View Full Version : Is it time to change the Essendon logo?
spiraldiver
29 Nov 2008, 18:29
(Hypothetical question, of course.)
No, it's not going to win us any premierships, and some may say it's merely window-dressing, but I feel it's time the club considered a new logo. Why? Well, the club is no longer a dominant team in terms of membership, and its last four seasons on the field would hardly have inspired a new generation of supporters to get on board. With the rest of the field catching up I feel it's imperative that the club has the initiative to reinvent itself to appeal to more potential members, particularly coming off the end of the Sheedy/Hird era. I'd also like to see the logo appear on the club guernsey - why it doesn't has always been a mystery to me.
On a personal note, I've never liked the current logo. It looks rather amatuerish in my opinion. If anyone has any alternative designs I'd love to see them.
Valve Bounce
29 Nov 2008, 18:32
How about the Essendon Chipmunks?
un_eggs
29 Nov 2008, 18:47
Well, considering where we drafted from this year, and our venerable leader's name, I would be inclined to favour 'The Knights' as a logo... either that or the 'Terrorists'.
Ben the Gooner
29 Nov 2008, 19:23
Well, the club is no longer a dominant team in terms of membership
There goes your credibility.
spiraldiver
29 Nov 2008, 19:24
Okay, just to clear things up here, I didn't mean changing the name 'Bombers'. I meant changing the design of the logo/crest/badge - whatever you want to call it. I've never liked this design:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/2006_AFL_Essendon.jpg
spiraldiver
29 Nov 2008, 19:32
There goes your credibility.
Read the post again. Our membership hasn't declined but the rest of the field is catching up. With no guarantee of finals football in the next two or three seasons the club has to find other ways of attracting new members. Too many people assume Essendon has a natural right to be a giant of the competition and it's this attitude that could see us drift back to the dark ages of the pre-Sheedy era. Complacency is death in this business.
Ben the Gooner
29 Nov 2008, 19:36
Read the post again. Our membership hasn't declined but the rest of the field is catching up. With no guarantee of finals football in the next two or three seasons the club has to find other ways of attracting new members. Too many people assume Essendon has a natural right to be a giant of the competition and it's this attitude that could see us drift back to the dark ages of the pre-Sheedy era. Complacency is death in this business.
Record membership despite the Sheedy sacking begs to differ.
Valve Bounce
29 Nov 2008, 19:47
Read the post again. Our membership hasn't declined but the rest of the field is catching up. With no guarantee of finals football in the next two or three seasons the club has to find other ways of attracting new members. Too many people assume Essendon has a natural right to be a giant of the competition and it's this attitude that could see us drift back to the dark ages of the pre-Sheedy era. Complacency is death in this business.
OK!! I'll bite: what sort of Bomber would you suggest we change the logo to?
reincarnated
29 Nov 2008, 19:54
OK!! I'll bite: what sort of Bomber would you suggest we change the logo to?
Have you noticed, ever since the logo was changed, we've being going downwards. That's because the Bomber is shown going downwards in the logo.
That Bomber should be changed so that it's flying upwards...so that it goes with our song and will also resemble our climb up the ladder over next few years. :D
Shane Hird
29 Nov 2008, 19:58
No.
Crows have an absolute shit looking logo but that doesn't seem to effect their massive membership numbers. And it seems they're in no hurry to change their logo just for the sake of it,
Ben the Gooner
29 Nov 2008, 19:59
Have you noticed, ever since the logo was changed, we've being going downwards. That's because the Bomber is shown going downwards in the logo.
That Bomber should be changed so that it's flying upwards...so that it goes with our song and will also resemble our climb up the ladder over next few years. :D
I'm fairly sure we won the flag with this logo.
Okay, just to clear things up here, I didn't mean changing the name 'Bombers'. I meant changing the design of the logo/crest/badge - whatever you want to call it. I've never liked this design:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/2006_AFL_Essendon.jpg
Needs more metal arms
Valve Bounce
29 Nov 2008, 20:16
OK!! I tried to get the plane flying upwards, but the name NODNESSE didn't sound too great. :o
Needs more metal arms
Please don't turn this board into another BB where a once funny phrase is repeated to death.
Please don't turn this board into another BB where a once funny phrase is repeated to death.
Can I still use it all the time in the Hanger?
Bomber32
29 Nov 2008, 20:22
Keep the logo as it is. It isn't going to win or lose us any premierships and there is no real reason to change it anyway.
Ben the Gooner
29 Nov 2008, 20:26
OK!! I tried to get the plane flying upwards, but the name NODNESSE didn't sound too great. :o
I like the way Snrub thinks.;)
For shame, Spikey. I might have to Reimer you.
Can I still use it all the time in the Hanger?
Of course
Of course
Phew.
K, back on topic now.
The_Young_Gun
29 Nov 2008, 22:58
lol.. I just currently found this thread.
What a joke... You don't have much information to back your point, except that you just don't like the Bombers logo.
If we were to use a ratio of Location to Population and compare that stat with all teams membership numbers in the AFL, we would be in top 3 overall for the most ammount of Memberships purchased in density for the AFL.
Clubs like Adelaide and West Coast get way more Members because they obviously just don't have much to contend with, other than their one singled rivals from the same state... Compare that to us and the other 9 clubs we have to contend with, in Victoria, in which we have to try and obtain members from a dense area full of other AFL clubs who are too fighting with us to obtain members for their clubs... We should be happy with the amount of members we have and should also be proud that we're the most secure club financially in the AFL. Excluding the recent stock market crash which effected all clubs really.
Admiral Afterworld
29 Nov 2008, 23:18
I like our current logo. It has zoompf!
My only complaint would be that it is seems a bit overly complex at times. But maybe that's the key to a good logo, you notice it's complexity when you look at it in depth.
My main worry is if we got a new one I might not like it!
To consider possible alternative designs, have a look at what other teams/companies have come up with for a "Bombers" logo....
Google Searched (http://images.google.com/images?client=opera&rls=en&q=bombers%20logo&sourceid=opera&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi)
For instance, this one, just quickly, has potential. You change the orange to red, make the bomber bigger, tweak a few things, and you have a pretty cool logo. If they ever did change it, imo, they should go OLD-SCHOOL bomber, like WW2, rather than a modern one.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2338/2185980020_aed2bc52ae_o.jpg
I wonder which came first, this one or the Essendon one!
http://www.geocities.com/gilfat/TeamLogoF-Bombers.jpg
If you got rid of the cheesy face on a plane, made it more sleek and sharp-edged, framed it inside a badge outline, added some touches and the name Essendon, there could be potential in this idea of having the red sash on a black plane...
http://www.kvbombers.com/bombercolour.jpg.JPG
Stealth bomber styled one with a football-shaped 'swoosh'...
http://home.kc.rr.com/starrpower/sports/kc-brigade.jpg
Not that I think we need a change, but take away the hockey puck and this looks mean:
http://www.wcyha.org/images/bombers%20logo%20white.jpg
It looks cool, but it also looks like a shark with wings.
Why imo no face on plane.
I still like the first one i showed, with a bunch of tweaks done to it.
Looks like an army badge on a bomber-jacket.
tom9779
30 Nov 2008, 09:12
i liked the old one better than that one. 80s one rocked.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/98/Essendon80s.png
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 09:18
I like that one too.
I have a BIG soft spot for the 70's one though. The one that had the plane with legs and the huge teeth.. unfortunately can't find a pic of it but its on an old plastic mug I have. :)
In short though. No. :D
i like our logo but something that slightly irritates me about it is the plane is flying down(as if its gonna crash) and our song says "see the bombers fly up".
i wouldnt mind seeing a more realistic bomber but there doesnt really seem like a huge need to change it right now.
also i dont think our logo should be on our jumper. it'll make us too much like st. kilda
Gimme about an hour or two and I'll do a re-do of the badge looking one, and I'll also do one of the Stealth bomber, but make it face upwards, be a bit bigger and put ESSENDON BOMBERS running along each side of the delta.
Something like this for the first one...(just a quick re-do)....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-logo.jpg
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 11:52
Whilst I appreciate the time a Port mod is putting into redesigning our logo (along with failing to understand why they would want to on any level).. that's awful.
Wahooti Fandango
30 Nov 2008, 12:11
Phew.
K, back on topic now.
I am greatly relieved.
I dunno, something like this for the stealth version.....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-logo-2.jpg
Whilst I appreciate the time a Port mod is putting into redesigning our logo (along with failing to understand why they would want to on any level).. that's awful.
Cos it's a good sunny day outside, and im sick at home, so whiling away the hours. Just throwing some concepts out there. We all know it's never going to change etc.
Anyway, carry on. I had a go at a couple designs. I'll leave now before I'm chased out of here lol.
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 12:29
Cos it's a good sunny day outside, and im sick at home, so whiling away the hours. Just throwing some concepts out there. We all know it's never going to change etc.
No problems at all. Go hard son. :):thumbsu:
Anyway, carry on. I had a go at a couple designs. I'll leave now before I'm chased out of here lol.
Naa, that happens if you come here after Rnd1 if you have beaten us :D
Naa, that happens if you come here after Rnd1 if you have beaten us :D
I dont usually jump into opposition team boards to brag over a win, but I MAY do that (on invitation it seems) just to get chased out lol. That's if we even win chipping the ball to every inch of the field bar the forward 50.
I dont usually jump into opposition team boards to brag over a win, but I MAY do that (on invitation it seems) just to get chased out lol. That's if we even win chipping the ball to every inch of the field bar the forward 50.
You're always welcome here gg but of course once we are through with you Rnd 1 i doubt you will want to turn up :p
You're always welcome here gg but of course once we are through with you Rnd 1 i doubt you will want to turn up :p
Thank-you. Tho Im not sure how welcome after that horrendous "stealth logo" I did. (tho i do think the first one i did is awesomeness). And I'm not afraid to show up even after a loss....just be sure to have that Benny Hill tune handy.
Stealth bomber styled one with a football-shaped 'swoosh'...
http://home.kc.rr.com/starrpower/sports/kc-brigade.jpg
Thank-you. Tho Im not sure how welcome after that horrendous "stealth logo" I did. (tho i do think the first one i did is awesomeness). And I'm not afraid to show up even after a loss....just be sure to have that Benny Hill tune handy.
I like that one.
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 13:06
I'm not sure I like the implication of a stealth bomber.. bombing by stealth.
I think I prefer something like a German tankbusting Stuka.. a screaming divebomb that ends in the complete and utter destruction of the opposition crawling along the ground.
I like that one.
That's ok, but hard to put a frame around it (like a badge) and touch up with "Essendon" etc. In my stealth version i tried to point it upwards as per a few people who said that was something they'd like to see in a new bomber (pointing up).
I'm not sure I like the implication of a stealth bomber.. bombing by stealth.
I think I prefer something like a German tankbusting Stuka.. a screaming divebomb that ends in the complete and utter destruction of the opposition crawling along the ground.
I like the old WW2 bomber images. That first one I did does have the bomb blast you're referring to wiping out the opposition (blood red).
Maybe you could have a bomb itself (with Essendon FC written on it) and a footballer underneath shielding himself in terror lol??
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 13:25
Maybe you could have a bomb itself (with Essendon FC written on it) and a footballer underneath shielding himself in terror lol??
LOL.. somehow I don't think it would get past the PC brigade. Would be funny to see though.. :D
LOL.. somehow I don't think it would get past the PC brigade. Would be funny to see though.. :D
PC brigade always have to ruin everything. But I'll see if I can whip one up for you. Another idea which the PC brigade would love is that front on caricature of the Una-bomber with Essendon FC on his hoodie or something.*
Ben the Gooner
30 Nov 2008, 13:28
LOL.. somehow I don't think it would get past the PC brigade. Would be funny to see though.. :D
We need a big **** off plane crushing a city which is on fire. That'll send the right message.
Beckers
30 Nov 2008, 13:45
Stealth bomber styled one with a football-shaped 'swoosh'...
http://home.kc.rr.com/starrpower/sports/kc-brigade.jpg
:thumbsu:WOW! That is CLASS!!!!
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 13:46
Speaking of the PC brigade.. I'm not entirely sure we'd be able to get a Nazi warplane past them either.
Regardless of the obvious connotations of using such a plane.. it was the most feared plane of the Luftwaffe and I still love it regardless of which side was flying it.
http://i296.photobucket.com/albums/mm192/corkyandjake/junkers-87-stuka.jpg
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 13:49
We need a big **** off plane crushing a city which is on fire. That'll send the right message.
I presume you don't mean by crashing into it.
Bezerka
30 Nov 2008, 13:51
Not that I think we need a change, but take away the hockey puck and this looks mean:
http://www.wcyha.org/images/bombers%20logo%20white.jpg
Something similar to this would be awesome!
That's ok, but hard to put a frame around it (like a badge) and touch up with "Essendon" etc. In my stealth version i tried to point it upwards as per a few people who said that was something they'd like to see in a new bomber (pointing up).
maybe not going directly up. more like somewhere around 45 or 315 degrees
Before I finish the cowering in fear as bomb lands version, here are some to chew on....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-2.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-3.jpg
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-4.jpg
Not that I think we need a change, but take away the hockey puck and this looks mean:
http://www.wcyha.org/images/bombers%20logo%20white.jpg
looks more like a mascot. infact it sort of looks like our old mascot
Before I finish the cowering in fear as bomb lands version, here are some to chew on....
well... it may make our club feared
Any of those could be also done in the badge shape, with a red sash that the others have.
well... it may make our club feared
Those are the "crushing a city" versions suggested on the previous page.
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 14:36
Before I finish the cowering in fear as bomb lands version, here are some to chew on....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-4.jpg
This one is quite good just visually speaking.. not as a potential replacement of anything though.
The mushroom cloud one kind of made me think of this season..:( maybe some crossed crutches would have finished it off nicely.
Ben the Gooner
30 Nov 2008, 14:46
I presume you don't mean by crashing into it.
With bombs and tracer bullets and all that sort of stuff.
Like a big plane at the top, bombs and bullets falling down on a burning city.:thumbsu::D
Ok this is a bit 50s silly....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-5.jpg
Ben the Gooner
30 Nov 2008, 15:09
Heh I love it.:D:thumbsu:
I like the one IsDonIsGood quoted. It is visually appealing. Maybe could be used for a poster or members booklet or something. Tho i do like the idea, if you're gonna have a badge, make it fearsome, or 'inspiring'....some bad-ass plane leaving flames of destruction in its wake.
Okay, just to clear things up here, I didn't mean changing the name 'Bombers'. I meant changing the design of the logo/crest/badge - whatever you want to call it. I've never liked this design:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/56/2006_AFL_Essendon.jpg
We should go back to that caricature Bomber, with the little sneer, I loved that logo, I even got a Tatt of it, the current one is shit.
Edit: This pic is pretty close to the logo I loved.
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showpost.php?p=13149033&postcount=27
Wahooti Fandango
30 Nov 2008, 16:06
Nice work gg. :thumbsu:
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 16:16
Ok this is a bit 50s silly....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-5.jpg
Hahahahaha! Nice work!
Now.. if we can just work a carlton jumper onto that bitch we could call her Bryce Squibbs and it'd have great promotional value for our first game against them next season. :):thumbsu:
One more....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-6.jpg
Hahahahaha! Nice work!
Now.. if we can just work a carlton jumper onto that bitch we could call her Bryce Squibbs and it'd have great promotional value for our first game against them next season. :):thumbsu:
Lol, I WAS actually gonna put a Carlton jumper on her! I'll do that now for you.
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 16:29
One more....
lol.. oh dear. Can you imagine the outrage? :D
She's definitely asking for it now...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-7.jpg
lol.. oh dear. Can you imagine the outrage? :D
Ah **** 'em. It'd be good to do just to get "the" reaction.
The first one posted by GG was a winner.
I really really like it.
Ive never had a probelm with the current one, but gees it has some style about it.
Stlye like Geelongs upgraded logo, making themselves look much more professional.:thumbsu:
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 16:50
She's definitely asking for it now...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-7.jpg
gg, you're an artist and that is a piece of art my good friend. :D:thumbsu:
The first one posted by GG was a winner.
I really really like it.
Yeah, i like that too. It looks like a badge/logo, and has the plane pointing UP, as well as the bomb blast blood red destroying everything....as it should be doing.
gg, you're an artist and that is a piece of art my good friend. :D:thumbsu:
Be sure to bandy it about the Carlton board, they're sure to sympathize with the feminine fear lol.
Beerfish
30 Nov 2008, 17:04
Be sure to bandy it about the Carlton board, they're sure to sympathize with the feminine fear lol.
Surely as a mod you wouldn't be encouraging me to troll another club's board now would you? :cool:
Surely as a mod you wouldn't be encouraging me to troll another club's board now would you? :cool:
Trolling is such a finite word. I would use the term "promotional aid" for the upcoming season's rivalry match.
Trolling is such a finite word. I would use the term "promotional aid" for the upcoming season's rivalry match.
We've already got the "They Know We're Waiting" pomotional aid. But hey, it couldn't hurt.
We've already got the "They Know We're Waiting" pomotional aid. But hey, it couldn't hurt.
You can never have enough promotional aids. Just in case they find a way to not get irked by one of them.
By the way, here's my last "PC pleasing" Bombers logo....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-8.jpg
Ben the Gooner
30 Nov 2008, 20:45
You're a star, gg
Be sure to bandy it about the Carlton board, they're sure to sympathize with the feminine fear lol.
I reckon they'd ban you just for suggesting it here.
Jonesy1987
30 Nov 2008, 21:35
Something like this for the first one...(just a quick re-do)....
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-logo.jpg
My Fav outside of the screaming carlton supporter but thats just a given.
You're a star, gg
I reckon they'd ban you just for suggesting it here.
One of the best things about football is rivalry matches. I look at trolling like someone just constantly angling for trouble, constantly stirring and just being overall facetious.
But in the week of a rivalry match, it's custom to get out there and promote the duel. *The clubs do it, the AFL does, so why not the fans?*
Anyway, that's my excuse lol.
Beerfish
1 Dec 2008, 06:10
Trolling is such a finite word. I would use the term "promotional aid" for the upcoming season's rivalry match.
Something tells me that they wouldn't see it that way.
My Fav outside of the screaming carlton supporter but thats just a given.
That's not a supporter, its Squibbsy.
Beerfish
1 Dec 2008, 08:23
I'll never post anything on the carlton board.
I do venture over there for a read every now and then though. It never fails to give me chuckle. :D
Honestly, Essendon fans are the only good ones of the successful Vic teams (Carlton, Cwood, Essendon, Hawthorn). There are of course always a few really cool people from the other teams.
Bomberlicious
1 Dec 2008, 09:47
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-7.jpg
As the great, C. Montgomery Burns, once said - "Now, I'm no art critic, but I know what I hate... and I don't hate this"
Pure Gold...:D:thumbsu:
FandangoDingo
2 Dec 2008, 01:24
The Baby Bombers!
http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/1984/babybombersku4.jpg
She's definitely asking for it now...
http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a136/ggakma/bombers-7.jpg
if you look at the essendon website we have shirts that are bagging collingwood and carlton
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/shop2003/1352.jpghttp://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/shop2003/1335.jpg
maybe we need more artistic shirts with air force planes attacking a flock of magpies or a bunch of.... blue... stuff
^ Lol, the Essendon FC itself 'trolling'.
But I agree, you need more destructive fearsome promotional imagery. The whole "do the math" thing seems a bit nerdy. Instead, you need to send clear badass imagery...as this thread has alluded to.
Jonesy1987
2 Dec 2008, 09:17
maybe we need more artistic shirts with air force planes attacking a flock of magpies or a bunch of.... blue... stuff
Blue stuff = Jazz musicians
The_Gunny_Bomber
2 Dec 2008, 10:21
I think our logo is the worst in the AFL
I think our logo is the worst in the AFL
it needs improvement. but i dunno about the worst. i hate the port fist w/lightning bolt. it's face-covering bad.
the GC lifesaver dude will be up there with the worst.
all the others are pretty standard fare.
Beerfish
2 Dec 2008, 11:33
I think our logo is the worst in the AFL
You've gotta be kidding..
Port?
GC?
Freo?
You've gotta be kidding..
Port?
GC?
Freo?
i dont mind freos logo seeing as the person who made it had to follow such a bad criteria, the GC logo also had a bad criteria but i dont think thats a good enough excuse for what they came up with.
as for our logo. i think the plane looks cool but doesnt look enough like a bomber. its definetly not the worst though
I hate to admit it but I think Collingwood has the best logo. Looks more professional and isn't targeted towards 6 year olds.
If you put an angry face on a plane it will be one of the worst.
No faces on planes!
I hate to admit it but I think Collingwood has the best logo. Looks more professional and isn't targeted towards 6 year olds.
i hate collingwoods logo because it reminds me of collingwood
I think our logo is the worst in the AFL
Carlton (new one) and Port by a mile!!!
ghostdog
2 Dec 2008, 17:23
I reckon current our logo rocks, as did the eighties one. Not really a fan of the cartoon ones though...
If it's to be redesigned i reckon the view needs to be from a low angle, looking up towards the front/side and taking in part of the wing... to make it look massive, powerful and menacing.
Logos from the recent past show an angle from above making the bomber look small and reducing it to a symbol, rather than emphasising the characteristics of it. The image at the addy below is a good example.
http://www.defenselink.mil/dodcmsshare/homepagephoto/2007-02/hires_hires_070212-F-6256P-007b.jpg
...in red and black/greyscale if need be. All would be well if everyone shared my vision:D
For what it's worth port's logo's a bit boring, gc's was a bit gutless, wb's isn't anything special and melbourne's has gone missing.
Best logos around are ours, north, hawks, cats, and saints and carlton for their classic traditional styles.
Lions, freo, adelaide, sydney, richmond, collingwood - time for a change.
If you put an angry face on a plane it will be one of the worst.
No faces on planes!
Yeah, I do have to agree at this juncture. In fairness to myself I was quite drunk when I posted that "mean" logo on page two or so of this thread (and still managed an entire coherent sentence).
Also I still like the general aesthetic of that picture. Take the hockey puck away and just redraw the front of the plane to look imposing without "mean face". Then stylize it a little to look more like a plane but keep the sleekness and obviously change orange to red, and I still think you have cool/sleek bomber that is angled correctly to be "flying up".