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What the hell is he doing batting at number 3?
Fansquad
5 Jan 2003, 15:41
Originally posted by Briedis
What the hell is he doing batting at number 3?
take the shine off the new ball....protect the other batsman....throw england out a bit.
larrikin
5 Jan 2003, 15:51
Originally posted by Briedis
What the hell is he doing batting at number 3?
Leading our batting at the moment......
Minkus_Swan
5 Jan 2003, 15:51
To score some runs! :confused: He's doing better then opening pair and ponting.
EagleBlue
5 Jan 2003, 15:54
He will be alright as long as he doesnt get hit on the pads
Originally posted by Fansquad
take the shine off the new ball....protect the other batsman....throw england out a bit.
Isn't that what the batsmen are for???
larrikin
5 Jan 2003, 16:21
Geez, he's a tough bugger - taking a hit on a fractured finger.
Fansquad
5 Jan 2003, 16:47
Well done Bichel
49 not out at stumps.
Well done Bich's.........good fighting effort! you can make a hundred son!!
That was a really top effort from Bichel! Maybe he should be our regular number 3!!
GoEagles
5 Jan 2003, 18:48
Originally posted by Briedis
That was a really top effort from Bichel! Maybe he should be our regular number 3!!
He did a hellova lot better than Ponting did this test. Pontings footwork were as slow as Jo Angel on the dancefloor!
Originally posted by GoEagles
He did a hellova lot better than Ponting did this test. Pontings footwork were as slow as Jo Angel on the dancefloor!
:D
Well done Bicho! Gutsy innings, go on & get yer ton son!
I would absolutely love bichel to get a ton but lets worry about the 50 first, he's already had one 48 in the series.
Well one things for sure he can bat much better than he can bowl
Originally posted by Briedis
That was a really top effort from Bichel! Maybe he should be our regular number 3!!
Play him in the one day team instead of Watson.I think his 49 is off about 55 balls.
larrikin
5 Jan 2003, 21:38
Originally posted by JUBJUB
Play him in the one day team instead of Watson.I think his 49 is off about 55 balls.
With 3 slips, 2 gullies and a short leg. He got good value for his shots because of the attacking field (which has been a part of the Hayden/Langer early scoring rates)
Wicked Lester
6 Jan 2003, 07:31
Originally posted by GoEagles
He did a hellova lot better than Ponting did this test. Pontings footwork were as slow as Jo Angel on the dancefloor!
True - Ponting only makes runs when test series are there to be won. We don't want that type in the team do we?
Originally posted by Wicked Lester
True - Ponting only makes runs when test series are there to be won. We don't want that type in the team do we?
:p A Mark Butcher type player would be better.As soon a series is lost,he pulls his finger out.
bluechampion
6 Jan 2003, 09:11
He was robbed this moring. Where's the justice?
Waugh S. has just added to the conjecture - what the hell do we do with him now? I think we have just looked about 4-5 years into the future this test match - no Warne, no McGrath, no Australian attack????
Originally posted by P76
Waugh S. has just added to the conjecture - what the hell do we do with him now? I think we have just looked about 4-5 years into the future this test match - no Warne, no McGrath, no Australian attack????
The problem with the Australian attack is that it is too reliant on the 2 bowlers.
in 2000 it was McGrath and Lee who were dominating, Warne was struggling and Miller/MacGill were chipping in occasionally.
in 2001 it was McGrath and Gillespie. Lee had his elbow problems and Warne was still struggling.
in 2002 it has been McGrath and Warne. Gillespie has been bowling well for no reward, and Bichel/Lee have done SFA.
Now McGrath and Warne have been injured, we're up **** creek.
i think we will plateau out for a period of a season or two when McGrath/Warne go, but i think we have a lot of talent coming through, it is just they are rather young at the moment. Noffke, Rofe are two that can take over, just probably not for another few seasons. Brant will also eventually be a big star if he keeps progressing the way he does.
We'll be right in the long run, but our bowling attack will even out with the rest of the world for a period, but we'll get back on top eventually and be just as good as today.
Originally posted by P76
Waugh S. has just added to the conjecture - what the hell do we do with him now? I think we have just looked about 4-5 years into the future this test match - no Warne, no McGrath, no Australian attack????
Yep fully agree.Bichel isnt good enough,Gillespie keeps breaking down and Lee needs to keep improving but on the whole i think we need to find some quality bowlers in the next few years if we are going to maintain our dominance
I think what this is also showing us is that we have been blessed/bloody lucky in the past few years by having so many champions in the same team, which is something that just can't continue - hopefully it means when the Poms come out in 4 yrs time it will be a more evenly matched series.........
Originally posted by shiva25
Yep fully agree.Bichel isnt good enough,Gillespie keeps breaking down and Lee needs to keep improving but on the whole i think we need to find some quality bowlers in the next few years if we are going to maintain our dominance
Everyone lamented the lack of fast bowlers when Dennis Lillee retired, but a year later an 18 year old Craig McDermott came on the scene, then as his career was coming to an end we saw the emergence of a young and raw Glenn McGrath.
I wouldn't be preaching gloom and doom just yet.
McDermott took quite a while to get up to his later high standard I seem to recall, but you're right, it remains to be seen how the current crop will fare once they get the chance.
Wicked Lester
6 Jan 2003, 11:15
As many have suggested it is quite possible Rofe, Noffke and others will be good or very good Australian players. The point is however that we will be replacing two of the greatest players to have ever played the game.
There is no doubt we have depth, but there are no instant McGrath's or Warne's waiting in the wings.
The whole Australian team look very tired at present. Interestingly the commentary team think Waugh's innings on Saturday took an enormous mental toll also.
It's quite clear that Waugh is on the wane - yes, he can still hit a decent knock, but they are getting farther and farther apart. A friend of mine suggested at our Sunday nets session that an idea for Waugh might be to send him to the Windies as a batsman only....I'm not sure about it myself, but my friend knows his cricket, what does everyone reckon?
Originally posted by P76
It's quite clear that Waugh is on the wane - yes, he can still hit a decent knock, but they are getting farther and farther apart. A friend of mine suggested at our Sunday nets session that an idea for Waugh might be to send him to the Windies as a batsman only....I'm not sure about it myself, but my friend knows his cricket, what does everyone reckon?
I don't mind the idea at all. I am a Steve Waugh fan and still think he has a lot to offer at a batsman. I also feel that Ricky Ponting is ready to captain Australia at Test level. Maybe just playing as a batsman with no captaincy pressures may allow Waugh to relax and make more runs.
As my mate pointed out, it was something that happened quite regularly in the past, and of course is happening in the England team at the moment. It might give Stevie a little more longevity, and we all know he'd like to get that average back up over 50, although of course he's not interested in stats.....
Originally posted by JUBJUB
:p A Mark Butcher type player would be better.As soon a series is lost,he pulls his finger out.
or Andy Caddick.
how soft has this proven him to be. His leading there attack and when the chips are down and they need someone to get them out of it, his nowhere to be seen.
Now he gets a couple of wickets and his team has a chance of victory, his right in the thick of it.
after his outburst when walking of the field in adelaide, his attitude to cricket really has to be assessed by the ECB. for those who dont know, he basically came off the field going berserk and cursing his teammates and saying 'why the fuc|< am i in this team for'
5-0 woulda been nice, but 4-1 will have to do. its still a pretty convincing victory.
The thing that amazes me, not just about Caddick, but arguably all the English bowlers, is how they seem to be unable to bowl a regular line and length - there is at least one four ball every over. NZ bowled line and length last season and drew a test series.....Caddick bowling in the first test was disgraceful, the more so because he IS experienced. He needs to have a good hard look at himself - I doubt he'd get into the lineup in his country of birth....
Originally posted by P76
The thing that amazes me, not just about Caddick, but arguably all the English bowlers, is how they seem to be unable to bowl a regular line and length - there is at least one four ball every over. NZ bowled line and length last season and drew a test series.....Caddick bowling in the first test was disgraceful, the more so because he IS experienced. He needs to have a good hard look at himself - I doubt he'd get into the lineup in his country of birth....
before this series, i woulda placed him in the Kiwi team, but after this, i dont think i would.
I mean, the thing about the English attack that is so depressing is that they don't even seem to learn - they obviously didn't watch any vision of NZ here last summer, they obviously don't watch McGrath when he's bowling right in front of their stupid bloody faces....just disgraceful.....
Originally posted by hourn
or Andy Caddick.
how soft has this proven him to be. His leading there attack and when the chips are down and they need someone to get them out of it, his nowhere to be seen.
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Yes Caddick is the bowling version of Butcher.Next series,Caddick & Butcher may as well sit out the first 4 tests & just turn up for the last one.
Vaughan was the only English player that did anything when the series was alive.