View Full Version : Footy Show.. news about a Bomber Injury...
bipolarbeaR
25 Mar 2009, 19:42
Later on, who do you think it is? Kyle Reimers???
Andrew Welsh?
Nevermind, young bomber. Gumby?
fishguts
25 Mar 2009, 19:44
It's Gumbleton. That's the only youngster Hutchy would do a breaking news on.
Was concerned until Hutchy was mentioned. Phew.
OzBomber
25 Mar 2009, 19:59
Mark McVeigh vs John Newman
It's WWIII.
biglaycock
25 Mar 2009, 20:01
Word has it gentleman, Gumby gone for the year. Hope its not true but i heard the same rumour late this afternoon. If so take the time to heal young man and come back as the player all bomber fans hope you will be.
Skeeta Olly
25 Mar 2009, 20:02
Mark McVeigh vs John Newman
It's WWIII.
Current Tally
Spike 1 - Newman 0
Newman 1 - Skipworth - 0:p
The Donners
25 Mar 2009, 20:03
Mark McVeigh vs John Newman
It's WWIII.
I can't believe I'm watching the tripe... glad the only night I'll probably watch it this year McVeigh is on, he was very touchy when Sam was rubbishing the Dons.
I think Sam has taken the NAB Cup way too seriously!
The Donners
25 Mar 2009, 20:06
Word has it gentleman, Gumby gone for the year. Hope its not true but i heard the same rumour late this afternoon. If so take the time to heal young man and come back as the player all bomber fans hope you will be.
Knights came out in the media last night and tentatively said 3-6 weeks, how in the space of 24 hours can it go from 3-6 weeks to a full season!
I'll be absolutely bleeding if this rumour is true!!! :mad:
bipolarbeaR
25 Mar 2009, 20:07
Well, we are barely heard of at the moment, remember first round when we smashed the Roos? Can you remember the "OMG Essendon are going to beat the Cats!?" It amazes me how quickly we change our minds.
OzBomber
25 Mar 2009, 20:07
****, it better not be the Gumby. If so, I think he'll have to be de-listed if that's the case. I'm not sure if we can keep him on our list. I know he's got so much talent, but it's put to waste if you can't get on the field.
The poor rotten luck of the bloke.
Would be an even bigger waste delisiting someone who has an another year on his contract....
The Donners
25 Mar 2009, 20:16
Current Tally
Spike 2 - Newman 0
Newman 1 - Skipworth - 0:p
efa :thumbsu:
bipolarbeaR
25 Mar 2009, 20:16
He won't be delisted haha!
McVeigh 1 - 0 Sam's Penis
biglaycock
25 Mar 2009, 20:19
Would be an even bigger waste delisiting someone who has an another year on his contract....
Exactly right, my god i hope i'm wrong but my source is reasonably reliable. If it is true i hope everyone is patient with the young man as he not only has bucket loads of potential but from first hand experience seems a quality young man.
Skeeta Olly
25 Mar 2009, 20:19
He won't be delisted haha!
McVeigh 1 - 0 Sam's Penis
efa :thumbsu:
Heh, quality.
OzBomber
25 Mar 2009, 20:52
Gumby may require back surgery. :(
Looking at around 12 weeks if they choose surgery.
These injurys are getting annoying.. not his fault but jeez....
nicko99
25 Mar 2009, 20:58
so is this injury the reason why he has had his hamstring problems or something new?
Lance Uppercut
25 Mar 2009, 21:00
meh, big deal. 12 weeks is not a whole season. If it gets him right, do it. Shit happens. True, Gumby must have chucked a hand-grenade into a hall of mirrors, but no point losing the faith.
He'll get there
Gus2Gumby
25 Mar 2009, 21:00
And much as i want to see him play. Have the surgery, get it sorted now and play the 2nd half of 2009.
I know we want him to play but we don't NEED him this year.
Do it properly the first time, he still has plenty of footy ahead of him.
Big Blow Hard
25 Mar 2009, 21:02
so is this injury the reason why he has had his hamstring problems or something new?
Most probably a contributing factor. Especially on a lad who is still growing.
Guess we need a poll on should we take the rest approach and hope it settles, or the surgery option.
Might be best to do the op, and get it sorted once and for all. (hopefully)
Strike Swiftly
25 Mar 2009, 21:02
Must have been the Motel incident. That's where he put his back out.
Lance Uppercut
25 Mar 2009, 21:12
Must have been the Motel incident. That's where he put his back out.
must have got some result then!
Daytripper
25 Mar 2009, 21:16
It wouldn't be just 12 weeks - at least 2 weeks fitness training and then probably 3-4 weeks at Bendigo.
Looking at Rd 17/18 at best.
I'd be tempted to play him if its not going to get much worse and get the surgery done at the end of the year.
Don't know why this wasn't picked up during the off season - these sorts of things shouldn't be 'discovered' just when the season starts especially with his history.
Lance Uppercut
25 Mar 2009, 21:25
Don't know why this wasn't picked up during the off season - these sorts of things shouldn't be 'discovered' just when the season starts especially with his history.
this is what I'm wondering too, to be honest :(
Big Blow Hard
25 Mar 2009, 21:27
It wouldn't be just 12 weeks - at least 2 weeks fitness training and then probably 3-4 weeks at Bendigo.
Looking at Rd 17/18 at best.
I'd be tempted to play him if its not going to get much worse and get the surgery done at the end of the year.
Don't know why this wasn't picked up during the off season - these sorts of things shouldn't be 'discovered' just when the season starts especially with his history.
Probably because he had gotten through months of training and a match or two without incident before it flared up. There was no indication this would happen. It seemed like thing were going great guns.
Daytripper
25 Mar 2009, 21:32
Probably because he had gotten through months of training and a match or two without incident before it flared up. There was no indication this would happen. It seemed like thing were going great guns.
He's had the same type of injury for nearly 18 months. Its hardly a surprise it happened again.
abers47
25 Mar 2009, 21:33
Poor guy - must be absolutely devestated! :thumbsd:
Just wondering, did anyone from the club (IE Spike) say the surgery may be required? Or has Hutchy just said so?
Big Blow Hard
25 Mar 2009, 21:48
He's had the same type of injury for nearly 18 months. Its hardly a surprise it happened again.
Sure, but do you think they haven't done scans before? Obviously this is something that has not shown up before, and has certainly not been considered the reason for his Hamstring injuries. When a player gets through three months of fitness training, which includes alot of massages of the back and spine by physios etc, and has shown no signs of pain or discomfort in the back, why would you anticipate a back problem?
I love that there are som many medical experts on here who could obviously do a better job than the highly trained medical staff we employ.
Everything is so obvious to some peple on here, even if they hav no clue what the club doctors have looked at and considered as far as Gumby's injury goes.
kelvin_sheedy
25 Mar 2009, 21:59
It wouldn't be just 12 weeks - at least 2 weeks fitness training and then probably 3-4 weeks at Bendigo.
Looking at Rd 17/18 at best.
I'd be tempted to play him if its not going to get much worse and get the surgery done at the end of the year.
Don't know why this wasn't picked up during the off season - these sorts of things shouldn't be 'discovered' just when the season starts especially with his history.
Daytripper... one of the few that makes any sense around here.
I'm pretty sure Gumby has been out of action for a month now. What's taking so long to get this thing moving and diagnosed? Winderlich has had similar issues.. surely there were some tell tale signs.
Rest probably means he won't get it right. The way it was alluded to by all on the show was that he had no other choice but surgery.
If it's a 12 week thing then I'd be happy for him to get it right and play the last 6 games at Bendigo.
Another day, another long term problem.
And much as i want to see him play. Have the surgery, get it sorted now and play the 2nd half of 2009.
I know we want him to play but we don't NEED him this year.
Do it properly the first time, he still has plenty of footy ahead of him.
My sentiments exactly, As long as he gets his body right, it doesn't faze me how many games he plays. I'm happy with him being eased through the VFL, getting some confidence and then playing the last 3 or 4 rounds of the year.
2011-2014 is when we're going to NEED Gumby
He's had the same type of injury for nearly 18 months. Its hardly a surprise it happened again.
Rubbish.
The hammy injury he had in 2007 was actually a torn hammy and it took a while to get it right. He suffered a couple of minor hammy problems later in the season as well but they where muscle problems.
It wouldn't be just 12 weeks - at least 2 weeks fitness training and then probably 3-4 weeks at Bendigo.
Looking at Rd 17/18 at best.
I'd be tempted to play him if its not going to get much worse and get the surgery done at the end of the year.
Don't know why this wasn't picked up during the off season - these sorts of things shouldn't be 'discovered' just when the season starts especially with his history.
The reason it was not picked up in the off season is that he only suffered the tightness again 4 or 5 weeks ago. In a pre season you can often get muscle tightness that eases when you are given a week or so of rest.
You have no real experience with disc injuries do you ? they are not a simple black and white diagnosis. Trust me over the last three years and three operations i know a lot about it.
If Gumby does not complain of a sore back as well and along with the fact that the initial MRI scans do not always show the problem , it is hard to make an instant diagnosis.
The fact of the metter is he has had to see two surgeons before a difinitive answer has been given. Despite having to have three operations my initial injury was only called a minor disc buldge and i was only given time of work after it was still no good after 3 weeks of light duties. Even then i was back at work after 3 months and i worked for just under 6 months before it reall played up again.
Since then i have had three opps so as you can see it is not an easy thing to pick up.
Daytripper... one of the few that makes any sense around here.
I'm pretty sure Gumby has been out of action for a month now. What's taking so long to get this thing moving and diagnosed? Winderlich has had similar issues.. surely there were some tell tale signs.
Rest probably means he won't get it right. The way it was alluded to by all on the show was that he had no other choice but surgery.
If it's a 12 week thing then I'd be happy for him to get it right and play the last 6 games at Bendigo.
Another day, another long term problem.
Another who has an opinion despite not knowing anything about the problem.
Yep Winders had the same problem and he did not have surgery on it straight away for the same reason. It is not a simple case of going and having the scans done and a 100% accurate diagnosis coming from it.
It takes 4 or 5 weeks becasue it is often hard to determine the exact extent of the injury when it comes to disc problems.
Big Blow Hard
25 Mar 2009, 22:06
Rubbish.
The hammy injury he had in 2007 was actually a torn hammy and it took a while to get it right. He suffered a couple of minor hammy problems later in the season as well but they where muscle problems.
The reason it was not picked up in the off season is that he only suffered the tightness again 4 or 5 weeks ago. In a pre season you can often get muscle tightness that eases when you are given a week or so of rest.
You have no real experience with disc injuries do you ? they are not a simple black and white diagnosis. Trust me over the last three years and three operations i know a lot about it.
If Gumby does not complain of a sore back as well and along with the fact that the initial MRI scans do not always show the problem , it is hard to make an instant diagnosis.
The fact of the metter is he has had to see two surgeons before a difinitive answer has been given. Despite having to have three operations my initial injury was only called a minor disc buldge and i was only given time of work after it was still no good after 3 weeks of light duties. Even then i was back at work after 3 months and i worked for just under 6 months before it reall played up again.
Since then i have had three opps so as you can see it is not an easy thing to pick up.
Thankyou Ant555. Thats sort of what I was trying to get at. you have a much more elequant way of posting what you mean to say, lol. :thumbsu:
Of course, and sadly enough for you, being able to draw on personal experience helps.
Hope you are recovering well.
kelvin_sheedy
25 Mar 2009, 22:15
Another who has an opinion despite not knowing anything about the problem.
Yep Winders had the same problem and he did not have surgery on it straight away for the same reason. It is not a simple case of going and having the scans done and a 100% accurate diagnosis coming from it.
It takes 4 or 5 weeks becasue it is often hard to determine the exact extent of the injury when it comes to disc problems.
Time is money.
We are in the business of developing talent.
It's not good enough to waste a month trying to diagnose something. By the time surgery happens it will be 6+ weeks from initial problem.
Big Blow Hard
25 Mar 2009, 22:22
Time is money.
We are in the business of developing talent.
It's not good enough to waste a month trying to diagnose something. By the time surgery happens it will be 6+ weeks from initial problem.
Did you not understand a single thing that Ant555 wrote?
Developing talent is only a part of the bussiness we are in, as you put it.
Consider it nurturing an investment. If you make a rash decision now you will regret it more in the long run. You are obviously a qualified back specialist as well Kelvin. Perhaps you should do something useful and offer your services to the club, instead of criticising. :mad:
Time is money.
We are in the business of developing talent.
It's not good enough to waste a month trying to diagnose something. By the time surgery happens it will be 6+ weeks from initial problem.
Well geez Kelvin what can we do ?
If it is a general problem world wide that doctors have with definitivly diagnosing the problem what can the EFC do about it ?
Find Mr Magic wand ? Belive in Crystal balls ?
FFS. I had my surgery done by one of the best surgeons in Melbourne and he would not just rush in and say you have problem "X" we have to operate. Did you even bother to read what i posted in reply to Daytripper ?
It simply is not just a matter of going and getting a scan done and then making an instant diagnosis.
Maybe you had better dig out your magic wand and make it possible for all doctors to find these problems in a couple of days :rolleyes:
bomba4eva
25 Mar 2009, 22:44
1st year. Yeah, I'll come out and say that it is still early and he has time.
2nd year. Sickening feeling to know he has missed out on 40 games of AFL due to injury but still optimistic that he will get over his injury problems.
3rd year. Pessimism covers my body like a cancer. Top picks are what separate you from the rest of the pack. This kid may well never get his body right:mad:
Pevers-Legend
25 Mar 2009, 22:57
Wellman had a bulging disc as a kid - and he got over it and had a succssful career.
And I have bulging disc - it didn't slowly appear - it just happened - I went for a run one day and my back f'ing hurt. That was it for me for sports. Surgery is no given.
Muppets in the media always seem to be medical experts and make the uniformed think everything is just a process and it is blindingly obvious with hindsight.
I feel really sorry for him - it is something he will have for the rest of his life. Backs don't heal 00%, but you can with prof help still be super active.
Rather than get schitty - why not wish him the best of luck - this is a curel injury and I wouldn't wish it on anyone.
Here_we_come
25 Mar 2009, 23:11
This news isn't that bad.
At least now they know the source of the problem, will get to the bottom of it, and get it fixed.
A few good games in the latter half of the season is all it will take for everyone to forget about his history of injury.
Ant555
Is it possible for Gumbleton to play with this injury !
That means - rest for 3 or 4 weeks - play 3 or 4 weeks - then rest for 3 or 4 weeks.
Could he be nursed through this season and then have an operation ?
Kelvin
Gumbleton should think himself lucky, that there has been a confirmed diagnosis.
I can assure you that Gumbleton would be waiting the rest of his life for a diagnosis.
Sir James
26 Mar 2009, 00:03
Ohh god back surgery........ Ive had it, didn't like it, long recovery.
I wish him all the best on a speedy recovery:thumbsu:
SirJimi05
26 Mar 2009, 01:18
Time is money.
We are in the business of developing talent.
It's not good enough to waste a month trying to diagnose something. By the time surgery happens it will be 6+ weeks from initial problem.
You've seriously lost the plot Kelvin.:rolleyes:
stay true
26 Mar 2009, 01:52
Poor kid can't take a trick. :(
Having said that, the career over business that some are hinting at is premature. Winderlich had similar problems last year yeah? I know that these injuries are never clear cut but it gives me hope that Gumby can recover and return strongly.
Like someone mentioned earlier in the thread, just get behind the kid rather than bitch about not getting Selwood or whatever. He's part of OUR club so SUPPORT him ffs.