View Full Version : Knights thoughts on Daniher playing on Fev
smg1602
13 Apr 2009, 22:29
What has knights thinking. I believe on giving young kids ago
but nearly costed us the game.
Sir James
13 Apr 2009, 22:37
I think he left it to O'Donnell to make that change.
Strike Swiftly
13 Apr 2009, 22:41
Great decision IMO.
Jonesy1987
13 Apr 2009, 22:59
I think it was the right move, our other youngsters Pears and Hurley probably wouldn't be able to keep up with Fev on the lead and we have to play for the future with Fletch's impending retirement.
Sure he got touched up but he stuck with Fev all night, right on his heels. Quite a few of Fevs marks Darcy got a fist to, but wasn't strong enough to knock the ball from the vice grips and even once in the last performed that textbook spoil. Give him two-three more preseasons in the weights room and we just might have a very good player on our hands.
Those three young backs can each play on different types of forwards and in years too come will form a formidable unit IMO.
fishguts
13 Apr 2009, 23:28
What has knights thinking. I believe on giving young kids ago
but nearly costed us the game.
No, he didn't 'costed' us the game.
What Darcy did well was cut his space in the middle and pushed him out on hard angles.
He will learn from this, and in 3 years time will have Fev's measure when he puts muscle on.
We probably would of lost if Fev kicked straight but Daniher was playing against a much stronger player. Give him a few years and he'll be right on the big boys.
What has knights thinking. I believe on giving young kids ago
but nearly costed us the game.
Dont come on and bag the coach unless you have a better solution.
Whta was Knights going to do. Put Fletch on him to stop him ?
Oh wait Fev has kicked 7 goals against us twice in recent times with more experienced opponents on him including Fletcher.
bipolarbeaR
14 Apr 2009, 07:15
Brilliant move :) Really enjoyed it actually! Daniher spoiled when we really needed him to, he will gain so much experience from that. Aswell as an additional $100 to the wallet thanks to Fev. I am really excited about our backline of the future. Pears, Hurley and Daniher.
hugorune
14 Apr 2009, 08:40
Daniher did a much better job than I thought he would actually. I was really impressed with the kid's effort and he earnt some respect from me :thumbsu:
and that freed Fletcher to play up on a player better suited to him IMHO.
CarlosHernandez
14 Apr 2009, 09:24
I loved watching their dual on the night, especially Darcy's spoil late in the last quarter. Fev has killed us on a couple of occasions the last few years, so Daniher can hold his head up.
Backline of Daniher, Hurley and Pears does look very promising in 2/3/4 years time.
AndyLesPaul
14 Apr 2009, 09:55
It was a good call by Knights, Daniher learnt throughout the game and Fev missed the lot of the contests he won.
win-win-win.
SirJimi05
14 Apr 2009, 11:39
I was impressed with Daniher.
He out positioned Fevola on numerous occasions but unfortunately he wasn't strong enough to take advantage of this.
Once he gains the strength he needs we couldhave a good player on our hands.
IMO had knights put a slower player (ie pears, fletcher) than daniher essendon would have lost. with daniher's pace it took fevola longer to burn him off and many of his shots were from close to 50m or towards the boundary line. had fev been on pears, fletcher he most likely would have burnt them off quicker and had shots from closer in with most likely better accuracy.
Great decision by knights to keep the faith.
Daniher wasn't the best person to play on Fevola, but I couldn't see anyone else playing on him really.
We got the win, so you have to say it was a good decision.
Here_we_come
14 Apr 2009, 13:55
Who's Dabiher? Never heard of him. :D
What has knights thinking. I believe on giving young kids ago
but nearly costed us the game.
what do you mean "us" we don't go for unlisted.
plus it was a good learning experience.
short term pain, long term gain
It was fine leaving him there - even though the shots were piling up, there were very few times I thought that Daniher could have done more - it is very hard to stop a guy as quick as Fev with space in front of him. If anything, I was amazed at how well Daniher kept up with Fev. Hardly any fullbacks can.
Then who do we replace him with? Fletcher gets carved anyway, and wouldnt have done much better.
Much of carltons scoring was from wide - if you go to the gameday graph on the afl website, you can see that. Not 100% sure of how much it was Darcy or the team, but Knights probably thought it was better to have Daniher on Fev, and Fletcher out in front, forcing Carlton wide, than anything else.
Fev kicked 1.2 in the 2nd half, and the goal was from a pretty ordinary advantage call to Judd and Fev had 50m to himself.
Darcy would have taken a lot of confidence from that 2nd half. Lloyd said last night he was wrapped with out it turned out, so might be a a much better learning curve for the kid than it looks on paper.
Daniher wasn't the best person to play on Fevola, but I couldn't see anyone else playing on him really.
We got the win, so you have to say it was a good decision.
Fevola must be a VERY GOOD player if he can play poorly and have 12 shots for goal.
What Daniher did - was always play in front which meant that fevola had to lead wide
dons_fan185
14 Apr 2009, 16:35
it might have cost us the game
but it didn't
close thread
:D
Colin D'Cops
14 Apr 2009, 16:45
Daniher lacks strength, obviously; But learning the ropes with regards to reading the play early and where to position himself in marking contests is a good learning curve. These are the types of things that take time to develop for the majority, so to iron out some of them things early can only be a positive. Especially as we ended up getting the win regardless.
I have no doubt Fletcher would have done a slightly better job, but his time is over now. We can't rely on him anymore; He doesn't deserve to slug out his potentially last year just to save us from getting flogged. He deserves to be that linkman and enjoy kicking free bombs off the HBF under no pressure. Let him enjoy his footy. He has saved our arse so many times it's not funny.
Daniher was drafted as a forward, and to be honest, you could tell, Fev always managed to lead Daniher on the lead, and was alot smarter as to where he led, Daniher will take great confidence from the second half where he actually got a couple of very good fists to the ball and knocked it 20 - 30 meters to space or over the boundary, not just into the in front Fevola.
Was kinda funny though, best mate was saying how shit Lloyd is and this and that, and I saud, yeah he is still one of the best full forwards today, Fev missed his first two set shots and i said yeah, well done fev, mate said yeah but the big players kick the big goals, home behold, Lloyd kicked 5.1 and Fev 4.7. who was the better full forward, i think we all know the answer to that ;)
AndyLesPaul
14 Apr 2009, 17:11
Daniher was drafted as a forward, and to be honest, you could tell, Fev always managed to lead Daniher on the lead, and was alot smarter as to where he led, Daniher will take great confidence from the second half where he actually got a couple of very good fists to the ball and knocked it 20 - 30 meters to space or over the boundary, not just into the in front Fevola.
Was kinda funny though, best mate was saying how shit Lloyd is and this and that, and I saud, yeah he is still one of the best full forwards today, Fev missed his first two set shots and i said yeah, well done fev, mate said yeah but the big players kick the big goals, home behold, Lloyd kicked 5.1 and Fev 4.7. who was the better full forward, i think we all know the answer to that ;)
Was he really?
I'd say he was drafted as a back, because of Neagle and Gumbleton and our lacking of backmen.
Also
It was Fev's strength that won him the marking contests, but it was also his strength that resulted in his inaccuracy.
It all worked out really.
and now Daniher has reason to get stronger.
Crumpler83
14 Apr 2009, 17:21
I was a bit iffy on it during the game at points but I totally understood why Knights played him down there. It's all about development. Fletch isn't going to be around forever so this was a big test for Darcy and while he didn't exactly come through with flying colours we won the game and there were enough signs that point to him developing into a pretty good KPD once he adds a bit more bulk.
He had the speed to keep up with Fev on the lead but was outmuscled in the 1 on 1's which is to be expected at this point. Fletch was always hanging around to help out when it came down there anyway so it wasn't as if the coaching staff just hung Daniher out to dry.
Knights showed a lot of faith in the kid which will only help his development further down the track.
Big Blow Hard
14 Apr 2009, 18:50
"Dabiher", "costed us"
It's lucky Essendon supporters support giving kids a go. Even at starting threads. :D
Fev could have made the difference, but we also missed alot of goals in the last that might have seen us win by more.
Boucks09
14 Apr 2009, 19:39
Here are Fev's scoring shots:
0.1 - Kick from Muprhy from the centre clearance with Daniher hitting the ball but Fev holding the mark on the lead
0.2 - Fev intercepting a Stanton clanger to Daniher
1.2 - Outmarked Daniher in a strong 1 on 1 contest directly in front
1.3 - Fev sneaking around Simpson for a handball receive from a free kick outside 50m
2.3 -Long kick to Fev 1 on 1 with Daniher in front position Fevola moving him out of the way and holding the mark 20m out
3.3 -Short kick from Eddie Betts after a stoppage with Fev beating Daniher on the lead. Daniher very close to Fev but perfect short kick.
3.4 - Can't remember sorry.
3.5 - Daniher pushed into the contest by Fev taking the loose ball and hitting the post
3.6 - Beats Daniher on the lead with Daniher right behind.
3.7 - Fevola marks at 49m after pushing Daniher under the ball in a congested area
4.7 - Fev leading to completey open forward 50m after the ridiculous advantage call to Judd
Apart from this there were 3 clear occasions in which Daniher spolit the ball from Fevola in a marking contest with no help from Fletcher or a 3rd man up.
Not a bad effort I think. Do we think Hurley would've played on him if fit? I'm not sure if he would've had the pace to go with Fev on the lead.
In terms of experience how about this:
- Essendon recruit young defender
- Young defender is the son of a former great Essendon key position player
- Young defender plays on champion Carlton full foward after a couple of games and is beaten in many 1-on-1 contests
- Young defender becomes a champion of the club
Here's hoping Darcy is able to take the final step like Fletcher did :)
stander
14 Apr 2009, 20:11
I thought he did a better job than Joel Reynolds back in those dark Sheedy twilight years.
EssendonPride
14 Apr 2009, 21:18
Daniher was drafted as a forward, and to be honest, you could tell, Fev always managed to lead Daniher on the lead, and was alot smarter as to where he led, Daniher will take great confidence from the second half where he actually got a couple of very good fists to the ball and knocked it 20 - 30 meters to space or over the boundary, not just into the in front Fevola.
Was kinda funny though, best mate was saying how shit Lloyd is and this and that, and I saud, yeah he is still one of the best full forwards today, Fev missed his first two set shots and i said yeah, well done fev, mate said yeah but the big players kick the big goals, home behold, Lloyd kicked 5.1 and Fev 4.7. who was the better full forward, i think we all know the answer to that ;)
Is the bolded bit meant to make sense?
Generally teams kick it to the leading forwards advantage, not the defender. Daniher stuck with him pretty well, but just didn't have the body to effect a spoil. Jury is still very much out on whether he'll make it as a defender, but so far I've seen some pretty decent signs.
He was smart enough to make Fev lead wide on most occasions from what i remember, that's a good start.
Oh, and i think you mean "low and behold".
Ben the Gooner
14 Apr 2009, 21:40
That is quite possibly the worst OP I have ever tried to read.
Lance Uppercut
14 Apr 2009, 22:00
Oh, and i think you mean "low and behold".
or, even, "lo and behold" ;)
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define%3A+low+and+behold&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
EssendonPride
14 Apr 2009, 22:40
or, even, "lo and behold" ;)
http://www.google.com.au/search?q=define%3A+low+and+behold&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a
That's the one :p