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Falchoon
22 Dec 2002, 18:28
Selection in the Australian cricket team, cue talking head, here's an idea, select the best 11 players on form.
What's harder than getting in to the Australian cricket team? Getting out of the Australian cricket team.
Does anyone really care?
Falchoon
22 Dec 2002, 18:43
This thread is an anti cricket thread and shouldn't have been moved to a board where cricket fans only abound.
Or where I don't go anyway ;)
dr nick
22 Dec 2002, 19:37
infact it should have been deleted all together. people who dont have the slightest clue what they are talking about shouldnt be given the right to express an opinion, especially if they are too cowardly to post in the appropriate forum.
if you dont like the game, and would rather just slag it off, put a bullet through your head and save yourself the embarassment.
Falchoon
22 Dec 2002, 21:23
Originally posted by nicko18
infact it should have been deleted all together. people who dont have the slightest clue what they are talking about shouldnt be given the right to express an opinion, especially if they are too cowardly to post in the appropriate forum.
if you dont like the game, and would rather just slag it off, put a bullet through your head and save yourself the embarassment.
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Don't have the slighest clue what I'm talking about? How so?
Shouldn't be given the right to express an opinion? Might as well close this site now.
Too cowardly? the post was aimed at none cricket fans, none of whom would post in the cricket forum, it was in the appropriate forum. Cowardly? what, scared of the like of you?
No I'm not a big fan of the game but where did I slag it off? No where did I even make mention of the game, it was the selection process for the Australian team that I made comment on. I stand by my belief that it is more political at present, rather than picking the best team for the match at hand, and the endless speculation in the papers/tv is getting beyond repetitive.
The weakness of the sport at present is the dominance of one team, so much so that the focus is taken away from the game.
The selection process is more soap opera than sport
Originally posted by Falchoon
No I'm not a big fan of the game but where did I slag it off? No where did I even make mention of the game, it was the selection process for the Australian team that I made comment on. I stand by my belief that it is more political at present, rather than picking the best team for the match at hand, and the endless speculation in the papers/tv is getting beyond repetitive.
Political, how? What do you mean?
Falchoon
22 Dec 2002, 21:48
Originally posted by DaveW
Political, how? What do you mean?
Probably the wrong word, but the team selection at present doesn't seem to be about selecting the best possible team for the next match. Probably due to the fact that any of the top 22 Australian players selected randomly would probably beat the current opposition, but I'd personally like to see a greater rotation of the batting spots. By making it so hard to crack the team a)it has to become a disincentive after a while and b)the pressure on any newcomer to make good on what seems to be a one and only chance must be immense.
It's just the fact that better performing players seem to be left out of the team for reasons other than potential performance, and in my mind it seems to be a player a day causing controversy over selection, be it M Waugh, S Waugh, Elliott, Lee, Macgill, Harvey, Slater, Lehmann.
Going away from my original point but selection is becoming a bigger soap opera than the actual performance of the team itself. Probably a ho-hum response to winning so often that will hopefully be rectified by the time the WC comes around.
wagstaff
22 Dec 2002, 22:23
Originally posted by Falchoon
Going away from my original point but selection is becoming a bigger soap opera than the actual performance of the team itself. Probably a ho-hum response to winning so often that will hopefully be rectified by the time the WC comes around.
You're onto something there. A major reason why the soap opera stuff about whether Steve Waugh will be picked for the World Cup has gained such legs is that it has filled the vaccuum caused by the one-day and Test matches this summer being so lacklustre.
larrikin
22 Dec 2002, 23:11
Originally posted by Falchoon
It's just the fact that better performing players seem to be left out of the team for reasons other than potential performance, and in my mind it seems to be a player a day causing controversy over selection, be it M Waugh, S Waugh, Elliott, Lee, Macgill, Harvey, Slater, Lehmann.
The best 11 players are playing cricket in both the ODI team and test team at the minute. Actually if any player is being carried it is our current test captain!!!!
Who are the better performing players who should be in either team and are left out? I can not think of one!!
dr nick
23 Dec 2002, 08:50
Originally posted by Falchoon
but I'd personally like to see a greater rotation of the batting spots.
and we all know the outcome last time we tried this rotation policy.
dr nick
23 Dec 2002, 08:55
Originally posted by Falchoon
Thanks for the thoughtful reply.
Don't have the slighest clue what I'm talking about? How so?
Shouldn't be given the right to express an opinion? Might as well close this site now.
Too cowardly? the post was aimed at none cricket fans, none of whom would post in the cricket forum, it was in the appropriate forum. Cowardly? what, scared of the like of you?
No I'm not a big fan of the game but where did I slag it off? No where did I even make mention of the game, it was the selection process for the Australian team that I made comment on. I stand by my belief that it is more political at present, rather than picking the best team for the match at hand, and the endless speculation in the papers/tv is getting beyond repetitive.
The weakness of the sport at present is the dominance of one team, so much so that the focus is taken away from the game.
The selection process is more soap opera than sport
well it does get on my nerves if someone bags the sport without good reason, especially in a forum so as to avoid opposition from cricket fans. your comment "does anyone really care" is an obvious indication that you do not like the sport, and is slagging it off.
why would you change a winning formula too much, if people are doing a good job, then they deserve to be where they are. you could say the same about adam gilchrist, "whats harder than making the wicketkeeping spot... getting dropped from it"
pure ignorance on your behalf this time.
Falchoon
23 Dec 2002, 17:51
Originally posted by nicko18
well it does get on my nerves if someone bags the sport without good reason, especially in a forum so as to avoid opposition from cricket fans. your comment "does anyone really care" is an obvious indication that you do not like the sport, and is slagging it off.
why would you change a winning formula too much, if people are doing a good job, then they deserve to be where they are. you could say the same about adam gilchrist, "whats harder than making the wicketkeeping spot... getting dropped from it"
pure ignorance on your behalf this time.
Who says I don't like the sport?
Selection in the Australian team was my contention, not the actual sport. If I posted it in the cricket forum it would be trolling, in the general forum I would expect responses similar to mine but oh well, if you have such a thin skin about your game, I'll just have to get over it.
Why change a winning formula? Staleness, innovation and succession planning come to mind.
In actual fact the problem is worse than I initially thought with "A Current Affair" having a poll on the subject of Steve Waughs selection. But to you, I suppose the poll should be moved away from A Current Affair to Inside Cricket?
Gilchrist has actually lead to half of the current issues with selection, that being his batting being so far advanced of what is expected that they can afford to carry underperforming batsman.
Ignorance my arse, I'll again state my contention, the selection process is becoming a soap opera.
A Current Affair Poll :rolleyes:
Falchoon
8 Mar 2006, 23:28
Why change a winning formula? Staleness, innovation and succession planning come to mind.
Ignorance my arse, I'll again state my contention, the selection process is becoming a soap opera.
yeah and yeah
hate to say I told you so
Falchoon
1 Jan 2009, 13:54
and again
the soap opera continues through good and bad, it should outlast neighbours.
Selection in the Australian cricket team, cue talking head, here's an idea, select the best 11 players on form.
What's harder than getting in to the Australian cricket team? Getting out of the Australian cricket team.
Does anyone really care?
The same principle applies to football as well. Players, especially established ones, are shown leeway and kept in the side when out of form.
And you and I well know the amount of discussion which goes on about the selections during the football season.
People do care the composition of the national cricket side and have opinions about how it should be selected. It is sheer ignorance to suggest they don`t. The same way people care about the similar processes involved in football. And the discussion surrounding both could well be described as soap operas.
It is a personal thing as to whether you want to participate in the discussion and offer your own opinion. If you don`t want to participate, that`s fine by me, but I don`t see the need for a sarcastic little piece like the above.
And I don`t even know why you are continuing to hang around the cricket board if the sole reason is to defend your post and you don`t want to participate in the various other discussions here.
i lol'd at how the 4 year bump got no replies :D
Falchoon
1 Jan 2009, 15:36
i lol'd at how the 4 year bump got no replies :D
that's because it's on the cricket board ;)
how's the innovation and succession planning coming along, any 30 year old batsmen we can promote?
Falchoon
1 Jan 2009, 15:37
Fooled me, hahahaha. :D
It's an annual topic