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Mervyn Beasley
23 Sep 2008, 20:56
One of the greatest draft stories ever (along with Chris Grant!)
Does anyone think we will ever see another James Hird in a draft?
As it happens, anyone know what Hirdy has been up to this year?
Havent seen nor heard him at all.
bomba4eva
23 Sep 2008, 21:27
Saw Hird a month back on Toorak road at 7.50am jogging behind his kid who he was taking to school. The kid was on a bicycle. Was going at a decent pace too. Looks like he is keeping himself fit.
Wasn't he on the Hearld Sun site today answering questions?
Typical of Hird's career that him getting injuired just before the draft was a reason no-one else took him!
warney7
23 Sep 2008, 22:39
Players are always bound to slip through, but it's becoming less and less likely.
When asked today on the Herald Sun site whether he was interested in coaching, his response was that he was very happy working at Gemba.
He also gave a fairly clear message that he has no interest in a media career.
rainman06
24 Sep 2008, 01:38
I have guaged from him that he isnt super keen on doing anything too full-on in the footy industry at all.
And there will never be another Sir James, but there will be plenty more gems found very low down in the draft no doubt. In fact, im surprised there hasnt been more in the last couple of years.
chook2734
24 Sep 2008, 01:53
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/return-could-be-a-gamble/2008/09/24/1222180149873.html
Does this article seem as bizarre to you as it does on the Freo board?
Hird and Solomon back to Windy Hill? :confused:
scottwade
24 Sep 2008, 01:56
Does anyone think we will ever see another James Hird in a draft?
Incredibly prescient. :eek:
Mervyn Beasley
24 Sep 2008, 06:30
Check the front of The Age guys.
My post last night was a sneaky hint.
What do ya's reckon about that???
Maybe there wil be another James Hird in the draft (just an older version)
AndyLesPaul
24 Sep 2008, 07:11
Check the front of The Age guys.
My post last night was a sneaky hint.
What do ya's reckon about that???
Maybe there wil be another James Hird in the draft (just an older version)
Man, i'd be stoked
but not surprised if it doesnt happen
AndyLesPaul
24 Sep 2008, 07:15
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/return-could-be-a-gamble/2008/09/24/1222180149873.html
I was just wondering on the off chance that James Hird does return is there a way he could make sure that we get him see other teams dont attempt to?
Cheers
skipper kelly
24 Sep 2008, 07:17
Hird was on SEN. He said no.
Darealrath
24 Sep 2008, 07:25
Hird was on SEN. He said no.
I love him to death but I hope you're right.
skipper kelly
24 Sep 2008, 07:30
I love him to death but I hope you're right.
It certainly sounded like Hird on the phone. Had the kids annoying him. He said there is nothing further from the truth and he is very happy. SEN will replay it later they said.
Yeah but he'll be more happy playing again ;)
centurion
24 Sep 2008, 08:18
Not gonna happen, the media owe him an apology.
Longy413
24 Sep 2008, 08:40
Solly wouldn't surprise me.
Daytripper
24 Sep 2008, 08:57
Not gonna happen, the media owe him an apology.
I posted this on the 4th Estate Board.
The only way Hird could get to Essendon is via the National or pre Season Draft. Therefore it is in his best interests to deny any speculation of a comeback. If he confirmed he wanted to comeback, any other club in the comp could pick him up in the National Draft before Essendon and 4 clubs would have first crack at him in the pre season draft (which I assume would be Essendon's preferred option of getting him).
There is a precedent when Tim Watson was talked about as wanting to make a comeback only to see West Coast draft him before Essendon had a chance to get him back again.
Connolly has good contacts at Essendon and is a decent journalist. I strongly doubt that this is made up.
EVERLAST
24 Sep 2008, 09:00
Hopefully we stick to our youth policy and not entertain the idea of bringing Solly back.
He once was a respected player - but he's simply become a thug and a player whose powers are quickly diminishing. We have the kids to invest time into and this would simply be a waste of time.
Daytripper
24 Sep 2008, 09:02
Hopefully we stick to our youth policy and not entertain the idea of bringing Solly back.
He once was a respected player - but he's simply become a thug and a player whose powers are quickly diminishing. We have the kids to invest time into and this would simply be a waste of time.
Solly has been sensational at Fremantle. Ask any of their fans. Don't know what games of theirs you have been watching.
Solly has been sensational at Fremantle. Ask any of their fans. Don't know what games of theirs you have been watching.
yep he has been very good and we dont exactly have an abundance of guys who hit the ball and the man with his intensity.
I'd pick him up if he came cheap.
Ben the Gooner
24 Sep 2008, 09:13
1993:
Legend of the club returns from a years' retirement
Team full of kids
Premiership
2009:
Legend of the club returns from a years' retirement?
Team full of kids
Premiership?
The Dustbin
24 Sep 2008, 09:24
Not gonna happen, the media owe him an apology.
Exactly JC.
Looks like Rohan got this wrong. Wouldn't mind Solly back at EFC, for all the reasons mentioned already.
I posted this on the 4th Estate Board.
The only way Hird could get to Essendon is via the National or pre Season Draft. Therefore it is in his best interests to deny any speculation of a comeback. If he confirmed he wanted to comeback, any other club in the comp could pick him up in the National Draft before Essendon and 4 clubs would have first crack at him in the pre season draft (which I assume would be Essendon's preferred option of getting him).
There is a precedent when Tim Watson was talked about as wanting to make a comeback only to see West Coast draft him before Essendon had a chance to get him back again.
Connolly has good contacts at Essendon and is a decent journalist. I strongly doubt that this is made up.
Gehrig got back to St.Kilda this year.
All Hird has to do is bluntly say he is not playing for anyone else but Essendon so you will waste a pick if you select me. I doubt come the PSD that clubs are going to risk picking him and then going one short on their list.
Anyway i hope he is not coming back. Even though he won the B&F i thought he was not the same player he was in 2007 and other sides really burnt us a few times by running players off him.
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/return-could-be-a-gamble/2008/09/24/1222180149873.html
I was just wondering on the off chance that James Hird does return is there a way he could make sure that we get him see other teams dont attempt to?
Cheers
Hird nominates for the PSD. Hird says he will only play for Essendon so you are wasting your pick if you select me.
Clubs are not going to risk being one short on their list by picking him.
Same deal as St.Kilda and Gehrig last year.
Daytripper
24 Sep 2008, 09:37
Gehrig got back to St.Kilda this year.
All Hird has to do is bluntly say he is not playing for anyone else but Essendon so you will waste a pick if you select me. I doubt come the PSD that clubs are going to risk picking him and then going one short on their list.
Anyway i hope he is not coming back. Even though he won the B&F i thought he was not the same player he was in 2007 and other sides really burnt us a few times by running players off him.
Can you use for example pick 80 (5th round) to pick up Hird. In the two weeks following determine if he is interested and if not, cancel that pick/contract to use it again in the PSD.
The Dustbin
24 Sep 2008, 09:44
Didn't St Kilda use their 3rd round draft pick in the national draft on Fraser last year?
harryhoward
24 Sep 2008, 09:51
no no no, dont do it james...:thumbsd:
EVERLAST
24 Sep 2008, 09:54
Solly has been sensational at Fremantle. Ask any of their fans. Don't know what games of theirs you have been watching.
We have an abundance of kids we can play and nurture down back as the game continues to pick up speed - why would we sacrifice our youth policy for a player who not only is getting old but plays an older style of football - and is slower.
No point asking any of their fans - no doubt Solly suits their best 22 - he'd struggle to cement a spot in anyone elses that's serious about their finals aspirations.
He certainly wouldn't suit our midfield - forward line is out of the question - down back - we saw Big Mal struggle as another key defender - where would you have him?
B-Bomber
24 Sep 2008, 09:59
I just saw today on the back of the West Australian that Hird might be coming back into the game.
Personally I don't think it would benefit our team to redraft him. I mean we are going for youth it's one of the reasons we wouldn't give Peverill another contract. I'm not saying Hird is a bad player but redrafting him would be a waste when we could get a young gun with it.
If Hird comes back whats he gonna do run in the midfield? No he is most likely going to play as a forward and chances are he is not up to scratch and if he retires again in the same year not many people will care.
We dont want Hird to do a Fraser Gehrig.
Also we got rid of Solomon so we should not think of bringing him back.
Your Opinion?
It would never happen. Hirdys not that stupid.
Just saw it on the news, can't see it happening.
AndyLesPaul
24 Sep 2008, 10:10
Hird nominates for the PSD. Hird says he will only play for Essendon so you are wasting your pick if you select me.
Clubs are not going to risk being one short on their list by picking him.
Same deal as St.Kilda and Gehrig last year.
Kk thanks.
shame its probably not goner happen since he denied it though.
The Dustbin
24 Sep 2008, 10:47
RETIRED Essendon champion James Hird has denied he is planning to make a stunning comeback to football.
A front page report in today's The Age newspaper claimed the former premiership captain, who retired in 2007, was seeking a meeting this week with the Bombers’ coach Matthew Knights.
The report claimed that Hird, 35, was interested in a return next season and had kept himself in “top physical condition” in the hope of convincing the club he could still play at the elite level.
The report claimed the idea was raised on a footy trip to the United States with former teammates.
But today Hird flatly denied the claims.
"There’s no chance of me coming back to football."
And Hird said there was no truth to the claim that he was seeking a meeting with Knights.
“No. That’s not right.”
“My footy days are well and truly over,” he said.
“I’m very happy doing what I’m doing as a director of Gemba which is a marketing company.
“We’ve just invested a lot of money overseas into India and Hong Kong where there are offices there and a push into the US.
He accepted that some people would like to see a comeback, but “I’ve got a big commitment to a lot of people and I’ll be staying doing what I’m doing”.
Hird’s career spanned 253 games from 1992-2007, included Premierships in 1993 and 2000 (when he won the Norm Smith medal), and saw him win the coveted Brownlow medal in 1996.
Former Bombers coach Kevin Sheedy rated Hird as the best player he had coached in 27 seasons.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24394951-661,00.html
Phew. :)
EVERLAST
24 Sep 2008, 11:52
For some light reading (and some to make your blood boil..) read the reader's comments to the HS article relating to Hird rejecting rumours of a comeback - Ross Kennedy and Roberta Amario's comments in particular will have you on the attack quickly.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24394951-661,00.html
:mad:
The Dustbin
24 Sep 2008, 12:07
For some light reading (and some to make your blood boil..) read the reader's comments to the HS article relating to Hird rejecting rumours of a comeback - Ross Kennedy and Roberta Amario's comments in particular will have you on the attack quickly.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24394951-661,00.html
:mad:
Shitta? :o
centurion
24 Sep 2008, 12:20
Nah Dusty, it wasn't abusive enough for Shitta.
There are some deadset dropkicks out there.
The Dustbin
24 Sep 2008, 12:30
Nah Dusty, it wasn't abusive enough for Shitta.
There are some deadset dropkicks out there.
Yeah, true JC. :D
I was really surpised when i heard the story this morning, but Hirdy was on the front foot this morning saying it was all false.
Ben the Gooner
24 Sep 2008, 13:08
For some light reading (and some to make your blood boil..) read the reader's comments to the HS article relating to Hird rejecting rumours of a comeback - Ross Kennedy and Roberta Amario's comments in particular will have you on the attack quickly.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24394951-661,00.html
:mad:
These people comment on the Herald Sun website. Says it all, really.
OzBomber
24 Sep 2008, 15:25
http://www.realfooty.com.au/news/news/return-could-be-a-gamble/2008/09/24/1222180149873.html
Does this article seem as bizarre to you as it does on the Freo board?
Hird and Solomon back to Windy Hill? :confused:There is no way we'd take Solomon back.
alex_q_2006
24 Sep 2008, 15:32
I don't reakon he'll come back, and when you think about it, it might be for the best. It'd be sad if he did a Wayne Carey, and came back and done nothing. He's a champion and always will be but, he doesnt want to risk tht with a poor one-year return.
DonMania#5
24 Sep 2008, 15:57
Rohan Connoly, what a joke.
bomberstomake8
24 Sep 2008, 16:02
I was really surpised when i heard the story this morning, but Hirdy was on the front foot this morning saying it was all false.
that doesnt really mean anything though... apparently he hasnt spoken to knights yet so he wasnt going to announce his return to football before speaking to any officials at the club. if he did and knights said we are going for a youth policy then hird would look like an idiot.
in saying that i dont think hird ever wanted to come back from retirement and its just a media build up
Can you use for example pick 80 (5th round) to pick up Hird. In the two weeks following determine if he is interested and if not, cancel that pick/contract to use it again in the PSD.
Well if Hird only nominated for the PSD you would not have that issue.
At the end of the day i doubt any club would draft a player that has said they will not play for any other club other than their original club without talking to them before the draft. The stakes are just too high now days, even more so with new sides entering over the next 5 years.
Essendonfc_4_lyfe
24 Sep 2008, 16:21
For some light reading (and some to make your blood boil..) read the reader's comments to the HS article relating to Hird rejecting rumours of a comeback - Ross Kennedy and Roberta Amario's comments in particular will have you on the attack quickly.
http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,24394951-661,00.html
:mad:
Lol at the comment, Limelight? Haven't heard of him since he was runner for us against Collingwood, and before that last time heard of him was when he retired :P
"Even as a Carlton supporter i think all the comments are a bit harsh, The guy can play and even won a B&F in his last year.Common sense will prevail but don't slam an outstanding career." ....Im scared :D
Longy413
24 Sep 2008, 17:00
Well if Hird only nominated for the PSD you would not have that issue.
Can you once you've been out for a year?
Hasn't the whole Ben Cousins thing shed light that once you're out of the system you have to first nominate for the ND?
Can you once you've been out for a year?
Hasn't the whole Ben Cousins thing shed light that once you're out of the system you have to first nominate for the ND?
They change the rules every second year so i am never 100%.
Guess it does not really matter anyway now :)
Ben the Gooner
24 Sep 2008, 18:26
Lol at the comment, Limelight? Haven't heard of him since he was runner for us against Collingwood, and before that last time heard of him was when he retired :P
"Even as a Carlton supporter i think all the comments are a bit harsh, The guy can play and even won a B&F in his last year.Common sense will prevail but don't slam an outstanding career." ....Im scared :D
They wouldn't accept my comment being a grammar Nazi to one of the wankers criticisers, which ended with Hird>>>>Voss>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Buckley (receiver).:mad:
I wonder why.