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dmc333
3 Dec 2008, 06:18
Anyone seen any episodes of this? Came across it on eztv a couple of weeks back, but haven't found time to check out the pilot yet.

Apparently about the inner workings of a bikie gang and created by a producer/writer from The Shield.

All of what I've read seems very positive and implies it's pretty hardcore.

Port81
3 Dec 2008, 13:02
Its great, a lot of movies have failed at depicting the real world of 1% Motorcycle clubs, the producers have done their homework on this though.

It's like the sopranos but with Outlaw Mc's insted. The show is loosely based on a true story and the book 'Out in bad standings'. Season 1 just finished airing in the states, season 2 is in production now.

Also If you like this a new Mel Gibson film is in production called 'Alone and Under' another true story based on the William Queen Book, about an undercover officer who infiltrated the Mongols MC.

0497
3 Dec 2008, 13:34
The reviews that I've seen have been all good. The guy who developed it used to work on The Shield so there's some pedigree.

NitroFan
3 Dec 2008, 15:40
I'm upto episode 5. Bloody great show. I've always been interested in bikie gangs so this was a very pleasent surprise when I found it.

I like how the main dude has the biggest wigger swagger in history.

dmc333
3 Dec 2008, 20:27
Watched the first episode. Looks quite promising.

Old Peg Bundy is a piece of work, looks like she's gonna pull a few strings.

Juicy1
27 Jan 2009, 14:53
Also If you like this a new Mel Gibson film is in production called 'Alone and Under' another true story based on the William Queen Book, about an undercover officer who infiltrated the Mongols MC.

Yeah seen a episode on Discovery Channel about this bloke, had to forego his family etc for about 3 years or so. He became so heavily involved into the Brotherhood he didn't know if he wanted to grass them up in the end.

On the subject on "SOA" I have watched one episode so far and will watch the 2nd tomorrow, pretty good cast with Hellboy and Peg Bundy :D

rizzo
7 Feb 2009, 13:19
Just saw the first episode of this show. Massive :thumbsu: Can't wait to watch the rest.

vealesy
7 May 2009, 21:19
was at a mates place the othe day when this was on foxtel, suprised not many people talking about it, i watched the whole season a coupla months ago, best new show ive seen in years.

Underbelly producers should watch and learn from this.

hamG
8 Sep 2009, 21:28
Season 2 commencing today, can't wait!

vealesy
10 Sep 2009, 17:35
Cheers.

Might rewatch Season 1 to refresh my mind on Samcrow.

rocker_oz33
10 Sep 2009, 20:09
yep great show half thou season one liking it much so far..

hawks_time
10 Sep 2009, 20:49
yep great show half thou season one liking it much so far..
Yeah same. I originally watched the pilot a couple of weeks ago but didn't find it that interesting then read this thread and decided to give it another go, I'm slowly starting to get into it more now.

hamG
10 Sep 2009, 23:13
Took them one scene to set up season 2 to be MASSIVE. Oh my its going to be great.

IanG
11 Sep 2009, 09:07
Took them one scene to set up season 2 to be MASSIVE. Oh my its going to be great.

Yep what a great first episode of S2. No holding back at all.

rocker_oz33
17 Sep 2009, 20:02
l finished season one the other day really liked it's better than most shows on telly today

hawks_time
22 Sep 2009, 15:42
Finally caught up to current eps. It's funny, around ep 6-7 of the first season I was thinking "Henry Rollins would be a great fit for this show" and lo and behold here he is. Although I was more thinking he would be better suited to a biker but his white supremecist character suits him as well.
Loving it so far.

red+black
24 Sep 2009, 23:57
I'm a bit behind the times. I'm only up to Season 4 of The Wire, I have Deadwood lined up after that, I'm getting Generation Kill and the box set of The Shield around Christmas, but I'm always looking for a new show to take an interest in, and Sons of Anarchy just might be it.

Without giving too much away, could someone very briefly summarise the pilot and season 1, you know, to pique my interest?

hamG
25 Sep 2009, 00:56
Watch The Shield, then replace the strike team with a bikie gang and thats what Sons is.

But an ultra short description, Sons of Anarchy are a biker gang in a small town who control & protect the town. It is the Shield approach of good guys who are actually bad guys doing bad things which are actually good things.

The Shield is the best show I have ever seen and everyone I know who has watched it agrees, Sons is being done by the same crew so the shows have a lot of awesome parallels despite being very different.

Edit: I should add most of the Sons stories are about rival gangs and vigilante justice and family.

hawks_time
25 Sep 2009, 01:47
Also of note is the Hamlet influence. Jax being Hamlet, his dads book being his dads 'ghost' that he can communicate with and Clay and Gemma based on the Uncle/King and Queen.

GPW1
25 Sep 2009, 10:16
quick one, anyone know when series 2 will shown on foxtel?

IanG
25 Sep 2009, 10:46
Also of note is the Hamlet influence. Jax being Hamlet, his dads book being his dads 'ghost' that he can communicate with and Clay and Gemma based on the Uncle/King and Queen.

Yep, and there's also clearly a Lady MacBeth influence on Gemma. I think they're probably getting away from that influence in S2 though.

hamG
15 Oct 2009, 23:07
Just watched the latest, s2e6. This show is just too ****ing awesome man needs more love.

hawks_time
16 Oct 2009, 14:15
Yup, just watched the new ep and I'm in total agreeance. I really think that this season has been one of the best seasons of a show ever, so far.

vealesy
16 Oct 2009, 19:02
Ive downloaded each episode but only watched half of the first one.

Im saving them for the weekend in 2 weeks time when I have nothing to do.

Ohhh yeah. Back to Back.

Schism
16 Oct 2009, 22:35
Sounds ok,might check it out

Mario the Lothario
17 Oct 2009, 11:10
Where/when/how can this program be viewed?

Thanks.

vealesy
17 Oct 2009, 12:10
Where/when/how can this program be viewed?

Thanks.

Series 1 was on foxtel, dont know about 2.

Other than that, the only way is to 'steal its intellectual property'.

rocker_oz33
31 Oct 2009, 09:47
watched the first season and now up to the 5th ep of season 2 really liking it.good to Henry Rollins get a gig,poor pegy got pegged.

Jonesy1987
2 Dec 2009, 22:48
DL the last episode of season 2 atm, awesome show,

Spoiler: can't believe how soon they brought the Donna card out of the bag, thought it would be there til the end.

likka
2 Jan 2010, 12:54
Finally got around to watching the last handful of season 2 episodes... wow.

Brilliant show, amazing second season, and an absolutely awesome finale.

Cannot wait for season three... only nine months away.

Punchy Bassett
29 Jun 2010, 13:33
*BUMP* Just started catching up with this series myself, watched the first season and two eps into the second, really enjoying it, something completely different on TV!

aussiedude
29 Jun 2010, 15:52
the rest of season 2 just gets better best tv season all year for last year

vealesy
29 Jun 2010, 18:55
the rest of season 2 just gets better best tv season all year for last year

Absolutely, I recently caught up with the last 4 episodes I hadn't seen in season 2.

Brilliant stuff.

Will surely get better.

I'd like to see them chasing out and around for most of next season.

I hope this show is one that doesn't gets stale too quickly.

Jonesy1987
29 Jun 2010, 19:04
I hope this show is one that doesn't gets stale too quickly.

With the probably location change, I can't see that happening in the near future.

Who is everyone's favorite character?
Mine is a toss up between, Juice, Happy, Half sack and Trigg.

hawks_time
29 Jun 2010, 19:35
I liked the rookie:(
Probably the Irish guy.

Jonesy1987
29 Jun 2010, 19:41
I liked the rookie:(
Probably the Irish guy.

Agreed, spoiler: they didn't want to kill him off, but the actor wanted to go in different direction.

Been too long, forgot about Chibs, he is a gun :thumbsu:

JR#8
29 Jun 2010, 19:47
HELL YEAH!

Love this show. I have been watching it since it first aired in the U.S and have not missed an episode. My fav tv show!

The new series starts in September so I'm hanging out!

Freo Big Fella
6 Jul 2010, 22:47
Am halfway through season one (up to Half-Sack flipping out during the boxing match). Has been excellent so far.

Slacker
16 Jul 2010, 11:17
Am halfway through season one (up to Half-Sack flipping out during the boxing match). Has been excellent so far.

I'm round abouts the same place. I quite like it but want it to be better than it is. I haven't seen The Shield, but I have seen The Wire and I just wish it could have more of the gritty realism that The Wire has.

SoA just seems to have that element of hollywood. For example, the Mayans are cardboard cutouts and seemingly could not hit the broad side of a barn with a bucket full of buckshot - seriously, they are like A-team bad guys. Peggy Bundy launchs into a strange tirade about the holocaust to that old Nord bloke, yeah that sounded like an authentic bikie mole.

Jax is so willfully miscast it's crazy. I'd like to see a more overt appeal to the female demographic. Baggy jeans, white sneakers, blond bob, top button done up on his flannel FFS (add in the whigger stagger too, well spotted). Opie would have been much better in the role.

SoA keeps pulling it's punches.

Oh yeah, I don't like their helmets either. But i do like the show overall:D

hawks_time
16 Jul 2010, 13:03
I'd hate to see you critique a show you didn't like…

rizzo
16 Jul 2010, 13:05
I'm round abouts the same place. I quite like it but want it to be better than it is. I haven't seen The Shield, but I have seen The Wire and I just wish it could have more of the gritty realism that The Wire has.

SoA just seems to have that element of hollywood. For example, the Mayans are cardboard cutouts and seemingly could not hit the broad side of a barn with a bucket full of buckshot - seriously, they are like A-team bad guys. Peggy Bundy launchs into a strange tirade about the holocaust to that old Nord bloke, yeah that sounded like an authentic bikie mole.

Jax is so willfully miscast it's crazy. I'd like to see a more overt appeal to the female demographic. Baggy jeans, white sneakers, blond bob, top button done up on his flannel FFS (add in the whigger stagger too, well spotted). Opie would have been much better in the role.

SoA keeps pulling it's punches.

Oh yeah, I don't like their helmets either. But i do like the show overall:D

You sure? lol

Slacker
16 Jul 2010, 13:46
Fair call guys, I'm a picky bstd, and totally unfairly comparing it to The Wire.

The show is definitely entertaining and I would recommend you ignore my rant above and check it out - if only for the still fine Peggy Bundy who is brilliant in her role.

rocker_oz33
16 Jul 2010, 16:02
Fair call guys, I'm a picky bstd, and totally unfairly comparing it to The Wire.

The show is definitely entertaining and I would recommend you ignore my rant above and check it out - if only for the still fine Peggy Bundy who is brilliant in her role.

yeah l found it hard to watch other shows,after l watched all seasons of the wire.it like a R/Ship break up it will get easier with time to see (watch) other shows.

rizzo
21 Jul 2010, 14:19
Just finished season 2 before. What an ending!! Can't wait for season three now

rocker_oz33
19 Aug 2010, 20:10
season 3 starts on the 7th of September on FX getting close now

vealesy
19 Aug 2010, 20:15
anyone have any idea when foxtel will decide to air it?

Fwoy
4 Sep 2010, 16:13
Season 3 so close, I can hear the rumble of the engines...

Crimson Azure
6 Sep 2010, 16:57
Just started watching it, got through season one in a weekend & am now starting on season 2.

Great show!

Also good for me that season 3 is starting this week I think so I'll be able to gostraight into that.

:thumbsu:

_JC_
6 Sep 2010, 17:12
Just started watching it, got through season one in a weekend & am now starting on season 2.

Great show!

Also good for me that season 3 is starting this week I think so I'll be able to gostraight into that.

:thumbsu:

You will want to.

Warsaw
6 Sep 2010, 18:11
Probably will wait about 6 weeks in to start watching again. A great ****ing show.

aussiedude
8 Sep 2010, 13:44
Season 3 first episode is online there are:
Sons of Anarchy S03E01 So HDTV XviD-FQM 361MB went up about 1:15 our time
Sons of Anarchy S03E01 720p HDTV x264-CTU 1.48GB went up 1:40 our time

Fwoy
8 Sep 2010, 15:08
Season 3 first episode is online there are:
Sons of Anarchy S03E01 So HDTV XviD-FQM 361MB went up about 1:15 our time
Sons of Anarchy S03E01 720p HDTV x264-CTU 1.48GB went up 1:40 our time

Acquiring now...scchhhweeet! :D:cool:

Fwoy
8 Sep 2010, 17:07
HOOOOOOLLLLLYY SHIT! What a finish to an episode!

aussiedude
8 Sep 2010, 20:23
i just finished watching ep 1 in 720p, and fu*k what a start to the season and what an ending to episode 1, the next 12 weeks are going to be epic. i hope they didnt kill Hale, with some things he did in season 2 i started to like him. this season is going to be insane. Sutter does it again.

Leafie
8 Sep 2010, 20:55
Im so glad this show is back, what a ending!!!!
Jax is going to f*** some people this season, I reckon Hales brother is going to big player this season. Looking forward to what else the season brings its going to be epic and Lem from the shield looks to becoming a regular character bonus!

JR#8
8 Sep 2010, 21:01
Just finished watching the first episode for this season. Awesome..Been waiting a long time for this show to come back!:thumbsu:

_JC_
10 Sep 2010, 14:15
Haven't had time to watch the first ep till but HOLY SHITBALLS, epic.

Schism
10 Sep 2010, 17:34
Very underwhelming start to the new season imho

hawks_time
11 Sep 2010, 17:37
Watched the whole episode expecting a big end because of this thread and still didn't see it coming.
Still Jax would have been better off leaving the gunman alone as any information would have helped. I guess he wasn't thinking too logically though.

Schism
11 Sep 2010, 19:34
Less katie sagal, more bikie stuff thanks. I know it's her husbands show but she now has way, way too much time per episode

Fwoy
12 Sep 2010, 06:11
Jax has recruited a new prospect

http://blog.dvdideas.com/images/greenstreet.jpg

[/spoiler]

Crimson Azure
20 Sep 2010, 16:04
Caught up, just watched ep2 of season 3 & can't wait for ep3 this week.

Fwoy
23 Sep 2010, 01:34
Nice grope work by Stephen King

Schism
9 Oct 2010, 03:26
This season it has officially turned into the all singing, all dancing, all overacting Katey Sagal show. It's become the bold & the beautiful with the odd biker scene. I don't know what they were thinking, there is no way this will get a 4th season if it keeps up like this. This show was at its best when it shows people what they don't already see 24/7 on TV - church (round table meetings/votes), wild biker parties, underworld politics,nutless clowns, acid trips....

****en Katey Sagal slurring out her "it's ok baby"'s in every 2nd scene because her husband wrote or had her written eyes deep into every script

need Breaking Bad....now

Fwoy
9 Oct 2010, 04:34
there is no way this will get a 4th season if it keeps up like this.

need Breaking Bad....now

:p

FX Orders Fourth Season of Its Hit Drama Sons of Anarchy

SONS PUT IT IN 4th GEAR

FX Orders Fourth Season of Its Hit Drama Sons of Anarchy

Critically Acclaimed Drama Starring Charlie Hunnam, Ron Perlman and Katey Sagal Is Basic Cable’s #1 Scripted Series Among Adults 18-49

8 All New Episodes Remain This Season Airing Tuesdays at 10 PM ET/PTWith Season Three Finale Airing November 30

LOS ANGELES, October 7, 2010 – FX has renewed its critically acclaimed hit drama Sons of Anarchy for a fourth season, placing a 13-episode order from Fox 21 and FX Productions, announced John Landgraf, President and General Manager, FX Networks.

Eight all-new episodes remain in SOA’s current third season airing Tuesdays at 10pm et/pt, and beginning in two weeks the encore runs will air Tuesdays at 11pm and 1am, Fridays at 10pm and Sundays at 10pm. The third season finale will air on Tuesday, November 30.

In 2010, Sons of Anarchy ranks as basic cable’s number one scripted series in delivery of Adults 18-49. On a weekly, multi-telecast basis, Sons of Anarchy delivers 8.6 million Total Viewers and 5.9 million Adults 18-49. On a first-run, primary telecast basis, Sons averages 4.9 million Total Viewers and 3.4 million Adults 18-49. It is the highest rated series ever for FX.

“Sons of Anarchy is the most popular show FX has ever had, and the #1 series in basic cable for our key demographic. It is also one of the best, most original series on television,” said Landgraf. “FX is grateful to Kurt Sutter and his team of writers, actors, directors and crew for working so hard to make a show that achieves both those levels of success. We congratulate them and look forward to season four.”

In the next episode of Sons of Anarchy (“The Push,” October 12, 10pm et/pt), the Sons of Anarchy must handle a rat at St. Thomas to protect their territory.

Sons of Anarchy was created by Kurt Sutter who also serves as Executive Producer along with John and Art Linson. The series is produced by FX Productions and Fox 21. Fox 21 is Twentieth Century Fox Television’s alternative production arm devoted to producing high quality programming on a lower cost basis.

Schism
9 Oct 2010, 05:22
:p

FX Orders Fourth Season of Its Hit Drama Sons of Anarchy

SONS PUT IT IN 4th GEAR

FX Orders Fourth Season of Its Hit Drama Sons of Anarchy

Critically Acclaimed Drama Starring Charlie Hunnam, Ron Perlman and Katey Sagal Is Basic Cable’s #1 Scripted Series Among Adults 18-49

8 All New Episodes Remain This Season Airing Tuesdays at 10 PM ET/PTWith Season Three Finale Airing November 30

LOS ANGELES, October 7, 2010 – FX has renewed its critically acclaimed hit drama Sons of Anarchy for a fourth season, placing a 13-episode order from Fox 21 and FX Productions, announced John Landgraf, President and General Manager, FX Networks.

Eight all-new episodes remain in SOA’s current third season airing Tuesdays at 10pm et/pt, and beginning in two weeks the encore runs will air Tuesdays at 11pm and 1am, Fridays at 10pm and Sundays at 10pm. The third season finale will air on Tuesday, November 30.

In 2010, Sons of Anarchy ranks as basic cable’s number one scripted series in delivery of Adults 18-49. On a weekly, multi-telecast basis, Sons of Anarchy delivers 8.6 million Total Viewers and 5.9 million Adults 18-49. On a first-run, primary telecast basis, Sons averages 4.9 million Total Viewers and 3.4 million Adults 18-49. It is the highest rated series ever for FX.

“Sons of Anarchy is the most popular show FX has ever had, and the #1 series in basic cable for our key demographic. It is also one of the best, most original series on television,” said Landgraf. “FX is grateful to Kurt Sutter and his team of writers, actors, directors and crew for working so hard to make a show that achieves both those levels of success. We congratulate them and look forward to season four.”

In the next episode of Sons of Anarchy (“The Push,” October 12, 10pm et/pt), the Sons of Anarchy must handle a rat at St. Thomas to protect their territory.

Sons of Anarchy was created by Kurt Sutter who also serves as Executive Producer along with John and Art Linson. The series is produced by FX Productions and Fox 21. Fox 21 is Twentieth Century Fox Television’s alternative production arm devoted to producing high quality programming on a lower cost basis.

It will have a delayed effect, this Katey Sagal 90% screen time shit. Watch it happen.

The show has a good and growing base because of the first 2 seasons

IanG
9 Oct 2010, 07:45
It will have a delayed effect, this Katey Sagal 90% screen time shit. Watch it happen.

The show has a good and growing base because of the first 2 seasons
I wouldn't go as far as you but I do agree its gone downhill this season, the plots are simply uninteresting. Who wants a whole season of trying to find Abel or several episodes in a row of Gemma putting her father in a home.

Jonesy1987
9 Oct 2010, 07:50
Agreed its losing its way. Leaving out some of the more interesting characters, like opie and Juice, some development would be nice. Looking forward to seeing what happens with Chibs and the backstory of Trigg and with Kenny Johnson (Lem).

Hopefully it picks up soon, cause this back and forth shit with Gemma menopausing and Jacks and Terra breaking up every 45 seconds is getting old quickly.

JR#8
9 Oct 2010, 14:14
Agree with all of you. This season has been the worst. The last episode though seems half decent so hopefully the second half of the season picks up.

midorigreenwood
10 Oct 2010, 00:20
I just don't get...... why wouldn't the irish just give the baby back!!!!

doesn't make much sense to me :/

I thought it would just be a one episode plotline...... but its been freaking dragged through half the season so far

grrrrrrrrrhhhh

only shining light has been stephen king...... best cameo ever

thank goodness for that other FX show Terriers although that probably won't make it past one season.

hawks_time
10 Oct 2010, 00:28
only shining light has been stephen king...... best cameo ever

D'oh, knew I recognised that guy!

flight23
10 Oct 2010, 01:24
what the **** is up with that atf investigator chicks mouth? it is the weirdest case of some form of botox or something gone wrong

and shes shit

JR#8
10 Oct 2010, 06:47
what the **** is up with that atf investigator chicks mouth? it is the weirdest case of some form of botox or something gone wrong

and shes shit


Don't you watch the show? Shes been muchie munchie....that's why. :D

IanG
10 Oct 2010, 07:59
what the **** is up with that atf investigator chicks mouth? it is the weirdest case of some form of botox or something gone wrong

and shes shit
Its definitely botox.

Jonesy1987
10 Oct 2010, 08:10
Botox? Thought it was was a minor hairlip.

JR#8
13 Oct 2010, 20:21
Another solid episode...starting to pick up slowly but is lacking in the action department at the moment!

Fwoy
21 Oct 2010, 00:45
A bit more action this week...hope it appeases those less interested in the story and more in the bikers being bikers. A close up of a rather tidy female bum to start the show...two bitch-slaps and a female roundhouse. We even got ourselves a bit of a blood spill in a public toilet. A few stories moved forward in the one week. Belfast next week...

Schism
21 Oct 2010, 15:39
yay lets take gemma on a ****ing war tour to northern ireland.gemma gemma gemma. let's rename the show to gemma.


what a crock of shit

Jonesy1987
21 Oct 2010, 22:01
Agreed. That last seen as they were getting on the freighter was laughable.

WTF has happened to this show.

JR#8
22 Oct 2010, 09:10
Agreed. Taking Gemma is a stupid storyline.

**** me the show has been shit-house this season.

flight23
22 Oct 2010, 12:27
jax dump the doc and bone porn chicks, seriously
peggy track down al
obie, you were on the right path, do not grow a heart
ireland, we barely give a shit
abel get your ass home you are boring millions and no one knows why you weren't given back in the first place

SAMCRO - LIIIIIIIIIIFT!!!!!!!!!!!!

IanG
22 Oct 2010, 23:06
Agreed. That last seen as they were getting on the freighter was laughable.

WTF has happened to this show.

Kurt Sutter's desire for his wife to win an emmy has happened. A damn disgrace. What, the big bad samcro can't go to Ireland without mummy Gemma there to hold their hands. **** me!

Jonesy1987
23 Oct 2010, 04:40
Kurt Sutter's desire for his wife to win an emmy has happened. A damn disgrace. What, the big bad samcro can't go to Ireland without mummy Gemma there to hold their hands. **** me!

I laughed at Tig "You need your mom more". Yes... I'm sure they could use their head case mother, an international fugitive more than the toughest go to guy at their disposal while fighting the IRA. Would seriously be the best move for all in she dies.

AGRESSION
26 Oct 2010, 17:45
Just a heads up.
Kurt Sutter on twitter has said that this weeks episode is 90 mins. Due to being the introduction of Samcro back into Ireland. The show will slowly pick up the pace then........................................BANG !!!

flight23
26 Oct 2010, 18:03
so gemma gemma gemma gemma gemma gemma SAMCRO the end

Schism
26 Oct 2010, 18:07
Just a heads up.
Kurt Sutter on twitter has said that this weeks episode is 90 mins. Due to being the introduction of Samcro back into Ireland. The show will slowly pick up the pace then........................................BANG !!!

as long as gemma is there to keep the RIRA in check, SAMCRO should survive!

i ****ing hate katey sagal as a result of this show, whereas early on in the show i liked the part she was playing. it's like when the sopranos was having too much carmela or meadow and whichever dud she was dating. Although the show was still always explosive or at least funny. whenever i feel a long gemma scene coming on in SoA, i sigh and surf the net or make food or something while just vaguely listening to her dribble to make sure i don't miss any important tidbits

Fwoy
29 Oct 2010, 00:57
Trinity goes alright, but I am not too keen on the incest on the horizon...

Schism
29 Oct 2010, 04:08
Another dud episode

Fwoy
29 Oct 2010, 11:52
So what exactly are you looking for from this show Schism (besides Gemma being killed off several times over)?

flight23
29 Oct 2010, 13:57
less pregnancies for starters

Schism
29 Oct 2010, 15:54
So what exactly are you looking for from this show Schism (besides Gemma being killed off several times over)?

Maybe a scene where 20 odd American and Irish 1%'ers can handle 4 dodgy cops instead of Gemma having to do it for them. You know, just a *pinch* of reality, because at the moment it is parody...or even worse...just shit comedy. It's almost like The Bold & The Beautiful have decided to do a "gritty" story arc involving bikies.

Fwoy
30 Oct 2010, 00:06
Maybe a scene where 20 odd American and Irish 1%'ers can handle 4 dodgy cops instead of Gemma having to do it for them. You know, just a *pinch* of reality, because at the moment it is parody...or even worse...just shit comedy. It's almost like The Bold & The Beautiful have decided to do a "gritty" story arc involving bikies.

Hmmm, yeah, I knew when that scene happened you would be all over it, but I mean in a more overall sense, you called it "another dud episode", so I am asking what story you expect?...I mean, the IRA story has been embedded since series one, where they were running the guns. Sutter said on the BD extras this season was always gonna flesh out the characters and that story.

Do you think it is only because Katey Sagal is his wife that you dislike her character, or is a matriarch that bore a son to one founder and is hitched up with the other not expected to have some pull/influence? Would Kath Pettingill or Judy Moran not be believable characters even though they really existed? Personally I'm more put off by the Tara character than Gemma, but still not enough to be turned off the show by it. I'd rather have characters with a modicum of depth than just cookie cut out bikies that shoot at Mexicans week-in week-out whilst never dieing. That would be where it became a true parody...more in the 60s Batman vein though...

At some point you gotta ask yourself "Why watch it?" if you dislike it THAT much...

Schism
30 Oct 2010, 00:43
Hmmm, yeah, I knew when that scene happened you would be all over it, but I mean in a more overall sense, you called it "another dud episode", so I am asking what story you expect?...I mean, the IRA story has been embedded since series one, where they were running the guns. Sutter said on the BD extras this season was always gonna flesh out the characters and that story.

Do you think it is only because Katey Sagal is his wife that you dislike her character, or is a matriarch that bore a son to one founder and is hitched up with the other not expected to have some pull/influence? Would Kath Pettingill or Judy Moran not be believable characters even though they really existed? Personally I'm more put off by the Tara character than Gemma, but still not enough to be turned off the show by it. I'd rather have characters with a modicum of depth than just cookie cut out bikies that shoot at Mexicans week-in week-out whilst never dieing. That would be where it became a true parody...more in the 60s Batman vein though...

At some point you gotta ask yourself "Why watch it?" if you dislike it THAT much...

The fact is no women have that kind of pull in a club, it doesn't matter if she's married to a president or not. Other members certainly don't give a shit in reality, and the club comes before anyone....so i've heard

Also, i don't dislike her char because she's married to Sutter, i dislike it because Sutter has injected Gemma into every single ****ing scene in the show because she's his wife. It's boring. 1st two seasons were about SoA mostly. This season is about the WAGs and it's giving me the shits, if i wanted to watch teary chicks every 2nd scene i'd watch greys anatomy or whatever the ****.

I am struggling to watch it. This season it takes me about 5 goes to watch an episode, i generally cut it off after 10 minutes of boredom and pick it up again later.

Fwoy
30 Oct 2010, 01:23
The fact is no women have that kind of pull in a club, it doesn't matter if she's married to a president or not. Other members certainly don't give a shit in reality, and the club comes before anyone....so i've heard

Also, i don't dislike her char because she's married to Sutter, i dislike it because Sutter has injected Gemma into every single ****ing scene in the show because she's his wife. It's boring. 1st two seasons were about SoA mostly. This season is about the WAGs and it's giving me the shits, if i wanted to watch teary chicks every 2nd scene i'd watch greys anatomy or whatever the ****.

I am struggling to watch it. This season it takes me about 5 goes to watch an episode, i generally cut it off after 10 minutes of boredom and pick it up again later.

Yeah, except for the storyline in season one about her and Tara, and Jax's ex-wife and the baby...or season two with the whole rape storyline and the subsequent quasi-crush that Unser had on her, finishing up with her role in the murder of Zobelle's daughter...face it, she's been an integral part of the show since day dot. We're not talking about an old lady that just joined the club, we are talking one that's been there since its inception...involved with both founding members...behind every great man is a manipulative bitch.

And as for wives and girlfriends being more this season...Donna in season one, Jax's ex in season one, Tara in all three seasons...

one more before I go...how can we not enjoy lines like the following?:

Tara: What is up with those two?
Chuckie: Not sure, but judging by the level of malevolence, there's gotta be at least one vagina involved...
Tara: Thanks for the insight

Schism
30 Oct 2010, 03:33
Yeah, except for the storyline in season one about her and Tara, and Jax's ex-wife and the baby...or season two with the whole rape storyline and the subsequent quasi-crush that Unser had on her, finishing up with her role in the murder of Zobelle's daughter...face it, she's been an integral part of the show since day dot. We're not talking about an old lady that just joined the club, we are talking one that's been there since its inception...involved with both founding members...behind every great man is a manipulative bitch.

And as for wives and girlfriends being more this season...Donna in season one, Jax's ex in season one, Tara in all three seasons...

one more before I go...how can we not enjoy lines like the following?:

Tara: What is up with those two?
Chuckie: Not sure, but judging by the level of malevolence, there's gotta be at least one vagina involved...
Tara: Thanks for the insight

Season 1 and 2 they were peripheral. You can't seriously be saying it was this bad in the 1st two seasons. What about the new episode where we get to stare at gemmas expressionless face for like 10 minutes when she meets the blonde irish girl. Or whenever gemma rocks up somewhere in a car, and we get to stare at her jutted out jawline for 5 minutes while she surveys the land. It's goofball stuff.

hey..hey guys...ok guys...close in on my wifes face...ok..keep it there...keeeeep iiiiiiit...keeeeeeeeeep iiiiiiiiit.....ok...just a few more seconds....keep it there while i go write the next script, with 35 minutes of katey

The "women' storylines in the 1st couple of seasons were believable at least

IanG
30 Oct 2010, 08:16
Hmmm, yeah, I knew when that scene happened you would be all over it, but I mean in a more overall sense, you called it "another dud episode", so I am asking what story you expect?...I mean, the IRA story has been embedded since series one, where they were running the guns. Sutter said on the BD extras this season was always gonna flesh out the characters and that story.
The background has been embedded, it doesn't mean the plot had to proceed the way its done. The build up to going to Ireland was far too drawn out and the plots during the build up were dramatically uninteresting unless you want to watch soaps.

Fwoy
18 Nov 2010, 01:04
Ok, so three weeks have passed and we have seen nothing but mayhem and carnage. Belfast has brought so much death and destruction, near incest (Sutter apparently tweeted that he wanted to go to penetration, but Standards and Practices wouldn't allow it :eek:) and double crosses. SAMBEL and the IRA have a fair bit of clean-up on their hands. Two more eps left for the season and we head back to Charming full-time. Tara is in a world of trouble, Jimmy has the Priest and a date with death, Jax has the letters and will (I guess) learn more about his father's death and Gemma and Clay's involement, big-brother-Hale has issues to cover up and Stahl is looking to return to her worst. Looks like a fair bit to cram in.

Jonesy1987
25 Nov 2010, 00:58
Best episode of the season so far.

Fwoy
25 Nov 2010, 13:02
Best episode of the season so far.

Do you find this show messes with your own personal emotions? I read a lot of people who get quite excited with say the torture and subsequent execution of O'Neill, and the murder of Salazar and his ol' lady. Yet right before each incident I feel sorrow for these characters. Perhaps thats just down to good writing and acting...guess I'll never make it in an MC :p. Hale on the other hand...can't wait to see that prick get what's coming to him...or at least a haircut. :D Oh and how cold is Stahl...really??

Schism
26 Nov 2010, 03:34
It's been a bit better the last 2 shows. Interesting factoid of the day, Happy from SoA is a member of the Hells Angels in real life.