View Full Version : Draft or trade?
dougthelegend
21 Sep 2002, 14:29
Blind freddy could tell that the bombers are in desperate need of a quality ruckman for next season, but the question is - should we trade for one, and if so who should be let go. The other option is to pick up someone like Paul Johnson from the draft... but that won't go far enough to fix the short term problem.
If we draft one then they probably won't be ready for a few season's if we draft a kid. Most likely we will have to trade for one.
Unlike Robert Walls ... i believe that a ruckman is the most overrated member of a team. All you need at the stoppages is a contest. As long as they can run around the ground and knock a few big blokes out of the way, his job is done.
It is my belief that Port Adelaide will shop B.French around with Essendon being the first team they talk to.
Originally posted by Zombie
It is my belief that Port Adelaide will shop B.French around with Essendon being the first team they talk to.
What would you want for him?
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Stealth bomber
27 Sep 2002, 18:44
Ruckmen may be overrated in the media, but they are important, and Essendon still needs one. We do not need a superstar, though, just someone who is at least average, preferably above average.
I think we should trade for a second-tier ruckman who is developed, reliable, durable, and won't cost us a lot of salary-cap eating cash or premiership players in the process.
Our last two premiership ruckmen: John Barnes and Peter Somerville.
Although there was a guy before that named Madden that wasn't half bad either ;)
Maybe get Barnesy off the VB for 12 months?
Originally posted by Wally
What would you want for him?
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Either
1) A.Henneman and a draft pick or
2) D.Jacobs (We would have to throw in someone else though if we wanted Jacobs though, hows A.Kingsley aswell sound?)
Originally posted by Zombie
Either
1) A.Henneman and a draft pick or
2) D.Jacobs (We would have to throw in someone else though if we wanted Jacobs though, hows A.Kingsley aswell sound?)
Henneman maybe, D. Jacobs definietly not.
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mongrelpunt
28 Sep 2002, 23:05
There is no way in hell that I'll allow Danny Jacobs to be traded for Adam Kingsley. I'll make sure of it!:D
Stegelator
29 Sep 2002, 16:43
Originally posted by mongrelpunt
There is no way in hell that I'll allow Danny Jacobs to be traded for Adam Kingsley. I'll make sure of it!:D I would only trade Jacobs for a Francou or a Primus, or a Tredrea.
eastaugh36
29 Sep 2002, 18:16
Jacobs should nearly be untouchable !
Originally posted by Stegelator
I would only trade Jacobs for a Francou or a Primus, or a Tredrea.
I'm sure if Essendon were offered B.French and A.Kingsley for D.Jacobs they would seriously consider it.
Originally posted by Zombie
I'm sure if Essendon were offered B.French and A.Kingsley for D.Jacobs they would seriously consider it.
as a joke......
Originally posted by Dave
as a joke......
Wouldn't be so sure, I know you value your players highly and so may be a little biased, but Essendon needs Ruckmen and Midfielders but have plenty of key defenders whilst Port need a key defender and have plenty of Ruckmen and Midfielders.
French would lead the ruck and Kingsley would easily fit into the top 3 midfielders at Essendon.
Kenny_01
1 Oct 2002, 00:25
Originally posted by Zombie
Wouldn't be so sure, I know you value your players highly and so may be a little biased, but Essendon needs Ruckmen and Midfielders but have plenty of key defenders whilst Port need a key defender and have plenty of Ruckmen and Midfielders.
French would lead the ruck and Kingsley would easily fit into the top 3 midfielders at Essendon.
No-one is as biased as you, Zombie.
snakebite01
1 Oct 2002, 10:51
Do you guys want Ben Marsh?-he's got ability just hasn't shown it with the Crows and a fresh start could be good for him.
If so we'll take Caracella off your hands and we'll throw in a 2nd/3rd round draft pick for good measure.:D
eastaugh36
1 Oct 2002, 11:09
Originally posted by snakebite01
Do you guys want Ben Marsh?-he's got ability just hasn't shown it with the Crows and a fresh start could be good for him.
If so we'll take Caracella off your hands and we'll throw in a 2nd/3rd round draft pick for good measure.:D
For Caracella we would want a lot more than that.
rednugget
1 Oct 2002, 12:26
Originally posted by Zombie
French would lead the ruck and Kingsley would easily fit into the top 3 midfielders at Essendon.
Our top 3 Midfielders are J.Johnson, Peverill & Misiti you could throw Hird & Rama in the mix aswell, Kingsley ain't getting picked in the first 3 for our midfield.
Originally posted by rednugget
Our top 3 Midfielders are J.Johnson, Peverill & Misiti you could throw Hird & Rama in the mix aswell, Kingsley ain't getting picked in the first 3 for our midfield.
Ok, probably not top 3, more like top 5. Racks up about the same amount of possessions as Rama despite playing from the back pocket, he is a much better midfielder than defender but has to play defense because of the Port midfield being so strong.
IMO would flourish in a midfield like Essendons which is not a hack midfield but not a superstar one either.
bluechampion
1 Oct 2002, 16:40
Don't be fooled, Bomber fans!
On the Port section of this site, 90% of the posters can't even find a spot for Kingsley in their best 22. That said, Sheedy has always said he regretted letting Kingsley go.
How would you Bombers like a certian man called M. Allan? We'll take Henneman and pick 44-ish for him. He can play, but is injury prone.
Received this 'rumour' via email this morning:
"This comes from a reliable source from inside the Collingwood
administration. Apparently at a private gathering late on Saturday
night (after much drinking), Nathan Buckley had an altercation with Chris Tarrant and called him "weak as ****" for missing those goals in the 3rd Quarter. *Tarrant took a swing at Buckley before the scuffle was broken up by players and officials.
The next morning, Neil Balme and Eddie McGuire were called in early by Tarrant and his manager. Balme and McGuire were told that Tarrant will no longer play in the same side as Buckley and because Buckley is an "untouchable" at Collingwood, Tarrrant wants to be traded to Essendon to play with his best mate Dean Solomon!
Collingwood reckon they can do a deal - Tarrant for Caracella !!"
Pornstar
2 Oct 2002, 10:17
Don't want Tarrant, soft in the head and i don't think he plays with much heart either.
bluechampion
2 Oct 2002, 11:33
Caracella is no fair swap for Tarrant. He can win you a game, Caracella can't.