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An article in Sunday Hun said Winnie has sorted himself out.
His old man is no longer crook,
Got his fitness back up,
and is now relieved he didn't leave the roos.
Something still needs to be done to turn his career around.
How about playing him at half-back?
It worked for Dale Kickett.
Winnie would be very dangerous with some space and a ball under his arm.
Although shortish, he has the physical capability to go 1-on-1 and in the air.
His defensive skills would be a question mark, but sometimes the resposiblity to mind someone automatically brings out defensive traits.
What do you guys think?
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Carey_is_King
22 Dec 2000, 16:49
I have not seen an aboriginal player yet who was any good at minding a man. They seem to give their best when they are free to read the play and run around. That is why I think Byron Pickett would be better on the ball/in the centre.
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kymhodgemansmo
23 Dec 2000, 06:53
Too right CIK.
It is definitely a trait of aboriginal players, hoping this too unpolitically correct, but they are just no good at minding a man.
Let's get Byron in the pivot.
Cheers
I agree.
Byron should be tried in the pivot.
But I think there is room for one slightly loose player in the back half, provided he helps out defensively and then creates on the rebound.
Pretty much how Byron plays it.
So with him in the middle, perhaps Winnie can take over in the back line.
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Aussie_Roo
23 Dec 2000, 14:51
It could be a good move, I'd like to see him tried there. Pickett would be just sensational in the middle - perhaps he just needs to get fitter to enable him to run all day.
The invisible mullet
3 Jan 2001, 08:05
Well maybe the Ansett Cup might be the time to test out Byron on the ball and Winnie in the backline (although I have doubts about his accountability for half a game let alone a full one). Then again with the right attitude Winnie is still good value at half forward.
Shinboners
3 Jan 2001, 08:17
Leave Winnie in the forward line where he will do his best work. If he can get back to some of his 98/99 form, we should get about 35 to 40 goals out of him which is a good return. When he's switched on, he does work hard to keep the ball in our forward line....I don't expect him to do some bone crunching Pickett style tackles, but as long as he can put some pressure on a defender trying to get the ball out of our forward line, it will give our midfielders some chance of retrieving the ball and getting it down to Carey and his supporting cast.
I think with Winnie's pace and skill, and evasive ability, his best position would be as an attacking wingman, not dissimilar to his current role but prhaps a little further up the ground.
His assets in this position would be that he is fantastic at winning the ball in contests, and his disposal is quick and usually accurate. Playing on the wing may also encourage him to be more accountable, rather than getting lazy crumbs and kicks up forward.
Imagine Kingy on one wing and Winnie on the other, dashing up the ground and hitting Wayne on the chest, or dashing that bit further and slotting one through from on the 50.
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Shinboners
4 Jan 2001, 06:39
Originally posted by Darky:
Imagine Kingy on one wing and Winnie on the other, dashing up the ground and hitting Wayne on the chest,
Great thought, I can see it in my mind's eye as the ball gets cradled into Carey's chest from a peach of a pass from Winnie/King/Sinclair/McLaren/Harvey/Pickett, but for that to happen, we'd need Carey leading from full forward......which is, um, where we expect Rocca to play.
So, is it time for Pagans Paddock Part 2? Sav and Carey, both starting from the goal square and leading into open space, but in different directions? Plenty of scope for chaos creation among the opposition backlines, don't you think?
Rooboy 96
4 Jan 2001, 23:17
Originally posted by Shinboners:
[Bis it time for Pagans Paddock Part 2? Sav and Carey, both starting from the goal square and leading into open space, but in different directions? Plenty of scope for chaos creation among the opposition backlines, don't you think?[/B]
If you remember back... Pagan use to do this with Longmire and McAdam both starting in the goalsquare and leading in different directions at different times... sounds great to me...
A while ago on the Roos Phorum I posted a similar suggestion, but using a three-pronged forward set-up of Carey, Rocca, McKernan all leading out separately, with crumbers starting outside the 50 and charging in (in the same direction as the ball). I suppose a problem of this would be the predictability of the plan, but in theory it is probably so simple that no one would expect a coach to use it, hence he might get away with it for a few weeks!
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Shinboners
5 Jan 2001, 11:04
Three leading forwards would probably result in a forward line that is too crowded. However, having Carey and Rocca leading from the goalsquare with the option of these two leading to the pockets/flanks and having either McKernan or Colbert running from the middle into the hole for the "easy mark in front of goal" could create plenty of havoc for opposition defences.
The thing about Essendon is that they're capable of fielding three to four marking options up forward (Hird, Lucas, Lloyd, and Barnes), and while some clubs can cover two of them, no-one can cover three, or four if Barnes goes forward as well. If North followed suit with Carey, Rocca, and McKernan/Colbert, then suddenly our opposition (and that includes Essendon) suddenly have to think about how to cover our third option up forward.