistic but the fact that all you Essendon supporters think that you are going to win 5/6 for the rest of the season is only worthy of being laughed at.
I would be surprised if you were able to get 4 more wins.
we'll see what happens this weekend
Dunn - Well Done
16 Jul 2008, 12:57
All we need to do is to beat the teams that are beatable and beat Stkilda at the end to finish 8th.
Carlton and Roos have a tough draw and we should finish ahead of them.
Saints have a toughinsh draw compared to us and i feel if we beat them in round 22 then we may play finals. Not a good chance though M.Lloyd said.
Adelaide - win
Melbourne - win
WCE - win
Richmond - winnable
Collingwood - winnable
Stkilda - winnable
Buldogs - loss
We need to win 2 of the 3 that are winnable. This will give us 5 wins at of our last 7.
Going to be really hard without McVeigh in the side.
FOOT OF GOD
16 Jul 2008, 13:50
I think we have every indication of beating nearly any team, apart from maybe top 3 teams, we can beat collingwood, we have a better structure, more goal kicking options, the best ruckmen in the comp and one of the better younger sides in the comp up and about, as for the bulldogs, we were with them until mcveigh went down last time, along with the improved development of our kids, Jetta, Houli (Back in), Lonergan these types we may just be able to beat them at theor own game, run and carry, kick long to leading forwards. Wishful thinking maybe but, who knows, Pies 16th 3 years ago beat WCE top of ladder that year, anything can happen in todays football.
I dont know if this has been said didnt read any more of this thread but you are off your head if you think you have more scoring options then us give me a break?
FOOT OF GOD
16 Jul 2008, 14:17
Ok I read the thread.................. YOU ARE ALL CRAZY....:o
magpies10
16 Jul 2008, 16:48
I think we have every indication of beating nearly any team, apart from maybe top 3 teams, we can beat collingwood, we have a better structure, more goal kicking options, the best ruckmen in the comp and one of the better younger sides in the comp up and about, as for the bulldogs, we were with them until mcveigh went down last time, along with the improved development of our kids, Jetta, Houli (Back in), Lonergan these types we may just be able to beat them at theor own game, run and carry, kick long to leading forwards. Wishful thinking maybe but, who knows, Pies 16th 3 years ago beat WCE top of ladder that year, anything can happen in todays football.
1. Better structure, gee running one way only works sometimes.
2. Lloyd and Lucas are not more options than Cloke, Medhurst, Davis, Thomas, Didak, Anthony, with Reid Rocca and Rusling still out you do not have us in that department, hence the fact we are 4th in points for and you guys 8th.
3. Rucks well you have us there
4. Our youngsters are easily more developed and quite frankly better than your guys, players like Pendlebury, Thomas, Cloke, Clarke, Brown, Wellingham, Anthony, Reid, all 21 or under. The 4 highlighted have shown they are better than any of your young players to this stage.
magpies10
16 Jul 2008, 16:54
Love the optimism, i breathe optimism.
Don't be surprised if Richmond beat us but of course i'm tipping us.
The one thing that should give us added incentive was our terrible start against them @ dreamtime @ the G, as i'm sure we are still hurting from the performance i think we'll get over the line against them.
We have been playing out of our skins for over a month now, starting with the Crows game and a young team like us CAN sometimes put in a below par performance that seems to come out of nowhere, but Richmond coming back from WA and with 5 days to prepare will help us out no end.
v Richmond - Win 7-9
v Collingwood - Win 8-9 i genuinly believe we'll win this as the Pies are in up & down form and we do seem to win the '2nd' game against them most years.
v Melbourne - Win 9-9 we've come to far to drop this game.
v West Coast - Win 10-9 another game we could lose tho but after the freo game we believe we can win there no matter who we play and WCE are well.... Crap
v Adelaide - Win/Lose 11-9 or 10-10you can't count out Adelaide with their backs to the wall but if we've won all our other games b4 this one, our confidence will be as high as Mt Everest
v Dogs - Lose - 11-10 or 10-11they have nothing but the cup in sight and will be hard to beat i think they'll beat Geelong this week as well in a classic
v St Kilda - 12-10 or 11-11 Win and ruin their finals chance's. that should leave us with either 12 or 11 wins, if you'd said thats what we would finish on 5 weeks ago i would have taken it, I can't say if it'll put us in the 8 or not but we're to blame for a dismal 8 weeks after the Carlton game rd 3.
If we make the 8 and play say Collingwood in the first week, anythings possible...... but Thats my dream and i'm sticking to it.
Won 6 out of our last 8 and were 4 goals up in both losses, probably would have beaten the dogs if Rocca and Reid did not get injured, which is hardly up and down
The Donners
17 Jul 2008, 16:47
1. Better structure, gee running one way only works sometimes.
2. Lloyd and Lucas are not more options than Cloke, Medhurst, Davis, Thomas, Didak, Anthony, with Reid Rocca and Rusling still out you do not have us in that department, hence the fact we are 4th in points for and you guys 8th.
3. Rucks well you have us there
4. Our youngsters are easily more developed and quite frankly better than your guys, players like Pendlebury, Thomas, Cloke, Clarke, Brown, Wellingham, Anthony, Reid, all 21 or under. The 4 highlighted have shown they are better than any of your young players to this stage.
Pendlebury is a gun but has virtually done FA this season apart from a standout performance against the Dons. Thomas does FA every week yet does the miraculous maybe once or twice during a game, hardly reliable. Cloke has probably played 3 good games this season. Clarke, meh, no football smarts just a hard working small defender.
Reimers, Lonergan, Monfries, Myers, Jetta, Houli, Ryder and Slattery. They get the job done without trying to look like a showboat i.e. Thomas.
We've won 4 in a row on the back of our youngsters performing.
Collingwood's forward options: Cloke, Medhurst, Didak, Davis, Thomas, Anthony, Reid and Rocca.
Essendon's forward options: Lloyd, Lucas, Monfries, Mcphee, Stanton, Neagle, McVeigh, Hille, Lovett and Jetta. If you're going to count 3 blokes that won't do anything this season (Anthony, Reid and Rocca) then I'll add Davey, Lonergan and Reimers as other likely goalkickers.
Pendlebury is a gun but has virtually done FA this season apart from a standout performance against the Dons. Thomas does FA every week yet does the miraculous maybe once or twice during a game, hardly reliable. Cloke has probably played 3 good games this season. Clarke, meh, no football smarts just a hard working small defender.
Hate to admit it but those four would be better then our young kids this year.
Pendlebury has stepped up this year, as has Marty Clarke. He looks to be a gem.
Cloke hasn't progressed as much as i would of thought but he is a young KPP. If you compare him to someone like Gumby or Neagle then you can notice a difference (i know he is a couple of years older)
Thomas does to the miraculous but why are you pointing that as a negative?? He would be averaging 15 touches a game plus a goal so no one would be complaining.
Our best kids are Lonergan (who would be around the same age as Pendelbury/Thomas) Houli etc. The pies boys have played plenty more games and have had a bigger influence. I know Lonergan has been good but he hasn't ever been in the best.
The Donners
17 Jul 2008, 17:14
I know Lonergan has been good but he hasn't ever been in the best.
vs Adelaide.
Apologies, I wasn't trying to suggest our young players were as good as those 4 players... although Pendlebury would be the only young player we couldn't match in terms of skill and promise... enter Gumbleton (when he finally plays). I was suggesting by weight of numbers our youngsters are better. We have, again by weight of numbers, the best youngsters in the competition... hence the sudden improvement to the team's performances over the past 6 weeks starting in Adelaide (vs Hawthorn we were only 7 points down at half time).
With regards to Thomas I was suggesting that I would prefer the reliable and consistent to the flashy and "goes missing" types.
The Donners
17 Jul 2008, 17:21
Won 6 out of our last 8 and were 4 goals up in both losses, probably would have beaten the dogs if Rocca and Reid did not get injured, which is hardly up and down
I rate Collingwood as a team but I would say their form has been up and down, win/loss ratio doesn't necessarily suggest their form isn't up and down. You lost to Carlton and looked absolutely ratshit and then the next week you guys looked like a top 4 team, I'd say that's fairly indicative of your season. Collingwood are the sleeping giants though imo and I would have thought Essendon would drop a game soon... I would hope it was against Collingwood as it is probably a game I wouldn't have expected us to win, Collingwood as I said are a great team. Good luck! :thumbsu:
If we beat the Tigers then I'd take a loss against Collingwood. If all goes to plan we will then beat the Dees and the Eagles, lose to the Dogs and then beat the Crows and the Saints... 8th spot here we come!!!