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Essendonfc_4_lyfe
6 Oct 2008, 15:46
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=397&ContentID=99813
Comments?
Not suprised that Prescott is intereted in him, this was also mentioned in the MX here about Yarren being considered. He looks a talent but as always there are other to consider for pick 5.
Has anyone seen much of Yarren, does the comparison to Shaun Burgoyne match?
kelvin_sheedy
6 Oct 2008, 17:30
His video highlights are the best of any draftee.
Moves like Burgoyne and looks to have serious x factor.
I've read that he's lazy but others say he's not.
On talent alone I wouldn't mind getting him at 5. Him or Hartlett for me.
Windas_Magic
6 Oct 2008, 17:32
His video highlights are the best of any draftee.
Moves like Burgoyne and looks to have serious x factor.
I've read that he's lazy but others say he's not.
On talent alone I wouldn't mind getting him at 5. Him or Hartlett for me.
That's because highlight reels show your best. And his best is simply sublime, but his worst is just shocking, lazy football.
Could be a gun, or another Collard or Sampi
bomberz08
6 Oct 2008, 17:39
That's because highlight reels show your best. And his best is simply sublime, but his worst is just shocking, lazy football.
Could be a gun, or another Collard or Sampi
We already have a few of those players
bombersno1
6 Oct 2008, 20:40
I'll shoot someone if we drafted him at 5. Much better options. If we want a guy with X Factor Sidebottom or Hartlett is the man. Pick 5 for a small forward is over the odds too
Yarran's upside is that he is playing senior football.
dirtywhitepacker
6 Oct 2008, 23:14
Hmm, a "potentially" lazy small forward with hamstring issues at pick 5? :mad:
Shane Hird
6 Oct 2008, 23:18
Painfully shy teenager who has been a consistant goal kicker in a very good WAFL senior side that made the GF.
He's a gamble. Much like Longy was when he started. Will he adapt to Melbourne life? Will he be able to handle the pressure of the big league? Who knows.
His old man is in jail here,so he wouldn't be able to visit him as often and he wouldn't have the rest of his family around.
I think he's to much of a risk. This is no time to cross our fingers and hope for the best. We can't afford to waste this early pick.
Then again.....Jetta,Yarran and Monfries as 3 small forward options....????
AndyLesPaul
7 Oct 2008, 08:13
Painfully shy teenager who has been a consistant goal kicker in a very good WAFL senior side that made the GF.
He's a gamble. Much like Longy was when he started. Will he adapt to Melbourne life? Will he be able to handle the pressure of the big league? Who knows.
His old man is in jail here,so he wouldn't be able to visit him as often and he wouldn't have the rest of his family around.
I think he's to much of a risk. This is no time to cross our fingers and hope for the best. We can't afford to waste this early pick.
Then again.....Jetta,Yarran and Monfries as 3 small forward options....????
I wouldnt waste pick 5 on him
if we have the choose of anyone other than Vickery rich natanui and watts.
theres way to much more choices.
bombersno1
7 Oct 2008, 09:21
Yarran's upside is that he is playing senior football.
Downiside is he is lazy:thumbsd:
The only problem i have with him is his consistancy over the whole game. In the games i have seen him in he has been staedy with a few very good moments.
One thing i did like about him was in one of the champ games he spent a 1/2 in defence and did a good job. Got a few possesions and used the ball well coming off half back. It showed to me that he had a few more stings to his bow and that he was not just a falshy half forward who may have midfield potential.
He is not in the top 5 of my prefered choices for pick 5 but he does have some qualities that are impossible not to like.
Painfully shy teenager who has been a consistant goal kicker in a very good WAFL senior side that made the GF.
He's a gamble. Much like Longy was when he started. Will he adapt to Melbourne life? Will he be able to handle the pressure of the big league? Who knows.
His old man is in jail here,so he wouldn't be able to visit him as often and he wouldn't have the rest of his family around.
I think he's to much of a risk. This is no time to cross our fingers and hope for the best. We can't afford to waste this early pick.
Then again.....Jetta,Yarran and Monfries as 3 small forward options....????
dont forget about Alwyn.... better player than all of those 3
cocobonobo
16 Oct 2008, 13:06
would you consider picking him up if he is available with our 2nd round pick?
bombersno1
16 Oct 2008, 13:27
would you consider picking him up if he is available with our 2nd round pick?
Yes, but he won't last till then. Brisbane are dead keen on him
Essendonfc_4_lyfe
16 Oct 2008, 13:38
Yes, but he won't last till then. Brisbane are dead keen on him
Where'd you hear that?
Ludwig van Bertstare
16 Oct 2008, 13:51
Where'd you hear that?
Drafts and Trading board.
Essendonfc_4_lyfe
16 Oct 2008, 13:56
Drafts and Trading board.
Valid?
Ludwig van Bertstare
16 Oct 2008, 13:58
Valid?
I was joking. I don't know where she heard it from.
bombersno1
16 Oct 2008, 14:50
Where'd you hear that?
Brisbane board, quite a few have said the same thing. I don't mind, they can have him.
Brisbane board, quite a few have said the same thing. I don't mind, they can have him.
And instead we will get hop-along Swift? Thanks for adding nothing to a thread for the hundredth time.
bombersno1
16 Oct 2008, 21:14
And instead we will get hop-along Swift? Thanks for adding nothing to a thread for the hundredth time.
I'd be happy with Hartlett, Swift, Ziebell, or Sidebottom, I don't mind which one, as long as it is a GENUINE MIDFIELDER not a POSSIBLE MIDFIELDER!
Here you go bombersno1. Rather than reapeting bull#### posts from people who wouldn't know where their arse was even if they had their hands on it here is an article from one of his former coaches who by the way is currently our assistant coach.
Intstead of poluting the talls at no 5 with your garbage have a read of this as it will contain more facts that some of the posts you seem to have made as fact.!
Everyone's talking about Chris
Category: News
Words: Ashley Prescott
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For all the amazing football talents that have roamed the wide spaces of the picturesque Clontarf Oval, few would have a story like Chris Yarran.
He is the type of sportsman that as a young boy you dreamed of being, I witnessed this as I made the journey up the grassy slopes to my car with a group of young Mazenod boys after a recent Cable Division game. Twenty minutes earlier Yarran had dissected them; good players stand out in schoolboy football, but few do it like Chris Yarran does. I listened intently without them knowing as they described in detail how he could kick both sides of his body, how they thought he wasn’t that quick, but did you see the way he accelerated out of the centre, or how does he handball over his shoulder directly to a teammate running at full pace toward goal?
For the record, Chris kicked 6 goals in 40 minutes of football, more impressive though was he set as many up, and his face lights up when he sees his less talented team mates finish off his work. He doesn’t know it yet but he is a leader too! You simply find yourself mesmerized by his talents.
To watch him play football is a fascinating experience, and you can almost see his brain ticking over; he is like a cat stalking a sparrow as he hunts the football, and has a unique ability read the play two stages ahead. I was telling a few of my old Richmond mates recently of some of the prodigious talents and characters I have witnessed in my short time at Clontarf. I spoke of Nigel Collard’s determination & spirit for life, Jetta’s practice ethic and how he pushed away the negative influences that attempted to drag him down the wrong path, Krakouer’s resilience, self belief, and resolve to go after what he wanted, and Ryder’s humility and respect for others.
But the story I enjoy telling most was in Clontarf’s historic win against Assumption College on a chilly but dry August afternoon in Kilmore. Yarran tracked the football from a Centre Square bounce down that was rolling away from him towards the right hand attacking flank, sensing the pressure from behind he knew if he took possession the Assumption player would immediately tackle him from behind. Nathan Krakouer was flying past him on the right hand side and out of mid air he deftly kicked the ball off the outside of his foot twenty meters and hit him lace out. Krakouer naturally finished off from 45m metres out. I remember looking across to Kevin Mitchell, shaking my head with disbelief; Mitch just shrugged his shoulders as our focus went to the next centre bounce.
After the game we went back and enjoyed Ray Carroll’s hospitality with a well needed cup of coffee and piping hot sausage roll. As usual the Assumption boys lined up on one side of the room and the Clontarf boys on the other, (apart of course from Trent Franklyn-Smith who was in the kitchen talking to the Ladies Committee). Doing the right thing I went over to have a chat with the Assumption boys who where slightly sheepish after their heavy loss. The Assumption boys know there football and have a rich appreciation for history, you only have to look around their small change room and see such faces as Richmond legend ‘Saint Francis’ Bourke, Brownlow Medalist Shane Crawford, AFL Coach Neale Daniher and the multi-talented Simon O’Donnell. At Assumption they love their champions and know class when they see it. “How old is that number 23?,” came from one of the lads. “15 I told him”. “I watched Jetta (Leroy) play last year, I reckon he is better than him,” came from another. They were of course talking about Chris Yarran. I then sat with the boys for another 5 minutes and briefly explained why the Program exists. They were interested and had some understanding, but it was only football they were really interested in.
Are our boys that different?
In the past 3 months a lot has happened in his Chris’s life and there is plenty on in the horizon, with his future looking bright. After he flogged me at table tennis recently, I caught up with him briefly for a chat; he hates talking about himself, and that’s what makes him even more interesting.
AP- How did you find your trip to South Africa?
CY- I was pretty nervous about going to another country, I have been around most of Australia, but 11 hours on a plane was hard. It was good to see how other people live.
AP- What other sports do you like?
CY- I like cricket, I have played Squash a few times and like it. (For the record Chris is captain of the Baggy Reds Clontarf Cricket team and averages 60 with the bat and bowls very lively fast medium as well as leg spin. The WACA contacted me about him; he has the reflexes of Clive Lloyd and the eye of Vivian Richards)
AP- You have a fair bit on the go at the moment, how are you coping with it all?
CY- I have stuff on every night with training, State 18’s but it is all going well, Krakouer (Nathan) and Brad (Dick) pulled out of school and didn’t graduate last year, just relied on football, I don’t want to do this, I want to stick around all year and make sure I get my Graduation.
AP- Your life at home and around the streets can be pretty tough, how do you feel when you are playing football?
CY- You can forget about everything and just watch the ball, I love playing football and I love winning, just playing is so much fun.
jetta2davey
19 Oct 2008, 07:59
great article.
As i mentioned in the Hurley thread, we spent more time speaking to yarran than we did any other candidate.
interesting read, never seen the kid but the words sound good
Wahooti Fandango
19 Oct 2008, 10:15
I'd be happy with Hartlett, Swift, Ziebell, or Sidebottom, I don't mind which one, as long as it is a GENUINE MIDFIELDER not a POSSIBLE MIDFIELDER!
I agree. However, if we think that he (Yarran) can develop into a genuine midfielder then he would be worth a punt. This talk of off-field issues is just crap and it detracts from the conversation at hand.
bomber69
19 Oct 2008, 13:35
Im a fan of Yarrans, I think he could become a star with a move into the midfield after he develops a better tank. Quick question first, does anyone have his Draft Camp results? Main ones I am looking for would be his 20m sprint time, vertical leap, agility test and beep test.
Shane Hird
19 Oct 2008, 15:29
Im a fan of Yarrans, I think he could become a star with a move into the midfield after he develops a better tank. Quick question first, does anyone have his Draft Camp results?
Main ones I am looking for would be his 20m sprint time, vertical leap, agility test and beep test.
Why? So you can base your whole opinion about him on those results?
bombersno1
19 Oct 2008, 15:33
I agree. However, if we think that he (Yarran) can develop into a genuine midfielder then he would be worth a punt. This talk of off-field issues is just crap and it detracts from the conversation at hand.
We do not have the list to be taking PUNTS, safe picks should be the way to go
Shane Hird
19 Oct 2008, 16:36
We do not have the list to be taking PUNTS, safe picks should be the way to go
Is there such thing as a total 'safe' draft pick?
We do not have the list to be taking PUNTS, safe picks should be the way to go
That would mean no Swift.
Ludwig van Bertstare
19 Oct 2008, 17:12
That would mean no Swift.
Swift is hot though!
would you consider picking him up if he is available with our 2nd round pick?
No way will he be around by then, should go top 10.
That would mean no Swift.
Swift is hot though!
Pff, stop joking and get serious people. Swift tore it up in the u/16's, he's guaranteed to be a star. In fact I think we all know he will be the next Joel Selwood, only better looking.
Wahooti Fandango
19 Oct 2008, 18:45
We do not have the list to be taking PUNTS, safe picks should be the way to go
No complaints here, Sidebottom all the way. :thumbsu:
bomber69
19 Oct 2008, 19:36
Why? So you can base your whole opinion about him on those results?
When did I ever say that?:rolleyes: According to your logic the Draft Camp is useless? I wanted to know those things because they are supposed to be his biggest assets and demerits. Unlike you I actually have an idea of what im talking about when it comes to the draft as I have seen most of the players in consideration for pick 5 to 23 play.
Shane Hird
19 Oct 2008, 20:18
When did I ever say that?:rolleyes: According to your logic the Draft Camp is useless? I wanted to know those things because they are supposed to be his biggest assets and demerits. Unlike you I actually have an idea of what im talking about when it comes to the draft as I have seen most of the players in consideration for pick 5 to 23 play.
You didn't. Just asking a question. No need to get shirty.
bombersno1
19 Oct 2008, 20:21
That would mean no Swift.
Fine, but no Yarran at the same time. I want a elite midfielder with pick 5, not a small forward. I am firmly on Hartlett at pick 5 as he is what we need. Would not mind Ziebell but I think Hartlett suits our needs more, a bit quicker as well.
bombersno1
19 Oct 2008, 20:22
No complaints here, Sidebottom all the way. :thumbsu:
Hartlett for mine but at least we agree on a midfielder!:thumbsu:
bombersno1
19 Oct 2008, 20:24
Swift is hot though!
It is not the only reason..although he is very cute!
Fine, but no Yarran at the same time. I want a elite midfielder with pick 5, not a small forward. I am firmly on Hartlett at pick 5 as he is what we need. Would not mind Ziebell but I think Hartlett suits our needs more, a bit quicker as well.
Hartlett for mine but at least we agree on a midfielder!:thumbsu:
You posted that you want Hartlett then in the post directly underneath it you do it again.
Give it a rest FFS, you've been told often enough now....
Kruzering
19 Oct 2008, 20:47
ant555, I tore mazenod a new a**hole for 6 years of school footy and for the last 5 years in the ammos, I wonder if essendon might consider me with their first round draft selection. I reckon there could be a slight increase in standard from the Mazenod school boys footy program to the AFL.
Please take him at no5, I want the choice of hartlett, hurley, zeibell or sidebottom at pick 6.
Smyth94
20 Oct 2008, 06:39
ant555, I tore mazenod a new a**hole for 6 years of school footy and for the last 5 years in the ammos, I wonder if essendon might consider me with their first round draft selection. I reckon there could be a slight increase in standard from the Mazenod school boys footy program to the AFL.
Please take him at no5, I want the choice of hartlett, hurley, zeibell or sidebottom at pick 6.
Don't plead with us...we don't have any say into who Essendon draft :cool:
ant555, I tore mazenod a new a**hole for 6 years of school footy and for the last 5 years in the ammos, I wonder if essendon might consider me with their first round draft selection. I reckon there could be a slight increase in standard from the Mazenod school boys footy program to the AFL.
Please take him at no5, I want the choice of hartlett, hurley, zeibell or sidebottom at pick 6.
Good one hero. There is probably a difference between school boys foot and WAFL seniors or under 18 champs that Yarren has been playing as wellCome back when you have something worthwhile adding to the discussion!
Fine, but no Yarran at the same time. I want a elite midfielder with pick 5, not a small forward. I am firmly on Hartlett at pick 5 as he is what we need. Would not mind Ziebell but I think Hartlett suits our needs more, a bit quicker as well.
Why are you saying Yarran is just a small forward ? Yes he has been playing there in the WAFL against the big boys but the kid has played midfield.
During the Champs he played forward, half back, wing and had a couple of raotations through the middle. If you bothered to read the article you would have known he played midfield during his school footy.
See you have done another flip flop :) How many times are you going to change your choice ?
Wahooti Fandango
20 Oct 2008, 10:42
Why are you saying Yarran is just a small forward ? Yes he has been playing there in the WAFL against the big boys but the kid has played midfield.
During the Champs he played forward, half back, wing and had a couple of raotations through the middle. If you bothered to read the article you would have known he played midfield during his school footy.
See you have done another flip flop :) How many times are you going to change your choice ?
Yet, as you and many others have said, there is a big difference between playing in the midfield in the WAFL or Under 18 Championships and the AFL. Obviously we do not know yet whether any of this years draftees will definitely make it as elite mids in the AFL. Yet, some have shown more than others including during the draft camp (e.g. beep test and 3km run). Has Yarran shown enough to suggest that he could develop into an AFL midfielder? I am not saying that Sidebotom will make it as an AFL mid, but he has shown that he has the required engine (at DC). I am not suggesting that I know anywhere near as much as you ant, but was just curious as to whether you think Yarran could make it as an elite AFL midfielder?
Yet, as you and many others have said, there is a big difference between playing in the midfield in the WAFL or Under 18 Championships and the AFL. Obviously we do not know yet whether any of this years draftees will definitely make it as elite mids in the AFL. Yet, some have shown more than others including during the draft camp (e.g. beep test and 3km run). Has Yarran shown enough to suggest that he could develop into an AFL midfielder? I am not saying that Sidebotom will make it as an AFL mid, but he has shown that he has the required engine (at DC). I am not suggesting that I know anywhere near as much as you ant, but was just curious as to whether you think Yarran could make it as an elite AFL midfielder?
He has the skills. It is yet to be seen if he could make it as a full time Midifielder. He has played off half back where he showed he was able to play a bit defensively. The question mark would be will he be able to play continually through the midfield.
He ranks 5th on my list of prefered midfielders but that is not to say i have him in the wrong spot.
My original point was that people who have no idea are continually saying he is a small forward simply becasue that is where he is playing in the WAFL.
It is also a fact that he has shown some outstanding form in the midfield at lower levels. Yes it is a step up but you do not lose the skills or ability to read the play or your vision.
He is not my prefered choice at 5 but he is a quality prospect who has more going for him than a lot of others in the draft.
Wahooti Fandango
20 Oct 2008, 11:45
Well explained ant. Who is the top of your preferred midfielders for us? Sidebottom? Harlett? Ziebell?
LemmingMaster
20 Oct 2008, 12:25
I've got this feeling that Yarran will divide supporters opinion, especially if he is drafted in the top 10.
He had a massive workload this year and was playing slightly injured and against men. I keep getting this feeling that if he was not an indigenous player, then many such terms as lazy would not be mentioned nearly as much.
He may not suit the Bombers, I have Hartlett going to you guys, but he has just as much chance to succeed as any other top 10 pick.
Kruzering
20 Oct 2008, 13:55
I've got this feeling that Yarran will divide supporters opinion, especially if he is drafted in the top 10.
He had a massive workload this year and was playing slightly injured and against men. I keep getting this feeling that if he was not an indigenous player, then many such terms as lazy would not be mentioned nearly as much.
He may not suit the Bombers, I have Hartlett going to you guys, but he has just as much chance to succeed as any other top 10 pick.
What about his dad being in jail as a character reference?
Doesn't mean his a bad kid, but im sure he won't score any brownie points for it. Krakour just went to jail under the father/son rule.
I also don't think ants example of a fluke soccer pass is enough to get this kid drafted in the top 10.
bombersno1
20 Oct 2008, 13:57
Why are you saying Yarran is just a small forward ? Yes he has been playing there in the WAFL against the big boys but the kid has played midfield.
During the Champs he played forward, half back, wing and had a couple of raotations through the middle. If you bothered to read the article you would have known he played midfield during his school footy.
See you have done another flip flop :) How many times are you going to change your choice ?
In other words he is NOT a fulltime midfielder. Yes, that is the reason I don't want the bloke at pick 5. He is flashy and is classy no doubt but I want a GENUINE A-Grade midfielder and Hamish Hartlett fits that mould (seeing as Swift won't be gambled on at 5)
Ludwig van Bertstare
20 Oct 2008, 14:03
No one is a genuine a-grade midfielder. They may turn out to be, but it's not a guarantee.
What about his dad being in jail as a character reference?
What about it?
Remembering that it would be a non sequitur to say that he must have/will have problems because his father had problems in the past.
Also, guilt by association is an invalid way to determine someone character, especially when the association is familial and isn't voluntary in nature.
LemmingMaster
20 Oct 2008, 15:08
What about his dad being in jail as a character reference?
Basically what you're trying to tell me, he is lazy because his dad is in jail?
There have been many great footballers come from less than desired family backgrounds. Gary Ablett and from memory Wayne Carey are two that spring to mind.
TheGeneral
20 Oct 2008, 15:16
What about his dad being in jail as a character reference?
Doesn't mean his a bad kid, but im sure he won't score any brownie points for it. Krakour just went to jail under the father/son rule.
I also don't think ants example of a fluke soccer pass is enough to get this kid drafted in the top 10.
Tosser...
What about his dad being in jail as a character reference?
Doesn't mean his a bad kid, but im sure he won't score any brownie points for it. Krakour just went to jail under the father/son rule.
I also don't think ants example of a fluke soccer pass is enough to get this kid drafted in the top 10.
His dad being in jail has not stopped him from making into the State side or Playing WAFL seniors as an 18 year old. His dad being in jail has more than likely helped him becasue he has put all his efforts into his footy.
And it was not my example, i just posted the news article. If you really think that one specail soccer pass in a school footy games is why people rate him highly then you seriously have no idea.
In other words he is NOT a fulltime midfielder. Yes, that is the reason I don't want the bloke at pick 5. He is flashy and is classy no doubt but I want a GENUINE A-Grade midfielder and Hamish Hartlett fits that mould (seeing as Swift won't be gambled on at 5)
You know what , no one really gives a stuff what you want becasue you have been proven as a fraud who simply has an opinion based on what others write. How many more changes to your opinion are you going to have ?
Wahooti Fandango
20 Oct 2008, 16:12
No one is a genuine a-grade midfielder. They may turn out to be, but it's not a guarantee.
Some are more likely to become elite midfielders. So the question has to be, based on performances in various levels of football and results at the DC, who is the most likely to develop into an a-grad midfielder?
bombersno1
20 Oct 2008, 16:46
Some are more likely to become elite midfielders. So the question has to be, based on performances in various levels of football and results at the DC, who is the most likely to develop into an a-grad midfielder?
Pretty much and that is why I'd rather pick someone (Hartlett, Sidebottom, Ziebell, Swift) that at least play in the midfield and will do it regularly at AFL level. Yarran might play mid..he might also not. If he does not play midfield we have wasted a top5 pick in a really strong draft on a small forward.
bombersno1
20 Oct 2008, 16:48
No one is a genuine a-grade midfielder. They may turn out to be, but it's not a guarantee.
There is a better chance of success if the person drafted actually plays midfield more often than not RIG!
Quigley
20 Oct 2008, 16:59
There is a fair bit of talk that Brisbane is interested in Yarran as well and I have some concerns. I really rated him as a midfield prospect last year but not so much anymore. I don't see the Burgoyne comparisons myself I think the better comparison is Jeff Farmer. Like Farmer he could be a wizard up forward but much less effective when he moves up the ground. His reading of the play, skill level and even the cleaness of his hands seem much better up forward. I just see him as a small forward prospect now albeit a damn talented one.
On his father being in gaol I think people have a right to be apprehensive. You are a product of your environment and it has to have affected him to some degree. His situation might well have motivated him to make sure that he is never in that situation himself but you would have to put him in the higher risk bracket as far as social stability goes. Most people who abuse children were abused as a child themselves. People whose parents are divorced are more likely to divorce themselves. It doesn't happen in every case but the risks in each case are higher.
Despite all that though clubs nowerdays are very professional and you would have to think that they will have done a lot of homework and would have a lot of support mechanisms in place to support players if they need it.
What do I expect from Yarran - I think he will play from day 1 and play well. I don't think he will be as effective as Rioli was this year although he might well score more goals. I expect him to shy away from legal troubles but I can't shake the view that he might be a big go home risk.
kelvin_sheedy
20 Oct 2008, 17:31
There is a better chance of success if the person drafted actually plays midfield more often than not RIG!
Tell me how much midfield football Hartlett, Ziebell, Sidebottom have played an SANFL, WAFL level.
I'll give you a tip.. it's around 0%.
If Yarran played midfield throughout his juniors doesn't it put him in the same boat as the other guys?
How much midfield did Bryce Gibbs play at SANFL level? He was as sure a elite mid coming through yet barely played there at SANFL level. Why? Because kids rarely play in the mid at seniors. The play on the flanks and up forward like Yarran has.
Yarran has special talent to kick 39 goals in 13 games as a forward in senior footy. Most kids, top 10 rated, can barely get a kick at that level.
Ablett jnr spent 5 years at senior level playing a forward role. He's now the best mid in the comp.
Enough of this crap. If your want a serious discussion then by all means contribute. Stop trotting out the same stuff over and over again and trying to make yourself look like some sort of expert on draftees.
Pretty much and that is why I'd rather pick someone (Hartlett, Sidebottom, Ziebell, Swift) that at least play in the midfield and will do it regularly at AFL level. Yarran might play mid..he might also not. If he does not play midfield we have wasted a top5 pick in a really strong draft on a small forward.
Total BS. Whos says they will be regular stars in the midfield.
All have risks.
Rich has not yet shown he can cope with players doing a run with role and was only average at times in the WAFL.
Hartlett is on the skinny side and is not a great tackler. Has also had problems with players doing a run with role on him.
Sidebottom does have an issue with his pace. Did not test well in draft camp in that area and it could expose him at AFL level.
Ziebell, see Sidebottom. Pace is not great nad plays a lot of half forward. may never be anything more than a medium marking forward.
Swift. good draft camp results but who knows if he will ever come up at AFL level after his knee problems.
You can pick out problems with every kid in the draft and if Yarran does only end up as a small forward and kicks 50 goals a year then how is it a waste of a pick ?
FFS it would be nice if you used a bit of grey matter and thought through the issues before continually running your mouth and telling everyone what is best for the EFC!
Part of this argument is veering towards who is the most likely to be an A Grade midfielder in the AFL.
I will go out on a limb and nominate SWift/Hartlett as Pure Midfielders.
I believe that Ziebell and Sidebottom could spend time in attack or defemce and query whether Rich's endurance will allow him to play full time in the midfield.
Wahooti Fandango
20 Oct 2008, 19:42
I am happy to let Dodoro and co. do their stuff and judge whoever is drafted after a couple of years at AFL level.
Emma Quayle had us taking him at 5 in her rough top 10 this morning so there has to be a reasonable possibility he'll be at Essendon next year.
No complaints from me if that's the case. He's brilliant on the ground and and in the air, his skills are brilliant and his frame's excellent. Endurance is obviously an overhanging issue, as is his natural midfield nous having not played there for much of the last 2 years, but ultimately he's a really talented footballer.
Reading through this thread what's really perplexed me is how much of a risk he's considered. The best source in this thread, the article that ant posted, labels him a pretty committed kid both to his studies and his sport. Obviously the situation with his father is less than ideal, but there's no evidence at all that any of that's rubbed off on Chris. To the best of my knowledge, there has never been an off-field issue and we can rest assured that if there has been, Prescott will have known about it.
On the field, in a lot of ways he's less of a risk. He's well and truly proven that he has the tools to at least play as a small/medium forward at AFL level. As ant mentioned earlier, all of Hartlett, Sidebottom, Ziebell and Swift come with risks in regard to weight, speed or proven ability.
There are doubts over him, as there are doubts over others, but we might have an absolite gem if we were to grab him.
I have a mate over in Western Australia that's played against Chris this year, and he likes to call him a mini-Franklin, who knows, he might be right?
Ludwig van Bertstare
6 Nov 2008, 11:02
Would be ecstatic if we pick him.
someone mentioned that his hands don't seem to be a sure when playing up the ground. sounds like total BS to me.
i really don't want us to use pick 5 on him. that is based on reading through these threads as well as on AFL.com.
Also, (this is surely going to earn me a barrage of abuse) I have this theory that small aboriginal players rarely justify top-10ish picks. I know there are execeptions like Rioli, and there are gun small aboriginal players, but I feel most of the time they turn out to be crumbing forwards at best, when they are more often than not drafted with the hope to becoming midfielders. Richard Tambling is the most obvious example that comes to mind. And from all reports Yarran isn't exactly a 'pure midfield' prospect (as opposed to Rich, Hartlett, Swift), either.
But that's just me.
The kid has some things in his game that he needs to work on but which kid doesnt? I love his skill level and vision, he certainly brings a skill set to the table that is severly lacking at windy hill ATM.
I'd pick him at 5.
Would be ecstatic if we pick him.
The wind must have just changed direction, as RIG has changed his mind AGAIN.....hehehe
Essendonfc_4_lyfe
6 Nov 2008, 13:02
Could our interest in Yarran possibly be that we thought Lovett was out?
Ludwig van Bertstare
6 Nov 2008, 13:07
The wind must have just changed direction, as RIG has changed his mind AGAIN.....hehehe
I can't help it! :p
There's several players I'd be happy with. :D
pinkus maximus
6 Nov 2008, 13:15
Could our interest in Yarran possibly be that we thought Lovett was out?
not really, different type of player. Yarran isn't like a lot of the indigenous boys playing today, ie wiry flankers with electrifying pace. He is a strong bodied player who beats opponents with superior anticipation and footy smarts
the one area I think he needs to clean up is his occasional squibbing of contests. I have cringed on occasions watching him pull out of contests
Everything else is good. Don't listen to the "Yarran is lazy" crew
Could our interest in Yarran possibly be that we thought Lovett was out?
Dodoro has been very keen on him for a long time but ultimately it isn't his choice alone.
I can't help it! :p
There's several players I'd be happy with. :D
It's really that sort of draft for us.
Assuming the top 4 picks go as expected, I'm struggling to split around 7 or 8 guys.
bomber69
6 Nov 2008, 14:58
If its any indication on this kids talent, Prescott rated him as the best Aboriginal at the Clontarf Academy that he had ever seen and Ryder was an attendee there.
Edit: Prescott, not Dodoro!:o
Ludwig van Bertstare
6 Nov 2008, 14:59
Are you sure it was Dodoro and not Prescott?
Windas_Magic
6 Nov 2008, 15:07
Are you sure it was Dodoro and not Prescott?
Pretty sure it was Prescott.
bomber69
6 Nov 2008, 15:08
Ahh, Prescott my bad:o.. I always manage to get those two mixed up:confused:
longytap
6 Nov 2008, 17:06
Hmm, a "potentially" lazy small forward with hamstring issues at pick 5? :mad:
Spot on, last thing we need!!
Wahooti Fandango
6 Nov 2008, 17:46
I wish we had more picks in the top 10. Imagine getting Yarran, Hurley/Trengove and Sidebottom. :eek: Surely this years draft is classified as a super draft.
dirtywhitepacker
6 Nov 2008, 18:41
I wish we had more picks in the top 10. Imagine getting Yarran, Hurley/Trengove and Sidebottom. :eek: Surely this years draft is classified as a super draft.
Can only be declared a super draft when the players prove themselves at AFL level. A lot of talent there but still need to develop to AFL standard. Yarran could be a JON, Sidebottom a Dale Thomas, Swift a Tambling etc.
Back to Yarran, I admit I am limited to youtube highlights of the draftees, and the TAC cup final and 2 state under 18 games, where I did not see Yarran play at all. Therefore my assessment of Yarran in particular is made up purely from heresay and youtube (both bad indicators). But I just have a REALLY bad feeling about him, and there are so many other players I'd rather take in front of him... Ie. Rich, Vickery, Hurley, Trengove, Hartlett, Sidebottom, Ziebell and even, yes, even Swift (I don't like the amount of footy he missed through the crucial last two years)...
GoldenboyHird_5
6 Nov 2008, 21:22
if you want youtube highlights, choose the right one !!!
Yarran WAFL highlights....
magical, looks like s. burgoyne
if you want youtube highlights, choose the right one !!!
Yarran WAFL highlights....
magical, looks like s. burgoyne
His highlights from the WAFL make him look better that S.Burgoyne.
the soccer forward, pick up and goal at 2.23 was something speeeeeeeeecial. Though i did notice alot of his shots on goal he could've had a shot with the left, but chose to checkside it off the right..
the soccer forward, pick up and goal at 2.23 was something speeeeeeeeecial. Though i did notice alot of his shots on goal he could've had a shot with the left, but chose to checkside it off the right..
That may be so, but he effortlessly changes between his right and left foot.
If that is so, then it's alllll good :D
bomber69
7 Nov 2008, 14:14
He is the best kick in the draft along with Rich.
He is the best kick in the draft along with Rich.
hold on there big fella, i am pretty sure that Rich, Ziebell, Sidebottom, would all have something to say about that. he is a very very good user of the ball, but one would have to say that one of the forementioned actually has him covered.
loopy_cam
7 Nov 2008, 15:56
He said along with Rich.
bomber69
7 Nov 2008, 18:06
hold on there big fella, i am pretty sure that Rich, Ziebell, Sidebottom, would all have something to say about that. he is a very very good user of the ball, but one would have to say that one of the forementioned actually has him covered.
I did say Rich, but Sidebottom would probably be the only one I feel im being harsh to here. I know Ziebell has sublime disposal, but he is too rushed in his kicking for mine and tends to miss alot of targets. Sidebottom does come close, but Yarran gets the chocolates just:thumbsu:
cocobonobo
8 Nov 2008, 14:24
in an article i read in todays "west australian" newspaper yarran stated:
“At the start of the year I was playing through the midfield more than I was later on in the year but my fitness dropped off a bit with the injury and I couldn’t go through the midfield as much as I would have liked.”
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=4&ContentID=107047
so maybe he isnt just a fp and maybe he CAN play a midfield role for us.
Lynch takes a mark
8 Nov 2008, 15:05
I have absolutely no doubt about the talent levels of Yarran, in pure football terms he is freakish.
in an article i read in todays "west australian" newspaper yarran stated:
“At the start of the year I was playing through the midfield more than I was later on in the year but my fitness dropped off a bit with the injury and I couldn’t go through the midfield as much as I would have liked.”
http://www.thewest.com.au/default.aspx?MenuID=4&ContentID=107047
so maybe he isnt just a fp and maybe he CAN play a midfield role for us.
So maybe i was right when i said a few weeks ago that he was more than just a small forward :)
Ludwig van Bertstare
8 Nov 2008, 15:14
I have absolutely no doubt about the talent levels of Yarran, in pure football terms he is freakish.
:thumbsu::D
Ludwig van Bertstare
8 Nov 2008, 15:15
So maybe i was right when i said a few weeks ago that he was more than just a small forward :)
Ant, you don't want to question the great bombersno1!
So maybe i was right when i said a few weeks ago that he was more than just a small forward :)
Anyone that had seen him play could've seen that.
Unfortunately, that accounts for about 0.01 of the people on this site. Not that that stops them from making wild judgements.
cocobonobo
8 Nov 2008, 18:04
Ant, you don't want to question the great bombersno1!
:-o NOT THE GREAT BOMBERSNO1 !!!
FandangoDingo
10 Nov 2008, 13:16
:-o NOT THE GREAT BOMBERSNO1 !!!
I'm having difficulty deciphering... Does it mean "Bombers (are) Number 1" or "A Bombers Nobody"?
I dunno... Kids now days.....
;)