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matty p

13 Jan 2009, 11:54

*The video in post 7 contains big Gabon spoilers*

Survivor Tocantins premieres in the US on Feb 12th. Jeff Probst has said that it's a very different series to Gabon, with a more likeable cast and a game that plays out very differently. I really liked the dynamic that developed in Gabon, but this season should also be a nice change.

Here's the cast:

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Jalapao (Red Tribe):

1. Sandy Burgin, 53, bus driver from Louisville- This hyper, tattooed grandmother knew she was perfect for Survivor, so she flew to Seattle to be the first to audtion. "My willpower is phenomenal," she says. "On a scale of one to 10, it's a 12."

2. Stephen Fishbach, 29, corporate consultant from New York City- Call him a speechwriter, a spam master or a Muppet. (He thinks he looks like Kermit.) But don't call him "Fish." "That's my nickname at home," he says. "I can't [use it] here because when I can't fish, I'm going to look like an idiot."

3. James Thomas Jr., 24, cattle rancher from Samson, Ala.- Warning: This cowboy knows how to take down prey. "Deer, turky, wild hog, coyote-everything you're allowed to hunt in Alabama I've hunted," he says. "I'm a country boy."

4. Spencer Duhm, 19, college sophomore from Lakeland, Fla.- Survivor fan Duhm has been studying the game since he was 11. That's why he plans to trust no one, saying, "You have to assume they're going to screw you before you screw them over."

5. Sydney Wheeler, 24, model/interior designer from San Diego.- How will she outlast the competition? "I plan to make alliances with the athletic guys," she say. "They are cute and they'll be good at the challenges." And plan B? :If I've gotta flirt, I'm gonna flirt. Work with what you've got. Right?"

11. Carolina Eastwood, 26, bartender from Los Angeles- How did this fire-spitting Panamanian-American prep for Survivor? "I got lasered from head to toe," she says. "Because I'm ethnic in the hairiest sense of the word. And I did not want to scare people with my overgrown armpits."

12. Taj Johnson-George, 37, former member of the Grammy-nominated R&B group SWV from Nashville- "There's a stigma that comes with being married to an NFL player," says the wife of former Tennessee Titan Eddie George. "People think we're pampered. But I'm not. I'm a 5'9", 190-pound tomboy. I'm gon' tear 'em up when I get out there."

13. Joe Dowdle, 26, commercial real-estate broker from Austin- Dowdle's strategy? Persuade and evade. "If it works, I will have pulled off something miraculous. If not, I'll get pretty far anyway. I told my mom before I left. "I'll see you out there."

Timbira (Black Tribe):

6. Jerry Sims, 49, U.S. Army sergeant from Rock Hill, S.C.- First Sergeant Sims may have charmed his 100 soldier Army Reserves company "with a smile and a little manipulation," but things will be different on Survivor. "I don't want to be the boss," he says. "The leader gets axed too early."

7. Candace Smith, 31, lawyer-turned-actress/event planner from Los Angeles- Fertilized eggs? Insects? "I'll swallow it," says Smith. "Having to eat something [weird] for a chance to win a million dollars is nothing to me. I grew up eating chitlins."

8. Tyson Apostol, 29, bike-shop manager from Lindon, Utah- Why do Survivor? "Because I'd be good at it. May as well go and win," says the former pro cyclist, who rides 31 mph. "And $1 million in two months isn't a bad paycheck." All he has to do now is perfect his strategy of "pushing people's buttons."

9. Sierra Reed, 23, model from Los Angeles- Not only did this beauty not have to try out to get on Survivor ("I was at a taco stand when the recruiters came up to me," she says), she doesn't need the prize. "Money comes and goes," says Reed, who turned down a Tommy Hilfiger campaign to do the show. "If I'd saved when I was just starting out, I'd be a multimillionaire by now.

10. Erinn Lobdell, 26, hairstylist from Waukesha, Wis.- Lobdell says she can get a stranger to trust her within five minutes. It's a gift she hopes will pay off. "I work at a nice salon, so if this works out for me, I'll be the new owner when I get home."

14. Benjamin Wade, 37, soccer coach/part-time orchestra conductor from Bolivar, Mo.- "I'm in this game because I want to change it," says Wade, who kayaked 6,132 miles from Baja, California, to Colombia-alone. "it's become survival of the weakest. I want the strongest to survive. I want to team up with worthy opponents. May the best man or woman win."

15. Debra Beebe, 46, middle=school principal from Auburn, Ala.- "The potty thing is freaking me out," says the self-described adventure seeker, who left the comfort of her eight bedroom home to rough it. "Digging a hole and going Big Bathroom in the middle of nowhere...having to wipe with your hands...Is my body going to shut down because I can't do it?"

16. Brendan Synnot, 30, entrepreneur from NYC.- First he sold his Bear Naked Granola business to Kellogg's as part of a $122 million dollar deal. Now Synnott's got to test his mettle. "I think it's healthy to have everything taken from you and then have to rebuild" he says/ "That's good character building.

Will be interesting to see whether Ben can really change the way the game is played and take the powerful players all the way. I've always wanted to see this happen.

dmc333

13 Jan 2009, 20:52

Christ, how quickly are they pumping these things out now. The last one only just finished.

matty p

13 Jan 2009, 20:56

Christ, how quickly are they pumping these things out now. The last one only just finished.

They always have one season starting in February and another in September every year.

likka

14 Jan 2009, 15:12

They have always had two a year dmc, what rock have you been living under?

First one each year is the beginning of prime time ratings season (ie September), second one starts just after the Superbowl at the beginning of February.

Hopefully this season is better than Gabon, which suffered badly from boring location selection and the casting of way too many dumb, uninteresting people.

Warsaw

14 Jan 2009, 18:19

Well **** me, Still no Gabon Nine?? :mad:

I'd rather them just fast track this.

Warsaw

14 Jan 2009, 18:20

BTW Where the did Reality TV board go?

red+black

14 Jan 2009, 19:09

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Spencer Duhm, 19, college sophomore from Lakeland, Fla.- Survivor fan Duhm has been studying the game since he was 11. That's why he plans to trust no one, saying, "You have to assume they're going to screw you before you screw them over."

First contestant < 21yo.

BTW Where the did Reality TV board go?

That's what I was wondering :confused:

dmc333

14 Jan 2009, 19:16

They have always had two a year dmc, what rock have you been living under?

I watch them. I dunno, I just thought this was coming quick on the heels of the last. To tell you the truth I never gave much attention to the schedule.

red+black

14 Jan 2009, 19:23

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red+black

14 Jan 2009, 19:31

12. Taj Johnson-George, 37, former member of the Grammy-nominated R&B group SWV from Nashville- "There's a stigma that comes with being married to an NFL player," says the wife of former Tennessee Titan Eddie George. "People think we're pampered. But I'm not. I'm a 5'9", 190-pound tomboy. I'm gon' tear 'em up when I get out there."

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red+black

14 Jan 2009, 19:42

Sydney Wheeler, 24, model/interior designer from San Diego.- How will she outlast the competition? "I plan to make alliances with the athletic guys," she say. "They are cute and they'll be good at the challenges." And plan B? :If I've gotta flirt, I'm gonna flirt. Work with what you've got. Right?"

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matty p

14 Jan 2009, 19:58

First contestant < 21yo.

Frosti was 20 when Survivor China was filmed. They waived the age restrictions for him before lowering it to 18 for this season.

Admiral Afterworld

14 Jan 2009, 22:48

Panama was the last season I watched. When Cook Islands started I was in the process of moving house and it was also around the time Nine really started dicking around with timeslots and delaying the show by months. I had already tired of the show a bit (I had watched from the first season) and didn't care enough to bother downloading it. It seemed as the show went on the number of lame casting choices of models and actors based on their looks just increased and took away the true characters, although maybe it just became more transparent to me.

I think I also just tired of the whole reality genre, at least shows like this that are too slickly edited and contrived. Around this time I stopped watching The Amazing Race too because of their obsession with constantly playing blaring mood music.

"Sydney Wheeler, 24, model"

"Carolina Eastwood, 26, bartender from Los Angeles"

"Candace Smith, 31, lawyer-turned-actress/event planner from Los Angeles"

"Sierra Reed, 23, model from Los Angeles"

Wow sounds interesting and fresh :rolleyes:

dmc333

15 Jan 2009, 05:58

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matty p

15 Jan 2009, 13:07

There's now videos and photos up for each cast member plus a Jeff Probst video on the Survivor website.

http://www.cbs.com/primetime/survivor/video/?category=editorial

My very early tips for the season:

1st: Tyson (in an alliance with Erinn, Brendan and Benjamin)
2nd: Erinn
3rd: Brendan
4th: Benjamin
5th: Sierra
6th: Carolina
7th: Joe
8th: Jerry
9th: James
10th: Spencer

Of course I don't expect to be right, but these are the impressions that I have drawn from watching the videos of each castaway.

I think that the alliance that Ben makes will prevail, however he will be voted out before the end by Tyson. I think Erinn will either make it to the end or be an early boot depending on whether she gets into this alliance. If she doesn't than I think Sierra will be the girl to make it far. Also not sure whether Brendan or Jerry will make it to the final 4, but Brendan seems like a stronger competitor.

I think Jerry and James (JT) will both be popular characters in the series and both make the merge, and Joe will be the leader of the other tribe and win a few individual immunity challenges. Spencer seems like a great gamer but that might mean he is voted out by the other tribe straight after the merge. Carolina will make it to the merge if she teams up with these guys in her tribe.

Lotch

16 Jan 2009, 10:08

Well **** me, Still no Gabon Nine?? :mad:

I'd rather them just fast track this.

Yeah I'd be happy if they skip Gabon and fast track Tocantins

PHX

16 Jan 2009, 11:10

Gabon wasnt that great for most of the series anyway, although I watched it after Fans vs Favourites which I thought was excellent, so hopefully Nine move straight on to a hopefully better series.

matty p

16 Jan 2009, 15:05

I actually thought Gabon was really good and produced a lot of big characters, both good and evil. Amongst Survivor fans and the media, it is generally regarded as the third really good season in a row after China and Micronesia. Hoping for a fourth with Tocantins now.

I'd recommend people who haven't seen Gabon to give it a go. Particularly from the time that there are about 12 people left, it really heats up.

likka

16 Jan 2009, 18:19

matty p

16 Jan 2009, 20:16

Gabon was not well received actually.

After really good seasons in Panama, Cook Islands, Fiji, China and Micronesia... Gabon as a series was nowhere near that level of quality.

Still well worth watching, but after so many seasons of great locations and casting they kind of missed the target.

Anyway, really hoping Gabon was a glitch and they are back on their A game with Tocantins.

Actually the general opinion is more like:

Panama - Good
Cook Islands - OK
Fiji - Bad
China - Really good
Micronesia - Best
Gabon - Good

I'll try and find you some examples of this general consensus of the fans if you don't believe it. In saying this, I really liked Cook Islands even though it was not received well.

Additionally, Gabon's ratings were consistently higher than Micronesia's. Along with the big characters that developed, one of the main reasons for Gabon's popularity was the great tribal councils that the season produced, much like Guatemala and apparently Marquesas. I must add that Jeff doesn't really seem to like these 3 seasons because they were more bitter and in harsh conditions, but they were still received relatively well by the fans.

masked magpie

19 Jan 2009, 02:27

matty p

12 Feb 2009, 20:44

The first episode of Survivor Tocantins airs tonight in the US. Jeff Probst has said that he thinks it will go down as 1 of the top 5 seasons of Survivor.

My tips:

1st episode:
Immunity - Jalapao
Voted off - Candace

Season results:
1st: Benjamin (Coach)
2nd: Brendan
3rd: Jerry
4th: Sierra
5th: Joe
6th: Tyson
7th: Debbie
8th: JT
9th: Carolina
10th: Sydney

It will be interesting to come back and see if I get any of these predictions correct.

Zarrix

13 Feb 2009, 01:03

Darn, I wish that Nine would stop beating us Survivor fans around the bush. This will be the first series I will be watching via other means >_>

I don't see why nine can't give Survivor another shot, fast tracked and at a reasonable hour. It would need to be fast tracked or half of the potential audience would of already downloaded it.

Zarrix

13 Feb 2009, 01:05

nice - but what will she look like after 39 days of mud grime and crap

aka - no make up !!

In my opinion, a lot of the lady contestants actually look better after 39 days out in the island than they do all done up:D

matty p

13 Feb 2009, 21:13

Great 1st episode. I like the Timbira tribe much more and they look like they may be the dominant tribe of the series with many of the big characters.

Wouldn't be surprised if any of Coach, Brendan, Tyson, Jerry, Erinn or Sierra (even though she is on the outs right now) wins the series. Those 6 would also be my favourite players so far.

Coach looks to be the power player, and will try to lead 3 of these other 5 "strong" players to the final 4. Brendan didn't seem so receptive of Coach's initial revealing of this plan, so it will be interesting to see if it works. Not sure if Tyson will be included but he looks to be the likeable villain of the season. Joe and JT seem to be the leaders of Jalapao.

Good position:
Coach
Brendan
Jerry
Tyson
Joe
JT

OK Position:
Erinn
Spencer
Taj
Sydney
Stephen

Bad Position:
Sierra (However, I think she will rebound and be a significant character in the series)
Sandy

Unknown:
Debbie
Candace

I think Sandy will be next to go for Jalapao, as I doubt she'll find the idol, and Debbie or Candace will be the 1st person to be voted off Timbira.

Zarrix

14 Feb 2009, 00:06

This just seems like its going to be a great series, some great characters, good setting. Sandy is a dead ringer of the cat lady off The Simpsons =D. Some nice chicks as well, ^_^

The suprise at the beginning of the show was a deadset cracker, infact the two surprises =D.

arakaan

16 Feb 2009, 16:02

sandy is a dead ringer of the cat lady off the simpsons =d.

very true. :d

likka

17 Feb 2009, 13:08

This season looks fantastic already.

They dropped the ball with Gabon, but the cast and location looks much better this season. Fewer dumb people, a good mix of athleticism and age, and a couple of nutters for good measure.

Sandy deserved to stay as she looked strong in the challenge, but man she is one dumb lady. Fancy not knowing what a pace is when reading immunity idol instructions.

Hope the Alabama cattle rancher goes a long way, but got a feeling that without a strong alliance his social skill will cost him at some stage.

The basketball / rugby challenge shown in the highlights for next week's show looks great. Love the challenges that involve the teams fighting, mud wrestling and ripping each other's clothes off.

matty p

17 Feb 2009, 21:41

Hope the Alabama cattle rancher goes a long way, but got a feeling that without a strong alliance his social skill will cost him at some stage.

I reckon JT will at least make the merge as he seems to be the leader of the tribe, a likeable guy, and their strongest member so they are unlikely to vote him out early.

I expect that we will be shown the alliances form on both tribes in the next episode as apart from Coach approaching Brendan we weren't really shown any alliances during the 1st episode.

PHX

19 Feb 2009, 20:37

Saddest part about Caroline leaving is that her norks spent no where near enough time on my screen. ;)

Timbira look the strongest for sure although Jalepao did a decent job in a challenge until the maze debacle.

**** Sandy is a simpleton and lol at the cat lady similarity. Spot on. :thumbsu:

Zarrix

19 Feb 2009, 21:33

Saddest part about Caroline leaving is that her norks spent no where near enough time on my screen. ;)

She had quite possibly one of the most annoying voices I have ever heard. Total switch off, regardless of her chest. Sydney, Erin and Sierra are all better.

New ep should be available tomorrow afternoon sometime, though I wont be able to watch until Saturday Morning, but Ill be a tad tipsy then :p

Zarrix

21 Feb 2009, 02:22

matty p

21 Feb 2009, 12:10

A few interesting twists in the second episode, we saw exile 'island' for the first time, which has an extra little spice added to it this season. Also I found it interesting that there is only one challenge per episode now. That could change when the tribes merge though. This is shaping up to be a really good season, as good as FvF though? That season will be hard to beat

Candace gets eliminated at tribal council.

Another great episode and this season looks like it's gonna be full of great moments.

Exile Island is a lot more interesting this season with the 2 people and the option to mutiny. I wonder if anyone will actually switch tribes when given the opportunity. After last night's episode, I wouldn't be surprised if Erinn mutinies to Jalapao in the next few episodes.

Great physical challenge in this episode and was surprised at the winner. I think it's only 1 challenge per episode for the first few episodes only. Next episode or the one after I think will revert back to 2 challenges.

Coach, Tyson, Sierra and Brendan all seem to be great characters this season and hopefully they will go far.

Next episode looks interesting. I think that Taj is talking to Brendan again on Exile Island and making a cross-tribal alliance of four. I'm guessing Taj, Brendan, Sierra and one other, perhaps Sandy as she is the only other one in Jalapao not close to anyone else.

If they all make the merge, that will make for some interesting cross-tribal strategy.

likka

21 Feb 2009, 15:02

Can mods please put a spoiler warning in the thread title.

Pissed that Candace got voted out. She was intelligent, sassy, athletic, competitive and determined... also had an absolutely smoking body. Unfortunately she got overconfident and paid the price, but should have gone much further.

I hate Coach already. This is the sort of person I tend to despise in real life and never spend any time around. The type of bloke who is a supposed expert on everything, always offers a critical opinion, talks a big game, but rarely delivers.

Zarrix

1 Mar 2009, 18:29

Dissapointed to see Jerry go, seemed like a good guy.

Just by quick glance, Timbira should be smashing Jalapao, but they seem very confused atm, I would say tribe politics are playing a role in this. Weren't definitive in the challenges at all and it cost them big time. Coach's coaching tactics don't seem to be working too well at all, I don't think ive seen a guy more egomanic than him! To give him credit though, he is the most interesting character this season, and if he goes far, it will be intriguing indeed.

matty p

4 Mar 2009, 12:57

A quick idea for season 20:

Survivor 20: Heroes vs Villains -

Heroes:
Tom - Palau
Todd - China
Erik - Micronesia
Matty - Gabon
JT – Tocantins
Michelle - Fiji
Peih-Gee - China
Sugar - Gabon
Sierra - Tocantins
Taj - Tocantins

Villains:
Jean Robert – China/Judd - Guatemala
Kenny - Gabon
Randy - Gabon
Coach – Tocantins
Tyson - Tocantins
Courtney - China
Natalie - Micronesia
Corrine - Gabon
Erinn?/Season 19 Female
Season 19 Female

I think there has been so many big personalities, particularly villains, in recent seasons that it would be justified to have another All-Stars in season 20, especially considering there were only 10 All-Stars in Fans vs Favourites. I would love to see all of these people back in the game.

Zarrix

9 Mar 2009, 14:21

I didn't really want to see Sandy go, good character to have on the show, even if she does speak a lot of gibberish. But at the end of the day, the guys were never going to vote out the lovely Sydney.

The secret alliance forming could make the game very interesting towards the end, but it could oh so easily fall apart too. Coach may have a say in that too.

Zarrix

15 Mar 2009, 01:24

Better episode this week with quite a few things suprising me. Spencer for one. Taj's outburst too. And the both tribe alliance is showing signs of cracking before it comes into play. Can't believe that JT lost a good portion of a tooth too, could of been painful if the root was exposed. He did great guns in the challenge, I really felt sorry for him when Jalapao lost because the rest of his team were useless. He is one of my Favourite players too, hope he goes far.

And Erinn, really like her too. Especially regarding Coach, she can see right through his antics!

Bad news though, no new ep for 3 weeks :mad: Skip completely next week, the following week is a lame recap ep which Im not sure whether to waste my time with. Why there is a recap this early in a season, and why there is a random gap week, I don't know. Why not put the recap on next week? :mad:

buzzbuzz

15 Mar 2009, 20:58

I think the gap week is related to the American TV season. Something to do with a non-ratings period over Easter, I think.

God damn Coach is insane. He's hilariously deluded. I'm loving the cross-tribal alliance and I hope it succeeds. I get the feeling Steven might be hedging his bets with both JT and Taj.

Zarrix

15 Mar 2009, 21:10

But Easter Weekend doesn't start until 10th April, a week after it is supposed to return to new eps hmm :eek: So it could go something like this break ,recap ,new ep new ep, break, break. Woot...

matty p

15 Mar 2009, 23:41

The reason for the 2 week break is that CBS are showing the NCAA basketball tourney for the next few weeks. I love my bball but i still wish it didn't interfere with Survivor.

I was also surprised that Spencer was voted out. He must've been reeeeally bad in the immunity challenge. Hard to tell how the series is going to play out with the strongest alliance being between members of opposite tribes. Will be interesting to see if they stick together (Stephen doesn't seem so keen, maybe wanting to take JT with him). Tyson's suspicions of the alliance may also play a big part but they may not have a chance to vote Brendan off before the merge which will probably be after the next episode.

Zarrix

16 Mar 2009, 01:14

Still annoys me though that there is a recap episode after only 6 weeks. I mean surely Survivor fans don't have that short a memory, do we? ^_^

matty p

16 Mar 2009, 01:21

Still annoys me though that there is a recap episode after only 6 weeks. I mean surely Survivor fans don't have that short a memory, do we? ^_^

Yeah hopefully it'll mean they don't have another one later in the season. Once it gets past the merge I find it even more annoying having to wait an extra week for the next proper episode.

Zarrix

16 Mar 2009, 01:32

Yes, if they have another recap episode, I won't be too happy. In saying that, the two weeks off means that I may not be capped this month, at least thats something...

likka

6 Apr 2009, 14:49

Zarrix

6 Apr 2009, 22:11

The merge next episode will be really interesting.

Once again we have two idols in play, looks like someone will be humiliated again by playing a fake idol, and we have the potential of a secret cross tribe alliance that could really shake things up at the end (assuming they all make it).

Been a while since someone has had the social awareness to play a legimate idol and save themselves. Think it was Yaoman in China. People being blindsided whilst having an idol (or two!) has happened too much in recent seasons, hopefully a lesson has been learned.

A 6-4 advantage should be strong but I think that Erinn will flip, purely at the prospect of voting out Coach if nothing else. Man I cannot stand that know it all wanker.

Looking forward to the end of this season.

Coach may well be the biggest tool living on the planet. Still I want him to stay because he is so hilariously deluded!

The Idol these days is a poison barb, nothing more. Still I like it the way it is now, anyone who has the social conscience will get its full use. Wasn't the real idol used in FvF a couple of seasons ago? I remember there was a fake idol used as well. That is always hysterical.

The two people I would most like to win are Erin and JT.

matty p

7 Apr 2009, 00:53

Since they changed the rules of the hidden immunity idol we've had:

Fiji:
Edgardo voted off when his ally Alex used the idol thinking that he was the 1 being targeted
Yau-Man made fake idol
Yau-Man used a real idol to save himself after he and Earl had 1 each

China:
Jaime used a fake idol
James voted off with 2 idols

Micronesia:
Jason found Ozzy's fake idol which he gave to Eliza to use
Ozzy voted off with an idol in his possession
Jason voted off with an idol in his possession
Amanda used the idol to save herself

Gabon:
Randy given fake idol by Bob and voted off
Kenny tricked by Bob's second fake idol into allying with him and Corrinne
Sugar kept the idol the whole game until giving it to Matty at the end

Tocantins:
Exile Allies Brendan and Taj find the 2 idols
Joe finds Taj's fake idol

So only Yau-Man, Amanda and Sugar have used it to their advantage (although Sugar didn't really end up using it).

Onto the episode, it seemed to set up a very intriguing merge situation. Timbira have the majority, but the looming danger of Brendan and Sierra moving over to the Exile Alliance, or even Erinn teaming up with Joe, makes things very interesting and unpredictable. Hard to tell what's going to happen.

matty p

14 Apr 2009, 15:26

Great merge episode, apart from the fact that they didn't end up going to tribal council. The episode was dominated by Coach, Tyson, JT and Stephen, with Brendan being the new target. It would've been really interesting to see what would've happened at tribal council had it happened, however I wasn't unhappy to see Joe go as he was only a minor player in the game.

Tyson is hilarious and definitely my favourite player in the series. Gotta love his dry, sarcastic wit.

Next week - Coach vs Brendan - looks very interesting. I'm a bit concerned that Brendan will convince the exile alliance (including Stephen and JT) that Tyson is more of a threat then Coach and they will vote him out instead. However, I'm hoping that somehow Tyson and Coach manage to completely sway JT and Stephen over to their new alliance. Will be a great episode.

Zarrix

14 Apr 2009, 15:33

Great merge episode, apart from the fact that they didn't end up going to tribal council. The episode was dominated by Coach, Tyson, JT and Stephen, with Brendan being the new target. It would've been really interesting to see what would've happened at tribal council had it happened, however I wasn't unhappy to see Joe go as he was only a minor player in the game.

This is why I felt he was a chance if he hadn't infected his leg. In the background, but reared his head just enough to make sound decisions. Unfortunate for him.

Im really liking some of the characters this season, Erinn, JT and Tyson in particular. Has there ever been a bigger, more pretentious tool than Coach? And the guy gets about 2/3 of the air time. Might as well rename the show to give the viewers an idea of this ^_^

Also LOL at Coach refering to himself as Dragonslayer. As someone said on an American forum, " I can't believe there is a living Adult on this earth that refers to himself as Dragonslayer" :D

buzzbuzz

14 Apr 2009, 15:51

I really liked the merge ep. I'm loving Stephen more and more as a potential winner. He manages to develop legitimate relationships that in turn lead to him being included in alliances. He's very smart and seems to be approaching the game the right way; balancing his social game with his strategic one. After all, you need to get to the FTC with people respecting you and liking you after having been essentially voted out by you.

I'm starting to think that he might be better off going with Tyson, Coach, JT etc. Coach and JT would respond to an honour and honesty approch and Tyson is canny enough to know a good player when he sees one.

Oh yeah, I also think Tyson is a crack-up. I read on the TV Without Pity forum that a lot of people think he's weird, but I just think they don't get his sarcastic sense of humour.

matty p

14 Apr 2009, 17:46

Oh yeah, I also think Tyson is a crack-up. I read on the TV Without Pity forum that a lot of people think he's weird, but I just think they don't get his sarcastic sense of humour.

I've noticed this on a lot of forums too. Most Americans just don't seem to 'get' the type of sarcastic humour that Tyson uses. They just seem to think he's gay. In Australia, we use this kind of humour all the time and so we can fully appreciate Tyson as being a funny guy, not creepy.

matty p

14 Apr 2009, 17:50

This is why I felt he was a chance if he hadn't infected his leg. In the background, but reared his head just enough to make sound decisions. Unfortunate for him.

He wasn't really a good player who made sound decisions though. He was in an alliance with Sydney and Spencer, yet voted Spencer off instead of trying to target Taj or Stephen. He could've used Sandy before she was voted off to vote out the other Jalapao alliance, however they didn't do this. The Joe, Sydney and Spencer alliance wasn't really shown on the show because it didn't mean much in the end, however they have all mentioned it on their post game interviews as being their primary alliance in the game.

Oct19

14 Apr 2009, 17:58

Glad others are enjoying Tyson, he is my favourite player

I also think Coach is good value, because he is such a wanker. Dragonslayer :D What a tool.

hermolt

14 Apr 2009, 22:49

"He's felt my sweet breath on the nape of his neck...even the small of his back."

Awesome.

matty p

14 Apr 2009, 23:06

"He's felt my sweet breath on the nape of his neck...even the small of his back."

Awesome.

That's one of the best lines I've ever heard on Survivor. Probably the funniest thing on the show since watching James absolutely beast everyone in challenges in China and Micronesia.

likka

20 Apr 2009, 18:46

Damn I really wanted Coach to go, but in reality that was never going to happen... once again expectations are manipulated by some selective post production editing.

Coach really is a delusional nutjob, and is not playing with a full deck. Its almost like he's been telling himself these bullshit fantasy stories in his head so long he now believes them to be real.

I sincerely hope Jeff does some research before the reunion and confronts him with it. Would love nothing better than for him to be exposed as the delusional fraud he really is.

matty p

20 Apr 2009, 22:06

I'm glad Coach didn't go as he provides so much entertainment. As long as you don't take him seriously, you can just sit back and laugh at all his stories and everything he says. Coach and Tyson will go down as one of the funniest duos in Survivor history. Just as a matter of interest, Coach did actually apparently break the world record for longest solo kayaking expedition, so he isn't a complete fraud, he just has a much higher opinion of himself than he should.

Brendan played the game pretty well but let his guard down and was punished. It was fascinating to see each side try to blindside the other, but ultimately the dragon was slayed and we saw "who the chosen one is, Coach Wade"....lol.

I could see Tyson or Coach being blindsided this week if JT and Stephen can get Sierra and Erinn to swing to their side. Hope it doesn't happen though. I'm tipping JT or Stephen to win the game, as they seem to be in control at his stage as Stephen noted in the last episode and are well-liked and trusted by their other tribemates. However, as we all know, things can change very quickly in this game.

arakaan

25 Apr 2009, 09:13

Audacious

27 Apr 2009, 00:10

yes, yes, yes. awesome tribal council. That is what makes it still the best reality show on TV.

the change in look on Tyson and Coachs face from :D to :eek: when vote 2 came out for him, and then the 3rd was priceless. :thumbsu:
omg one of the best tribal councils ever!!! And sierra didnt even know she was getting saved!! Brilliant :thumbsu:

Now Coach and Debbie are sucking up to Sierra in the next episode hahahaha :D

Kick em in the nuts sierra. So glad that smug fck Tyson is gone :thumbsu::thumbsu:

Oct19

27 Apr 2009, 01:47

If they had any nouce they would try to get JT out next opportunity, clearly the best suited for the challenges and guarenteed quite a few jury votes as a likeable guy - Stephen has no chance if he goes through to the end with him.

I liked Tyson, but i like seeing a good blindside and what it means for the game more. :thumbsu:

buzzbuzz

27 Apr 2009, 01:50

I think Stephen will take JT to final four, then use whoever is left (Taj? Coach? Erinn?) to vote him out. If I was still in the game at this point I'd be trying to keep Coach around and make it to final 2 with him. Probably the easiest person left to beat in the final tribal council.

I loved the Tyson blindside, even though - like Oct19 - I liked him. It was the smart move and I was glad Stephen managed to swing it. How funny was the dramatic music when Sierra was pleading with Coach.

Audacious

27 Apr 2009, 15:03

^^ how could you both like Tyson? The bloke was an arrogant tosser :thumbsd:

buzzbuzz

27 Apr 2009, 15:19

Haha, I thought his sarcastic tone of voice betrayed the fact that he's just having a laugh and not taking anything too seriously. I didn't like his treatment of Sierra, but then apparently everyone hates her (even JT) so there must have been a reason for it.

likka

28 Apr 2009, 18:50

yes, yes, yes. awesome tribal council. That is what makes it still the best reality show on TV.

the change in look on Tyson and Coachs face from :D to :eek: when vote 2 came out for him, and then the 3rd was priceless. :thumbsu:

:thumbsu:

Loved the look on Coach's face when the tide started to turn and his wanky "Warrior's Alliance" crumbled into tribal council dirt. Brilliant blindside, hopefully the "Dragon Slayer" and his bullshit stories are next to go.

I actually liked Tyson too, despite being arrogant he had a great sense of humour and was a very capable social player. Look forward to his participation at the final tribal council, he has the potential to go off... especially if Sierra makes the finale.

Stephen and JT are controlling the game at the moment, and the others don't even realize it. Stephen seems like a monty for final 4 given his idol, and if they replace Brendan's idol he could end up with two.

Think the final four will be JT, Stephen, Taj and Erinn... although JT may well go earlier as some may not think they can beat him in the finale. For this sole reason Sierra may make it due to most people assuming she'll get no votes.

Brilliant series so far, really looking forward to the next few weeks.

PAFC_316

28 Apr 2009, 19:38

What I would love to see next episode, is for Coach to suck up to Sierra to try and save himself, but for her to say he should accept his fate and fall on his sword, like a true samurai warrior.

Sadly, I doubt she has the intelligence to say it.

matty p

30 Apr 2009, 14:13

Well the Warrior and the Wizard betrayed Coach's Warrior Alliance and voted off their biggest threat, the Assistant Coach. Epic blindside, not that I was happy since Tyson was my favourite character.

Should be an interesting episode tomorrow, with Coach trying to sway Erinn and Sierra back to the rabble that is Timbira. If Erinn was smart, she would switch back though, and vote out either JT or Stephen. The only chance she has to beat the Jalapao's is to continually flip back and forth between sides, thereby diminishing each alliance and eliminating threats. Not sure if she'll be clever enough to see that she's no chance if she sticks with the Jalapao's though.

Zarrix

2 May 2009, 12:11

Fairly pedestrian episode compared to last weeks imo. I am glad that Sierra is finally gone though, her whining and pleading was beginning to get on my nerves.

JT and Stephen are in total control of this game right now. At this point in time, I would definitely have Stephen as the favourite to win, because of JT's likability and physical strength, he may get blindsided at some stage.

Oct19

9 May 2009, 03:57

Seriously Coach is good value, when he met his mate: "They call me the Dragonslayer" :). Haven't heard anyone other than himself refer to him by that name. He reminds me of Cartman in that Fishsticks South Park ep. - creates his own mental version of the past to satisfy his own ego (Cartman even slays a dragon :))

Leafie

9 May 2009, 23:05

HAHAHAH....Coach lost his job as the soccer coach cause he lied about going on survivor! He said he was going away for cancer tests and once he was found out he got the sack!!! Seriously what a douche!

Zarrix

10 May 2009, 21:06

Seriously Coach...

"They call me the dragonslayer"

The fact that his assistant coach was his loved one

And those "stretches" they were doing.

He is editing GOLD. CBS must be laughing in their offices. What would of happened though if had gotten voted out earlier you say?, We would have Survivor Tocantins instead of the Benjamin Wade hour every Friday!

Oct19

16 May 2009, 00:50

Coach Wade thinks that Coach Wade can dig deep and fight on. Seriously the guy is like The Jimmy from Seinfeld :D.

Another loltastic perfomance, he is like every self help and mentoring cliche rolled into one. Some of Taj's expresions to the shit he was dribbling were priceless.

I think he is the only one who didn't get the memo on how much of a douce he is.

Audacious

16 May 2009, 02:52

as much as i disliked coach, so much of the humour is gone from the show now. How priceless was the poem!! All the jury were rolling their eyes and falling asleep hehe.

I hope Stephen, Erinn or Taj win it now. JT siding with Coach was pretty ordinary. Interesting to see for the first time that JT and Stephen voting for different people at tribal council.

Anyone else think it was odd that no-one played their immunity idol at the final chance? Stephen or Taj should have walked up and given it to Jeff just to be sure since every episode is a blindside.

Cant wait for the finale :)

Zarrix

16 May 2009, 03:19

Yep 3 hour finale (includes reunion too) will be great, cant wait! Also the reunion with coach will be funny stuff.

Zarrix

18 May 2009, 14:05

Finale tonight everyone! My money is on Stephen. If JT doesn't win immunity, I think he will get knocked out because everyone likes him on the jury.

matty p

19 May 2009, 15:48

JT plays the first "perfect game" (no votes against him throughout the game and a consensus final jury vote) and definitely deserves the win.

Coach is happy too, because he kinda did 'change the game' in a sense, as JT brought the strongest to the end and we got the Warrior vs Wizard matchup that we'd been hoping for.

Great season, and I think JT will go down as one of the best and most deserving winners in Survivor history. He combined strategy, physical prowess, survival skills and great social play to help him win the game.

Looking forward to Survivor: Samoa, coming in September.

Zarrix

19 May 2009, 18:15

Its too long to wait though:(

JT was a deserving winner, Stephen completely blew any chance he had of winning with terrible answers to Jury questions.

matty p

19 May 2009, 18:26

arakaan

19 May 2009, 19:53

JT winning was a big :thumbsu:.

survivor somoa. hmmmm not overly excited by another trip to the south pacific.

Zarrix

19 May 2009, 21:20

I would LOVE a season in a colder climate for once, but things might get a little too iffy if it is TOO cold. Survivor Alaska, or Iceland, or New Zealand would be fantastic though:thumbsu:

matty p

19 May 2009, 21:55

Yeah I really want them to go to the snow in Iceland for a season. It'd be the best place to have a cold climate season because there are plenty of hot springs where the players can spend their time in the water.

Also, who'd be up for another All-Stars season now (possibly Heroes vs Villains)?

Males:
Tom Westman - Palau
Judd Sargeant - Guatemala
Shane Powers - Exile Island
Todd Herzog - China
Erik Reichenbach - Micronesia
Ken Hoang - Gabon
Randy Bailey - Gabon
Coach Wade - Tocantins
Tyson Apostol - Tocantins
JT Thomas - Tocantins

Alternate:
Yul Kwon - Cook Islands

Females:
Sandra Diaz-Twine - Pearl Islands
Twila Tanner - Vanuatu
Candice Woodcock - Cook Islands
Courtney Yates - China
Peih-Gee Law - China
Natalie Bolton - Micronesia
Sugar Kiper - Gabon
Corinne Kaplan - Gabon
Taj George - Tocantins
Erinn Lobdell - Tocantins

Alternate:
Michelle Yi - Fiji

Alternatively, I really wouldn't be surprised to see Coach and Sugar to return in Survivor: Samoa to lead their tribes just as Stephenie and Bobby Jon did in Guatemala, particularly after hearing the "Warrior" theme emphasised on the preview for Samoa.

19 May 2009, 22:35

Yeah I've thought a season in a cold climate would be good for a while now, but I'm guessing it will never happen as they will stick with what they know works/ plus it might not work with freezing temps/night/lack of fire.

Pretty awesome season this one, this show still has it.

Zarrix

20 May 2009, 01:53

It would be great if they could find some location like that. Probably have to make some compromises, but geez I would kill for a Survivor in snow.

This season was excellent, but IMO it had nothing on Micronesia, which was the last season I watched. Ive had Gabon spoiled rudely as well >_<. Oh well, Im thinking of obtaining some of the seasons I have never watched, and also the Australian Outback season, THAT was the best season ever. I still remember when that man (Michael?) fell on the camp fire and got terrible burns. Horrible stuff.

And on another sad note, the winner of Survivor Africa (the third season) ;Ethan Zohn has been diagnosed with cancer =( Wish him well.

Audacious

20 May 2009, 01:54

Stephen was a bigger rat than JT, and JT definitely made the right choice in taking Stephen instead of Erinn. Stephen is one of those people who cant keep his mouth shut and always has to reply, and it was his biggest downfall at the final tribal council. He carried on like a kid and it cost him whatever chance he had at the million.

Zarrix

20 May 2009, 02:02

Audacious

20 May 2009, 02:07

I wonder how many votes Erin would of got? If she had won, it would of been a bit of an anti-climax though, she didn't even do much/get much air time. I would say Brendan and Tyson would of voted for Erinn, maybe Taj if she was blinded by dissapointment of the previous Tribal? And honestly, I have NFI which way Sierra would of went.

JT definitely made the right choice =D
Think Sierra would have voted for Erinn as well. Sierra had so much hate towards her, and Erinn was the only one who didnt vote out Sierra at Sierras final tribal council. Erinn definitely would have gotten more votes than Stephen against JT. Stephen who was good at strategy, is no social mastermind thats for sure. Once he opens his gob it all goes pear-shaped. Just comes across as slimy and calculating. He did have the best posture ive ever seen someone maintain though in those conditions for 40 days :o

Zarrix

20 May 2009, 02:21

Audacious

20 May 2009, 02:26

And just in case someone wanted to know, here is Coach's recently published book about his 'journeys' in the Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Voyage-Beyond-Reason-Survival-Original/dp/1432712349/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1242712357&sr=1-1

:D
lol not exactly glowing reviews by those who have read it. Not suprising either. The guy is full of it, and in love with himself. His "lady friend" in the reunion would have been some reluctant escort he hired no doubt.

matty p

20 May 2009, 02:51

likka

20 May 2009, 17:26

Finally the most deserving person wins without completely stuffing up the final tribal council. JT was head and shoulders above everyone else this season, and the fact he wasn't targeted post merge just shows that his social skills were every bit as good as his strategic and physical prowess. Stephan did his best in the tribal council but JT is a smart cookie and was never really in danger.

As someone who does a lot of presenting for a living I find it painful to watch some final tribal councils as people I thing should win completely **** it up. Watching Amanda lose twice in a row in China and Micronesia was excruciating as she butchered answer after answer. I'm convinced that if I was in her place she would be at least a million dollars richer today. Both times she played nearly the perfect game, but was utterly incapable of articulating this to either jury.

Coach really has got to be the biggest wanker ever to be on Survivor. His final trip to exile island followed by his pathetic collapse at the end of the immunity challenge was the stuff of delusional people in mental institutions. Telling Jeff that medical couldn't look at his back cos they would have to pull him from the game was laughable. His entire life is based upon lies and the bogus lie detector test fooled nobody. The kind of person I despise most in this world is a self righteous phony.

For those who wish for Survivor to be in an extreme cold climate, it would never work. On top of logistical nightmares producing it, it is much more difficult to survive in an extremely cold climate with only the clothes on your back, thus much more dangerous for competitors. Hypothermia and frostbite would be real issues, lack of food would accelerate weight loss, chest infections would be more likely with very cold air and a weak immune system, and creating and maintaining fire is much more difficult.

Also if it is very cold then people won't wander far from camp, thus the social and strategic aspect of the game would be greatly diminished IMO.

Ultimately it is the quality of the casting and richness of the social game that makes Survivor, not the locations. Get the right mix of people, give them a chance of surviving in an isolated wilderness, and the environment to be able to wander off in small groups and it doesn't matter where it is staged.

For those who have not seen Gabon you are not missing much. One of the most disappointing seasons in a long time. The location was very monotonous, the competitors overly stupid and poorly cast.

Zarrix

20 May 2009, 19:11

For those who wish for Survivor to be in an extreme cold climate, it would never work. On top of logistical nightmares producing it, it is much more difficult to survive in an extremely cold climate with only the clothes on your back, thus much more dangerous for competitors. Hypothermia and frostbite would be real issues, lack of food would accelerate weight loss, chest infections would be more likely with very cold air and a weak immune system, and creating and maintaining fire is much more difficult.

Also if it is very cold then people won't wander far from camp, thus the social and strategic aspect of the game would be greatly diminished IMO.
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As I said before, of course there would have to be additional assistance given to the players, and who says it has to be an extremely cold climate? Just something a little different from the tropical island of bushy desert would be a nice, albeit not essential change!

Faithful Hawk

21 May 2009, 09:44

Really enjoyed this season and thought JT was the most worthy winner of any season. Even though Coach was a raving lunatic he is the main reason that this season was so great.

On a side note my friends cousin has been forced to move her Wedding she is having in Samo in September, because the Survivor Juggernaut has taken over the hotel she had already booked and paid for:thumbsd:.