Cochrane, Makepeace and Clayton

[The invisible mullet]

For North to be a real chance in the finals (whether they come 4-8) they can't have these blokes playing a role. Give them some games during the year by all means but they were yards behind their opposite numbers last year. North's worst 6 players last year were pretty ordinary - with that in mind who should get a go in front of them?

[Shinboners]

Can someone please explain Stuart Cochrane to me? He seems to me to be a poor man's Shane Clayton, but at least with Clayton, you know that he's got a bit of pace and has an uncanny ability to make space for himself. If only Clayton could improve his kicking (to Darren Jarmen levels would be wonderful, but I'd accept it if he could simply pass the ball straight into Carey's chest). Makepeace, much to my amazement, played 22 games for us in 2000....not the most skilled player, but he plays with a little bit of grunt....I'd like to see him tried in a tagging role. Troy, take a leaf out of Peter Bell's book to see where a bit of determination can take you.

Still, I'd be very surprised to see all three in a North team in 2001, although I'd be even more surprised to see Calthorpe named just once...even as an emergency http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/wink.gif . I would think that (provided they're fit and keen) Sinclair and McLaren will take up two spots and at least one of our young draft picks will be in the senior side come round 1. Then there's Shannon Motlop and possibly Brady Rawlings. Our mantra in '01....skills in, long bombs out.

[The invisible mullet]

The fact that Makepeace got 22 games says more about our lack of depth than anything - he had a good year but one suspects he would have got a handful of games if we had a bit more quality in our list. Clayton and Cochrane are both frustrating players, the former because he gets a reasonable amount of the ball but usually wastes it, the latter because he appears to have a leather allergy and the only tackle he could break would be his own.

[Shinboners]

While I agree our lack of depth was one reason why Makepeace got so many games, the other thing is that he took his chance and didn't get dropped. Others like Clayton, Cochrane, Rawlings, and Motlop didn't take their chances and got dropped during the year.

However, after the draft, I did a rough best line up for 2001, and Makepeace wasn't in there. Off memory, the side was something like:

B: Archer, Martyn, Blakey
HB: King, McCartney, Pickett
C: Sinclair, Simpson, Colbert
HF: McLaren, Carey, Abraham
F: S.Motlop, Rocca, Grant
Foll: McKernan, Stevens, Harvey
Inter: Burton, Lange, Dylan Smith, D.Motlop

Dylan Smith and Daniel Motlop are in because it seems that they're highly rated by the recruiting staff and are expected to play senior footy in 2001.

[This message has been edited by Shinboners (edited 02 January 2001).]

[Aussie_Roo]

I think you are a bit harsh on Shannon Motlop there Shinboners? Last year, he seem to have an ever lasting ankle injury, then when he did make it into the team he broke his leg.. I think he is a real talent, and hopefully will get his opportunity next year.

[Carey_is_King]

He has some skills, but he is a lazy player who will let you down when you need him most. I doubt he will be there in 2002 unless he gets his act together this year.

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Trample the Weak,
Hurdle the Dead.

[Shinboners]

Aussie Roo

Shannon Motlop does have talent, but it's a matter of how he uses it. It's also a matter of how he reacts to getting dropped. I know he had injuries and had to be dropped, but he was also dropped for lack of form on other occassions. On pure talent, he would leave Peter Bell for dead. But the thing is that Bell worked his guts out to get the most out of his ability, and that is what made Bell a valuable player for us while Shannon Motlop gets filed under "potential".

[warrior]

In my weaker moments I feel sorry for Stuart Cochrane.
You should recall he was a preseason compensatory selection in 1995 for Peter Mann who went to Fremantle.
We were allowed to select the best 16 year old player in the Country.
Stuart is the nephew of Peter Jonas, a great player whose career was cut short by a horror run of injuries.
Stuart came to North from Adelaide in 1996 and asked for the number 45 worn by Jonas.
Obviously with this background there has been enormous pressure on Stuart to perform
at the top level.
Unfortunately he has his limitations and while he has played 12 senior games, now at 22 years of age,he must be disappointed .

Perhaps this year may be the turnaround!!

Unfortunately for North, Essendon had the the same opportunity in 1995 with a preseason compensatory selection for Todd Riley who went to Fremantle.

Their choice from Avondale was Mathew Lloyd!!!


warrior

[kymhodgemansmo]

Note that thy did have the first pick - not us

[warrior]

Note-- It would not have made any difference!!!

warrior

[kymhodgemansmo]

Are you suggesting we would have taken Cochrane over LLoyd.


I think not.

So it may have made a minor difference.

[croode]

Note: we passed up on Steven King & Chad Morrison

[warrior]

kymhodgemansmo

It is obvious you do not know the facts and have misinterpreted my reply.

The facts are that North did not consider any other player than Stuart Cochrane for this preferential pick. He was a prize player in Adelaide with a known North pedigree,namely Peter Jonas.

Thus it made no difference who went first.
Essendon had settled on Lloyd ,North had settled on Cochrane.

There were plenty of other 16 year old players available at the time who could have been picked besides Cochrane or Lloyd eg

David Wirrapunda Eastern u18`s
Heath Black Oakleigh u18`s
Michael Gardiner No 1 in 1996 draft
etc etc etc


http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
warrior

[dyson]

I thought that Stuart Cochrane showed some promise in the final against Hawthorn last year. I have also been most impressed with the way he conducts himself at club functions, namely the North Melbourne Past Player Functions. I did not know he is the newphew of Peter Jonas. I hope he retains number 45. As for Troy Makepeace he is a gusty player. The Kangaroos would of been in a worse position last year without the contribution of Troy. Last year the Kangas never got out of the bunker. Give the players a break.

[Rooboy 96]

Warrior... it must be so hard to get it right now... I am so amazed at how Football smart you really are... so being so smart can you you tell me who will be number 1 in the 2001 national draft...

Give it a go smartboy...

[35eye]

I agree with your coments, Dyson.

Three different types of players each have made separate contributions to the team.

As a premiership player, if Shane Clayton hasn't done enough to prove his worth to the supporters then I don't know what more he can do.

Stuart Cochrane showed an awesome display of guts in the finals. The way he threw himself at the play & attempted to capitalise on each opportunity is probably everything that the coaching staff asked of him. I honestly love to watch the boy play whether in the VFL comp last year or hopefully many more seniors games this year.

I am a big fan of Troy Makepeace. I believe that he himself was never too cocky last season to think that he deserved open entry in to the side based on his previous week's form. I heard that when talked to his team mentors about this very issue that he was consoled by the fact that they all felt that they were going through a slump in the mid to late season period & I reckon his confidence improved throughout the finals. Troy also has John Longmire as player manager & you couldn't ask for better backing than the guy who made your number legendary. I reckon he will go on to be a great club leader in the coming years.

[warrior]

Booooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!

Rooboy96 you make me feel like Wayne playing against the Swans at the SCG. As in round 5 in 2000,despite his 24 kicks,six handballs,
11 marks, and 3 goals , his smartness received plenty of boos but no Brownlow votes!


Neville Stibbard,Recruiting Manager,stated on TV at the October 2000 National Draft that he already knew who the top 50 players would be in the 2001 National Draft.
This is because of the number of recruiters now available,the number of controlled junior comps, the introduction of the Draft Camp ,observations and tests at the draft Camps etc

Obviously all clubs are in the same position.

I am not a recruiter, although I had some involvement in the U19 days.

Thus I have no idea who the No 1 Draft pick will be in 2001. I suggest you ring Neville on Monday at the Club and he being the expert may tell you!!!!!

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warrior

[Carey_is_King]

35eye/Dyson,

You ask what more Clayton has to do.
Hit a leading forward (one of ours) on the chest with a pass would be a good start.

Cochrane's uncle ? Who cares ? No45 ? So what? The guy is an average player, very average.
If he is still at the club this time next year I will be very surprised.

Makepeace at least shows some heart and reasonable skills, but AFL material ? I don't think so. Club leader ? I doubt he will go the distance to be a regular player, much less a leader.

All personal opinions after all, but time will tell.

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Trample the Weak,
Hurdle the Dead.

[This message has been edited by Carey_is_King (edited 07 January 2001).]

[35eye]

Coming from you CIK, that doesn't mean much. I doubt you'll be a North supporter post-Carey era so you probably won't see Makey reach his best.

[Carey_is_King]

I guarantee I will hang around if Makepeace is still in the colours - just for you.

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Trample the Weak,
Hurdle the Dead.

[The invisible mullet]

I accept that my initial post might have been a bit harsh but it it was meant to be realistic - whatever the respective merits of Clayton, Cochrane and Makepeace as players might be they are a couple of skill levels below the sort of players we need in a competitive finals side.

[croode]

Have to agree with CIK.
The midfield has to improve their skill level markedly this coming season. Gone are the days of getting the ball and bombing it into Carey and co. Whereas in the past he was good enough to do the job, he now needs assistance with more precise delivery of the ball to avoid his body receiving too much battering, thus prolonging his career.
There is no point players such as Clayton, Simpson and others being good enough to get the ball and not being put to good use. This then leads to the turnover of the ball, the backline put under a lot of pressure and subsequently high scores kicked against us.
I am hopeful that the addition of Sinclair, McLaren, D. Smith and Harris will give the midfield a bit more pace and class to go with the grit and determination of Stevens and Harvey with the backup of King and Pickett.
So Simpson, Makepeace, Clayton, Cochrane and even Grant will need to improve on last season to keep their positions in the team.

[kymhodgemansmo]

Excuse Me mouthpiece,

I merely stated that North would have taken Lloyd, a fact Pagan made clear prior to taking Cochrane, and yes he was our next pick.

Simple, Essendon beat us to the punch, you inferred otherwise, so obviously you want tio make a hero of yourself by bagging others on some moot point you are trying to make juat because, like most other North fans would know, Peter frigging Jonas is his uncle.

I merely stated that North would have taken Lloyd had we been given first pick.

How does that make me ill informed mouth????


Originally posted by warrior:
kymhodgemansmo

It is obvious you do not know the facts and have misinterpreted my reply.

The facts are that North did not consider any other player than Stuart Cochrane for this preferential pick. He was a prize player in Adelaide with a known North pedigree,namely Peter Jonas.

Thus it made no difference who went first.
Essendon had settled on Lloyd ,North had settled on Cochrane.

There were plenty of other 16 year old players available at the time who could have been picked besides Cochrane or Lloyd eg

David Wirrapunda Eastern u18`s
Heath Black Oakleigh u18`s
Michael Gardiner No 1 in 1996 draft
etc etc etc


http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
warrior

[warrior]

kymhodgesmansmo
It makes you
An illinformed arsehole getting a kick out of having a nickname like a footballer.

The only smell of ligament you have ever experienced is when you farted in excitment trying to write that rubbish!!!!!!!


warrior http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif

[Daphne]

I have always thought that Makepeace has the potential of a good captain, this year will be a make or break one for him.

[kymhodgemansmo]

Not sure if you are deliberately trying to get a rise or if you really are a wanker.

I am not sure what Cochrane and North's priority pick have to do with whether I have played or in fact continue to play football, but a genius such as yourself I guess can tell anything.

As for your own insecurity and desire to ridicule others with fiction rather than fact, I admire you and the way you stand by your conviction because it appears to be all you know about football.

Genius, you should be coaching at AFL level, and let us hope, as genuine passionate Kangaroos fans, that Cochrane lives up to anywhere near the rating you are suggesting Pagan gave him - the best 16 year old in the land.

Cheers

kymhodgemansmo and getting a woody because that is my name too fool

[kymhodgemansmo]

Warrior

(assuming by your name you must be one of those players that get heaps of ball hard gets or whatever they call them, and then throws it to your teammate - you can throw it can't you???)

I am not sure what farting has to do with smelling ligaments and in turn what smelling ligaments has to do with playing football.

While on the topic, I dont think my nose has ever been close to a ligament, well not internally anyway - what does it smell like, have you ever tasted it, does it burn if you apply it to your skin, is it good for injuries or to help loosen muscles before or after a game - would love to hear about it.

Perhaps you should start a thread on it.

Why is that footballers smell ligaments - I guess you caught me out there.

The only change rooms I have ever been in have had a waft of deep heat, oil and the odd bad fart from a teammate.

I guess when you play at as high a level as you must things change.

My curiousity has peaked, I really would like to know what ligament's smell like in AFL change rooms.

Cheers

hodgy

[This message has been edited by kymhodgemansmo (edited 17 January 2001).]

[The invisible mullet]

I know that he is a "great" footballer but I am glad that Lloyd didn't come to North.

[kymhodgemansmo]

Mullet,

You think we are much better off with the Moptop than Lloyd.

I expected better from you.

Cheers

[Carey_is_King]

KHM....
Warrior.....

Peace.

Let's all agree that Cochrane is a sorry excuse for an AFL footballer, and Lloyd is a pretty (emphasis on that word) good one.
Go forth and insult the wankers from Port Power Failure or the Bummers, and stop fighting among ourselves.

Jesus, listen to me!!!! I can't believe I am writing this stuff.

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Trample the Weak,
Hurdle the Dead.

[Darky]

Group hug everyone!



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Defy Gravity - Embrace Gravity - Transcend Gravity... Become The Sound...

[kymhodgemansmo]

All we are saying - is give peace a chance


CIK, I can't believe you are actually discouraging argument - although it would seem quite pointless.

But I am curious to know what ligaments smell like - I dont think I owuld be the only one if we were all being honest and not trying to diffuse situations.

But your advice is noted and taken.

Cheers
hodgy

[The invisible mullet]

ha ha love your work. Actually Kimhodgemansmo I'd rather we had someone other than Cochrane but I'm not sure I'd like to see that stager Lloyd playing for North. Steven King would have been another thing...

Originally posted by Carey_is_King:
KHM....
Warrior.....

Peace.

Let's all agree that Cochrane is a sorry excuse for an AFL footballer, and Lloyd is a pretty (emphasis on that word) good one.
Go forth and insult the wankers from Port Power Failure or the Bummers, and stop fighting among ourselves.

Jesus, listen to me!!!! I can't believe I am writing this stuff.

[Silvertail]

" Makepeace....not the most skilled player "
Talk about a hack! His Mum is still trying to teach him how to do up his boots!

[Malibu]

That's a bit rough Silvertail.
Why don't you pull on the boots and show us your stuff.

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If you see me getting mighty,
If you see me getting high,
Knock me down,
I'm not bigger than Life

R.H.C.P.

[DOC]

Those comments are very DANGERous Silvertail would you like to inform the N.M.F.C supporters of the last first year Melbourne player to play 22 games.

Thats if there ever was one..

The Skull is not the most gifted player but he has a go. You all will se a different player wearing 35 this hear . I thought he was a little hesitant last year and looked to shepard instead of getting the ball himself. When he does get the ball he at least hits a target unlike some of our players. As for players I think need to step up this year, Lange and Hay both look good but havent taken the next step.

Go The Skull !!!
J.I.T.C
THE DOC

[Darky]

I think Hay might struggle, Doc.
He's been delisted http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif

[35eye]

Does anyone want a recap of Moe's favourite son's 22 games season?

Check this out...
http://moefc.dhs.org/html/makepeace.html

Go on, you'll be glad you did.

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by Malibu:
That's a bit rough Silvertail.
Why don't you pull on the boots and show us your stuff.


Did Jimmy Barnes write those lyrics? Cause Im sure hoping you didnt. Dont give up your day job.

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by DOC:
Those comments are very DANGERous Silvertail would you like to inform the N.M.F.C supporters of the last first year Melbourne player to play 22 games.

Thats if there ever was one..

The Skull is not the most gifted player but he has a go. You all will se a different player wearing 35 this hear . I thought he was a little hesitant last year and looked to shepard instead of getting the ball himself. When he does get the ball he at least hits a target unlike some of our players. As for players I think need to step up this year, Lange and Hay both look good but havent taken the next step.

Go The Skull !!!
J.I.T.C
THE DOC Well Doc-Boy, Guy Rigoni played 25 games in 1998 as a first year player [and what a year he had, although no flag. I wonder where that went - dont answer that one]
And dont forget Brad Green [20 games] and Cameron Bruce [19 games] in 2000 who really played and made a difference on the field.

OH BUT WAIT THERES MORE......Apparently a M.F.C player by the name of Shane Woewodin who started his stella career in 1998 played 25 games in his first year. He then went on play 22 in 1999, and then topped that off by playing 25 games in 2000 AND HE WON THE BROWNLOW FOOL! Keep up with the stats.

[Malibu]

Can I have some of the stuff you're on Silvertail cause I don't know what the **** your on about with Jimmy Barnes and giving up my day job with some remark I made.

If you didn't understand it, which is highly likely, I was alluding to you trying to do better at AFL level than Skull. He's no Wayne Carey but at least the little guy is giving it a go and Denis seems to have faith in him by having him play 22 games last year.

Out of interest, are you a Roos supporter?

Time for your medication me thinks.

http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/tongue.gif

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If you see me getting mighty,
If you see me getting high,
Knock me down,
I'm not bigger than Life

R.H.C.P.

[DOC]

Well answer this

Which year did the M.F.C collect the wooden spoon in the 90's?

Which year or years did they breech the salary cap?

When was the last time M.F.C won a flag and where you there?

Even Collingwood has one two since then.

Keep up the fickle support, with your tartan rug , picnic basket and tweed jacket.

One surprising year followed by a slide back down the ladder thats how it goes .Correct?

Go the Skull !!!
J.I.T.C
The Doc

[Rooboy 96]

Originally posted by DOC:
Well answer this

Which year did the M.F.C collect the wooden spoon in the 90's? 1997

Which year or years did they breech the salary cap? 1997

When was the last time M.F.C won a flag and where you there? 1964 - BEFORE I WAS BORN...

Even Collingwood has one two since then.

Keep up the fickle support, with your tartan rug , picnic basket and tweed jacket.

One surprising year followed by a slide back down the ladder thats how it goes .Correct? YES...

Go the Skull !!!
J.I.T.C
The Doc


I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION... WHAT YEAR DID THE MELBOURNE MEMBERS VOTE TO MERGE???

[Darky]

Originally posted by Malibu:

Out of interest, are you a Roos supporter?




No, goiing by the profile this ****stick is actually a Melbourne supporter who is so wrapped up in bringing the Roos down, that they have made 3 of their 4 posts on the Roos board. Now THATS what I call not having a clue. Silvertail, f@@k off to your own board and make sure you put your defective brain back in its box and take it with you when you leave. Be a good little troll and shut the door on your way out.

[Rooboy 96]

Darky... can't we have some fun with the fool first???

[Shinboners]

Now, now guys....Silvertail is gracing us with its presences because it knows that it will never, ever get any intelligent football chat over on the Melbourne board.

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by Shinboners:
Now, now guys....Silvertail is gracing us with its presences because it knows that it will never, ever get any intelligent football chat over on the Melbourne board.

Well hello again, fellow footy lovers. It seems that I have caused quite a stir in the Kanga ranks. Its good to see sooo many fantastic responses.
Shinboner, intelligent football conversation? I beg to differ. Although at least you guys actually do talk about football, and not just about what gets you excited about Shane Woewodins' body.
I will back later for some light reading.

[Malibu]

We look forward to your return Silvertail, nothing like a fellow opposition supporter coming here to visit.

[warrior]

Silvertail is not appropriate for a Roo!


warrior http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif

[35eye]

Originally posted by Darky:

No, goiing by the profile this ****stick is actually a Melbourne supporter who is so wrapped up in bringing the Roos down, that they have made 3 of their 4 posts on the Roos board. Now THATS what I call not having a clue. Silvertail, f@@k off to your own board and make sure you put your defective brain back in its box and take it with you when you leave. Be a good little troll and shut the door on your way out.

Oh ok, I thought in keeping with this topic, the tool was actually another North supporter bagging Makey.

[DOC]

Silvertail

before your gone for ever please answer my questions.

I dont know too much about your pathetic club..

Go the Skull !!!
J.I.T.C
THE DOC

[35eye]

Can anyone here name Melbourne's captain?

I don't really want to know, I just wonder if any of you all care as little as I do?

[Shinboners]

Melbourne have a captain? I thought they had a head prefect. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/wink.gif

[kymhodgemansmo]

Isn't it that big guy with a shithouse haircut who cant kick goals in finals??????

[Daphne]

Originally posted by 35eye:
Can anyone here name Melbourne's captain?

I don't really want to know, I just wonder if any of you all care as little as I do?No but I know his fishing buddy is Chandlier.

[Rooboy 96]

Originally posted by kymhodgemansmo:
Isn't it that big guy with a shithouse haircut who cant kick goals in finals??????

you mean Gerry Lion????

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by kymhodgemansmo:
Isn't it that big guy with a shithouse haircut who cant kick goals in finals??????

Football Fact No.1532 [Section 43] -
It is important to sport a good haircut at all times when on or off the field. This will ensure that you will play well.

Please, haircuts and football. When has it really mattered! Keep eating your cut oranges ladies.

[Rooboy 96]

Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
I HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION... WHAT YEAR DID THE MELBOURNE MEMBERS VOTE TO MERGE???

still no answer to my question...

[Malibu]

Silvertail, would I be wrong to assume that you sport a Mullet?

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If you see me getting mighty,
If you see me getting high,
Knock me down,
I'm not bigger than Life

R.H.C.P.

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
still no answer to my question...

This M.F.C member didn't vote for any merger.
I know what it means to have a club with Tradition [Notice capital T].
Also, there was absolutely no way I wanted my club to become "The Dorks".

[Shinboners]

Silvertail

Rooboy96 asked the question, "What year did Melbourne vote to merge?" NOT, "Did you vote for the Melbourne merger with Hawthorn".

So, if it's not too difficult, please answer Rooboy's question.

[Rooboy 96]

Shinners... I am starting to give up on silvertail... just another backflip kid if you ask me...

[Shinboners]

Not too sure what it is with Melbourne fans. They should really change the name of their club as their attitude shames the name our fine city. Not just on the boards, but in the chatroom too, they're happy to dish it out and then have a big long sook when you have a go back.

And they can't answer a simple question. http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/confused.gif

[Silvertail]

Sorry to take sooo long to reply, but I actually work for a living.
Anyway, in answer to your TOUGH[?] question, it was at the end of 1996. Gee I suppose now your going to ask where we finished that year, and who won the flag.
Now concentrate boys and girls....smart replies only.

[Malibu]

C'mon Silvertail, answer the boys questions.

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If you see me getting mighty,
If you see me getting high,
Knock me down,
I'm not bigger than Life

R.H.C.P.

[35eye]

Does that Irish git still play for Melbourne? If so, they should make him captain this year.

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by Malibu:
C'mon Silvertail, answer the boys questions.


Cant you read roo? look above.

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by 35eye:
Does that Irish git still play for Melbourne? If so, they should make him captain this year.

Do you mean THE 2001 VICTORIAN OF THE YEAR?
Give the man some credit.

[35eye]

I was giving him credit. He is pretty popular with the blue rinse set. They should make him captain.

Did they make him Victorian of the year? Gee I could have sworn he wasn't a local.

[Daphne]

Originally posted by Silvertail:
Football Fact No.1532 [Section 43] -
It is important to sport a good haircut at all times when on or off the field. This will ensure that you will play well.

Please, haircuts and football. When has it really mattered! Keep eating your cut oranges ladies.
Do they still hand out those football rules books to the Melbourne Supporters, does it tell you when to go rah rah rah as well.

[35eye]

And what is the deal with this Red Legs thing? Sounds like a chorus line or something.

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by 35eye:
And what is the deal with this Red Legs thing? Sounds like a chorus line or something.


Thats where our supporters sit mate. Give it a couple of years and you too can have something similar, but you may have to travel north to see them play.
Go the North Sydney Roos!

[Silvertail]

Originally posted by 35eye:
I was giving him credit. He is pretty popular with the blue rinse set. They should make him captain.

Did they make him Victorian of the year? Gee I could have sworn he wasn't a local.

I was going to reply to your humorous message, but I thought you may not understand what I have to say.

[Malibu]

We don't understand what you're saying anyway.

North Sydney Roos - oooh how original.

Now go away and think of a better comeback, cause honestly, that doesn't upset me at all.

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If you see me getting mighty,
If you see me getting high,
Knock me down,
I'm not bigger than Life

R.H.C.P.

[35eye]

Originally posted by Silvertail:
I was going to reply to your humorous message, but I thought you may not understand what I have to say.




Yep, you lost me days ago.