View Full Version : Things that will be missing from this Ashes series
courtjester
20 Jan 2009, 07:04
Changing dynamics in the side means there'll be stuff we'll miss
Like Harmison repeatedly smacking Langer in the helmet.
PumpyChowdown
20 Jan 2009, 09:42
Warne, Gilchrist, Hayden, McGrath.
Nel Mangle
20 Jan 2009, 09:52
Warne, Gilchrist, Hayden, McGrath.
damn ,go from facing mcgrath ,warne (backed up by the likes of gillespie).
To facing hauritz and siddle (backed up by mitch johnson )
Something tells me this is a good chance of a win..
the_interloper
20 Jan 2009, 11:59
A Shane Warne sex scandal in News Of the World! (There still may be, it just won't affect the cricket side!:D)
stmookeyj
20 Jan 2009, 13:40
Richie Benaud in the com box.
crazyman27
20 Jan 2009, 15:21
A Dizzy Gillespie mullet and comments like 'Where's ya caravan?' from the Poms.
Warne, Gilchrist, Hayden, McGrath.
The Poms will be missing Hayden too.
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
20 Jan 2009, 16:21
I wonder if the English will stoop as low to fabricate and leak rumours to the press about Australian players. Like last time when they made up the rumour about Hayden swearing at a young boy as he came on to the ground to field in a one day game. The players would enter the field through a guard of honour consisting of young children. The game in question was the one when Simon Jones hurled a ball at Hayden from point blank rage so it was obvious it was an attempt to stir Hayden up. Thats fine i guess if you want to play that way. But spreading a rumour that was untrue and proven to be is just low, and quite frankly, it was poetic justice England were smashed 5 - 0 a year later.
Im all for gamesmanship and what not, but England over stepped the mark there.
davey_magik
20 Jan 2009, 16:40
Can't wait to be honest.
Should be a very close series.
Changing dynamics in the side means there'll be stuff we'll miss
Like Harmison repeatedly smacking Langer in the helmet.
Harmison bowling the first ball of the series to first slip...
No wait that can still happen :D
damochandler
20 Jan 2009, 18:01
billy bowden and probably bucknor. we wont be missing australia thump the poms that is for sure
The Reaper
20 Jan 2009, 18:47
billy bowden and probably bucknor. we wont be missing australia thump the poms that is for sure
doubt it
we will do very well to win 2 tests
Cooldude
20 Jan 2009, 19:11
A voice recording of Michael Bevan's night with an overexubrent young woman not played behind the stumps by the wicketkeeper
mattf83
20 Jan 2009, 19:32
A voice recording of Michael Bevan's night with an overexubrent young woman not played behind the stumps by the wicketkeeper
Please explain??
damochandler
20 Jan 2009, 19:38
doubt it
we will do very well to win 2 tests
the poms will struggle to win 2 sessions in the series. the poms arent much chop and we are better than them easily
Nel Mangle
20 Jan 2009, 21:13
the poms will struggle to win 2 sessions in the series. the poms arent much chop and we are better than them easily
Your bowling lineup is powder puff now ,cobber.
And the batting?? aside from Ponting and Hussey its a pedestrian lineup.
scooterb
20 Jan 2009, 21:24
Your bowling lineup is powder puff now ,cobber.
And the batting?? aside from Ponting and Hussey its a pedestrian lineup.
Clarke? Katich? Haddin?
doggiesin08
20 Jan 2009, 21:29
Harmison bowling the first ball of the series to first slip...
No wait that can still happen :D
I thought Freddie fielded it at 2nd slip?
Blue Dimension
20 Jan 2009, 21:32
Your bowling lineup is powder puff now ,cobber.
And the batting?? aside from Ponting and Hussey its a pedestrian lineup.
This coming from the supporter of a team of whom consists of Ian Bell and Paul Collingwood as middle order batsman in the test lineup!
Talk it up, because then it makes it even sweeter when we do actually slaughter you.
damochandler
20 Jan 2009, 22:12
Your bowling lineup is powder puff now ,cobber.
And the batting?? aside from Ponting and Hussey its a pedestrian lineup.
what do the poms have. harmison, who knows if his head will turn up. flintoff injury prown and he has 1 good year. anderson pfffft. sidebottom who is really their onl y decent bowler. monty, he wont be playing test cricket when the ashes comes around, i doub he would be in the squad
their batting lineup. bell hopeless. kp, to reliant on him and when he doesnt get runs they are stuffed. collingwood. he is lucky to still be in the side. strauss good player. cook average player at best.
australia to win easy
The Reaper
20 Jan 2009, 22:34
what do the poms have. harmison, who knows if his head will turn up. flintoff injury prown and he has 1 good year. anderson pfffft. sidebottom who is really their onl y decent bowler. monty, he wont be playing test cricket when the ashes comes around, i doub he would be in the squad
their batting lineup. bell hopeless. kp, to reliant on him and when he doesnt get runs they are stuffed. collingwood. he is lucky to still be in the side. strauss good player. cook average player at best.
australia to win easy
You could argue the same about Australia
Jaques= injured
katich= crap in england
ponting= completely dependent on him
hussey = pathetic against south africa
clarke= crap in england
whoever our number 6 is?
haddin = one trick pony
johnson = not good enough to bowl with new ball
siddle = doesn't do anything
hauritz = club bowler
bollinger = never done anything
the series will be very even
neither side are at their strongest
England are most likely more stable a team then us and have home ground advantage.
If Siddebottom is fit he will dominate.
and Cook is a bloody gun
damochandler
20 Jan 2009, 22:40
You could argue the same about Australia
Jaques= injured
katich= crap in england
ponting= completely dependent on him
hussey = pathetic against south africa
clarke= crap in england
whoever our number 6 is?
haddin = one trick pony
johnson = not good enough to bowl with new ball
siddle = doesn't do anything
hauritz = club bowler
bollinger = never done anything
the series will be very even
neither side are at their strongest
England are most likely more stable a team then us and have home ground advantage.
If Siddebottom is fit he will dominate.
and Cook is a bloody gun
if clark is fit and god hope so. he will be a certain and he will be at his best in england. thats just my opinion
The Sim Dog
20 Jan 2009, 23:53
Your bowling lineup is powder puff now ,cobber.
And the batting?? aside from Ponting and Hussey its a pedestrian lineup.
Coming from an England supporter. I hope that was meant to be funny, because it's pretty hilarious. Australia will face some tough times in the future but would appear to have England's measure at least.
Nel Mangle
21 Jan 2009, 01:25
Clarke? Katich? Haddin?
Clarke is alright.
He can put up the numbers and bowl abit.
Nel Mangle
21 Jan 2009, 01:30
This coming from the supporter of a team of whom consists of Ian Bell and Paul Collingwood as middle order batsman in the test lineup!
Talk it up, because then it makes it even sweeter when we do actually slaughter you.
I dont think your lineup will slaughter us.
The gulf between playing mcgrath/warne/lee/gillespie compared with siddle/hauritz/johnson/lee is so huge I cant even compare them.
The chances of our lineup being slaughtered by siddle and hauritz are slim.
The series will be tight and not a slaughter.
Nel Mangle
21 Jan 2009, 01:34
Coming from an England supporter. I hope that was meant to be funny, because it's pretty hilarious. Australia will face some tough times in the future but would appear to have England's measure at least.
The old lineup had our measure.
But the current lineup? I think not ,matey.
This isnt like the days when australia had warne/mcgath and we had allan iggelsden and peter such.
This coming from the supporter of a team of whom consists of Ian Bell and Paul Collingwood as middle order batsman in the test lineup!
Talk it up, because then it makes it even sweeter when we do actually slaughter you.
Just because that is the case doesn't mean I agree.
Katich in 2007 was only outscored by Ramprakash, he's used to English wickets, he's played here for years.
The Reaper
21 Jan 2009, 10:04
if clark is fit and god hope so. he will be a certain and he will be at his best in england. thats just my opinion
fails to rebut the point
which is that you can not assume that all your players will play to their top potential and ability while the opposition all play horribly
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
21 Jan 2009, 11:35
I think a lot of people here are forgetting a crucial element.
Stuart Clarke.
I still dont think people realised how big a blow losing Stuart Clarke before the home South African series actually was? From that moment i doubted our ability to win the series and privately, SA had based a lot of there preparations around Stuart Clarke leading the attack, his absence was a massive plus for them, you never hope for injuries but SA would privately have been elated in a sense.
I really think Michael Clarke is going to raise a cog this year. His been very good but i think his going to enter the phase of being regarded as one of the best batsmen in the world after this year. He was leading run scorer against the best attack in the world and is in great form. His been in the team for some time now and you can see that his really matured. OFten looking back over the careers of batsmen when they retire you see a distinct point when you think, yep, in that period they went from a very good batsmen to an elite one. Often this period is correlated with certain things in the players life, off field issues, extra responsibility on the field, etc.
Looking over Ricky Pontings career with the bat and one innings sticks in my mind, that great 100 he got agaisnt SA in early 2002 leading us home chasing 300. It was a great game of cricket against a very capable attack and from that moment he just went up a cog in his batting. Blazing hundreds at will in Sharjah against Pakistan, in the following Ashes series and then onto the WC and the West Indies. In that period many regarded Ponting as a very good batsmen, but few classed him as elite, after that period he was regarded as the best batsmen in the world.
I can see a few parallels here with Michael Clarke and Ricky Ponting during that period.
People are all saying the Ashes are coming, but the away SA series will be tougher. The opposition is clearly better then Engladn in that regard so if we can do well there then i think we will be set up nicely for the Ashes. England have been an ordinary outfit for the best part of 20 years baring the odd success.
England have had a shocking start to the year and often these things are a sign of things to come. I wouldnt bet much on ENgland beating the WI to be honest, i would not be surprised at all if WI really push England and even beat them in the Carribean.
Australia has a lot of firepower to come back into the side. Stuart Clarke, Andrew Symonds, Shane Watson.
Bryce McGain could also play a pivotal role that is being forgotten. This guy was going to be our main spinner in India and has slipped from the public eye.
Im not worried about the Ashes, i am worried about the return SA series, after that we will have a better idea about the Ashes.
Jaques= injured
katich= crap in england
ponting= completely dependent on him
hussey = pathetic against south africa
clarke= crap in england
whoever our number 6 is?
haddin = one trick pony
johnson = not good enough to bowl with new ball
siddle = doesn't do anything
hauritz = club bowler
bollinger = never done anything
and Cook is a bloody gun
that was only coz the poms were gettin the ball to go irish with mints
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
21 Jan 2009, 16:21
Once again, SA will offer far more resistance and a threat at home then England will in the Ashes of 2009. SA are simply are better outfit across the board.
We have a selection of bowlers to come back into our line up such as Stuart Clarke. Bryce McGain is all but fit and ready to start playing cricket again, and you'd imagine if all goes well, he'd be picked for SA and will play there. We have Johnson, Siddle, Hilfenhaus and Lee as bowlers. Not to mention Shaun Tait and Brett Lee to come back as well as Shane Watson.
If we win in South Africa one would have to say we are primed to retain the Ashes. England have had a shocking start to the year, if they lose in the West Indies or even draw, then they will be in turmoil. For what its worth, the West Indies at home are no pushovers, as we saw last year. They are more then capable of matching England at home and batsmen like Chris Gayle, Sarwan and Chanderpaul are world class. I can see all 3 having an all you can eat dine in on the England attack.
I would not be surprised at all if the West Indies get up and win.
People should stop worrying about the Ashes, SA are the sterner test.
Lenny29
21 Jan 2009, 16:26
How many ****ing years does he have to play before people realise there's no E in Stuart Clark? :rolleyes:
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
21 Jan 2009, 16:29
Calm down love.
Adelaide Hawk
21 Jan 2009, 16:51
How many ****ing years does he have to play before people realise there's no E in Stuart Clark? :rolleyes:
Have people been spelling Stuart with an "e" again?
Not to mention Shaun Tait and Brett Lee to come back as well as Shane Watson.
If Brett Lee plays in the Ashes we are as good as dead. Was ****ing terrible for us this summer, and he's NEVER bowled well in England.
Nel Mangle
22 Jan 2009, 21:06
If Brett Lee plays in the Ashes we are as good as dead. Was ****ing terrible for us this summer, and he's NEVER bowled well in England.
He was dangerous in tandem with McGrath. There were times in the 2005 series when they were bowling in tandem and I thought "damn this is a hard test for the batters "
He did well in 2005 IMO.
Tait on the other hand was a joke. After he was allover the papers saying how he liked to hurt batsmen. Then in the final test he was on the verge of tears when the crowd got on his back.
eagles06
23 Jan 2009, 19:50
Does anyone know whether the ashes will be broadcast on fta or foxtel here?
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
23 Jan 2009, 19:54
SBS i think.
I cant imagine Foxsports doing it as this time the game will be covered by Sky rather then Sky and Ch 4.
The Reaper
23 Jan 2009, 21:08
He was dangerous in tandem with McGrath. There were times in the 2005 series when they were bowling in tandem and I thought "damn this is a hard test for the batters "
He did well in 2005 IMO.
average of 40 is good?
stmookeyj
31 Jan 2009, 07:32
Time to add another missing item from this year's series...BBC TMS scorer Bill Frindall who has died.
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/england/content/current/story/388423.html
XFactor1979
31 Jan 2009, 09:10
bill frindall's statistics on test match special
EDIT beat me to it :(
XFactor1979
31 Jan 2009, 09:18
i really wished i was over there in england for their upcoming summer of cricket, especially given how many antipods are over there
you guys have no idea how much it is/was over there!
ok, it rains a lot, but boy when the sun comes out, nothing compares to it!
i was over there in the summer when the windies and india went over there, and there was plenty of merry to be had over there
Things that will be missing from the Ashes?
Quality Bowling.
I wonder if the English will stoop as low to fabricate and leak rumours to the press about Australian players. Like last time when they made up the rumour about Hayden swearing at a young boy as he came on to the ground to field in a one day game. The players would enter the field through a guard of honour consisting of young children. The game in question was the one when Simon Jones hurled a ball at Hayden from point blank rage so it was obvious it was an attempt to stir Hayden up. Thats fine i guess if you want to play that way. But spreading a rumour that was untrue and proven to be is just low, and quite frankly, it was poetic justice England were smashed 5 - 0 a year later.
Im all for gamesmanship and what not, but England over stepped the mark there.
Did it make you cry into your tea .:rolleyes:I would have said beer but Im not sure how old you are
Hayden got his comuppence and it was long deserved for such a detestable character
Again its funny how its part of the game when Aus do things,yet when others do it ,its a step to far .Everyone does it get on with it
I think this will the series where the team that is least bad will take home the urn. I don't see a lot of quality cricket being played here, both teams atm are mediocre. It will be a far cry from the 2005 series, where two great teams, one actual great team, another which was simply inspired fought it out.
So Quality Cricket most likely, but if the matches are tight, then I guess that isn't so bad Quality Cricket =/= Closely Thought Cricket.
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
1 Feb 2009, 12:35
Did it make you cry into your tea .:rolleyes:I would have said beer but Im not sure how old you are
Hayden got his comuppence and it was long deserved for such a detestable character
Again its funny how its part of the game when Aus do things,yet when others do it ,its a step to far .Everyone does it get on with it
Making up rumours and then spreading them is not "part of the game" love.
Nel Mangle
2 Feb 2009, 00:29
Making up rumours and then spreading them is not "part of the game" love.
Hayden has a reputation for being a **** (to put it mildly).
When the players passed through the "guard of honour" there werent any england players near them. Its a figment of your imagination that a "leak" came from inside the england camp.
Speaking of "press leaks".
i remember when John Buchanan used to "accidentily" slip notes under journalists doors making disparaging remarks about the opposition. Just to mock teams who were already beaten. Dont bother talking "classy behaviour" or "stooping low" .
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
2 Feb 2009, 01:54
I read it in an article written by a respected English journo that most believed England had started the rumour.