View Full Version : Matthew Hayden should be recalled....
Subaru Impreza
21 Apr 2009, 11:26
Hayden scored 65 off 35 last night, and I reckon he would be a great opening batsman for our 2009 ICC Twenty20 world cup in June. Watching the way he played last night, everything he came off just the middle of the bat. I believe he is the best T20 batsman in the world when firing. Im aware that he is not in the 30 man squad at the moment.
With Australia having problems with opening batsman, I would even go to say he could bat as our opening batsman in ODI's as well. (althought im not sure he would be interested in making a comeback)
Thoughts opinion?
PunyHumans!!!
21 Apr 2009, 11:37
Nah, his time has come and gone. He still is a fantastic hitter of the ball however, you just dont turn into mush overnight. Time to move on.
He is doing well over there (IMO) because he does not have that intense scrutiny he was under whilst he was in his slump so here he can just go out and enjoy the game and make a few runs.
Cotchin 9
21 Apr 2009, 13:28
He is using a nice bat.
King Elvis
21 Apr 2009, 14:11
Probably still the best T20 Opening Bat in Australia, but nah, time to move on, sadly, because I love the massive unit.
You can't be serious. Hayden was finished in limited over cricket well before he retired. Surely Hodge is a better opening bat in T20s or ODIs that Hayden. Putting him in the team would act as a wet blanket over the team IMO. When he's in a form slump it effects the whole line-up.
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
21 Apr 2009, 15:12
You can't be serious. Hayden was finished in limited over cricket well before he retired. Surely Hodge is a better opening bat in T20s or ODIs that Hayden. Putting him in the team would act as a wet blanket over the team IMO. When he's in a form slump it effects the whole line-up.
Well before he retired?
Strange, he had a pretty good WC in 2007.
His innings against South Africa in that comp was unbelievable
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
21 Apr 2009, 15:15
Nah, his time has come and gone. He still is a fantastic hitter of the ball however, you just dont turn into mush overnight. Time to move on.
He is doing well over there (IMO) because he does not have that intense scrutiny he was under whilst he was in his slump so here he can just go out and enjoy the game and make a few runs.
I would have thought there'd be just as much pressure, especially on the big names getting paid the big bucks. You don't want to be getting paid 800 000 dollars and not do anything.
He is still a great player, but it was time to move on. He retired lets remember. It was one innings, but it must have been sweet to dish out some hurt to the likes of Kallis and Steyn.:D
baba ganush
21 Apr 2009, 19:10
Still better than Plodge.
Ill Chicken
21 Apr 2009, 20:08
I was disappointed he was dropped from the ODI side. He could have continued on easily, such as Jayasuriya has for Sri Lanka.
unstable punt
22 Apr 2009, 05:25
Hayden scored 65 off 35 last night, and I reckon he would be a great opening batsman for our 2009 ICC Twenty20 world cup in June. Watching the way he played last night, everything he came off just the middle of the bat. I believe he is the best T20 batsman in the world when firing. Im aware that he is not in the 30 man squad at the moment.
With Australia having problems with opening batsman, I would even go to say he could bat as our opening batsman in ODI's as well. (althought im not sure he would be interested in making a comeback)
Thoughts opinion?
hahahahahahahahahahahaha, give it a break, times up, move on
krusden
22 Apr 2009, 10:24
Hayden scored 65 off 35 last night, and I reckon he would be a great opening batsman for our 2009 ICC Twenty20 world cup in June. Watching the way he played last night, everything he came off just the middle of the bat. I believe he is the best T20 batsman in the world when firing. Im aware that he is not in the 30 man squad at the moment.
With Australia having problems with opening batsman, I would even go to say he could bat as our opening batsman in ODI's as well. (althought im not sure he would be interested in making a comeback)
Thoughts opinion?
you're on the same stuff as the commentators suggesting Shane warne should be arecalled aren't ya?
Inre: the T20's, maybe yr argument holds sway at a pinch
Inre: the ODI's: the point made on ONE the other night holds sway - sure he looks great in T20, but it's 40 overs a day NOT 100.
WE could hold onto players like haydos and warney but they're gone mate.
aussie1st
22 Apr 2009, 21:59
Hes surely not going to be around come the WC in 2011 so we have to move on. Could make him a bolter for the T20 WC but that is about it.
Still better than Plodge.
I suppose we should put another NSW champion in like David Warner or Moises Henriques - they have clearly proven their worth haven't they.
OzBomber
23 Apr 2009, 22:49
I bet Haydos wishes he had this form at the start of the year. What no pressure does for you.
LIONS then DAYLIGHT
24 Apr 2009, 01:36
not sure about no pressure, these guys are getting paid good money.You'd feel like a freeloader if you got paid a couple of hundred grand to perform and you end up averaging 15 for the competition.
Subaru Impreza
24 Apr 2009, 18:32
The question I have is, do Australia want to win the Twenty20 World Cup in June this year?
Personally I dont think we can, but our chances would improve a heck of alot if we did have Haydos in our team. No offence but players like: Michael hussey, Michael Clarke, Ricky ponting are not specialist T20 players. They are a tad too slow for this version of the game.
bigpapagman
1 May 2009, 10:06
not so much ponting.
The question I have is, do Australia want to win the Twenty20 World Cup in June this year?
Personally I dont think we can, but our chances would improve a heck of alot if we did have Haydos in our team. No offence but players like: Michael hussey, Michael Clarke, Ricky ponting are not specialist T20 players. They are a tad too slow for this version of the game.
i don't think we (the acb, supporters etc) give a rats tossbag about the T20 world cup in an ashes year
Special Agent Utah
1 May 2009, 11:55
The question I have is, do Australia want to win the Twenty20 World Cup in June this year?
Personally I dont think we can, but our chances would improve a heck of alot if we did have Haydos in our team. No offence but players like: Michael hussey, Michael Clarke, Ricky ponting are not specialist T20 players. They are a tad too slow for this version of the game.
Ricky Ponting is a very good 20/20 player.
Averages just over 31 and has a strike rate over 130. Far worse players in that form of the game. (Internationally)
Would not bother us in the slightest if we do not win the 20/20 IMO. Obviously they will try and win every game they play but i dont think we will be losing too much sleep over it.
King Elvis
1 May 2009, 14:41
This might be an idea that deserves it's own thread, but what if we had our T20 team exclusive as non-Test players (and maybe even non-ODI players)... make it like a development team, under 23s, and over 35s?
Load the ****ing side up with guns like McGrath, Warne, Haydos, Gilly, and then fill the rest of the side up with Phil Hughes, Dave Warner, Henriques, Mitchell Marsh etc...
Imagine how awesome that'd be - and we'd still go alright.
The Young Guns & The old Legends; we'd win a lot, and the experience for the young guys would be incredible, they'd learn a hell of a lot.
Subaru Impreza
1 May 2009, 16:47
This might be an idea that deserves it's own thread, but what if we had our T20 team exclusive as non-Test players (and maybe even non-ODI players)... make it like a development team, under 23s, and over 35s?
Load the ****ing side up with guns like McGrath, Warne, Haydos, Gilly, and then fill the rest of the side up with Phil Hughes, Dave Warner, Henriques, Mitchell Marsh etc...
Imagine how awesome that'd be - and we'd still go alright.
The Young Guns & The old Legends; we'd win a lot, and the experience for the young guys would be incredible, they'd learn a hell of a lot.
that is actually not a bad idea actually.
the players would be fresh, and having played in the IPL would give them advantage over the guys that havent played much of this version
We need to approach one of the formats differently, the ‘main’ team is playing way too much cricket atm.
perthbombersfan
2 May 2009, 02:50
This might be an idea that deserves it's own thread, but what if we had our T20 team exclusive as non-Test players (and maybe even non-ODI players)... make it like a development team, under 23s, and over 35s?
Load the ****ing side up with guns like McGrath, Warne, Haydos, Gilly, and then fill the rest of the side up with Phil Hughes, Dave Warner, Henriques, Mitchell Marsh etc...
Imagine how awesome that'd be - and we'd still go alright.
The Young Guns & The old Legends; we'd win a lot, and the experience for the young guys would be incredible, they'd learn a hell of a lot.
yeah i totally agree.
been saying for ages that the T20 should be used as a breeding ground and a chance to see some of the up and coming players. i like the thought of putting in some old hats too.
could create some pressure situations so we could see how they handle it.
would def take some of the workload off the test and ODI squads, but the only downside is that some of them may see it as a chance to try some new hitting mind games out.
they may also like the thought if playing international cricket in a format they really dont care too much about.
OzBomber
2 May 2009, 11:09
We need to approach one of the formats differently, the ‘main’ team is playing way too much cricket atm.
According to Kasper, we're playing far too many state players, and our ODI and T20 teams aren't being allowed the chance to gel together as a side like our test team is. He says that our test team should also be our One Day team give or take a few specialists and pointed out Phil Hughes and Marcus North as perfect examples.
I agree with him. Hughes is playing brilliantly in tests and scoring quickly, yet we don't keep him back for the ODIs. I don't get it.
Subaru Impreza
8 May 2009, 03:27
well played hayden another great knock
89 off 57
surely he is knocking on the door of the T20 world cup squad now
King Elvis
8 May 2009, 18:36
well played hayden another great knock
89 off 57
surely he is knocking on the door of the T20 world cup squad now
He should be Captaining it.
Seriously, T20 for Kids and Test/ODI Retirees.
Gilly/Warne/McGrath/Haydos are the best T20 players in the world.
Belnakor
9 May 2009, 15:15
the only thing is that Haydos isn't facing up to an attack who have analyzed his game, are playing to a plan, and who are test standard cricketers. Same as usual, Haydos is a flat track bully.
King Elvis
9 May 2009, 18:24
the only thing is that Haydos isn't facing up to an attack who have analyzed his game, are playing to a plan, and who are test standard cricketers. Same as usual, Haydos is a flat track bully.
What?
Warney & Gilly have both said that they've studied the other teams and have plans for their gun batsmen, if you don't think anybody has studied the most dominant batsmen in the comp, you're crazy.
One of the best Test Openers in the history of the game.
Ill Chicken
10 May 2009, 03:10
the only thing is that Haydos isn't facing up to an attack who have analyzed his game, are playing to a plan, and who are test standard cricketers. Same as usual, Haydos is a flat track bully.
I like it Belnakor, you're totally disregarding all the other player performances, using recycled rubbish opinions and not providing any factual evidence to support the above.
Belnakor
11 May 2009, 14:00
What?
Warney & Gilly have both said that they've studied the other teams and have plans for their gun batsmen, if you don't think anybody has studied the most dominant batsmen in the comp, you're crazy.
One of the best Test Openers in the history of the game.
I love Haydos. I like him dismantling subpar bowling.
But he is not facing an international attack.
unstable punt
11 May 2009, 15:11
Hayden scored 65 off 35 last night, and I reckon he would be a great opening batsman for our 2009 ICC Twenty20 world cup in June. Watching the way he played last night, everything he came off just the middle of the bat. I believe he is the best T20 batsman in the world when firing. Im aware that he is not in the 30 man squad at the moment.
With Australia having problems with opening batsman, I would even go to say he could bat as our opening batsman in ODI's as well. (althought im not sure he would be interested in making a comeback)
Thoughts opinion?
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Ill Chicken
12 May 2009, 01:32
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You're right, you're not worth it.
o hai guyz
watz going on heir
The attacks have a lot of local Indian players in them. Also while Haydos has played well he's been lucky in that he's been able to bat in day conditions during I think every match whereas many of the others have to bat under lights which is proving much more difficult, especially when they other team has batted under natural light.
Ill Chicken
13 May 2009, 02:54
You're clutching at straws.
This might be an idea that deserves it's own thread, but what if we had our T20 team exclusive as non-Test players (and maybe even non-ODI players)... make it like a development team, under 23s, and over 35s?
Load the ****ing side up with guns like McGrath, Warne, Haydos, Gilly, and then fill the rest of the side up with Phil Hughes, Dave Warner, Henriques, Mitchell Marsh etc...
Imagine how awesome that'd be - and we'd still go alright.
The Young Guns & The old Legends; we'd win a lot, and the experience for the young guys would be incredible, they'd learn a hell of a lot.
Thats a superb idea, I'd definitely take more interest in the 20/20 games if thats how they worked.
OzBomber
14 May 2009, 16:23
I find it funny that the 2 highest run scorers in the IPL won't be playing in the WC T20.
If I was Punter I'd be ringing Haydos and Gilly and pleading for them to come back.
Blue Dimension
14 May 2009, 22:19
I shrugged off the idea of this thread earlier but now i honestly believe the suggestion has merit. Does anyone think there'd be a possibility of this ocurring?
mattf83
18 May 2009, 21:01
He would first have to make himself avaliable for selection. Its funny because he retired before he was pushed, but if he didnt he would probably be picked.
I think a team with Gilly, Hayden, Warner and Symonds in the top 4 would be almost unbeatable
aussie1st
19 May 2009, 08:42
His consistency in T20 is crazy, averages 54 after 20+ games and continues to score 50 after 50 at a good rate or if the team needs him to settle he does that too.