oh_my_hat
7 Nov 2002, 21:31
...from Have Your Say on the BBC website
I love it!!!
England were always in for a torrid time against the might of Australia, but even the most pessimistic of cricket fans would have struggled to predict such an abysmal start.
A combination of excellent batting, poor bowling and woeful fielding helped Australia reach 364-2 at stumps, as Hussain's decision to put them into bat spectacularly backfired.
To make matters worse, Jones suffered a serious knee injury that will put him out of the game for at least six months, and leaves England's already depleted bowling attack looking even thinner.
Can it get any worse for England? And what hope do they have for the rest of the series?
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I must apologise on behalf of my compatriots. We may have the best cricket team, but we also have the must smug and arrogant of fans. Australia's position was the result of hard work - Border, Taylor and Waugh - not big headedness.
As for England, they may well bat better but how are their crocked bowling outfit going to bowl Australia out now? When oh when will teams stop pushing 80% fit players back into international cricket?
Chris, Australia
I wish the England team would stay at home. It seems their only purpose in life is to embarrass this country and give the terminally insecure Aussies something to bash us with. Please, we're better than that - let's stick to what we are good at and let the Aussies have the few crumbs of comfort they get from sport and Kylie Minogue.
Keith, UK
To put it bluntly, England have no chance whatsoever! To start with, man for man (even when fully fit) we are a lot weaker than the Aussies, with only two of our batsman averaging above 40 in Test cricket! The fielding was laughable, and of the bowling only Hoggard and Jones (before his injury) ever looked threatening.
Of all Hussain's many tactical blunders, this is by far the worst - he should consider his position
Jeremy Griffiths, Manchester, UK
Unless things go for Caddick, the man just gives up. Sometimes he looks like he's just bowling like a fairy - we don't need players like that! Finally, what were the selectors thinking when they called up Tudor? They must have been drunk - the guy is an average county bowler, and I'll give him two matches before he begins to moan about his shins!
Adrian, UK
I am incensed that all the good work and progress we have made has been thrown away. What a stupid and gutless decision to let the Aussies bat in perfect conditions on a flat track. It says to the Aussies that we are scared of their bowlers and don't back our batsmen.
It's handed the Australian team a huge advantage (like they didn't already have one!) and we will be defeated heavily. Of all Hussain's many tactical blunders, this is by far the worst - he should consider his position.
Jeremy Griffiths, Manchester, UK
Of course Australia are going to win. I am hoping that England might be able to put up a bit of fight for a couple of Tests - let's go down 5-0 having at least made a bit of an effort and having had a few sessions to cheer through.
Australia are so smug and ungracious in victory that they are fast becoming the Man Utd of the sporting world. They are the team everyone else wants to see beaten, regardless of the opposition.
Vicky Wiseman, England
It's no good banging on about the Aussies on this site - the English would do just the same if we we're in the same position. Every Ashes series, the press bring up 1981, and as great as it was, it's wearing a tad thin now.
I feel embarrassed to call myself English after that shameful day
Simon, England
I take it Mr Botham is over in Aus in some capacity or another - perhaps someone can lend him some boots.
Mark C, England
There seem to be a lot of offended English people in this forum, simply because the Aussies are confident in their ability and go out to win every game. Hussain's decision to bowl on the first morning of the first Test of England's most important series for years shows the ingrained negativity on the English cricketing psyche.
The Aussies on the other hand play to win every match - hence our record of 28 victories in the last 35 Tests, and 364 on the opening day. Should Australia apologise for playing hard and positive every time they take the field? That question does not deserve an answer.
Spiro, ex-pat Aussie, Cheshire
England look like a depleted side now with Jones gone. Without any firepower in their bowling department England will find it hard to resist the all-conquering Aussies. I only hope that English top order clicks to find some excitement in an otherwise predictable series.
Manav, India
I feel embarrassed to call myself English after that shameful day. I wonder if the team will surrender their 'match fee' to subsidise the ticket costs of the thousands of poor souls out there having to watch it.
What on earth was Hussain thinking when the coin came down? I would not be surprised if that decision turns out to cost him his job and reputation. Disgraceful
Simon, England
Being so much better than England is great in cricket. I hope that in the next decade it can happen in soccer too.
Raymond, Australia
Now is not the time for doubting the decisions of Hussain or the quality of the England attack
Chris, UK
What is all this complaining about bad attitudes by Australian winners? Sport is culture in Australia - we are brought up playing it at school from a very early age. It is the competition that is important, the result secondary.
Stating that the Poms have not got a chance in hell is not being arrogant or big-headed, it is a realistic appraisal of the position. Commiserations to the Jones lad - he is one of the only blokes playing for England that looked like he can match it with the best in the world.
Michael (Aus ex-pat), UK
Australia have won the first day of a five-day match of a five-match series. That does not mean England are out of the Ashes series. Now is not the time for doubting the decisions of Hussain or the quality of the England attack. Now is the time for belief that we can turn this bad start around and regain the Ashes.
Chris, UK
Nasser's tactics have been called into question following his putting the Aussies into bat. I think his tactics are spot on - get the humiliation over in three days and get on the beach!
Tony King, England
I think England will be soundly beaten but will come out with some credit. Australia have one of the greatest teams of all time, and if we make them play hard to win the series then that will be an achievement. I think Nasser and the team are too bloody-minded to capitulate, even after a disastrous first day.
Jeremy, England
A bit off topic, so sorry - but poor Simon Jones - is he the unluckiest bowler in Test match cricket? If anyone out there reading this speaks to him soon, please wish him all the best for a speedy and full recovery - the England team and supporters will be waiting for you.
England are lazy and undisciplined in the field - not to mention unskilled
John Stephano, Australia
And come on boys, it aint over yet. Heads up, soft hands, let's get them for less than 500 tomorrow!
Richard, UK
In answer to your question, no. But that does not excuse the comments from Australians on this site. It is a sport, and there are winners and there are losers - but that should not matter. Feeble attitude? Maybe, but one day the tables will be turned, and I doubt we will scoop to the low levels of some of the comments on this site.
Andrew, England
When I heard that England had won the toss (it was 15-0 at the time) and chosen to field I prayed that I wouldn't wake up this morning and find out it was 300-2. I was wrong - it was worse! If the Aussie batsmen are to be bowled out twice they have to be put under pressure, and the easiest way to do that it to bat and put a big score on the board.
As was said on the radio this morning, they chose to bowl so that the bowlers may have a chance! Talk about a lack of confidence. I really thought England had a chance in this series, but after only one day's play I think I'll watch the rugby instead - at least they believe they can win.
Tim Oxley, UK
The state of English cricket is a joke - the Australian players would be experiencing better competition in their hometown grade cricket leagues. England's display started with a terrible decision from their captain to send possibly one of the greatest batting line-ups ever assembled (minus Mark Waugh) into bat!
England are lazy and undisciplined in the field - not to mention unskilled, and the series will be one of the biggest jokes in international sporting history. Maybe if you appointed Rod Marsh as head coach now, you would give us a decent summer of cricket in, say, ten years.
John Stephano, Australia
Why elect to field on an incredibly flat wicket on a sunny day?
Mark Hatcher, England
When we won the toss, I was ready to stay up and watch us bat and have a go at the Aussies. Instead, Nasser gave them the perfect opportunity to stick us under huge pressure - a questionable decision is an understatement. I was never too optimistic with the task that faced us - but I'm very upset now
Skel, England
Simon from the UK (below) refers to some English charm and culture rubbing off on the Aussies as being a "good thing". If he's referring to the losing culture that dominates English sport, then I think the Aussies would rather stay as brash and **** sure as they are!
Dale, South Africa
I used to have respect for Nasser Hussein but that is now gone. If England have a strength it is their batting. Why elect to field on an incredibly flat wicket on a sunny day? Probably the worst insertion in the history of Test cricket.
His explanation for bowling first was a load of utter rubbish. It was pure cowardice. If the Aussies had won the toss they would have batted, and then we would have complained about losing the toss. Disappointed - very disappointed.
Mark Hatcher, England
I feel desperately sorry for Simon Jones - what an unlucky injury that may well put his career back a couple of years. Good luck to him - he has a talent and attitude that England need!
Arnab, UK
It's 13 years since Allan Border's team exposed England as a bunch of injury-prone, bumbling amateurs. Isn't that long enough to try to put some kind of programme in place to rectify it?
Three dropped catches and a career-threatening injury on the opening day of the series is par for the course. Don't blame the Aussies for gloating - we'd do exactly the same.
Richard, UK
Until we do the basics well, like taking straightforward catches, we have no chance
James Foley, UK
Forget what is happening on the pitch now, and spare a thought for Simon Jones. A bright Test prospect devastated by a tragic freak injury. It is the saddest thing I have seen in cricket since Syd Lawrence's injury. You can forget pathetic jingoism and crowing in these circumstances.
Stuart, Wales
Why don't Australia have injuries as frequently as England? When they do, why are they able to dip into their deep resources of talent and pull out yet another great player? Simple - they love the game. The country loves the game and the players love the game.
England as a Nation needs to start loving the game. All too often, the peanut galleries in the smoky pubs around England sit back and criticise Hussain et al for their efforts.
Instead of switching over to watch the latest footie, put your beers down England, head for the nearest nets (outdoor or indoor) with your mates or more importantly, kids, and start loving the game. Soon, you'll start loving victory.
Michael, Zimbabwe
I am realistic enough to know that England are not good enough to win a series against one of the all time great sides, but why do they continue to make life hard for themselves?
Psychologically, Australia took the initiative when they got of the mark from a stupid mis-field. I doubt they will look back from now until Sydney! Until we do the basics well, like taking straightforward catches, we have no chance.
James Foley, UK
Jones' injury is a real shame - let's hope its' not career threatening
Michael, Australia
Oh no England, not again! As much as we love beating the Poms, we do want a contest. All the talk prior to the game from England/Hussain was about being positive, taking the Aussies on, showing some grit and putting Australia under pressure.
Once on the field, it's the same old England! Already turning to negative tactics. Jones' injury is a real shame though - let's hope its' not career threatening as he looks like a great prospect.
Nasser, at least go down fighting and make your team give it their all! At least you will earn respect. There is no shame losing to a better team, but at least do so with pride. Today's effort was pathetic. Lift your team for tomorrow - otherwise the damage for the series is already done.
Michael, Australia
Thank goodness for the barmy army - at least you can be sure they will put on a world-class performance. Shame about their team.
Colin, Australia
Poor England. Clearly they were hopelessly intimidated by Australia and had virtually lost the series in their own minds before walking onto the Gabba.
Despite Hussain's view of the pitch as 'green', he should have batted. He merely signalled his desire to retreat by fielding. The bowlers and fielders carried it on. Australia can be beaten - why can't England do it?
Mark, Australia
There is no way we can hope to beat the Aussies when our selection process is so flawed
Tim Jackson, England
Australia are currently the strongest batting side in the world by a fair distance, and England's bowling is probably in the bottom three among the major Test playing nations. That spells some miserable time out in the field for the Brits during the Ashes.
Vaughn, Trescothick, Nasser and co will really have to bat like hell to make this a good series - and that too against Warne and McGrath. Still, I would ignore the fat-headed Aussies' comments as they're not as unbeatable as they think, and a whitewash is still a long shot. Good luck England.
Asad H, USA
Having heard on radio last night that we had elected to field, I knew what would happen. After day one of the Ashes there's no point following it any more.
We'll win the last Test when Australia rest their first team and field an Up-Country village XI. I'm bitterly disappointed - Hussain must have taken leave of his senses. No Hope.
Denis W Barnard, UK
England as good as conceded the Ashes when they picked the squad. Several players had (serious) injury problems and Graham Thorpe was obviously not in the right frame of mind for a long overseas tour.
Luckily, he himself admitted so before the party left home. Whilst I can understand taking a gamble on one key player not being 100% fit, England's selection strategy should be seriously questioned.
A pretty useless team are England - gutless, shambolic, headless chickens. Let's hope they are beaten 5-0
Mike, New Zealand
For England to mount any sort of challenge for the Ashes, they needed to take a fit, focused squad of players hungry for victory. The guys they've taken are none of these and, given the injury problems to have manifested themselves so far, will already have a "siege mentality" and an overly-defensive approach to the Test matches.
There is no way we can hope to beat the Aussies when our selection process is so flawed.
Tim Jackson, England
Whilst I might take some satisfaction in a 5-0 thrashing, I think most people would agree that a good competitive series would be far preferable. I've been watching the English side over the last two years, and had high hopes until I checked the results at the end of day one.
And nobody can take any satisfaction from the dreadful injury to young Simon Jones, who I thought was going to be a real leading light for the English boys. I'd like to wish him a speedy recovery. As for the rest of the series, hopefully the English boys will be able to use Jones' injury to gee themselves up and give us all some riveting cricket this summer.
Richard All****, Australia
A bad day at the office: cruel luck on Jones, a strange decision to field first - then rotten fielding! But with a new ball and a new day, the batsmen have to play themselves in again. The Aussies will look to get 600 and declare; we have to keep the pressure on and make them fight for every run. Then, our batsmen must stand up and be counted. All to play for!
Hugh Terry, Hong Kong
Damn right we have a chance. It was only the first day of the series, and they were bound to catch us cold! We'll get better and start to compete on a level playing field. Just think - we haven't batted yet!
Ed, England
A pretty useless team are England - gutless, shambolic, headless chickens. Let's hope they are beaten 5-0.
Mike, New Zealand
This England team would struggle against a first grade team in the Brisbane club competition - and that's without any injury worries
Dwayne Hoy, UK/Australia
England don't have a prayer now that the only bowler with any real fire is out of the contest. What rotten luck for Jones and England. The whole tour was a shambles from the start - taking players who were not fit, etc. The best they can hope for is to draw one match.
K McCann, England
The Brits' pessimism is undeserved, as is my countrymen's arrogance. Hayden should have been given out to Jones' catch - rotten luck for Blighty. Jones might still be throwing thunder down the pitch - more rotten luck for Blighty.
In fact, apart from Ponting's brilliance, the innings' one-sidedness has been more due to luck than any antipodean might. This is damned rotten luck for Australians - now we'll have to put up with this inflated mob's egos even longer.
Markus Mannheim, Australia
Hussain you coward! Didn't fancy a bat today? So you relied on our world-class, all conquering, full strength "attack"! Shame on you. After the big mistake, of course, the performance was pathetic. And consider this: if we had chosen to bat, Simon Jones would by now probably have suffered nothing worse than a duck.
Adam D, England
I seriously think that this England team would struggle against a first grade team in the Brisbane club competition - and that's without any injury worries. The best they can hope for is to draw one of the Tests (with the help of rain).
Dwayne Hoy, UK/Australia
That just about sums it up. One broken down fast bowler lifting another on a stretcher off the field of play. England should now concede the Ashes and go home!
Mark Newman, Hong Kong
The difference between the two countries is that Pommies talk the talk but can't perform. Aussies just say what they feel and do their best.
Why, oh why would Nasser send the Aussies in to bat on a flat batting strip?
Dave, Australia
McGrath says he'll be disappointed if they don't win 5-0. Warne says he says he expects to win 5-0. I fail to see any arrogance or slanging in that, just honesty.
Not only are the Aussies a team of champions, they're a champion team. There is no glory in beating a third-rate team. We'd rather the Poms better and make a game of it. We are doing what we can to help you become a force again. Good luck Rod Marsh, you're going to need it.
Ian, Oz
Please tell me it isn't so. Why, oh why would Nasser send the Aussies in to bat on a flat batting strip? If England had opted to bat it could have been 1/250 in England's favour based on the form of the English top order.
There go the Ashes and there goes my summer of looking forward to some competitive cricket.
Dave, Australia
New definition of suicide: putting Australia in to bat on a perfect wicket on a hot, sunny day shortly after the State side had flogged you for 582 at the same venue.
Australia's preferred strategy is to bat first and bat the other side out of the game on the first innings. I can't imagine what Hussain's strategy is.
Faustino, Australia (Pom)
Australia are all but unbeatable
Austin, UK
I agree partly with Daniel from Sydney (below). I wish the English cricket team would go home and spare all us ex-pats from what will be an embarrassing few weeks. The only part I disagree with is that the English cricket team have any pride in the first place.
Jamie, Australia
Will someone tell me the purpose of winning the toss and then inviting the opposition to bat, completely surrendering the initiative? How many Tests have been won by the team inserting the opposition, as opposed to electing to bat first?
Garry L Foster (ex-pat Brit), USA
NASSER INSANE!
A Shearer, England
Australia are all but unbeatable. Cricket does throw up shock results but not enough for England. They might win one, there is always that chance but it is hard to predict where or how.
Austin, UK
We may not win the cricket but if some of our English charm and culture rubs off on some Aussies that can only be a good thing!
Simon, UK
England may be able to sneak a surprise victory at some stage
Ian Lockett, UK
The inclusion of Crawley is ridiculous he scored a hundred against a powder puff Sri Lankan attack in the summer but has done little else since, Key should have been given a chance. It is good to see the Aussies as arrogant as ever. Let's just hope the smirk is wiped of their faces by Tresco come Sunday!
Ross, England
Regardless of the result, Vaughan will make his name on this tour to place him among the all time great England openers.
Jules, UK
I can't believe the rude comments by some of the Australians on this page. Granted Australia has a better team then England, but do you really have to be so big headed about it? Show some decency!
Gordon Howes, England
It's disappointing that the only Australian comments so far are of a derogatory nature considering the supposed ethic and spirit of the game in question.
England have no doubt improved over the last few years thanks to Messrs. Hussain and Fletcher, however, they are still nowhere near the strength and skill of the Australians. I believe England may be able to sneak a surprise victory at some stage, but it will require eleven heart-and-soul contributions.
Ian Lockett, UK
Why does this need to turn into a UK/Australia slanging match - on both sides?
Greg, UK
England's chances lie whole heartedly in their mental attitude, and as long as they are strong mentally they will entertain regardless of the results. Obviously, we hope for more than that, but let's be honest and say what people really want is something to be proud of.
Martin, England
The Aussies are of course a great team, but there's winning with grace and winning gracelessly. Not too sure which one they fall under just yet.
Chris Cassley, United Kingdom
England have an outside chance of pulling off a major shock. However I feel that the whole series will depend on the first session. If England gets off to a confidant start then they could be in with a shout. If the first two hours go sadly wrong then the series could be over before it starts.
Lea Goddard, England
Why does this need to turn into a UK/Australia slanging match - on both sides? This board has some of the usual tones that enter into the rivalry between our two nations - the silly English superiority complex/the unsophisticated Australian brow beating. Both attitudes are based on insecurity and a lack of insight into the fact that both nations are great for very different reasons.
As for cricket, god, its pretty obvious that on current form England will have to play at their best to win the series and the Australians will have to be below par. It's unlikely that both of these things will happen, but cricket's such a psychological game that a good start by England and ... you never know.
Greg, UK
Why the hell was "Creepy" Crawley picked ahead of Key?
Richard Evans, UK
I can't see anything but a 5-0 thrashing. England look stronger on paper and with Goughie and Freddie to return things can only get better. The Aussies are past it and will end the series in turmoil after trying 25 different players and three new captains. The tides have changed and The Ashes will be England's for 75 years.
Ben, UK
Australia will win the series for two reasons - McGrath and Warne. England's best and only hope is to target these two with some short stuff when they come out to bat. Steve Waugh should also receive some roughing up too because he hates it and always has.
Why the hell was "Creepy" Crawley picked ahead of Key? You can tell the Aussies don't rate him because they talk him up every time he's selected against them.
Richard Evans, UK
My oh my, the Australians do have a high opinion of themselves don't they. They have only one place to go from here...down! Most of the side is well over 30 and I for one can hear the winds of change...C'mon England (and Wales)...Jones will make Oz eat leather.
Gareth Evans, Wales
Looking at the selected XI you struggle to see where the inspiration for a win will come from. Hussain is not a good captain - he sticks by tactics when a situation is lost to keep things respectable instead of going down fighting.
Brownie, UK
Some of our big names will be truly made this winter
Chris Cox, England
I think England have a great chance of turning the tables on an over-confident Australian XI. I take my hat off to the selectors for including Craig White.
Ian, UK
In response to Daniel from Sydney: Fortunately for the rest of the western world, we in England understand the truly important things in life. Hence the reason that we will always be good losers at sport and good winners in business.
One of the only reasons we keep the Ashes going is that when they are played in England we can actually visit any pub in Earls Court without the fear of being served by someone who hasn't washed in a month. Good luck, but at the end of the day, who cares?
Tim, Mighty England
Some of our big names will be truly made this winter. The opening partnership, the captaincy of Hussain and pace of Jones will all impress. But the mediocre elements (Crawley, why not Key?), a creaking Stewart and the guileless Giles will let us down in the end against a rock solid Aussie XI.
Chris Cox, England
People should not dismiss England's chances so readily. We have an excellent opening partnership in Trescothick and Vaughan and our bowling with, Jones and Hoggard, has great potential.
OK, we go into the first Test as big underdogs, but we should at least give the lads a chance without writing them off even before a ball has been bowled. To all the Aussies out there: You may be better than us at the moment, but be warned, English cricket is on the up.
Two good performances and two Tests drawn would be enough!
Stacey Smith, United Kingdom
With the likes of Anderson, Troughton, Clarke, Bell and other class acts being nurtured at the Academy, it is just a matter of time before the tables turn.
Oliver, UK
Our main problem with the Aussies is that they beat us at the mental game before the Test has even started. Stop listening to them, concentrate and we have a good chance.
Chris, England
Good performances from Trescothick, Vaughan, Butcher and Hussain coupled with Hoggard and Caddick, could make things interesting. Two good performances and two Tests drawn would be enough! COME ON BOYS!
Stacey Smith, United Kingdom
I love it!!!
England were always in for a torrid time against the might of Australia, but even the most pessimistic of cricket fans would have struggled to predict such an abysmal start.
A combination of excellent batting, poor bowling and woeful fielding helped Australia reach 364-2 at stumps, as Hussain's decision to put them into bat spectacularly backfired.
To make matters worse, Jones suffered a serious knee injury that will put him out of the game for at least six months, and leaves England's already depleted bowling attack looking even thinner.
Can it get any worse for England? And what hope do they have for the rest of the series?
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I must apologise on behalf of my compatriots. We may have the best cricket team, but we also have the must smug and arrogant of fans. Australia's position was the result of hard work - Border, Taylor and Waugh - not big headedness.
As for England, they may well bat better but how are their crocked bowling outfit going to bowl Australia out now? When oh when will teams stop pushing 80% fit players back into international cricket?
Chris, Australia
I wish the England team would stay at home. It seems their only purpose in life is to embarrass this country and give the terminally insecure Aussies something to bash us with. Please, we're better than that - let's stick to what we are good at and let the Aussies have the few crumbs of comfort they get from sport and Kylie Minogue.
Keith, UK
To put it bluntly, England have no chance whatsoever! To start with, man for man (even when fully fit) we are a lot weaker than the Aussies, with only two of our batsman averaging above 40 in Test cricket! The fielding was laughable, and of the bowling only Hoggard and Jones (before his injury) ever looked threatening.
Of all Hussain's many tactical blunders, this is by far the worst - he should consider his position
Jeremy Griffiths, Manchester, UK
Unless things go for Caddick, the man just gives up. Sometimes he looks like he's just bowling like a fairy - we don't need players like that! Finally, what were the selectors thinking when they called up Tudor? They must have been drunk - the guy is an average county bowler, and I'll give him two matches before he begins to moan about his shins!
Adrian, UK
I am incensed that all the good work and progress we have made has been thrown away. What a stupid and gutless decision to let the Aussies bat in perfect conditions on a flat track. It says to the Aussies that we are scared of their bowlers and don't back our batsmen.
It's handed the Australian team a huge advantage (like they didn't already have one!) and we will be defeated heavily. Of all Hussain's many tactical blunders, this is by far the worst - he should consider his position.
Jeremy Griffiths, Manchester, UK
Of course Australia are going to win. I am hoping that England might be able to put up a bit of fight for a couple of Tests - let's go down 5-0 having at least made a bit of an effort and having had a few sessions to cheer through.
Australia are so smug and ungracious in victory that they are fast becoming the Man Utd of the sporting world. They are the team everyone else wants to see beaten, regardless of the opposition.
Vicky Wiseman, England
It's no good banging on about the Aussies on this site - the English would do just the same if we we're in the same position. Every Ashes series, the press bring up 1981, and as great as it was, it's wearing a tad thin now.
I feel embarrassed to call myself English after that shameful day
Simon, England
I take it Mr Botham is over in Aus in some capacity or another - perhaps someone can lend him some boots.
Mark C, England
There seem to be a lot of offended English people in this forum, simply because the Aussies are confident in their ability and go out to win every game. Hussain's decision to bowl on the first morning of the first Test of England's most important series for years shows the ingrained negativity on the English cricketing psyche.
The Aussies on the other hand play to win every match - hence our record of 28 victories in the last 35 Tests, and 364 on the opening day. Should Australia apologise for playing hard and positive every time they take the field? That question does not deserve an answer.
Spiro, ex-pat Aussie, Cheshire
England look like a depleted side now with Jones gone. Without any firepower in their bowling department England will find it hard to resist the all-conquering Aussies. I only hope that English top order clicks to find some excitement in an otherwise predictable series.
Manav, India
I feel embarrassed to call myself English after that shameful day. I wonder if the team will surrender their 'match fee' to subsidise the ticket costs of the thousands of poor souls out there having to watch it.
What on earth was Hussain thinking when the coin came down? I would not be surprised if that decision turns out to cost him his job and reputation. Disgraceful
Simon, England
Being so much better than England is great in cricket. I hope that in the next decade it can happen in soccer too.
Raymond, Australia
Now is not the time for doubting the decisions of Hussain or the quality of the England attack
Chris, UK
What is all this complaining about bad attitudes by Australian winners? Sport is culture in Australia - we are brought up playing it at school from a very early age. It is the competition that is important, the result secondary.
Stating that the Poms have not got a chance in hell is not being arrogant or big-headed, it is a realistic appraisal of the position. Commiserations to the Jones lad - he is one of the only blokes playing for England that looked like he can match it with the best in the world.
Michael (Aus ex-pat), UK
Australia have won the first day of a five-day match of a five-match series. That does not mean England are out of the Ashes series. Now is not the time for doubting the decisions of Hussain or the quality of the England attack. Now is the time for belief that we can turn this bad start around and regain the Ashes.
Chris, UK
Nasser's tactics have been called into question following his putting the Aussies into bat. I think his tactics are spot on - get the humiliation over in three days and get on the beach!
Tony King, England
I think England will be soundly beaten but will come out with some credit. Australia have one of the greatest teams of all time, and if we make them play hard to win the series then that will be an achievement. I think Nasser and the team are too bloody-minded to capitulate, even after a disastrous first day.
Jeremy, England
A bit off topic, so sorry - but poor Simon Jones - is he the unluckiest bowler in Test match cricket? If anyone out there reading this speaks to him soon, please wish him all the best for a speedy and full recovery - the England team and supporters will be waiting for you.
England are lazy and undisciplined in the field - not to mention unskilled
John Stephano, Australia
And come on boys, it aint over yet. Heads up, soft hands, let's get them for less than 500 tomorrow!
Richard, UK
In answer to your question, no. But that does not excuse the comments from Australians on this site. It is a sport, and there are winners and there are losers - but that should not matter. Feeble attitude? Maybe, but one day the tables will be turned, and I doubt we will scoop to the low levels of some of the comments on this site.
Andrew, England
When I heard that England had won the toss (it was 15-0 at the time) and chosen to field I prayed that I wouldn't wake up this morning and find out it was 300-2. I was wrong - it was worse! If the Aussie batsmen are to be bowled out twice they have to be put under pressure, and the easiest way to do that it to bat and put a big score on the board.
As was said on the radio this morning, they chose to bowl so that the bowlers may have a chance! Talk about a lack of confidence. I really thought England had a chance in this series, but after only one day's play I think I'll watch the rugby instead - at least they believe they can win.
Tim Oxley, UK
The state of English cricket is a joke - the Australian players would be experiencing better competition in their hometown grade cricket leagues. England's display started with a terrible decision from their captain to send possibly one of the greatest batting line-ups ever assembled (minus Mark Waugh) into bat!
England are lazy and undisciplined in the field - not to mention unskilled, and the series will be one of the biggest jokes in international sporting history. Maybe if you appointed Rod Marsh as head coach now, you would give us a decent summer of cricket in, say, ten years.
John Stephano, Australia
Why elect to field on an incredibly flat wicket on a sunny day?
Mark Hatcher, England
When we won the toss, I was ready to stay up and watch us bat and have a go at the Aussies. Instead, Nasser gave them the perfect opportunity to stick us under huge pressure - a questionable decision is an understatement. I was never too optimistic with the task that faced us - but I'm very upset now
Skel, England
Simon from the UK (below) refers to some English charm and culture rubbing off on the Aussies as being a "good thing". If he's referring to the losing culture that dominates English sport, then I think the Aussies would rather stay as brash and **** sure as they are!
Dale, South Africa
I used to have respect for Nasser Hussein but that is now gone. If England have a strength it is their batting. Why elect to field on an incredibly flat wicket on a sunny day? Probably the worst insertion in the history of Test cricket.
His explanation for bowling first was a load of utter rubbish. It was pure cowardice. If the Aussies had won the toss they would have batted, and then we would have complained about losing the toss. Disappointed - very disappointed.
Mark Hatcher, England
I feel desperately sorry for Simon Jones - what an unlucky injury that may well put his career back a couple of years. Good luck to him - he has a talent and attitude that England need!
Arnab, UK
It's 13 years since Allan Border's team exposed England as a bunch of injury-prone, bumbling amateurs. Isn't that long enough to try to put some kind of programme in place to rectify it?
Three dropped catches and a career-threatening injury on the opening day of the series is par for the course. Don't blame the Aussies for gloating - we'd do exactly the same.
Richard, UK
Until we do the basics well, like taking straightforward catches, we have no chance
James Foley, UK
Forget what is happening on the pitch now, and spare a thought for Simon Jones. A bright Test prospect devastated by a tragic freak injury. It is the saddest thing I have seen in cricket since Syd Lawrence's injury. You can forget pathetic jingoism and crowing in these circumstances.
Stuart, Wales
Why don't Australia have injuries as frequently as England? When they do, why are they able to dip into their deep resources of talent and pull out yet another great player? Simple - they love the game. The country loves the game and the players love the game.
England as a Nation needs to start loving the game. All too often, the peanut galleries in the smoky pubs around England sit back and criticise Hussain et al for their efforts.
Instead of switching over to watch the latest footie, put your beers down England, head for the nearest nets (outdoor or indoor) with your mates or more importantly, kids, and start loving the game. Soon, you'll start loving victory.
Michael, Zimbabwe
I am realistic enough to know that England are not good enough to win a series against one of the all time great sides, but why do they continue to make life hard for themselves?
Psychologically, Australia took the initiative when they got of the mark from a stupid mis-field. I doubt they will look back from now until Sydney! Until we do the basics well, like taking straightforward catches, we have no chance.
James Foley, UK
Jones' injury is a real shame - let's hope its' not career threatening
Michael, Australia
Oh no England, not again! As much as we love beating the Poms, we do want a contest. All the talk prior to the game from England/Hussain was about being positive, taking the Aussies on, showing some grit and putting Australia under pressure.
Once on the field, it's the same old England! Already turning to negative tactics. Jones' injury is a real shame though - let's hope its' not career threatening as he looks like a great prospect.
Nasser, at least go down fighting and make your team give it their all! At least you will earn respect. There is no shame losing to a better team, but at least do so with pride. Today's effort was pathetic. Lift your team for tomorrow - otherwise the damage for the series is already done.
Michael, Australia
Thank goodness for the barmy army - at least you can be sure they will put on a world-class performance. Shame about their team.
Colin, Australia
Poor England. Clearly they were hopelessly intimidated by Australia and had virtually lost the series in their own minds before walking onto the Gabba.
Despite Hussain's view of the pitch as 'green', he should have batted. He merely signalled his desire to retreat by fielding. The bowlers and fielders carried it on. Australia can be beaten - why can't England do it?
Mark, Australia
There is no way we can hope to beat the Aussies when our selection process is so flawed
Tim Jackson, England
Australia are currently the strongest batting side in the world by a fair distance, and England's bowling is probably in the bottom three among the major Test playing nations. That spells some miserable time out in the field for the Brits during the Ashes.
Vaughn, Trescothick, Nasser and co will really have to bat like hell to make this a good series - and that too against Warne and McGrath. Still, I would ignore the fat-headed Aussies' comments as they're not as unbeatable as they think, and a whitewash is still a long shot. Good luck England.
Asad H, USA
Having heard on radio last night that we had elected to field, I knew what would happen. After day one of the Ashes there's no point following it any more.
We'll win the last Test when Australia rest their first team and field an Up-Country village XI. I'm bitterly disappointed - Hussain must have taken leave of his senses. No Hope.
Denis W Barnard, UK
England as good as conceded the Ashes when they picked the squad. Several players had (serious) injury problems and Graham Thorpe was obviously not in the right frame of mind for a long overseas tour.
Luckily, he himself admitted so before the party left home. Whilst I can understand taking a gamble on one key player not being 100% fit, England's selection strategy should be seriously questioned.
A pretty useless team are England - gutless, shambolic, headless chickens. Let's hope they are beaten 5-0
Mike, New Zealand
For England to mount any sort of challenge for the Ashes, they needed to take a fit, focused squad of players hungry for victory. The guys they've taken are none of these and, given the injury problems to have manifested themselves so far, will already have a "siege mentality" and an overly-defensive approach to the Test matches.
There is no way we can hope to beat the Aussies when our selection process is so flawed.
Tim Jackson, England
Whilst I might take some satisfaction in a 5-0 thrashing, I think most people would agree that a good competitive series would be far preferable. I've been watching the English side over the last two years, and had high hopes until I checked the results at the end of day one.
And nobody can take any satisfaction from the dreadful injury to young Simon Jones, who I thought was going to be a real leading light for the English boys. I'd like to wish him a speedy recovery. As for the rest of the series, hopefully the English boys will be able to use Jones' injury to gee themselves up and give us all some riveting cricket this summer.
Richard All****, Australia
A bad day at the office: cruel luck on Jones, a strange decision to field first - then rotten fielding! But with a new ball and a new day, the batsmen have to play themselves in again. The Aussies will look to get 600 and declare; we have to keep the pressure on and make them fight for every run. Then, our batsmen must stand up and be counted. All to play for!
Hugh Terry, Hong Kong
Damn right we have a chance. It was only the first day of the series, and they were bound to catch us cold! We'll get better and start to compete on a level playing field. Just think - we haven't batted yet!
Ed, England
A pretty useless team are England - gutless, shambolic, headless chickens. Let's hope they are beaten 5-0.
Mike, New Zealand
This England team would struggle against a first grade team in the Brisbane club competition - and that's without any injury worries
Dwayne Hoy, UK/Australia
England don't have a prayer now that the only bowler with any real fire is out of the contest. What rotten luck for Jones and England. The whole tour was a shambles from the start - taking players who were not fit, etc. The best they can hope for is to draw one match.
K McCann, England
The Brits' pessimism is undeserved, as is my countrymen's arrogance. Hayden should have been given out to Jones' catch - rotten luck for Blighty. Jones might still be throwing thunder down the pitch - more rotten luck for Blighty.
In fact, apart from Ponting's brilliance, the innings' one-sidedness has been more due to luck than any antipodean might. This is damned rotten luck for Australians - now we'll have to put up with this inflated mob's egos even longer.
Markus Mannheim, Australia
Hussain you coward! Didn't fancy a bat today? So you relied on our world-class, all conquering, full strength "attack"! Shame on you. After the big mistake, of course, the performance was pathetic. And consider this: if we had chosen to bat, Simon Jones would by now probably have suffered nothing worse than a duck.
Adam D, England
I seriously think that this England team would struggle against a first grade team in the Brisbane club competition - and that's without any injury worries. The best they can hope for is to draw one of the Tests (with the help of rain).
Dwayne Hoy, UK/Australia
That just about sums it up. One broken down fast bowler lifting another on a stretcher off the field of play. England should now concede the Ashes and go home!
Mark Newman, Hong Kong
The difference between the two countries is that Pommies talk the talk but can't perform. Aussies just say what they feel and do their best.
Why, oh why would Nasser send the Aussies in to bat on a flat batting strip?
Dave, Australia
McGrath says he'll be disappointed if they don't win 5-0. Warne says he says he expects to win 5-0. I fail to see any arrogance or slanging in that, just honesty.
Not only are the Aussies a team of champions, they're a champion team. There is no glory in beating a third-rate team. We'd rather the Poms better and make a game of it. We are doing what we can to help you become a force again. Good luck Rod Marsh, you're going to need it.
Ian, Oz
Please tell me it isn't so. Why, oh why would Nasser send the Aussies in to bat on a flat batting strip? If England had opted to bat it could have been 1/250 in England's favour based on the form of the English top order.
There go the Ashes and there goes my summer of looking forward to some competitive cricket.
Dave, Australia
New definition of suicide: putting Australia in to bat on a perfect wicket on a hot, sunny day shortly after the State side had flogged you for 582 at the same venue.
Australia's preferred strategy is to bat first and bat the other side out of the game on the first innings. I can't imagine what Hussain's strategy is.
Faustino, Australia (Pom)
Australia are all but unbeatable
Austin, UK
I agree partly with Daniel from Sydney (below). I wish the English cricket team would go home and spare all us ex-pats from what will be an embarrassing few weeks. The only part I disagree with is that the English cricket team have any pride in the first place.
Jamie, Australia
Will someone tell me the purpose of winning the toss and then inviting the opposition to bat, completely surrendering the initiative? How many Tests have been won by the team inserting the opposition, as opposed to electing to bat first?
Garry L Foster (ex-pat Brit), USA
NASSER INSANE!
A Shearer, England
Australia are all but unbeatable. Cricket does throw up shock results but not enough for England. They might win one, there is always that chance but it is hard to predict where or how.
Austin, UK
We may not win the cricket but if some of our English charm and culture rubs off on some Aussies that can only be a good thing!
Simon, UK
England may be able to sneak a surprise victory at some stage
Ian Lockett, UK
The inclusion of Crawley is ridiculous he scored a hundred against a powder puff Sri Lankan attack in the summer but has done little else since, Key should have been given a chance. It is good to see the Aussies as arrogant as ever. Let's just hope the smirk is wiped of their faces by Tresco come Sunday!
Ross, England
Regardless of the result, Vaughan will make his name on this tour to place him among the all time great England openers.
Jules, UK
I can't believe the rude comments by some of the Australians on this page. Granted Australia has a better team then England, but do you really have to be so big headed about it? Show some decency!
Gordon Howes, England
It's disappointing that the only Australian comments so far are of a derogatory nature considering the supposed ethic and spirit of the game in question.
England have no doubt improved over the last few years thanks to Messrs. Hussain and Fletcher, however, they are still nowhere near the strength and skill of the Australians. I believe England may be able to sneak a surprise victory at some stage, but it will require eleven heart-and-soul contributions.
Ian Lockett, UK
Why does this need to turn into a UK/Australia slanging match - on both sides?
Greg, UK
England's chances lie whole heartedly in their mental attitude, and as long as they are strong mentally they will entertain regardless of the results. Obviously, we hope for more than that, but let's be honest and say what people really want is something to be proud of.
Martin, England
The Aussies are of course a great team, but there's winning with grace and winning gracelessly. Not too sure which one they fall under just yet.
Chris Cassley, United Kingdom
England have an outside chance of pulling off a major shock. However I feel that the whole series will depend on the first session. If England gets off to a confidant start then they could be in with a shout. If the first two hours go sadly wrong then the series could be over before it starts.
Lea Goddard, England
Why does this need to turn into a UK/Australia slanging match - on both sides? This board has some of the usual tones that enter into the rivalry between our two nations - the silly English superiority complex/the unsophisticated Australian brow beating. Both attitudes are based on insecurity and a lack of insight into the fact that both nations are great for very different reasons.
As for cricket, god, its pretty obvious that on current form England will have to play at their best to win the series and the Australians will have to be below par. It's unlikely that both of these things will happen, but cricket's such a psychological game that a good start by England and ... you never know.
Greg, UK
Why the hell was "Creepy" Crawley picked ahead of Key?
Richard Evans, UK
I can't see anything but a 5-0 thrashing. England look stronger on paper and with Goughie and Freddie to return things can only get better. The Aussies are past it and will end the series in turmoil after trying 25 different players and three new captains. The tides have changed and The Ashes will be England's for 75 years.
Ben, UK
Australia will win the series for two reasons - McGrath and Warne. England's best and only hope is to target these two with some short stuff when they come out to bat. Steve Waugh should also receive some roughing up too because he hates it and always has.
Why the hell was "Creepy" Crawley picked ahead of Key? You can tell the Aussies don't rate him because they talk him up every time he's selected against them.
Richard Evans, UK
My oh my, the Australians do have a high opinion of themselves don't they. They have only one place to go from here...down! Most of the side is well over 30 and I for one can hear the winds of change...C'mon England (and Wales)...Jones will make Oz eat leather.
Gareth Evans, Wales
Looking at the selected XI you struggle to see where the inspiration for a win will come from. Hussain is not a good captain - he sticks by tactics when a situation is lost to keep things respectable instead of going down fighting.
Brownie, UK
Some of our big names will be truly made this winter
Chris Cox, England
I think England have a great chance of turning the tables on an over-confident Australian XI. I take my hat off to the selectors for including Craig White.
Ian, UK
In response to Daniel from Sydney: Fortunately for the rest of the western world, we in England understand the truly important things in life. Hence the reason that we will always be good losers at sport and good winners in business.
One of the only reasons we keep the Ashes going is that when they are played in England we can actually visit any pub in Earls Court without the fear of being served by someone who hasn't washed in a month. Good luck, but at the end of the day, who cares?
Tim, Mighty England
Some of our big names will be truly made this winter. The opening partnership, the captaincy of Hussain and pace of Jones will all impress. But the mediocre elements (Crawley, why not Key?), a creaking Stewart and the guileless Giles will let us down in the end against a rock solid Aussie XI.
Chris Cox, England
People should not dismiss England's chances so readily. We have an excellent opening partnership in Trescothick and Vaughan and our bowling with, Jones and Hoggard, has great potential.
OK, we go into the first Test as big underdogs, but we should at least give the lads a chance without writing them off even before a ball has been bowled. To all the Aussies out there: You may be better than us at the moment, but be warned, English cricket is on the up.
Two good performances and two Tests drawn would be enough!
Stacey Smith, United Kingdom
With the likes of Anderson, Troughton, Clarke, Bell and other class acts being nurtured at the Academy, it is just a matter of time before the tables turn.
Oliver, UK
Our main problem with the Aussies is that they beat us at the mental game before the Test has even started. Stop listening to them, concentrate and we have a good chance.
Chris, England
Good performances from Trescothick, Vaughan, Butcher and Hussain coupled with Hoggard and Caddick, could make things interesting. Two good performances and two Tests drawn would be enough! COME ON BOYS!
Stacey Smith, United Kingdom