3rd ODI: Australia v South Africa @ Sydney (Fri D/N)

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Sydney Cricket Ground
2:15pm Friday January 23

Not the most convincing of results in either game so far, but it's all square heading into game 3 at the SCG. Australia have dumped both Ryan Harris and Ben Hilfenhaus, bringing in Mitchell Johnson and Shaun Tait and/or Nathan Hauritz. If the and/or is an and, James Hopes or Cameron White will bring the omissions to three.

If I keep saying Steyn will be rested it surely has to happen eventually. What doesn't have to happen is the inclusion of one of the left armers. The pressure is building on Herschelle Gibbs but he'll probably hold off van Jaarsveld for the weekend at least, though giving McKenzie time to build an innings must be something that's crossed the selectors' minds.

Australia XII:
Shaun Marsh
David Warner
*Ricky Ponting
Michael Hussey
David Hussey
Cameron White
+Brad Haddin
James Hopes
Nathan Hauritz
Mitchell Johnson
Nathan Bracken
Shaun Tait
In:
Nathan Hauritz
Mitchell Johnson
Shaun Tait
Out:
Ryan Harris (dropped)
Ben Hilfenhaus (dropped)

South Africa XV:
Herschelle Gibbs
Hashim Amla
Jacques Kallis
AB de Villiers
JP Duminy
Neil McKenzie
+Mark Boucher
Vaughn van Jaarsveld
Albie Morkel
*Johan Botha
Morne Morkel
Wayne Parnell (ODI debut)
Dale Steyn
Makhaya Ntini
Lonwabo Tsotsobe (ODI debut)
In:
Vaughn van Jaarsveld
Wayne Parnell
Morne Morkel
Lonwabo Tsotsobe

Umpires:
Ian Gould (England)
Rod Tucker (New South Wales)
Bruce Oxenford (3rd, Queensland)

Recent History:
April 25, 2007 @ St Lucia
Australia won by 7 wickets
March 24, 2007 @ St Kitts
Australia won by 83 runs
2005-06 in South Africa
South Africa won 3-2
2005-06 in Australia
Australia 14 points, South Africa 4 (4 games)
2001-02 in South Africa
Australia won 5-1 with 1 tie
2001-02 in Australia
Australia 13 points, South Africa 4 (4 games)

Weather:
Shower or thunderstorm or two, 30 degrees

Session Times
First innings: 2:15-5:45pm
Second innings: 6:30-10pm

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[ahhhhhh]

Terrible decision dropping Hilf, the selectors need to get a ****ing clue

[damochandler]

batting power plays are the key again in this game. australia have to put together a better power play than last game. the scg is usualy a flat batters track in odi's and to be honest i wouldnt be suprised if the team that bats first. puts more the 350 on the board.

australia for mine with mitch back in

[demon21]

Geez Hilf is a bit unlucky leading wicket taker this series and he misses out. I know that he has gone for a few runs but he has bowled very well its just that he has struggled with the power play late in the game.

[Cruiser23]

*shakes head*

Joke

[crazyman27]

I thought the batting powerplay was meant to 'spice up' the middle overs but I think unless they use it straight after the first 10 overs (when the bowling team is likely to use theirs) it probably wont occur until after 40 overs. Mainly because you can take more risks as you've only got 10 overs left to bat. As we saw in the last match the powerplay can have the wrong effect for the batting side as they go on the attack which results in the loss of quick wickets.

[Blue Dimension]

Terrible decision dropping Hilf, the selectors need to get a ****ing clue

Agree completely. It's beyond the joke now - he's been taking wickets and swinging the ball early, ffs what does he have to do?

SA to win this game i reckon.

[Defina18]

Why are Australia playing Hauritz? Play Hilfenaus

[wotdoiput]

As has already been said dropping Hilf is a deadset joke. He would benefit from being the third quick with Mitch coming back and perhaps not having to bowl at the death. Laughable.

[LIONS then DAYLIGHT]

You guys do realise that they are rotating the fast bowlers?

[Blue Dimension]

You guys do realise that they are rotating the fast bowlers?

Why would they need to rotate Hilfenhaus when he doesn't need a rest - as opposed to Johnson, or a Lee if he was playing?

[Romeo]

Hilfenhaus is unlucky but the others are better one day bowlers.

I'm tipping us to win quite easily. They had their best chance to win another one but ****ed up the chase. Their ODI teams looks inferior to their test one. Ours is in transition but has better quality.

[Blue Dimension]

Hilfenhaus is unlucky but the others are better one day bowlers.

I'm tipping us to win quite easily. They had their best chance to win another one but ****ed up the chase. Their ODI teams looks inferior to their test one. Ours is in transition but has better quality.

Hauritz and Hopes are better?

I beg to differ.

[DIG]

They're rotating the bowlers, it's no big deal.

Plus throughout the series they've been playing the all-rounder Hopes as a 4th bowling option instead of having a massive tail. Although it could be argued MJ could play at #8.

I reckon it's a good chance to look at Hauritz, how will we ever know if he can cut it in ODIs if we don't play him - and under lights at the SCG is as good a place as any.

[DIG]

I thought the batting powerplay was meant to 'spice up' the middle overs but I think unless they use it straight after the first 10 overs (when the bowling team is likely to use theirs) it probably wont occur until after 40 overs. Mainly because you can take more risks as you've only got 10 overs left to bat. As we saw in the last match the powerplay can have the wrong effect for the batting side as they go on the attack which results in the loss of quick wickets.
The batting team should have to use their powerplay between overs 20 and 40 only.

[saj_21]

Agree completely. It's beyond the joke now - he's been taking wickets and swinging the ball early, ffs what does he have to do?

SA to win this game i reckon.

Well not give away runs at the death to start with.

Hauritz and Hopes are better?

I beg to differ.

Australia are going to play an all rounder, so realistically were always going to go into one dayers with 3 specialist quicks, maybe a spinner (pretty rare these days) an all rounder (hopes/watson) and then get overs from white/d.hussey/clarke.

Hilfy is a better bowler than hopes or hauritz bat there not competing for the same spots. Tait, Johnson, Bracken are ahead of Hilfy whose next in line.

I would like to see the team as follows:
Marsh
Warner
Ponting
m.Hussey
d.Hussey
Haddin
Hopes
Johnson
Huaritz
Bracken
Tait
12th man White

Giving us 5 specialist bowlers. As i believe d.Hussey is not the 5th bowling option, white if not bowled is not providing enough at 6, haddin is being wasted, Johnson and Hauritz can add some batting to the side.

[CAS79]

I love the Hilf but sadly his death bowling was a concern.

However his bowling early and through the middle was pretty good and I'm sure he will be back. Quite possibly in Adelaide where Bracken might get the game off.

[TassieSaint]

I get that they're rotating bowlers, hence Hilf was never gonna play no matter how he performed in Hobart.

But why do they feel the need to? He's not carrying any injuries and is extremely fit, why do they feel the need to have this bowler rotation thing in place?

[Jimthegreat]

I love the Hilf but sadly his death bowling was a concern.

However his bowling early and through the middle was pretty good and I'm sure he will be back. Quite possibly in Adelaide where Bracken might get the game off. The key is not to bowl him at the death. He struggled getting the yorker right at the death in both games until the last over last week. He'd only go for between 30-40 otherwise and take wickets if bowled at other times. He has everything I like as a quick. Maybe they're rotating too given there's 10 one-dayer's including NZ.

Suppose being Sydney they went for a spin option. I can see that too.

[themuddy#3]

Terrible decision dropping Hilf, the selectors need to get a ****ing clue
Just the usual rotations.

tait didnt deserve to be dropped.

[themuddy#3]

I love the Hilf but sadly his death bowling was a concern.

However his bowling early and through the middle was pretty good and I'm sure he will be back. Quite possibly in Adelaide where Bracken might get the game off.
True. Good post:thumbsu:

[flash2]

Hilfenhaus' bowling at the death wasn't that bad. He went for 15 in the third last over but then bowled very well the last over for us.

I hope he goes to South Africa for the tests.

[worsfold]

Ricky has won the toss and we will bat.

[OzBomber]

Hauritz is playing his first ODI in nearly Six Years. (http://content-www.cricinfo.com/australia/content/player/5593.html)

[aussie1st]

Hauritz in for White, great move now our bowling looks a lot better and the batting hasn't lost much probably added with the strength of the lower order.

[TimeIsRunningOut]

Hauritz in for White, great move now our bowling looks a lot better and the batting hasn't lost much probably added with the strength of the lower order.

Yep - smart decision from the selectors for once.

[High Ryder]

Hauritz in for White, great move now our bowling looks a lot better and the batting hasn't lost much probably added with the strength of the lower order.
Are you kidding???


Hopes very lucky...


Hauritz shouldn't even be in the squad, absolute hack.

[Romeo]

Excellent toss to win, I think that could prove decisive plus we've shored up our pace and our attack looks much superior to some of their pie chuckers.

Time for Warner to make a big score on a perfect pitch in hot conditions which will test the bowlers.

[Dez!]

Does that mean White will be released to play for Victoria tomorrow? He's already in NSW and the game is at ANZ stadium.

Surely they have to let him?

[Gridlock'd]

Disapointing to see Hilf dropped, but hopefully as others have said they are rotating the bowlers and Bracken or Hauritz will miss the next game, and Hilf will come back in.

Otherwise. :mad: What the hell would he have to do to keep his place in the side?

[HBF]

Ricky has won the toss and we will bat.

Given that South Africa prefer to chase, they could just about do away with the toss for the remainder of the series.

[HBF]

......and Tony Greig goes "nuts" after the first ball. :rolleyes:

[HBF]

Take that Steyn!
Shot Warner. :thumbsu:

[kenrosewall]

Anyone able to tell me what channel its on on Sopcast?

[chaddles]

God I really hope Warner gets a few today - just has to keep his head and not rush into silly shots like his last 2 outings, at least until he gets into his innings a bit. Would love to see him knock up a 50.

[OzBomber]

Anyone able to tell me what channel its on on Sopcast?You don't need Sopcast (http://live.spvod.com/p2p.jsp?film2=7217&film1=7217&PL_n=1&a5=0&vs=AustraliaVSSouth%20Africa&typ=%B0%E5%C7%F2&sp=3).

[Kahuna]

Warner is a bit of a cross-bat slogger but still aslong as his making runs.

[HBF]

Shot!
Reminds me of how me and my brother played in the backyard.

[OzBomber]

Some nice shots, but that 1st 4 this over could've been creamed through the covers for 4.

Ahh well, don't get too carried away David.

[Dez!]

Cop that Dale Steyn.

Beautiful pull shot for 6 followed up by a glorious cover drive for 4.

Steyn can thank Duminy for saving him another 4.

[Blues_Man]

lol at stain getting smacked around and carrying on like a knob .

[rdhopkins2]

C'mon Warner! Let's have a day out! Great start so far.

[aussie1st]

Lol so much for the theory of bowling wide to him cause he can't play in the off side.

[Adrian Shelton]

Oooo dear this could be fun to watch!!!

[chaddles]

I love how he is just pushing the singles too, turning the strike over beautifully.

[Cruiser23]

Lol so much for the theory of bowling wide to him cause he can't play in the off side.

Who came up with that theory? You just needed to watch some of his NSW innings' to realise he isn't just a leg side player.

[Paddy_Mac]

Why do people boo when the ball just stays in the boundary? Never really got that.

[Jimthegreat]

Why do people boo when the ball just stays in the boundary? Never really got that.It's only "fun" booing because they want to see Warner hit a 4.

[royboy2]

lol at stain getting smacked around and carrying on like a knob .

"When in Rome"

[aussie1st]

Who came up with that theory? You just needed to watch some of his NSW innings' to realise he isn't just a leg side player.

Some guys in the media and a few members on here that have only seen his T20 game I guess. They didn't so much say bowl wide to him but rather he could only hit leg side.

[Cruiser23]

Keep bowling it out there Ntini, it's working.

[OzBomber]

Thing is, he looks no where like he did at Melbourne. He's not middling most of his shots. I reckon he could be hitting them much better.

But it's still great to watch. :)

[aussie1st]

Which is scary for SA cause once he times those shots in the off side look out.

Edit: A mishit pull shot goes for 4, who needs timing lol

[The Sim Dog]

Good grief this bloke is exciting. In a Gilchrist sort of way, exactly what we needed right now. Will be bringing people through the gates anyway.

[Paddy_Mac]

Thing is, he looks no where like he did at Melbourne. He's not middling most of his shots. I reckon he could be hitting them much better.

But it's still great to watch. :)
You don't have to middle them to make runs on this ground. You swing hard you'll get runs no matter where you hit it on the bat.

[Cruiser23]

Commentators have no idea about Warner, i'm sure they have never seen him play other than in the 20/20s. Have 5 fielders on the legs side for him? Give me a ****en break.

[XFactor1979]

this match is headed for a wash out

mark my words!

it is so hot and humid out there is no way we arent getting under an intense 3 hour thunderstorm by 6 oclock this evening

speaking of the heat, im off to the beach right now

catch you all in a bit folks

[aussie1st]

Well Richie said Warner has never played for NSW so go figure. The fans have had their chance to watch him in both FRC and T20.

[kenrosewall]

You don't need Sopcast (http://live.spvod.com/p2p.jsp?film2=7217&film1=7217&PL_n=1&a5=0&vs=AustraliaVSSouth%20Africa&typ=%B0%E5%C7%F2&sp=3).

Thanks for the link to Asian p0rn Sean, but I'm not sure how that helps me watch the cricket???

[Cruiser23]

Thanks for the link to Asian p0rn Sean, but I'm not sure how that helps me watch the cricket???

Try this

http://nick4all3.freehostia.com/index.html

[damochandler]

good start by the wiz kid. if he stays in. haydens record is in trouble. it's a flat track and the aussies should get 350 easy

[kaysee]

Now if only Marsh can stop playing like his old man and more like Boony we would be bring up the 100 about now. :D

[OzBomber]

Thanks for the link to Asian p0rn Sean, but I'm not sure how that helps me watch the cricket???You need to download the software then watch it in IE.

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/561922-post1.html

Geez, it's like the kid's about to get a century. They're going nuts in the commentary box.

[bigpapagman]

You need to download the software then watch it in IE.

http://www.myp2pforum.eu/561922-post1.html

Geez, it's like the kid's about to get a century. They're going nuts in the commentary box.


he is.

[Romeo]

Warner is either totally on or totally off.

[aussie1st]

Great 50 by Warner, he can only improve. Just a shame Marsh isn't rotating the strike or hitting his own boundaries.

[bigpapagman]

yeah he is bogging down a little isn't he.

[Team Mo']

Why is Marsh struggling?

[wotdoiput]

Great start by Warner.

Listening to it on the ABC radio, god Roebuck makes me wanna kill myslef, idiot doesnt even know the rules.

[Cruiser23]

Warner goes bang........again

[Team Mo']

WOW Warner is hitting the ball cleanly now.

[Cousin Jed]

Pick him for the ashes!!!11oneeleven!!!!

[aussie1st]

Morkel first bowler to trouble Warner today.

[ptrg]

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnNO BALL!!

[Carn the Coasters]

Batting powerplay now that Botha was on. Now he is taking himself off.

[ptrg]

haha, cheat!! he was coming on then took himself off!!

[Team Mo']

Warner should open for the test team IMHO.

[Team Mo']

Closer then I thought...

[Cruiser23]

Warner should open for the test team IMHO.

Slow down my friend, he hasn't even played a 4 day match yet for NSW.

[VoR]

Warner should open for the test team IMHO.
Settle down, the bloke hasn't even played a FC game yet and you want him in the ****ing Test team :confused:

[kaysee]

Following on cricinfo so can't see him actually bat... IMO if he can do this 35%-50% of the time in ODI I would be happy.

A reputation for WHAM BAM quick starts... will have other teams psyched out about bowling to him.

Only concern is how he will fare on less friendly/bouncy wickets like in England and sub-continent.

Cheers

[Carn the Coasters]

Very interesting decision to take the powerplay so early, but i think its a good one as long as Warner stays in.

If we keep wickets in hand we should be able to accelerate the scoring later in the inning anyway, so might as well keep going now.

Plus we waste Steyn's overs and can go for it while the ball is still reasonably hard.

[chaddles]

Good decision to take the power play with Warner and Marsh both settled in - both very good strikers of the ball.

Good on Warner too, should get a few critics off his back - hopefully he can ton up now.

Think the test team is still quite a few years down the track for him - could become very important to the side for the next decade, him and Marsh might become a very powerful opening combination.

[royboy2]

nnnnnnnnnnnnnnnNO BALL!!

Brett Lee's not playing

[ptrg]

Very good decision to take the powerplay now, when batting first..

Their best bowler Steyn, having just completed 3 or 4 overs, was forced to come back on again, for potentially three more.. Instead of "helping them" by calling a powerplan at end of innings when he normally bowls, we'vw forced their hand, and now it will have to be a loose nitini or botha bowling at the death.. Good forward thinking to help out batsmen later on!

[ptrg]

Brett Lee's not playing

i agree, his front foot no-balls can get frustrating... I wonder if CA can petition ICC to allow for a 15cm "allowance" on these too...


... and if they don't, we'll call them racists for not changing the rules for a bollywood cricketer..

[damochandler]

shame warner is gone now. 100 gone begging there that is for sure. great knock and a great start for ponting and co to go on with

[VoR]

Mr Hype is out...

[ptrg]

unrelated to cricket, but requires urgent attention!

Old naked guy has just run on to court 3 at the aus open.. he's running in circles!!

[royboy2]

Yes, **** off!! Warner

[damochandler]

ponting has come in and started where he left off just about in hobart. he is back to his best and thats a good thing

[abs_of_STEELE]

Nice over.

[ptrg]

**** off!!

????

[royboy2]

The Vic's should get Duminy to play for them tomorrow

[Romeo]

Warner starred. Suffer Steyn.

Suffer Mickey Arthur too.

[Spikey]

Gun keeping that.

[Santana]

Way to go, Marsh.

[rdhopkins2]

Nice stumping from Boucher gets Marsh.

[Cruiser23]

The Martian gone for 43, great keeping by Boucher.

[red+black]

Good, Marsh is out.

He was slowing down the run rate just like his old man used to.