Glenelg Member's Protest

[eastaugh36]

A rumour that There has been a petition signed by 30 members who are unhappy with Brenton Honor's sacking. Apparently when that number sign a petition it is in the constitution that the club must call a meeting and this group wants heads to roll. Well done to all of them. Let's sort these brainless board members out !

[Jerome]

I saw this on Channel 9 news tonight. This group have a 4 point plan that involves a review of the decision to sack Honour, possible re instatement of Honour and possible changes to the board.

It's all very well to ask for changes to the board - but who are they gonna replace them with?

Even if they do manage to sack board members - what if the new board members also want a new coach? Their job is to pick the best bloke possible and if they have choice between a Peter Jonas (for example) or Brenton Honour ...hello Jona!

Channel 9 also mentioned that a group of old Glenelg boys led by Chris McDermott have offered to help the club out (was'nt he in court today again?).

Jerome

[The Pride Of]

Eastaugh 36
I don`t reply to many posts but this one is disturbing. Being a financial member of the club since 1972 ive seen good and not so good times.
The footy gods have decided at the present time to have my proud club scouring the foot of the premiership table and its been tough to take this still with the mighty eighty`s in ones dreams.
But with all that said it would be a giant step backwards to go back on a decision to let Brenton Honor go. Six and a half wins from fourty games in any clubs language is totally unacceptable and even with our high turn over in senior coaches of late is it right to accept this standard ? I say not , find a person who will not take second best who will make the hard decision with out interferance. The game as we once new it has changed and as a club we must be at the front of this change or we will wilt and blow away in the wind. Sorry to go on but its passion for the black and gold jumper to once again be there in the last week in september(October!).
Eastaugh 36 the board members are to be condemmed to a degree as mistakes have been made and compounded on but they are non payed, time giving people with this clubs best intentions at heart, i suggest to you even if you are a younger person to attend the special meeting and show your passion and keep attending games and meetings until you make a difference.
I will attend and add my support to a new era with a new coach so this mighty club can once again strike fear into all clubs rather than the easy beats we have become.

A passionate Glenelg supporter,

Pride

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by The Pride Of
Eastaugh 36
I don`t reply to many posts but this one is disturbing. Being a financial member of the club since 1972 ive seen good and not so good times.
The footy gods have decided at the present time to have my proud club scouring the foot of the premiership table and its been tough to take this still with the mighty eighty`s in ones dreams.
But with all that said it would be a giant step backwards to go back on a decision to let Brenton Honor go. Six and a half wins from fourty games in any clubs language is totally unacceptable and even with our high turn over in senior coaches of late is it right to accept this standard ? I say not , find a person who will not take second best who will make the hard decision with out interferance. The game as we once new it has changed and as a club we must be at the front of this change or we will wilt and blow away in the wind. Sorry to go on but its passion for the black and gold jumper to once again be there in the last week in september(October!).
Eastaugh 36 the board members are to be condemmed to a degree as mistakes have been made and compounded on but they are non payed, time giving people with this clubs best intentions at heart, i suggest to you even if you are a younger person to attend the special meeting and show your passion and keep attending games and meetings until you make a difference.
I will attend and add my support to a new era with a new coach so this mighty club can once again strike fear into all clubs rather than the easy beats we have become.

A passionate Glenelg supporter,

Pride


I like your passion. But it is not as if Honor took over a club that was playing great football. If that was the case then I agree he should have gone but it was always going to take time and he wasnt given long enough. I suggest the board has to go. I mean they have sacked him yet they were the ones who appointed him and some on the board even most probably were there for mcguinness's appointment and later sacking and stringers appointment and later sacking. It has been proven they cant select a coach so get rid of them ! At least we have great kids now and the players actually respect honor unlike in the last few coaching appointments.

[Uncle Steve]

30 members?

That'll show 'em! The board will be hiding under the table, peeing in their pants! :rolleyes:

I was forewarned about the news story so I got Aunty Shell to tape it for me and I watched it when I got home.

Talk about a storm in a bloody teacup - "CLUB IN CRISIS!", read the headline. Then the camera cuts to a solitary figure wandering through an empty carpark clutching a single piece of paper.

There's nothing to see here people; move along.

I'm all for making the board accountable for its actions. But I don't think reappointing Honor is the way to go. I don't want the search for a suitable replacement to be undermined by any percieved disunity at the club.

I have posted about this matter at length on the GFC mailing list. If anyone else cares about this, then sign up on the list.

[Go South]

Originally posted by Uncle Steve
30 members?

That'll show 'em! The board will be hiding under the table, peeing in their pants! :rolleyes:

LOL... me and Blues_Girl said something similar last night.

A 30 member strong petition is hardly a groundbreaking development.

Brenton Honor's record speaks for itself. In the time he was at the club, they showed virtually no signs of improvement, so extending his contract seems pretty illogical to me.

[McAlmanac]

Is it really six and a half wins from forty matches? It's not like he's a proven coach - how long should he have?

And 30 signatures? Hardly supporter revolt......

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Uncle Steve
30 members?

That'll show 'em! The board will be hiding under the table, peeing in their pants! :rolleyes:

I was forewarned about the news story so I got Aunty Shell to tape it for me and I watched it when I got home.

Talk about a storm in a bloody teacup - "CLUB IN CRISIS!", read the headline. Then the camera cuts to a solitary figure wandering through an empty carpark clutching a single piece of paper.

There's nothing to see here people; move along.

I'm all for making the board accountable for its actions. But I don't think reappointing Honor is the way to go. I don't want the search for a suitable replacement to be undermined by any percieved disunity at the club.

I have posted about this matter at length on the GFC mailing list. If anyone else cares about this, then sign up on the list.


How do I join this list ?
Anyway. I think the guy deserves praise for having the guts to stand up to these high and mighty board members who have had it their way for too long. The board appointed him so they should have to go for making a decision they went back on.

[Go South]

Originally posted by eastaugh36
The board appointed him so they should have to go for making a decision they went back on.

Easty, that's ridiculous logic.

[Blues_Brat]

In gimp-boy's defence, there may be more members who aren't happy about the situation, if they only need 30 signatures to force an extraordinary meeting, then they wouldn't bother getting more after that.

I remember the Wonderland Ballroom debacle in 1988, there were 800 fired up people there, yet the meeting was called with a small about of signatures.

[naughty monkey]

Oi Easty,
Who are "These high and mighty" and "brainless" board members????????
Every time someone wants to discuss the coaching position at GFC all you want to do is lambast the Board.

Tell me this, who is on the board Easty?!?!?!
How long have they been there??????
Do you even know??????

I suppose the same board was also irresponsible for building the new Function Centre?

How long should Honour have to prove himself ?????????

Remember he cleaned out 21 players from the squad this year, and we WORSE OFF! THAT IS NOT THE BOARD'S FAULT

Let's just say he was actually re-appointed, how many wins do you think he would need to keep the job?

p.s. from what I have seen of BH over the last 3 years I doubt he would want the job back anyway.

[noddy]

Originally posted by naughty monkey
Oi Easty,
Who are "These high and mighty" and "brainless" board members????????
Every time someone wants to discuss the coaching position at GFC all you want to do is lambast the Board.

Tell me this, who is on the board Easty?!?!?!
How long have they been there??????
Do you even know??????

I suppose the same board was also irresponsible for building the new Function Centre?

How long should Honour have to prove himself ?????????

Remember he cleaned out 21 players from the squad this year, and we WORSE OFF! THAT IS NOT THE BOARD'S FAULT

Let's just say he was actually re-appointed, how many wins do you think he would need to keep the job?

p.s. from what I have seen of BH over the last 3 years I doubt he would want the job back anyway.

Agree on most of your points, BH has not delived whether it's all down to him or not he is the one who takes the blame,
as for the board, well in my opinion the bays board has been up & down & all over the place for years in fact ever since Kym Hodgman was dumped [ or had no choice but to resign], to me that was one of the great injustices in the Bays history,

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by naughty monkey
Oi Easty,
Who are "These high and mighty" and "brainless" board members????????
Every time someone wants to discuss the coaching position at GFC all you want to do is lambast the Board.

Tell me this, who is on the board Easty?!?!?!
How long have they been there??????
Do you even know??????

I suppose the same board was also irresponsible for building the new Function Centre?

How long should Honour have to prove himself ?????????

Remember he cleaned out 21 players from the squad this year, and we WORSE OFF! THAT IS NOT THE BOARD'S FAULT

Let's just say he was actually re-appointed, how many wins do you think he would need to keep the job?

p.s. from what I have seen of BH over the last 3 years I doubt he would want the job back anyway.


The brainless board members are the ones who think the simple solution is to sack the coach. Now I wont name the entire board as brainless because I know for a fact that the decision to sack honor was not voted on by all board members.
We need stability. But if they insist Honor has to go then obviously they have to go for appointing him, dont you think ?

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Blues_Brat
In gimp-boy's defence

Who are you referring to ?

[Go South]

Originally posted by eastaugh36
The brainless board members are the ones who think the simple solution is to sack the coach. Now I wont name the entire board as brainless because I know for a fact that the decision to sack honor was not voted on by all board members.
We need stability. But if they insist Honor has to go then obviously they have to go for appointing him, dont you think ?

Why would you keep on someone who's coached you to consecutive wooden spoons? He's done nothing with Glenelg.

As I said earlier, it's ridiculous to suggest the board should all be sacked, because they appointed a coach who didn't perform. They're not psychic for gods sake.

[naughty monkey]

Originally posted by eastaugh36
...<snip>.... But if they insist Honor has to go then obviously they have to go for appointing him, dont you think ?

Not Necessarily.

I would have thought that the actual process of interviewing candidates etc is NOT done by the board but by a combination of CEO/President/some sort of selection panel (read Zadow, Sneezer + others?). This body then places a recommendation(s) for the position of senior coach before the board for approval.

This is an assumption on my part, if you can enlighten me to exactly how candidates are chosen, please do.

But if the above scenario is correct then 2 key people who made the recommendation have already gone.

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Go South


Why would you keep on someone who's coached you to consecutive wooden spoons? He's done nothing with Glenelg.

As I said earlier, it's ridiculous to suggest the board should all be sacked, because they appointed a coach who didn't perform. They're not psychic for gods sake.

I think with the squad of players at hand it would have been hard to expect any better. At least now some quality youngsters are there to ensure we improve starting next year. If they choose the wrong person as coach then the blame lays with them.

[Uncle Steve]

Originally posted by eastaugh36
I think with the squad of players at hand it would have been hard to expect any better. At least now some quality youngsters are there to ensure we improve starting next year. If they choose the wrong person as coach then the blame lays with them.

At the start of the season you couldn't heap enough superlatives on the playing list. Comments like "Glenelg's forward line is as good as any in the SANFL", as I recall. It is therefore lame to use the playing list as an excuse.

If Honor was "The One", he'd have had a better record than three wins and 17 losses. Nor would the wins have been all by narrow margins over non-opposition. Honor grossly underperformed with what he had. End of story.

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Uncle Steve


At the start of the season you couldn't heap enough superlatives on the playing list. Comments like "Glenelg's forward line is as good as any in the SANFL", as I recall. It is therefore lame to use the playing list as an excuse.

If Honor was "The One", he'd have had a better record than three wins and 17 losses. Nor would the wins have been all by narrow margins over non-opposition. Honor grossly underperformed with what he had. End of story.


Yeah but that was at the start of the year looking on paper and with wishful thinking like every supporter has of their club at the start of a season. In hindsight it is clear that with the performances of certain players, finals was wishful thinking.Put it this way - I like Brenton Honor, he seems a great person and the players like him and respect him. He should have been kept.

[Blues_Brat]

Originally posted by eastaugh36


Who are you referring to ?
Think, McFly.

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Blues_Brat

Think, McFly.


Big deal. If you get off on childish insults then good luck to you.

[naughty monkey]

Originally posted by eastaugh36



Yeah but that was at the start of the year looking on paper and with wishful thinking like every supporter has of their club at the start of a season. In hindsight it is clear that with the performances of certain players, finals was wishful thinking.Put it this way - I like Brenton Honor, he seems a great person and the players like him and respect him. He should have been kept.

Agreed, everyone likes him everyone respects him.
He's a top bloke.
we'd all buy him a beer if we met him at the pub

but he cant coach.
(not at Glenelg anyway)

the only defense a coach has is his record :-
6 wins 1 draw 33 losses in two years
enough said!

[McAlmanac]

Originally posted by naughty monkey

6 wins 1 draw 33 losses in two years

You'd lose your job in the corporate world with that record.....

[Uncle Steve]

Naughty Monkey and Easty -

have a gander at this week's Messenger (Guardian - Glenelg/Marion area). There is an interview with BH in the sport pages. Interesting reading.

[McAlmanac]

Originally posted by Uncle Steve
Naughty Monkey and Easty -

have a gander at this week's Messenger (Guardian - Glenelg/Marion area). There is an interview with BH in the sport pages. Interesting reading.
For those of us not local to the area - what was the gist of it?

[Macca19]

Originally posted by eastaugh36


I think with the squad of players at hand it would have been hard to expect any better.

What was wrong with your squad?? Your squad was filled with ex-AFL players and you recruited fairly strongly. Yet youre team failed dismally.

Byrne, Contessa, Manfield, Koster, Smith, Baldwin, Cornes, Shir, Golding, Thompson, Handby, Stephens, Cook all played AFL or are AFL listed players. Most of them are pretty handy players.

Honor couldnt get the best out of his playing list. Honor struggled to get anything out of his playing list. 6 wins in 2 years is a poor record for a club that went all out recruiting for the past two seasons. You have just as many ex-AFL players on your list as Centrals does...only difference is CLarkson knows how to get his players to want to win for him and get the best out of them - Honor couldnt do that.

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by naughty monkey


Agreed, everyone likes him everyone respects him.
He's a top bloke.
we'd all buy him a beer if we met him at the pub

but he cant coach.
(not at Glenelg anyway)

the only defense a coach has is his record :-
6 wins 1 draw 33 losses in two years
enough said!

Yes he is a top bloke which is far important than being criticised for his coaching.
Anyway, by this time next year we will all know. If the new coach cant improve us significantly then we know it cant be the coach and Honor had no blame in it. The pressures now off Honor and it is now on the new coach and those board members.

[Uncle Steve]

Originally posted by McAlmanac

For those of us not local to the area - what was the gist of it?

Here you go Mac (and NM and Easty):

http://www.messenger.net.au/Sport/htm/honor02.html

[eastaugh36]

Originally posted by Uncle Steve


Here you go Mac (and NM and Easty):

http://www.messenger.net.au/Sport/htm/honor02.html

Thankyou for posting that.
No doubt Honor is a great bloke and all the best to him for the future.