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The Reaper
1 Feb 2009, 14:50
For a while I have though that the weakness of our batting lineup has being the moving ball at pace.

However recently I have begun to believe that the most glaring weakness in our team is against spin.

This is mainly apparent in the blokes who are new to the team and I believe it is a major factor in Marsh's inability to go on with his starts.

South Africa used the ordinary Botha and part timer Duminy to great effect in the ODI series and Harris was suprisingly succesful in the tests.

India cleaned us up.

To me Clarke and Ponting are the only batsmen with any idea of how to play spin (Hussey's form is so bad that he can't play anything)

Is this a result of the lack of spinners in shield cricket? No team save for Victoria have anything resembling a quality spinner (if North is the leading spinner and White the leading leggie you know your shot).

So our batsmen are not being exposed to spin bowling and thus when faced with ordinary spin have no idea.

Chism
1 Feb 2009, 16:10
Reaper you are spot on in your OP and our weakness against a quality spin attack. Whenever the Aussies are going well opposition teams will allways bring on the spinners and it slows us up big time and results in loss of wickets fairly quickly. This is not something that has just happened either Australia has struggled in this area of the game for some time. Have a look at our series results in India lately ( Spinners haven ). 1 series win in the last 40 or so years. The current batting lineup really struggles and i dont think we have one decent player of spin bowling in the team to be honest. The last decent top order batter who was very good at playing spin was Damien Martyn.

I will also add that if Clarke and Ponting are our best hopes when the spinners come on we are F@rkd. Ponting really struggles against spin if you ask me and Clarke is hot and cold when facing spin with no consistency.

I would love to see the Aussie batsmens records and averages against spin bowling if anyone has it, i tried to google it but i didnt find anything meaningfull.

Belnakor
2 Feb 2009, 11:11
Boof Lehmann used to come in the middle orders for the specific reason of playing spin, he was an expert at it.

We had alot of problems in the early 2000s with teams like Sri Lanka in particular using their part timers to slow us down in the middle orders.

The Kat can play spin well, but as you say, its hard for the guys to play spin without having any quality spinners to face domestically and in the nets.

Belnakor
2 Feb 2009, 11:12
This is mainly apparent in the blokes who are new to the team and I believe it is a major factor in Marsh's inability to go on with his starts.


in fairness to Marsh, look at the pitch he plays on every week.

Martyo was just a freak.

aussie1st
2 Feb 2009, 11:25
We've had a spin weakness for a while, either we are getting out to them like now or we can't score a run off them if the game depended on it. Even Symonds at times struggles with spin and hes meant to be a good player of spin.