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Adelaide Hawk
3 Oct 2002, 23:45
I just thought I'd throw this one up for discussion among Hawks fans. Who was the better full forward: Peter Hudson or Jason Dunstall?
I've always been a huge fan of both and seriously cannot split them.
Peter Hudson was a freakish full forward with uncanny bodywork and tremendous ability to win the ball and goal against overwhelming odds, and his goals/match average (5.6) is the highest of all time.
Jason Dunstall possessed a fast lead and powerful mark as well as ample ground skills, and his propensity for hard work was unequalled by full forwards of his era.
Both magnificent full-forwards, I can't split them. Perhaps I shouldn't and just leave them both at Number 1 where they belong.
I was just interested in what other people thought.
Haven't seen a lot of Huddo footage compared with the many happy memories of Bung so it's hard to split them.
Going on facts alone, the stats tend to indicate Huddo as the superior FF. You could probably also assume that Bung got quicker and better delivery.
Huddo for mine.
John
thommo16
7 Oct 2002, 17:48
Dunstall for me, only because I have seen him play live
bluechampion
7 Oct 2002, 18:11
As i understand it Dunstall assisted more goals, so his stats are down slightly on what they should be.
I'd pick Huddo because it was the 70s, and everything was better then.
Rusty Brookes
8 Oct 2002, 11:44
Originally posted by bluechampion
As i understand it Dunstall assisted more goals, so his stats are down slightly on what they should be.
I'd pick Huddo because it was the 70s, and everything was better then.
bluechampion, another lost child of the 70s. I was too young to appreciate how great the 70s were. Hawthorn being the top side in the comp, wrestling every Saturday night at Festival Hall, killer rock n roll (from the Saints to the Sex Pistols to AC/DC to Blue Oyster Cult) and the chicks looked hot.
Now to contradict myself I go with Dunstall, simply because he played more games at VFL/AFL level but it is hard to separate to out and out champions.
Adelaide Hawk
9 Oct 2002, 00:03
Originally posted by Rusty Brookes
bluechampion, another lost child of the 70s. I was too young to appreciate how great the 70s were. Hawthorn being the top side in the comp, wrestling every Saturday night at Festival Hall, killer rock n roll (from the Saints to the Sex Pistols to AC/DC to Blue Oyster Cult) and the chicks looked hot.
Now to contradict myself I go with Dunstall, simply because he played more games at VFL/AFL level but it is hard to separate to out and out champions.
Yes, Jason Dunstall was just as good either on his feet or on his knees .... just thought I'd throw that one in, a Blue Oyster Cult fan would know what I mean :)
Rusty Brookes
9 Oct 2002, 12:13
Originally posted by Adelaide Hawk
Yes, Jason Dunstall was just as good either on his feet or on his knees .... just thought I'd throw that one in, a Blue Oyster Cult fan would know what I mean :)
:D :D :D A man 'The Red and The Black' couldn't get....
Grendel
11 Oct 2002, 16:57
Hudson and by some way too.
Only really 'saw' him in 77 when he was old, fat, couldnt run and kicked 110. ;) Dont remember him much from my real early days (I was only six/seven).
Yet from conversations I have had with older Hawk people that saw both Huddo and Bung, as good as Bung was I dont ever meet to many (a few, not many) that pick Jason over Hudson.
I also go by what I have heard Kanga Kennedy say about him, that it was a shame that his best years were just about to begin! Mind boggoling to think that he could have been even better (and remember he had what, 8 to ten minutes before half-time on a fairly good defender in Biffin) the day he did his knee!
So, for all that Jason did (and by God he did a helluva lot) Hudson had more pure talent than maybe anyone else to have played.
Cheers.
Adelaide Hawk
11 Oct 2002, 23:01
Hawthorn have been blessed to have two of the greatest full forwards of all time. Hudson was a genuine freak. Those of us who saw him play in the late 60s and early 70s can't help but feel he was still improving right up to the day he injured his knee, and one can only imagine the goalkicking records he would have smashed from the years 1972 to the late 70s.
Fred Fanning's record would have gone for sure, and I would estimate he would have set a record Tony Lockett would still be trying to reach. Pure speculation I know, but I can't help but think he may have gone close to kicking 200 goals in a season ..... Peter Hudson was a freak.
PAfolwr
18 Oct 2002, 16:00
Hudson. He was a freak.
GOALden Hawk
25 Oct 2002, 15:05
The job of a full-forward is to kick as many goals as possible per game.
Peter Hudson did it better than any other player ever. He may not have had the flair of Coleman or the team play of Dunstall, but he did what he was supposed to do.
It was a travesty he wasn't given full-forward in AFL Team of the Century.
When it comes to goal kicking nobody can beat Peter Hudson
As an ignorant Pommy who tries to keep up with the game but obviously finds it difficult all I can say is that Hudson must have been some player for most people to rate him above Dunstall.
I might have to try & get hold of some 70s videos of Hawthorn & maybe the 89 GF while I'm at it.
mattyc2422
3 Nov 2002, 23:55
With my 450th post (while I wait for the Soccer to start), I delcare the pair uncomparable and both go down as lifelong champions of the HFC.
Both instilled fear in defenders. Imagine them in the same side!
Huddo's precision at kicking goals was freakish.
So Huddo's aim was phenomenal, whilst Dunstall kicked bags and bags full.
Hmm... Dunstall kicked enough goals in a career to get my vote though :)