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Hmmmm Pagan or Barassi
ummmmmmmmmmmmmm Pagan
Smokey
Too young to remember Barassi, therefore Pagan.
Aussie_Roo
5 Feb 2001, 11:02
Pagan - he is one of our own. Barassi was a great coach, but he is Melbourne.
best coach: Pagan
best appointment: Barassi (changed the culture to a winning one)
Having said that, Pagan may have done the same if given the opportunity
Pagan.
With all due respect to Barassi, looking at the players in his sides in the mid 70s, it was much like Essendon of 2000. They flew on auto-pilot and with that sort of skill a monkey could have coached them to a flag.
Pagan
The turnaround in the teams fortune since he took over is amazing.
And to continually keep them up top or thereabout in an era were the competition is so even, other teams performances fluctuate from year to year and in a system that rewards the underperformers.
Carey_is_King
5 Feb 2001, 15:04
Pagan is the best North have ever had, at least statistically.
That's not to belittle Barassi who was brilliant, and before his time in many respects. Don't forget he coached in the days when discipline was not enforced (though he tried) and players often had a late night with few beers and a smoke the night before a game. As someone else mentioned, he changed the culture at North.
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Trample the Weak,
Hurdle the Dead.
Pagan....will be remembered as one of the greatest ever at any club when he finishes. A great football brain.
Cheers, ArdenSt
Shinboners
6 Feb 2001, 03:39
For all of the reasons given above, my vote goes to Pagan.
Rooboy 96
6 Feb 2001, 05:08
Pagan for me... he does better with less overall talent...
But Barassi was like a messiah... leading our football club to the treasured land for the first time...
We may have little money... but boy can we play the game...
Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
But Barassi was like a messiah...
No, he's just a very naughty boy! http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/biggrin.gif
Sorry, somebody had to do it... http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/rolleyes.gif
Rooboy 96
6 Feb 2001, 05:50
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ you've lost me...
I understood Darky. Fwee Woderwick!
On the subject at hand. A few years ago Keith Greig said that North should have won more premierships in the 70's with the personnel we had and actually "blamed" Barassi for our failure to do so. He said that if we'd had a "better" coach we would have been more successful! I defer to the dual Brownlow Medallist. Pagan by a mile!!
Carey_is_King
6 Feb 2001, 07:46
Originally posted by Rooboy 96:
ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm........ you've lost me...
Refer to the Monty Python movie entitled "The Life of Brian".
(His mother was raped by a Roman!
Raped you say ?
Well yes, at first.)
Very funny movie, and I am pleased to announce that Bwodewick is fwee at last.
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Trample the Weak,
Hurdle the Dead.
Rooboy 96
6 Feb 2001, 09:00
I am gunna have to hire it now... I was trying to live a Monty Python free life... oh well next time maybe...
"what about you man....
do you fnd it funny when I mention the name BIGGUS DIKKUS" ???
ptw
Rooboy 96
10 Feb 2001, 07:49
Voting so far...
D Pagan 11-0
just a walk in the park...
Shinboners
10 Feb 2001, 08:30
I'd like to see North 11-0 at the halfway mark of the 2001 season....another walk in the park http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif
choppyhard
10 Feb 2001, 16:08
Denis Pagan is one of the four people that all North supporters owe a debt to. Without them we would be long gone. They are (in no particular order), Wayne Carey, Denis Pagan, Greg Miller and Ron Casey.
Denis Pagan, all time supercoach.
THE ICON
13 Feb 2001, 15:25
BARASSI
If he had Carey as a player North would never lose a match.
It is a matter of being in the right spot at the right time and pagan can count himself very lucky.
THE ICON
Barassi gets my vote because if I could remember he gave us a winning attitude.
Rooboy 96
14 Feb 2001, 07:37
and the real supercoach is....
D Pagan 13
R Barassi
giantroo
16 Dec 2007, 19:02
*BUMP* Pagan VS Barrassi? Pagan for sure. Could not pick Ron after what he said this week.
theduckfan
16 Dec 2007, 19:03
Pagan
NICK_ROOBOY83
16 Dec 2007, 19:08
Pagan:thumbsu:
NICK_ROOBOY83
16 Dec 2007, 20:00
Laidley.
:D:D:D:D
jacko57
16 Dec 2007, 22:51
Pagan & Barassi are the only real contenders.
I'll give it to Pagan because :
* 2 flags
* he also made a great contribution over many years as U19 coach
* got us to 3rd in 97 when Carey missed 2/3 of the season
* got us to the finals in the wake of the Carey exit
* you can make a direct comparison of how essentially the same personnel performed under Schimma
The only real black mark is the 98GF. ****, we should have won that one !!!!!
But you can say the same about Barassi. With all due respect to the great Hawthorn, Richmond & Carlton teams of that era, we should have won 3 flags in the 70s.
sherrinorburley
17 Dec 2007, 07:15
Dennis Pagan number 1 coach for North so far. Also played in the early 1970's team.
Back on board as a player in 2007-8. Can disregard the Carlton recent affiliation with that of Carey's Adelaide. Club champion. :thumbsu:
schimma3
17 Dec 2007, 07:19
Pagan.
With all due respect to Barassi, looking at the players in his sides in the mid 70s, it was much like Essendon of 2000. They flew on auto-pilot and with that sort of skill a monkey could have coached them to a flag.
Agree, an unlike Essendon of 2000 we won more than one flag. Thanks Denis.
Wild Kangaroo
17 Dec 2007, 08:29
Easy.
Pagan- Coach of the team of the Century.
The Teflon Dean
17 Dec 2007, 11:21
Dean Laidley.
The Other Dean
17 Dec 2007, 15:11
The bus Arch donated to the club.