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Sigmund
29 Mar 2009, 17:58
Post thoughts here...
Ins: Bellchambers
Outs: Tough call.....not sure as yet.. every player really should get at least 2 games
I might make Zaka play 2 good games for Bendigo before getting a run
DonMania#5
29 Mar 2009, 17:59
Depends on who is fit to play..
Ben the Gooner
29 Mar 2009, 18:00
OUT: Dempsey, Houli, Pears
IN: Zaharakis, Myers, Bellchambers
Dempsey and Houli out due to their lack of defensive pressure. Pears unlucky, but someone needs to make way for the ruckman. If Bellchambers is still injured, then Pears stays. If Myers isn't ready, Jetta comes in. I'm assuming McVeigh isn't ready, because if he was, he'd be the first in.
DapperDon
29 Mar 2009, 18:05
Out: Dyson, Pears (not on performance, just team balance)
In: Bellchambers, Myers (McVeigh first if fit)
Close: Houli, Dempsey, but i'd give them another run before cutting too many.
Smyth94
29 Mar 2009, 18:08
INS: McVeigh (assuming he gets up), Zaharakis, Bellchambers
Houli and Neagle definite outs...Houli needs to improve his decision making if he ever wants to become a good player - Neagle just doesn't get enough of the footy.
warney7
29 Mar 2009, 18:11
I would only bring in players with previous experience.
So we may well see the inclusion of Myers and McVeigh at the expense of players like Pears and Dyson.
To be honest I don't think Houli deserves to hold his spot, but with him in my DT and SC sides, I'd like to see him picked again.
Personally I'd prefer Essendon to choose an extra midfielder over Bellchambers, because Sandilands is going to get 80% of the hitouts anyway.
Possible INS: Bellchambers, Zaharakis, Jetta, McVeigh, Myers
Possible OUTS: Pears, Dyson, Neagle, Houli
dave_27
29 Mar 2009, 18:18
I was very disappointed with Houli.
fishguts
29 Mar 2009, 18:37
Ok, Slattery really shouldn't be in the team. His defensive ability (or lack of) is killing this team.
Neagle looks very under done and will most likely keep his place, whether that's on merit though...
Houli was very accountable and looked rusty. I'd give him a game or two in the Magoo's, make him earn his place.
Dyson was good today, will keep his place.
Outs: Slattery, Houli
In: Zaharakis McVeigh/Myers/Jetta
Ben the Gooner
29 Mar 2009, 18:38
Ok, Slattery really shouldn't be in the team. His defensive ability (or lack of) is killing this team.
So who plays back pocket?
Houli was very accountable and looked rusty. I'd give him a game or two in the Magoo's, make him earn his place.
:confused:
Dyson was good today, will keep his place.
Average.
fishguts
29 Mar 2009, 18:42
So who plays back pocket?
Pears. Freo thank **** have far less damaging forwards compared to the motlops, rodans e.t.c Even if you still feel uneasy about that, Attkinson would be a better option. Dyson also showed he could plug a hole.
:confused:
Typo: Unaccountable
Average.
He did enough to retain his place. Didn't star but did enough. Was surprisingly good as a back pocket.
Those calling for Dyson as an out is it becasue you don't rate him or is it on his game today ?
I don't rate him but he was ok as a defender today. There where worse than him.
Naegle has to go and find some form . You can not get a couple of disposals drop marks and play from behind all day and stay in the side. He has been the same all pre season.
Give Ryder a run up forward!
No way Dyson could be dropped. Another fairly good game today, he has definitely lifted his attack on the ball this year.
citizen-erased
29 Mar 2009, 18:58
IN: Atkinson (ryder to ruck/forward line), Jetta/McVeigh/Myers (either one)
Out: Lucas, Dempsey.
Mcphee & Ryder to half forward line. Lloyd to FF.
Ben the Gooner
29 Mar 2009, 18:59
He did enough to retain his place. Didn't star but did enough. Was surprisingly good as a back pocket.
Pears isn't a back pocket.
Agree on Houli.
Dyson wasn't "good", but wasn't bad enough to be dropped.
stay true
29 Mar 2009, 19:02
Yeah I agree that Dyson should probably keep his spot. Houli's disposal was pretty bad in general. The amount of times he put his team mates under pressure with silly handballs was no good.
Agree with Ant about Neagle being dropped but I don't think Knights will drop him.
Jetta would have been much more useful today though.
Wahooti Fandango
29 Mar 2009, 19:03
Out: Houli, Neagle
In: Zaharakis, Bellchambers
As ant suggested we can play Ryder up forward if we want to change it up and Scotty can always drop back into defence. Lucas was not as bad as some people think.
fishguts
29 Mar 2009, 19:03
Pears isn't a back pocket.
Agree on Houli.
Dyson wasn't "good", but wasn't bad enough to be dropped.
Pears is a back pocket. Sure he played as a rebounding defender on the HBF today, but generally, he is a back pocket. He should be taking the 3rd forward, He should take Murphy next week, provided Murphy retains his spot.
Dyson was good in a very foreign position. He'll definitely retain his spot.
Ben the Gooner
29 Mar 2009, 19:05
Pears is a key defender. By back pocket I mean someone who'll play on Motlop, Milne, Betts etc.
Slattery is the best back pocket we have. For better or worse, that's where we're at.
Wahooti Fandango
29 Mar 2009, 19:09
Pears is a back pocket. Sure he played as a rebounding defender on the HBF today, but generally, he is a back pocket. He should be taking the 3rd forward, He should take Murphy next week, provided Murphy retains his spot.
Dyson was good in a very foreign position. He'll definitely retain his spot.
I made this point in another thread. Maybe back pocket is his position.
I made this point in another thread. Maybe back pocket is his position.
There certainly is a spot available for the small defender role, it might help his game if he has to follow a player as his starting point.
As for selection well i can't believe people want to drop Pears. I'd play him and Hurley all year down there in defence. I think Ryder is better suited in a roaming role, even deep forward on occasions.
Wahooti Fandango
29 Mar 2009, 19:31
There certainly is a spot available for the small defender role, it might help his game if he has to follow a player as his starting point.
As for selection well i can't believe people want to drop Pears. I'd play him and Hurley all year down there in defence. I think Ryder is better suited in a roaming role, even deep forward on occasions.
I also think Pears was good today. I would drop Slattery ahead of Pears.
Ins: Jetta, Bellchambers (and McVeigh and Myers hopefully)
Outs: Dyson and Slattery.
I completely disagree with those wanting Dempsey and Houli out. Dempsey had a reasonable game and has tremendous potential. He is a classy player and class is something we do not have much of at the moment. Houli had a bad game but is worth persisting with.
Dyson and Slattery did not have terrible games but both regularly make mistakes and turn the ball over. This is not likely to change. I think a backline containing Dyson and Slattery is a little dangerous with their turnovers.
Jetta will make our forward line more dangerous. I thought Davey was easily our most effective (half) forward because of the constant pressure he put on opponents. Although Jetta may not be as good as Davey he is the type of player that is very valuable.
fishguts
29 Mar 2009, 19:42
Pears is a key defender. By back pocket I mean someone who'll play on Motlop, Milne, Betts etc.
Slattery is the best back pocket we have. For better or worse, that's where we're at.
Yes, eventually he should be a Key Defender. But for the time being he's quite capable of playing on your Motlops, Milnes and Betts. I'd honestly prefer Attkinson but Pears can do the job.
Sigmund
29 Mar 2009, 19:47
Yes, eventually he should be a Key Defender. But for the time being he's quite capable of playing on your Motlops, Milnes and Betts. I'd honestly prefer Attkinson but Pears can do the job.
Agree with those supporting Pears' retention.... I think Pears has sig more upside than Atkinson, but Atkinson perhaps better option for crumbing type forwards. Third tall defender is the ideal position for Tayte at this point in time
Give Ryder a run up forward!I actually agree with you.
Based on today, Hurley has the ability to help out down back and release Ryder, at least in bursts. He could be a 3-goal a game forward, I believe.
upanddown
29 Mar 2009, 20:58
Out: Houli, Neagle
In: Zaharakis, Bellchambers
As ant suggested we can play Ryder up forward if we want to change it up and Scotty can always drop back into defence. Lucas was not as bad as some people think.
Ryder would cause some trouble up forward. He has a bloody straight kick as well straightest i have seen. His leap with a be a factor as well.
upanddown
29 Mar 2009, 20:59
I also think Pears was good today. I would drop Slattery ahead of Pears.
Pears peformance was second to none. He also nearly broke Eberts wrist which is a postive.
Longy413
29 Mar 2009, 21:05
Naegle has to go and find some form . You can not get a couple of disposals drop marks and play from behind all day and stay in the side. He has been the same all pre season.
Then in that case, Lucas should go as well.
Dyson and Slattery did not have terrible games but both regularly make mistakes and turn the ball over. This is not likely to change. I think a backline containing Dyson and Slattery is a little dangerous with their turnovers.
I stand to be corrected, but I don't recall a Slattery turnover today.
He played a good game.
Why would we bring Bellchambers in to ruck against Sandilands?
I would have though Ryder is our best option against him, because he can jump over him.
He played a good game.
Your idea of a good game and mine must be different.
He does play a difficult position but he is regularly beaten and was again today.
His opponent got 17 possessions, took 8 marks and kicked 2.2, which for a small forward pocket are large numbers.
He was soundly beaten but at least he didn't give away any stupid free kicks.
I know you either like him or don't mind him and he does try his guts out but he is a very very average footballer.
I don't think many changes are needed and i wouldn't mind Ryder playing forward as with Fletch, Hurley and Pears we should be ok.
I will be a bit radical in my team selection.
In - Bellchambers
Out - Neagle
We need Bellchambers to play as we were forced to sacrifice Hille and Ryder today. You cant expect Hiile to ruck as much as today and Ryder cant pinch hit in the ruck and then go back to defence. It is crazy.
Neagle doesn't give us enough and needs 5 0r 6 consistent games at Bendigo.
I would move Hurley or Pears up forward and stabilise Ryder is defence.
I am unsure about Pears capability up forward but Hurley has played witrh success up forward in the TAC CUP.
Longy413
29 Mar 2009, 21:24
His opponent?
He played on a variety of opponents.
His opponent?
He played on a variety of opponents.
Well if that was in fact true i will stand corrected but appeared to me on TV he was on Ebert for at least the majority of the time.
bretto462
29 Mar 2009, 21:47
Hey guys, i think zaha has to get his chance against freo. Heard on SEN today that he had 32 touches and kicked 7 goals against Geelong in the VFL yesterday. I think that kind of form has to be rewarded.
IN: Jetta Atkinson
Out: Monfries Dyson
no change, barring injury.
Give them all a second game before making any changes.
However....
If there is going to be a change Bellchambers in, and out would depend on the Fremantle side.
mark1881
30 Mar 2009, 11:56
In: Bellchambers, Zaharakis
Out: Pears, Dyson
Daytripper
30 Mar 2009, 12:06
Its not just a matter of dropping the worst player and bringing in the best player from the twos. We have to consider who we are playing.
Fremantle have 3 key forwards (Pavlich, Tarrant and Murphy), all of whom play a roaming role.
I would suggest that Ryder would get Pavlich outside the goalsquare, Fletcher would play within the goalsquare and McPhee/Hurley would take the other tall.
That doesn't leave a spot for Pears unfortunately.
Hille will need help against Sandilands and therefore Bell-Chambers should be an inclusion. It may even turn out to be a plus as Sandilands's back-up is Kepler who would be exploitable by some tall rucks at stoppages.
I'd like to see Zaharakis prove himself again for Bendigo. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Don't know if Leroy is suited to Telstra. Seems to be more of a big ground player. Houli is worth persevering with unless McVeigh is fit.
In : Bellchambers
Out : Pears
dave_27
30 Mar 2009, 12:38
Its not just a matter of dropping the worst player and bringing in the best player from the twos. We have to consider who we are playing.
Fremantle have 3 key forwards (Pavlich, Tarrant and Murphy), all of whom play a roaming role.
I would suggest that Ryder would get Pavlich outside the goalsquare, Fletcher would play within the goalsquare and McPhee/Hurley would take the other tall.
That doesn't leave a spot for Pears unfortunately.
Hille will need help against Sandilands and therefore Bell-Chambers should be an inclusion. It may even turn out to be a plus as Sandilands's back-up is Kepler who would be exploitable by some tall rucks at stoppages.
In : Bellchambers
Out : Pears
Kepler Bradley will expose Bellchambers around the ground something shocking.
I really dont see a need for him to play or for Ryder to play down back.
Tarrant played down back (and did pretty well) last night on Brad Johnson so I think we can ignore him as a forward option.
I really dont see why Hurley and Pears cant take Mcpharlin and Murphy with Fletcher on Pavlich.
Ryder forward and back up ruck.
bomberstomake8
30 Mar 2009, 12:39
Its not just a matter of dropping the worst player and bringing in the best player from the twos. We have to consider who we are playing.
Fremantle have 3 key forwards (Pavlich, Tarrant and Murphy), all of whom play a roaming role.
I would suggest that Ryder would get Pavlich outside the goalsquare, Fletcher would play within the goalsquare and McPhee/Hurley would take the other tall.
That doesn't leave a spot for Pears unfortunately.
Hille will need help against Sandilands and therefore Bell-Chambers should be an inclusion. It may even turn out to be a plus as Sandilands's back-up is Kepler who would be exploitable by some tall rucks at stoppages.
I'd like to see Zaharakis prove himself again for Bendigo. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Don't know if Leroy is suited to Telstra. Seems to be more of a big ground player. Houli is worth persevering with unless McVeigh is fit.
In : Bellchambers
Out : Pears
didnt mcveigh say he would be back to play against freo?
if so
In: Mcveigh, bellchambers
Out: neagle, houli
play pears hurley and fletcher as the talls down back, hille and bellchambers in the ruck. play ryder forward for pretty much the whole match i think unless we are having issues in defence, our main issue was when the ball hit the ground in attack they ran it out easily, there was one passage of play in the small time ryder is forward that he didnt take the mark but when the ball hit the ground he made 2nd and 3rd efforts and caused other scoring chances, thats what we need.
Boucks09
30 Mar 2009, 13:03
I don't believe that Bellchambers was dropped for 'tactical' reasons. As if we would drop a ruckman against one of the best ruck duos in the competition so that we could move our CHB to pinch hit all over the ground and have Pears who is not match fit play KPD. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.
So Bellchambers would be an automatic inclusion against Fremantle if fit and Pears would go out. Tayte will get his chances this year but just needs some more games under his belt and doesn't suit current team balance; Ryder needs to be left in one position at that is currently CHB for him until Pears/Daniher is ready.
I'm worried about Neagle as all his preseason games have been the same so far, however Knights is committed to playing tall down forward and Etihad Stadium will suit that style of play so he will keep his spot...for now. It will also mean that Fremantle will have to rely on Tarrant playing on a tall and perhaps even reduce the possibilty of moving McPharlin up forward which is a positive for us.
Dyson deserves to keep his spot. He was ok yesterday and whilst I'm not a fan you can't drop him yet.
The only players who I would look at perhaps coming into the side are Jetta and Zaharakis (unless McVeigh comes up which would be doubtful). They will be named in the squad with Dempsey and Houli potentials to be dropped. Both looked a bit out of sorts yesterday and with Dyson looking ok down back, he could play in Dempsey's role, allowing for us to bring in a midfielder and small forward.
I think both Dempsey and Houli could be in our best 22 by the end of the year but both appear to be lacking confidence and just do not exert enough defensive pressure at the moment (3 and 0 tackles respectively). Saying that I would expect only one of Dempsey or Houli to be dropped this week with Houli the likely candidate for Jetta. Zaha must of had a blinder but for team balance Jetta is a better fit and played his best ever game against Fremantle last year. Zaharakis will get his chance don't stress...but lets see him have a couple of great games and really put some pressure on the likes of Lonergan, Winderlich and Dempsey.
Ins: Bellchambers, Jetta
Outs: Pears, Houli
kelvin_sheedy
30 Mar 2009, 13:05
Ins : McVeigh(if fit), Jetta
Outs : Dyson, Neagle/Lucas
Play Ryder ruck/fwd and defense if he needs to go down there. We could always switch Hurley fwd and give him a taste for a bit if need be.
I think structure-wise, Monfries has to be an out, if he is or not remains to be seen.
We got killed at ground level in the forward line, we need genuine crumbers and Monfries clearly isnt. To me, he is a short lead up player. He doesnt fit. Id play Jetta or perhaps Zaharakis if he is that type, with a ground level, crumbing mandate.
McVeigh is a wait and see, and I would keep Pears to free Ryder to be the forward/back up ruckman.
Dyson would be my other out, assuming McVeigh and one of Jetta/Zaharakis come in.
Big Scottknowsall
30 Mar 2009, 13:23
Those calling for Dyson as an out is it becasue you don't rate him or is it on his game today ?
I don't rate him but he was ok as a defender today. There where worse than him.
Naegle has to go and find some form . You can not get a couple of disposals drop marks and play from behind all day and stay in the side. He has been the same all pre season.
Give Ryder a run up forward!
Dyson got better as the game moved forward, and he really comes in to it for us when the team is up and running with momentum. He still didn't commit to several contests I tihnk he should of...but I do think he deserves another go, there were worse, and his offensive work coming off the half back line will be important moving forward.
He just needs to get some nuts...
I'd be happy for Neagle to go...this crap of playing the youngsters in the league team with the stablished players to "learn" is a load of rubbish for mine. Get Lloyd back to full forward, I find it partially disrespectful that he is being played all over the place. Neagle out for sure, kick a couple of bags in the two's and you're back in.
It's going to be tough for the selectors when McV is fit, Myers has had a couple of runs in the two's, and if Zaka keeps going. Also, the likes of Nash, Atkinson, Jetta SHOULD be applying weekly selection pressure to the Dyson's of the team...the call will need to be made on several players, and Dyson remains one of those.
For next week, I'd like to see:
IN - Bellchambers
OUT - Neagle
kelvin_sheedy
30 Mar 2009, 13:30
I think structure-wise, Monfries has to be an out, if he is or not remains to be seen.
We got killed at ground level in the forward line, we need genuine crumbers and Monfries clearly isnt. To me, he is a short lead up player. He doesnt fit. Id play Jetta or perhaps Zaharakis if he is that type, with a ground level, crumbing mandate.
McVeigh is a wait and see, and I would keep Pears to free Ryder to be the forward/back up ruckman.
Dyson would be my other out, assuming McVeigh and one of Jetta/Zaharakis come in.
Good point. I forgot about Monfries. He's a smaller version of Lloyd and Lucas and gives us no zip.
rainman06
30 Mar 2009, 13:47
If everyone keeps insisting that Ryder should be played as a forward, why does Bellchambers need to come in then? Surely Ryder could ruck for 25 % of the game to give Hille a chop out.
I dont know if i can make a change. I would like to see Jetta or Zaharakis do some crumbing up forward but i think Neagle is worth another chance - he should get a bit more space against Fremantle and we should be able to lift our forward delivery at the T Dome. Only other option would be to drop Houli but again IMO he is worth his spot in the 22 again this week.
Of the other players who are being suggested to be left out.....
Monfries -Didnt play well but he has earnt the allowance of at least one bad game before he gets dropped
Pears -Will be needed if Ryder is the 2nd ruckman and i thought he was handy yesterday anyway
Dyson -Actually played pretty well and only the haters would want to see him dropped, and Knights isnt one of them
Lucas - Dont be stupid
rioli brownlow
30 Mar 2009, 14:17
If everyone keeps insisting that Ryder should be played as a forward, why does Bellchambers need to come in then? Surely Ryder could ruck for 25 % of the game to give Hille a chop out.
I dont know if i can make a change. I would like to see Jetta or Zaharakis do some crumbing up forward but i think Neagle is worth another chance - he should get a bit more space against Fremantle and we should be able to lift our forward delivery at the T Dome. Only other option would be to drop Houli but again IMO he is worth his spot in the 22 again this week.
Of the other players who are being suggested to be left out.....
Monfries -Didnt play well but he has earnt the allowance of at least one bad game before he gets dropped
Pears -Will be needed if Ryder is the 2nd ruckman and i thought he was handy yesterday anyway
Dyson -Actually played pretty well and only the haters would want to see him dropped, and Knights isnt one of them
Lucas - Dont be stupid
i would go with .
slattery,hurley,pears
dempsey,fletcher,windelich
lovett,watson,stanton
monfries,lucas,mcphee
davey,lloyd,ryder
hille,skipworth,lonergan
dyson,zaka,houli,hocking
Mr Mosquito
30 Mar 2009, 14:22
i would go with .
slattery,hurley,pears
dempsey,fletcher,windelich
lovett,watson,stanton
monfries,lucas,mcphee
davey,lloyd,ryder
hille,skipworth,lonergan
dyson,zaka,houli,hocking
DON'T HATE IT!
Is an ideal game to experiment with this line up with freo only having 1 MAJOR key forward and being slightly thin in defensive KPP's
Zaka must get a run
Then in that case, Lucas should go as well.
You could argue that point.
Neagle has now played 4 games this year and had no more than 2 disposals in any of them. I just can not see any benifit for him playing seniors if he keeps getting low returns.
IMO i think he would be better playing for Bendigo and getting 10 to 15 touches and kicking a few goals at this stage.
Its not just a matter of dropping the worst player and bringing in the best player from the twos. We have to consider who we are playing.
Fremantle have 3 key forwards (Pavlich, Tarrant and Murphy), all of whom play a roaming role.
I would suggest that Ryder would get Pavlich outside the goalsquare, Fletcher would play within the goalsquare and McPhee/Hurley would take the other tall.
That doesn't leave a spot for Pears unfortunately.
Hille will need help against Sandilands and therefore Bell-Chambers should be an inclusion. It may even turn out to be a plus as Sandilands's back-up is Kepler who would be exploitable by some tall rucks at stoppages.
I'd like to see Zaharakis prove himself again for Bendigo. One swallow doesn't make a summer. Don't know if Leroy is suited to Telstra. Seems to be more of a big ground player. Houli is worth persevering with unless McVeigh is fit.
In : Bellchambers
Out : Pears
Did not see all of the game last night but the parts i watched Tarrant was playing in defence.
bomber39
30 Mar 2009, 14:56
Slattery really struggles in my opinion. We would be better off having Johnson run around in that back pocket still. Neagle i feel needs to stay in the team, he will be much better this week at the dome. Houli probably the needs a run in twos, however Demps needs to play this week i feel. Once again for the reason its at the dome and he needs to play seniors.
Out: Slattery, Houli
In: Mcveigh (if fit), If not Myers and Jetta.
This would allow Dyson to be trialled as a backmen and Myers to start on the wing.
Big Jim
30 Mar 2009, 17:34
Out: Neagle.
In: Zaharakis.
Neagle looked slow and out of depth on the weekend, and I don't believe him and Lucas can't work. Zaharakis in after what appears as a stunning game on the weekend. If McVeigh is fit, he walks straight in.
hird+lloyd=legends
30 Mar 2009, 18:09
Knights wont drop Neagle as he wants to get games into him and so he shouldnt. he did nothing and kicked 1 goal, instead of droping him we should keep playing him and see if he can find some form in the senoirs. Later on in the year if he is struggling then we might have to give him a spell down in the VFL.
Outs:Pears and someone else.
Ins: McVeigh and Jetta.
Mighty_bombers
30 Mar 2009, 18:28
id say theres no reason to make changes this week , no one has earnt there spot in the 2s apart from David Zaharakis , so maybe he should come in for Neagle only changed id make
Id make a lot of possy moves but so team being like this
Backs
Ricky Dyson..............Tayte Pears.................Henry Slattery
Brent Stanton...........Adam McPhee............. Heath Hocking
Mids
Bachar Houli..........Sam Lonergan................Courtenay Dempsey
David Hille..............Jobe Watson....................Jason Winderlich
Forwards
Hayden Skipworth..........Paddy Ryder...........Angus Monfries
Alwyn Davey................Michael Hurley........Andrew Lovett
Bench
Scott Lucas , Dustin Fletcher , Matthew Lloyd ,Jay Neagle
is zaharakis ready for a debut? how has he been going at bendigo?
EDIT: dw, i checked the bendigo report and found out
Big Scottknowsall
30 Mar 2009, 18:32
is zaharakis ready for a debut? how has he been going at bendigo?
Are you avin a laff?
32 touches, 7 goals on Saturday
reincarnated
30 Mar 2009, 19:26
Houli only made one real bad clanger. It was basically because no one gave him a lead, he got forced to hold on to the footy longer, and the umpire called play on. Ended up kicking it in to the man on the mark. Overall he had 78% Efficiency.
I was more concerned about Winderlich's kicking, and the like of Lucas and Hocking dropping easy chest marks. And Lloyd just shutting up shop. I would rather Lloyd or Lucas getting dropped, than Neagle.
Impressed with Hurley and his efforts. I've never seen a kid making his debut, kick out from behinds.
Zaka needs to be rewareded for his efforts and ofcourse, if McVeigh is fit he will walk in to the team.
For team balance, Hocking and Pears be dropped. (Though both were ok on the weekend).
warney7
30 Mar 2009, 20:38
Seems like most people are calling for Zaharakis to be included after 1 good reserves game, but I don't think we need to rush him in.
I'd actually prefer to get some experience into the side for this game, and if McVeigh isn't ready I'd like to see Nash or NLM come into the side.....even if I don't usually want them in our 22.
I'd also think about dropping Pears, but wouldn't want him to lose confidence considering he didn't exactly play badly against Port.
Like I said before, I don't want Bellchambers to be picked this week because he'll get killed anyway. I'd be saving him to take on Carlton who have no established ruckman.
Possible Ins: Nash, NLM, Jetta
Possible outs: Slattery, Houli, Pears, Dyson
Smyth94
30 Mar 2009, 20:41
I reckon we should make one, perhaps two changes max...the biggest thing we need now is continuity - Because we've got such a young side I'm willing to back our players in to bounce back from poor games - i.e. Houli & Neagle
Darealrath
30 Mar 2009, 21:32
I reckon we should make one, perhaps two changes max...the biggest thing we need now is continuity - Because we've got such a young side I'm willing to back our players in to bounce back from poor games - i.e. Houli & Neagle
I think it would also go a bit against Knights philosophy to not give the young blokes consecutive games.
That said I think the team could really benefit bringing in Zaha and Jetta. We need that spark and class.
Longy413
30 Mar 2009, 21:35
Houli only made one real bad clanger.
One bad clanger?
He set up his teammates with hospital handballs because he still lacks basic decision making skills.
Seems like most people are calling for Zaharakis to be included after 1 good reserves game, but I don't think we need to rush him in.
He kicked three goals from the midfield and then four more playing forward.
How can we not reward that?
And Jetta has now been in our best two in both games and found the ball 50 times in two games. He's done exactly what has been required of him.
We're sending the wrong message if we don't reward those performances and don't make changes to a team that in the end got flogged by seven goals.
Those calling for Slattery, he had 90% efficiency, only Ryder, Hurley, Dempsey and Neagle (who only had it twice) had better and he won many more contests than he lost. Does the bloke have to hold his opponent to 0 disposals to be given credit?
No one calls for Lonergan's head (10 disposals, 3 clangers), Slattery gone.
IN - Zaka and Jetta
OUT - Houli and Lucas
Pears lucky, he's going to be a class act but his skill level was about the worst. If he plays like that again and Daniher puts in another good one, there should be a straight swap.
reincarnated
30 Mar 2009, 23:10
That's rubbish. Players like Winderlich, McPhee, Watson, Dyson etc who have been on our list for years, can't kick the footy to a leading team mate and even Hille stuffed up 2 to 3 handballs where it was a real clanger.
This bloke Houli sent a 30m bullet down Lucas's throat with his right foot (ie, non-preferred foot). I would imagine our forwards would be wondering why on earth can't the others do that, even with their preferred foot.
Houli did some really good things, liked how he left his opponent and helped out his team mate by intercepting a pass at a crucial time of the game. His handballing might be a direct instruction from Knights who said after the game, he wanted his players to take risks. Maybe Houli can work on that, but not in the reserves.
Already Skipworth is keeping Jetta out of the side, imagine if McVeigh, Prismall and Welsh are ready to play. We won't have any of our younger midfielders/forward pocket getting games. And 2 years down the track we won't have gone anywhere. Then you will still go and try to argue on the main board, why there is a perception Carlton youngsters are better than Essendon youngsters. At this stage they are better because Gibbs is nearly played 50 games, our 2006 draftees are no where near that.
Sure they should earn it. But Houli, Jetta, Reimers, Lonergan should all be a regular part of the side, because they have already shown plenty of promise, and apart from Jetta, others have been consistant.
bombre-boy
31 Mar 2009, 00:09
Then you will still go and try to argue on the main board, why there is a perception Carlton youngsters are better than Essendon youngsters. At this stage they are better because Gibbs is nearly played 50 games, our 2006 draftees are no where near that.
Might this be because they had the #1 draft pick 3 years running and also got Judd as a bonus....Young'ns also look good when players around them have excellent skills....something our team cannot profess to have.
Jonesy1987
31 Mar 2009, 01:38
Outs- Neagle
In- Zaharakis
We need to keep the side settled as possible, let them learn to play consistently together. Also we should reward good Bendigo form and punish bad form in the seniors to encourage players to fight for their spots and create strong depth.
Longy413
31 Mar 2009, 08:19
This bloke Houli sent a 30m bullet down Lucas's throat with his right foot (ie, non-preferred foot). I would imagine our forwards would be wondering why on earth can't the others do that, even with their preferred foot.
So you want him to play because he can kick thirty metres?
Houli did some really good things, liked how he left his opponent and helped out his team mate by intercepting a pass at a crucial time of the game.
Yep, that was great.
His handballing might be a direct instruction from Knights who said after the game, he wanted his players to take risks. Maybe Houli can work on that, but not in the reserves.
Take risks means run and take the game on.
Not stop, u-turn and handball to a teammate in a stationary position.
If that is Knights' game plan, then it is he that should go. However, what you are saying defies logic.
Sure they should earn it. But Houli, Jetta, Reimers, Lonergan should all be a regular part of the side, because they have already shown plenty of promise, and apart from Jetta, others have been consistant.
I'm all for playing young players, I'm not suggesting Sammy should get dropped. Just making an interesting comparison.
Houli has consistently been finding the footy, that's correct. But he's also been consistently making the same mistakes.
He needs to learn.
Might this be because they had the #1 draft pick 3 years running and also got Judd as a bonus....Young'ns also look good when players around them have excellent skills....something our team cannot profess to have.
Did you watch the game on Thursday night? Gibbs won a lot of his own ball, and has turned into one of the important cogs in their midfield already. Carlton's kids would be ahead of ours.
A note on Houli, it wasn't his best game and he did turn it over a lot, but he wasn't the only one. Hille made three or four decisions that were just as bad. We need to get games into him and he will improve.
EVERLAST
31 Mar 2009, 08:39
I'd like to hope we keep bringing in some of the youngsters we have acquired in the off season. Predominantly most of our 50 - 100 game players are not premiership material and won't take us forward.
Nash, Lovett - Murray (past his use by date), Lovett (if he can't turn things around consistently), Dyson, Laycock, Monfries, Slattery, and Stanton (all passengers)
All have been on our list for quite some time and haven't really become great players. I don't hold high hopes for Jetta and we need more players of McVeigh's ilk.
It makes sense to have our youngsters play against their peers over this season (whilst there are so many fresh faces being groomed in the one season) in preparation for Knights' final season on his current contract.
Our pre-season didn't excite me and I'm tipping we'll finish bottom 4 again.
Zaharakis should've been included for round one in my opinion and Houli will improve as long as he doesn't have to look up to the players I mentioned above for work ethic.
fishguts
31 Mar 2009, 08:50
I'd like to hope we keep bringing in some of the youngsters we have acquired in the off season. Predominantly most of our 50 - 100 game players are not premiership material and won't take us forward.
Nash, Lovett - Murray (past his use by date), Lovett (if he can't turn things around consistently), Dyson, Laycock, Monfries, Slattery, and Stanton (all passengers)
Lovett has given us no reason to doubt that he has changed his ways. Especially when he kept his cool after the coathanger to kick the goal, THEN let him know about it. Stanton was great yesterday, yet the mob will always think he's a plodder. People need to remember he's 22.
All have been on our list for quite some time and haven't really become great players. I don't hold high hopes for Jetta and we need more players of McVeigh's ilk.
You need to watch Jetta more, the kid is perhaps the biggest freak on our team for setting up goals and kicking them himself (and Davey) The amount of goal assists this kid gets is extraordinary.
It makes sense to have our youngsters play against their peers over this season (whilst there are so many fresh faces being groomed in the one season) in preparation for Knights' final season on his current contract.
It makes sense to play whoever deserves to be there, should be no free passes at this club.
Our pre-season didn't excite me and I'm tipping we'll finish bottom 4 again.
We won't finish bottom 4, though it will be difficult to make the lower region of the 8. 9-12 again most likely.
Zaharakis should've been included for round one in my opinion and Houli will improve as long as he doesn't have to look up to the players I mentioned above for work ethic.
Why should Zaharakis been in there? I'm one of the biggest supporters of Zaka on this site and BB, but the other players in the team had deserved it more. Having said that, he will be a 95% chance to play this week.
id say theres no reason to make changes this week , no one has earnt there spot in the 2s apart from David Zaharakis , so maybe he should come in for Neagle only changed id make
Id make a lot of possy moves but so team being like this
Backs
Ricky Dyson..............Tayte Pears.................Henry Slattery
Brent Stanton...........Adam McPhee............. Heath Hocking
Mids
Bachar Houli..........Sam Lonergan................Courtenay Dempsey
David Hille..............Jobe Watson....................Jason Winderlich
Forwards
Hayden Skipworth..........Paddy Ryder...........Angus Monfries
Alwyn Davey................Michael Hurley........Andrew Lovett
Bench
Scott Lucas , Dustin Fletcher , Matthew Lloyd ,Jay Neagle
Jetta has had two really good games for Bendigo and is a real chance.
Just to throw another name up , Daniher could be a forward option. He was reasonable against North and very good on Saturday despite the fact that Hawkins kicked some late goals on him.
That's rubbish. Players like Winderlich, McPhee, Watson, Dyson etc who have been on our list for years, can't kick the footy to a leading team mate and even Hille stuffed up 2 to 3 handballs where it was a real clanger.
This bloke Houli sent a 30m bullet down Lucas's throat with his right foot (ie, non-preferred foot). I would imagine our forwards would be wondering why on earth can't the others do that, even with their preferred foot.
Houli did some really good things, liked how he left his opponent and helped out his team mate by intercepting a pass at a crucial time of the game. His handballing might be a direct instruction from Knights who said after the game, he wanted his players to take risks. Maybe Houli can work on that, but not in the reserves.
Already Skipworth is keeping Jetta out of the side, imagine if McVeigh, Prismall and Welsh are ready to play. We won't have any of our younger midfielders/forward pocket getting games. And 2 years down the track we won't have gone anywhere. Then you will still go and try to argue on the main board, why there is a perception Carlton youngsters are better than Essendon youngsters. At this stage they are better because Gibbs is nearly played 50 games, our 2006 draftees are no where near that.
Sure they should earn it. But Houli, Jetta, Reimers, Lonergan should all be a regular part of the side, because they have already shown plenty of promise, and apart from Jetta, others have been consistant.
I think Jetta should come in and take Monfries place.
As far as Houli goes i thought he was ordinary. Hardy sighted in the first half and did a few good things in the third quarter but did not use the ball as well as he has done in the past.
And i think Zaharakis has to come in. His work in the forward line against Geelong on saturday was exactly what we have been missing.
A small forward who can kick crumbing goals as well as being an accurate set shot who can also play his part in the midfield rotations.
kelvin_sheedy
31 Mar 2009, 09:30
Why do some people want Dyson in the side?
He had 71% efficiency... we averaged 78%.
He lost his feet a number of times in the game and influenced the game in the oppositions favour.
In the last when the game was on the line he dropped a sitter in defence when he heard footsteps and then got tackled by Burgoyne and gave up the ball.
He made just as many, if not more than any other player.
I don't get it. :confused:
Andre 2000
31 Mar 2009, 10:01
Why do some people want Dyson in the side?
He had 71% efficiency... we averaged 78%.
He lost his feet a number of times in the game and influenced the game in the oppositions favour.
In the last when the game was on the line he dropped a sitter in defence when he heard footsteps and then got tackled by Burgoyne and gave up the ball.
He made just as many, if not more than any other player.
I don't get it. :confused:
He didn't make as many mistakes as Houli. If you are so enamoured with statistics, then Bachar made 8 critical errors.
He provided more drive than Dempsey off half back.
And he competed well with Grey. I can only remeber Grey kicking 1 goal in the 2nd half.
Monfries was supposed to be playing a defensive half forward job on 19 year old Krakouer(20 touches).
Do the kicking efficiency stats include hitting teammates like Lucas and Mcphee, who dropped their marks, as inefficient? His kicks were definitely well placed. Our key forwards were shocking!
Dyson wasn't great, but is clearly trying really hard and deserves another shot.
kelvin_sheedy
31 Mar 2009, 10:12
And he competed well with Grey. I can only remeber Grey kicking 1 goal in the 2nd half.
Sorry, I forgot to include the bit where Gray took the mark outside 50 and Dyson was day dreaming on the mark allowing Gray to run around and gain a few metres which left Slatts one on one with Ebert who marked 20 out.
Basic stuff he keeps on stuffing up every game. Sorry but there are better players then him and they should be given a go.
Andre 2000
31 Mar 2009, 10:25
Sorry, I forgot to include the bit where Gray took the mark outside 50 and Dyson was day dreaming on the mark allowing Gray to run around and gain a few metres which left Slatts one on one with Ebert who marked 20 out.
Basic stuff he keeps on stuffing up every game. Sorry but there are better players then him and they should be given a go.
Really? He went sideways. He didn't get past Dyson.
You see, what you want to see.
Kaiser Powser
31 Mar 2009, 10:30
Changes I would like to see:
Out:
Slattery (would love to see a game where he didn't gift the opposition a goal from a clumsy free kick in front of goal, but it just aint going to happen)
Dyson (enough's, enough, the guy is a dud. He aint going to be playing when McVeigh and Reimers come back for round 3, so we may as well give someone else a try before then)
Neagle (can we stop wasting a spot on someone who can only get two possies a game. Time to get some endurance and confidence in the twos)
In:
Daniher (played well in NAB, deserves a game)
Bellchambers (we need all the held we can get against Lurch. Or perhaps we should just give up and try and expose him around the ground)
Jetta (forward line was non-functional last week. Jetta sets up a lot of goals)
Unlucky: Zaharakis (back it up again this week and then give him a shot)
kelvin_sheedy
31 Mar 2009, 10:40
Really? He went sideways. He didn't get past Dyson.
You see, what you want to see.
Watch how Hawthorn guard the mark and then watch Dyson's piss poor effort. Can someone please youtube it!
It allowed the ball to get a few more metres before the defence could help out Slatts.
It's the little things that kill ya.
Ziltoid
31 Mar 2009, 10:50
http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/74056/default.aspx
ESSENDON appears likely to make several changes to its side to take on Fremantle at Docklands on Sunday after a collection of strong performance at VFL level over the weekend.
David Zaharakis and Darcy Daniher were particularly strong for Bendigo, with the former picking up 30 possessions and kicking seven goals.
Coach Matthew Knights said young guns Leroy Jetta, David Myers, Jay Nash and Michael Quinn will also come into consideration when match committee sits later in the week.
“I’m really buoyant about where this list is going and we’ll keep pushing to develop it,” Knights said.
Mark McVeigh (ankle) and Kyle Reimers (tendonitis) are likely to miss this week and resume playing in round three.Could be quite a few changes this weekend.
Watch how Hawthorn guard the mark and then watch Dyson's piss poor effort. Can someone please youtube it!
It allowed the ball to get a few more metres before the defence could help out Slatts.
It's the little things that kill ya.
Going off topic here but **** you AFL. It is bullshit that you have Telstra big pond internet to watch replays of the game.
Well you can kiss my arse AFL and Telstra. Game recorded on Foxtell IQ. Game now burnt onto disc.
saladin
31 Mar 2009, 11:42
i would consider dropping houli for at least one instance of taking short steps when confronted with front-on collisions. one in the back pocket/hbf lead to a port uncontested mark 20 meters out. i don't like to pot players like that, but i was fuming that with the game on the line early, he didn't put himself on the line. and i like bachar as a player.
StealthBomber
31 Mar 2009, 11:46
Surely Jetta needs to come in to the side at the expense of Monfries whom didnt look too impressive. Put a rocket up Monfries a$$ and send him to the two's to earn a senior spot - he is much better than that, just doesnt seem to be at the drop of the ball when required. Jetta has earned his spot and will provide more pressure and creativity alongside Davey.
I know a few on here want Houli dropped but I believe his development is required in the seniors and will get better. He will get unstuck as he endeavours to "take the game on" as Knighter wants him too. He needs to build his confidence.
Same with Slatts, he played on a quality in form opponent and did a reasonable job. I thought his disposals were very good albiet not knowing his efficiency...anyone?
Dyson probably played to his potential, which is not great, did dome OK things going forward but lacked aggression and composure in the back line when needed! I say his time is nearing and opportunities to Myers and Nash are imminant.
So.....
Out: Dyson, Neagle, Monfries
In: Nash, Jetta, Zaharakis
Out: Slattery (has been terrible all year including NAB IMO)
Dyson (played well in the NAB but was typical when the real stuff started)
In: Jetta (Knights is going to kill Davey if he has to put all the forward pressure on himself. He can't run down everyone, especially coming off a knee reco)
Myers (really should be in the team if fit)
Personally i dont think that we need an extra ruckman against Freo. Bellchambers will win the majority of hitouts, and if anybody watched their game last week then they will know that under pressure (and hell, even without it) they are turning the ball over like crazy. I think we would benifit more from more mobile players to get to those spaces and mark the wayard balls. Pears played exceptionally, don't drop him for team balance, we need him in there to develop further, was great IMO. As for Houli and Dempsey, i say give them another go. They didn't show a tonne but should be kept there to try and rebound. I also think that they are crucial to the type of game plan that Knights has us playing.
LemmingMaster
31 Mar 2009, 12:21
Bellchambers will win the majority of hitouts
Not sure if you've seen the Dockers Ruckman before, but his name is Sandilands and I highly doubt Bellchambers will win many hitouts.
Hmm, I can't be bothered listing all my changes to the Rd 1 team, but I would look at playing a team something this:
B: Henry Slattery, Dustin Fletcher, Darcy Daniher
HB: Tayte Pears, Michael Hurley, David Myers
C: Jason Winderlich, Brent Stanton, Andrew Lovett
HF: Alwyn Davey, Paddy Ryder, Adam McPhee
F: Hayden Skipworth, Matthew Lloyd, Jay Neagle
Foll: David Hille, Jobe Watson, Sam Lonergan
Int: Tom Bellchambers, Leroy Jetta, Heath Hocking, Courtenay Dempsey
Maybe Lucas could replace Neagle, but they were both terrible so I just thought maybe it's best to get another game into Jay. Also Lucas was a constant offender of drawing his man to what would have been a one on one contest and then doing nothing and sitting at the back against Port. Scotty, forward lines are more crowded than ever, you need to make space not allow your opponent to go third man up while you don't make a contest.
It is a young backline, but I think it could work with a little experience and it gives Paddy the chance to play forward and see if he can make it up there. Also, with the workrates of McPhee and Ryder having moving around and up the ground it may create some more space for Lloyd in the forward line. Just tell Neagle (or Lucas if you prefer) to lead to the pockets and stay out of Lloyd's way. :p
You could also swap Dempsey for Zaharakis if you thought Zaharakis was ready. Dempsey was pretty average (and has been for most of the NAB cup), but I'd give Dempsey another chance and I'm always hesitant to play new draftees in the big time too early. But I didn't see his Bendigo game, I guess if he is ready he is ready.
the egg
31 Mar 2009, 13:27
What's up with Dempsey may i ask? I saw him play before he broke his leg and he ran of the half backline quite well with plenty of pace, although his decision making looked dodgey at times at least he took the game on.
Watched him play on the weekend at he just seemed to lope around and didn't show much intensity...what's happened? There was even a big article this year in the paper about him claiming this is his year to shine :confused:
Mighty_bombers
31 Mar 2009, 13:39
do you people even watch our games?
or do you just look at the team sheet and go nah dont like you and you and you and ill put him in and you , and you
cause Thats what it seems like
DROP DYSON - Come on? he his the one guy in our team who should be staying at least his Bust his arse of each week trying
Bring in Myers - are you for real why should he get picked ? his done nothing to be in the team and Dyson shits all over him (atm)
Jetta - is hopeless what cause he kicks the odd good goal ? it only takes less then a min to kick one good goal what does he do for the rest of the 119 mins (120mins a game say) he runs around like a lost chook without his head
Bellchanges is young and id very much doubt he would out tap Sandy so why would you bring him in when we can have Ryder who can almost jump and beat sandy in the ruck - 50/50 chance of ryder winning a hit out to Bellchambers 10/90 chance
NLM - does he even try ? maybe thats why his in the VFL
Nash - does look good in some games but most of his kicks turn over and is only a depth player
Stanton - playing on the half back line racking up 30 odd possys come on mate i can do that and im not even that good , Stanton should be used as a tagger like a Kane Cornes type that way he dont need to be able to handle a tagger - cause he will be one
id say leave the team as it is there is no reason to change the team no one has done anything in the VFL - (only zakka)
Where losing it by to MANY HANDBALLS not cause where shit team , STOP HANDBALLING so many times , i hate it when one of our players hand ball to some knowing there just about to get tackled , why dont u just bang it long and turn it over that way instead of putting your team mate under the pump , NLM , Nash are the main ones that keep doing it and its getting beyond a joke.
*4 talls in a forward is asking to lose (Lloyd , lucas , Mcphee ,Neagle ) id drop neagle he hasnt even done anything to play afl what he takes one good mark and goal goal and his a superstar ? send him to VFL to he starts kicking bags then bring him back.
*Play Ryder in the ruck and rest him as a full forward and when Ryder is tied from the ruck send him to full forward.
(i said that before essendonfc.com.au reported he was going to change possys)
TimeIsRunningOut
31 Mar 2009, 13:43
If Zaharakis doesn't come in....
FFS, he kicked 7 goals and had 32 touches. I don't care if it's only 1 match, you have to reward someone for a game like that. Bring him in!
Ludwig van Bertstare
31 Mar 2009, 13:50
Watch how Hawthorn guard the mark and then watch Dyson's piss poor effort. Can someone please youtube it!
It allowed the ball to get a few more metres before the defence could help out Slatts.
It's the little things that kill ya.
What quarter/time did it happen? I'll see if I can upload it for you.
Andre 2000
31 Mar 2009, 14:03
Watch how Hawthorn guard the mark and then watch Dyson's piss poor effort. Can someone please youtube it!
It allowed the ball to get a few more metres before the defence could help out Slatts.
It's the little things that kill ya.
Ok, he could've guarded the mark better. But you are still too happy to ignore the positive aspects from his game. Why not youtube those?
kelvin_sheedy
31 Mar 2009, 14:11
What quarter/time did it happen? I'll see if I can upload it for you.
It might have been at the start of the last?
Ebert took the mark over Slattery and goaled. Port were kicking to the right of screen.
to be honest we need to keep the same team, yes their are others pressing for selection, I want to see Zaka back up his game in the reserves before we all get overexcited about it, Pears and Hurley are our future down back, so let them play together, Lucas is the one who we should be talking about, he is the one who is holding back our youngsters up forward. He should play at FF with Neagle in a pocket as I think it is to much to ask of him to play a KPP at 20 years of age. Or play Lloyd at FF, Neagle FP, Lucas CHF, we need Lloyd closer to goal, he was lost on the weekend up the ground and was sorely missed, Lucas being underdone should of been another clear message that we had to play Lloyd out of the square. Dyson will not get dropped. If people actually look at Dyson and see his numbers at junior level, he has never really been a big ball winner, his long accurate kicking are the features of his game, he has shown enough I think that he will get better, of the players that have been mentioned, I think Dempsey, if anyone should be looked at to be getting a rest in the magoos this weekend. him and Houli both looked underdone and were not trying, I know they are not overly enthusing looking players, but they did not show much on the weekend. Although, the one thing that could keep them in, is; who comes in for them. No one really is there. oh and by the way, Bellchambers has to come in, raw or not, give the big fella a go, the more game time he gets the better he will become in the long run.
Out: Dyson (even though he was okay down back - not the worst), Dempsey, Neagle, Houli
In: Zaharakis, McVeigh, Jetta, Bellchambers
My side:
B: H. Slattery, Fletcher, Hurley
HB: Pears, Ryder, Skipworth
C: Lovett, Watson, Hocking
HF: Davey, Lucas, McPhee
F: Monfries, Lloyd, Jetta
R: Hille, Stanton, McVeigh
Int: Winderlich, Bellchambers, Lonergan, Zaharakis
Emerg: Dyson, Daniher, Houli
ghostdog
31 Mar 2009, 16:40
Dyson will not get dropped. If people actually look at Dyson and see his numbers at junior level, he has never really been a big ball winner, his long accurate kicking are the features of his game, he has shown enough I think that he will get better...
I'm not sold on that.
Ben the Gooner
31 Mar 2009, 16:53
Kyle Reimers (tendonitis) are likely to miss this week and resume playing in round three.
Against Carlton no less.:p
(ignoring the fact that he's had no preseason and will likely spend at least two weeks in Bendigo)
TheDon35
31 Mar 2009, 17:48
[quote=Ben the Gooner;14021891]So who plays back pocket?
So just because Henry Slattery can only play in the back pocket (if you call it playing) and does it extremely poorly, you think there is nobody better to play in our side in that position??? Strange one.
Ben the Gooner
31 Mar 2009, 17:54
Who do you suggest plays on the crumbing forward each week?
Whether Slats is good enough is not the issue - we have to play him until we get someone better.
bombers2011
31 Mar 2009, 17:58
Who do you suggest plays on the crumbing forward each week?
Whether Slats is good enough is not the issue - we have to play him until we get someone better.
i feel like we could use atkinson for this job..
Ben the Gooner
31 Mar 2009, 18:12
He's an option, but I prefer Slattery tbh.
loopy_cam
31 Mar 2009, 19:24
Out: Neagle, Monfries
In: Jetta, Zaharakis
B: Slatts, Hurley, Dyson
HB: Dempsey, Fletch, Pears
C: Lovett, Watson, Hocking
HF: McPhee, Lloyd, Ryder
F: Davey, Lucas, Skipworth
R: Hille, Stanton, Winderlich
I/C: Jetta, Zaharakis, Houli, Lonergan
Emerg: Neagle, Bellchambers, Monfries
Was out of Monfries and Houli for the last spot with Houli just getting the nod.
Hurley and Pears must play. Ryder to spend time forward as has been said. I think the forwardline will work much better with Davey, Jetta and Zaka to be the crumbing forwards.
Andre 2000
31 Mar 2009, 21:00
He's an option, but I prefer Slattery tbh.
Agreed. The last time Atko played he couldn't stay within 5 metres of his man. Has a lot to learn.
The_Young_Gun
31 Mar 2009, 21:30
In: Zaharakis, Jetta.
Out: Slattery, Houli/Dyson.
Anyone can play back pocket... Stuff Slattery..