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blackdiamond
15th February 2001, 14:46
I bet all you Crows supporters are really, really happy tonight! You guys now have a new shed, the old one is going to now become a carpark and you guys are going to have a bigger shed.
After the millions that the Crows have made over the years you would at least think they would have built you guys a club room by now, then again the Crows are not really a club, they are only a team.
A new shed, what a laugh!
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Port Adelaide Forever
Crow54
15th February 2001, 16:08
Well, I guess the millions the Crows have made over the last 10 years have been mostly distributed to the local SANFL clubs (including the Magpies). We are proud to support the SANFL, unlike the other AFL team in South Australia.
blackdiamond
15th February 2001, 16:58
Crow54!
I am extremely sorry that the Port Adelaide Football Club did not give any money back to the SANFL last season, my apologies.
However on the rules of entry for the Port Adelaide Football Club the licence fee had to be paid back faster than any other club before it. The loss for the year 2000 was only small and it is fair to say that if the payments were not so large, and were on par with what Adelaide paid back per year we would have made a profit, therefore making the SANFL very happy.
I think it would be fair to have a spit if we were to make a loss like the Kangaroos however this is not the case.
So what if maybe the Port Adelaide Football Club gave a bit of money to their supporters rather than the SANFL where you think it should truly go.
The Crows are said to be 'The Team For All South Australians', but are they?
If this is so I am sure they would have built you something more than a shed!
Perhaps this further emphasises the difference between a team and a club.
Port Adelaide - Power to the people!
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Port Adelaide Forever
Crow54
16th February 2001, 07:05
Originally posted by Scott:
Crow54!
The Crows are said to be 'The Team For All South Australians', but are they?
If this is so I am sure they would have built you something more than a shed!
Perhaps this further emphasises the difference between a team and a club.
Port Adelaide - Power to the people!
I guess by spreading out our profit to all the SANFL teams, you could say the Crows are a team for all South Aussies, smile.
As for the social club situation, the Crows did have plans for extensions to the present social club, but a bit of hokey-pokey went on with the very same local clubs we support. Apparently none of them wanted the Crows social club to take away support from their own clubs. I think a vocal official from a western suburbs club may have had a bit to do with this, and also a seaside club was planning to upgrade its social amenities.
QT
16th February 2001, 12:49
100 % RIGHT THERE 54
The crows are the team for ALL south Aussies....Not for a Polluted Part of Adelaide like Port...... http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/wink.gif
GO CROWS!
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"I came here to win, I am a winner" - Denzel Washington , Remember The Titans ; 2000
carb70
17th February 2001, 07:42
Originally posted by Crow54:
Well, I guess the millions the Crows have made over the last 10 years have been mostly distributed to the local SANFL clubs (including the Magpies). We are proud to support the SANFL, unlike the other AFL team in South Australia.
C'mon Crow54, Stop it. You always make me laugh. The Crows are proud to support the SANFL, please. You fool the SANFL which includes the 9 clubs actually owns the Crows & Power licences. The Crows aren't doing them a favour by distributing money back to them. They are doing the Crows a favour by letting them represent the SANFL in the AFL. WAKE UP!!!!!.
blackdiamond
17th February 2001, 14:51
QT!
You say the Crows are a 'Team For All South Australians', but you are wrong.
Great the Crows give back money to the SANFL but what about their supporters? They get nothing, are they not also South Australians?
Obviously not the 'Team For All South Australians'.
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Port Adelaide Forever
QT
17th February 2001, 17:12
Originally posted by Scott:
QT!
Great the Crows give back money to the SANFL but what about their supporters? They get nothing, are they not also South Australians?
Obviously not the 'Team For All South Australians'.
HAHAHAHAA
What the hell is that meant to mean???
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"I came here to win, I am a winner" - Denzel Washington , Remember The Titans ; 2000
Crow54
18th February 2001, 05:00
Originally posted by carb70:
C'mon Crow54, Stop it. You always make me laugh. The Crows are proud to support the SANFL, please. You fool the SANFL which includes the 9 clubs actually owns the Crows & Power licences. The Crows aren't doing them a favour by distributing money back to them. They are doing the Crows a favour by letting them represent the SANFL in the AFL. WAKE UP!!!!!.
Your reasoning here is so convoluted I can barely understand it, and I can't believe you're saying the SANFL isn't pleased the Crows are distributing money back to its local clubs. What would happen if NEITHER AFL team sent money back? If the Crows kept all their money would they be better acknowledging the favour the SANFL is doing them?
blackdiamond
20th February 2001, 16:29
My question should read pretty simple, I will spell it out once again.
What have the Crows given their supporters in the years that they have been in the competition, I am not talking about the premierships because that is obvious, but what else have they given them?
It would appear that Port have given their supporters more in the short time that they have been in the competition. At least we have a clubroom, the Crows are still trying to force this stupid shed thing on you, and your taking the bait.
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Port Adelaide Forever
Crow54
21st February 2001, 07:57
If I had the choice of two premierships in 10 years or a Social Club, I'd take the premierships any day...
kirkyno1
21st February 2001, 16:09
I can't believe the dribble coming from the "Power". What have the Crows done for their supporters and the State.
Well after the BankSA debacle earlier in the '90s, they gave hope and inspiration to the State. Where were you when they one their first game in 1991, I know where I was. Where we you when the won their first finals game in 1993, I know where I was. Where were you when the won the first preliminary final in 1997 then again in 1998, I know where I was. And again where were you when the won their first and second flag, I know where I was. They have given memories that Power supporters can't imagine and will forever be in our hearts and minds. The team for ALL South Australians, you bet they are.
PS : We don't need a club room that only fits 4000 people. Give me great memories like above any day.
blackdiamond
21st February 2001, 17:48
Kirkyno1!
First of all if you read my question I said take out the premierships what have the Crows given you, obviously nothing because you had ignore that part, not that I was surprised.
You can thank the Port Adelaide Football Club for getting our state through the State Bank debacle. Hell we would still be playing in the SANFL if Port didn't force the hand of the SANFL, don't tell me it was all the Crows work.
Last of all Im quite happy if you like to celebrate your Crows wins in a shed however it would be much better in a club though.
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Port Adelaide Forever
Crow54
22nd February 2001, 06:04
Originally posted by Scott:
Kirkyno1!
Last of all Im quite happy if you like to celebrate your Crows wins in a shed however it would be much better in a club though.
How would it be better? Better atmosphere, better beer, better chairs? Better toilets, better supporters, better band? Heck, it would be luverly to have a club, but a Crows shed is better to me any day than a Power Palace, lol.
carb70
23rd February 2001, 08:30
Well said Crow54. I'm glad your happy about your tin shed social club. Its great to see the club look after its supporters. I mean even people locked up in jail have better facilities than Crows supporters, it just proves how much the club loves you and no Crow54 because I'm a Port supporter and I used jail as a example it doesn't mean I have spent time there.
Crow54
24th February 2001, 04:55
Originally posted by carb70:
Well said Crow54. I'm glad your happy about your tin shed social club. Its great to see the club look after its supporters. I mean even people locked up in jail have better facilities than Crows supporters, it just proves how much the club loves you and no Crow54 because I'm a Port supporter and I used jail as a example it doesn't mean I have spent time there.
Well Crabby, you have me here, I can't argue on this at all, wouldn't have a clue about the facilities at Yatala or Mobilong or any other jail.... I'm glad you added the last phrase for us, you had me wondering there for a while, lol
Go South
25th February 2001, 14:54
I'm siding with the Port supporters here (and I never thought I'd hear myself say that...)
The club hasn't done SHIT for it's supporters. Sure, they've won a couple of premierships, but what have they done for the fans? Given us a ****ing tin shed, that's what. We have more money than any other club in the competition, and we're given a second rate, derelict tin shed as a replacement for a proper club. Wake up! I'm as much of a Crows supporter as the rest of you, but this is just ridiculous! I mean, we've supported them for 10 years now - spent a shitload of money on tickets, merchandise, and followed the team around the country to games - and we still don't have a proper club for our supporters... If you work it out, most of us have spent thousands of dollars in the past 10 years - I myself spent at least $500 on final trips and tickets in 1997/1998 and that's only two years - and what do we get in return? **** all.
The slogan "The Team For All South Australians" won't mean shit until the club wakes up and realises it needs its supporters... I mean, the club doesn't even sponsor its cheer squad. Instead, the cheer squad spends much of it's revenue on buying things for the club - Come on!
Last year's family day was another joke - Instead of having the players wandering around amongst the fans, etc, like any normal "club", we had "Autograph Booths", where you had to line up for over 1/2 hour, just for a signature. By the time you'd lined up and waited for your particular player, they'd gone, and someone else was there. And god forbid if you wanted to take photos once you got in there! That wasn't allowed! If you wanted a photo, you had to go to the photo booth and pay a stack for one of "their" photos!
I am sick to death of the club wrapping our players in cotton wool - the supporters just aren't allowed to get anywhere near the players anymore... I've waited outside the visitors changerooms at Footy Park before, with some friends who follow other teams, and their club's officials have basically opened the doors to the supporters, and let everyone in to talk to the players and get autographs and everything - Can you imagine the Crows doing that? God no!
Things like this give me the severe shits. Most of us have been loyal supporters since day one - and this Tin Shed is our thanks... it's a joke.
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'...and we won't give up, till the premiership cup is safely in our hands...'
blackdiamond
26th February 2001, 11:10
Go South!
Well Done!
It only took ten days but finally one of you Crows supporters understood my statement.
Just another thing to add as well, we Port supporters can go to the 'Club' 365 days a year, you Crows supporters only have access to the 'Shed' once every two weeks during the Football season.
Can you tell me of another professional sporting club in the world that would limit supporters access like this, you should all be asking Bill Sanders for more.
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Port Adelaide Forever
Go South
26th February 2001, 18:56
Originally posted by Scott:
Go South!
Well Done!
It only took ten days but finally one of you Crows supporters understood my statement.
Just another thing to add as well, we Port supporters can go to the 'Club' 365 days a year, you Crows supporters only have access to the 'Shed' once every two weeks during the Football season.
Can you tell me of another professional sporting club in the world that would limit supporters access like this, you should all be asking Bill Sanders for more.
Yeah, I wrote the club a letter a while ago, but *surprise*, no response.
The point you make about the shed being only open for once every two weeks during the footy season is spot on - I said something about that in the letter I reckon - it's ridiculous... Even if they did find the time to respond to some criticism (like that's ever going to happen), they'd probably just reply and say that we already DO have a social club - which is true - the problem is, it's a ****ing pokey, tiny little hole thing, that serves virtually no purpose whatsoever.
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'...and we won't give up, till the premiership cup is safely in our hands...'
Macca19
26th February 2001, 19:22
Originally posted by Go South:
I'm siding with the Port supporters here (and I never thought I'd hear myself say that...)
The club hasn't done SHIT for it's supporters. Sure, they've won a couple of premierships, but what have they done for the fans? Given us a ****ing tin shed, that's what. We have more money than any other club in the competition, and we're given a second rate, derelict tin shed as a replacement for a proper club. Wake up! I'm as much of a Crows supporter as the rest of you, but this is just ridiculous! I mean, we've supported them for 10 years now - spent a shitload of money on tickets, merchandise, and followed the team around the country to games - and we still don't have a proper club for our supporters... If you work it out, most of us have spent thousands of dollars in the past 10 years - I myself spent at least $500 on final trips and tickets in 1997/1998 and that's only two years - and what do we get in return? **** all.
The slogan "The Team For All South Australians" won't mean shit until the club wakes up and realises it needs its supporters... I mean, the club doesn't even sponsor its cheer squad. Instead, the cheer squad spends much of it's revenue on buying things for the club - Come on!
Last year's family day was another joke - Instead of having the players wandering around amongst the fans, etc, like any normal "club", we had "Autograph Booths", where you had to line up for over 1/2 hour, just for a signature. By the time you'd lined up and waited for your particular player, they'd gone, and someone else was there. And god forbid if you wanted to take photos once you got in there! That wasn't allowed! If you wanted a photo, you had to go to the photo booth and pay a stack for one of "their" photos!
FINALLY a crow supporter that has taken the one eyed goggles off!! I dont beleive any crow supporter that says they are happy with the social facilities down there. They treat it like a business basically!
Ports family fun day was great...players were walking around everywhere, they even had the internal trial that day to give a look a tthe guys in action, they didnt shy away from any photos or anything. Well it does give us another thing to rib crows fans about...it does sound funny when you hear a fan say "you wanna go down the shed after the game"...its just a way of the crows looking more "brutal" or aggresive i guess...they have a reputation of being the chardonnay set...i bet Bill Sanders said at a meeting "lets call it the shed, make it sound more lower class, then we will get rid of the snobby names"
Would you rather spend your time in a nice building which is open whenever, counter meals, pub, pictures and history over the place...or in a shed 11 times a year at the most??
Crow54
27th February 2001, 06:20
Originally posted by Macca19:
building which is open whenever, counter meals, pub, pictures and history over the place...or in a shed 11 times a year at the most??
At the moment I can go to the Crows Social Club at Footy Park for a meal, drink, whatever, and eat my meal under pictures of Crow teams since their inception into the AFL; there are also pictures from our two premiership wins in the top Aussie rules competition, and pictures of our Club Champions and others, plus the two premiership flags. So I have THAT, and a huge shed, which can fit in more supporters than any other social facility in the AFL, big smile.
Go South
27th February 2001, 15:45
Originally posted by Crow54:
At the moment I can go to the Crows Social Club at Footy Park for a meal, drink, whatever, and eat my meal under pictures of Crow teams since their inception into the AFL; there are also pictures from our two premiership wins in the top Aussie rules competition, and pictures of our Club Champions and others, plus the two premiership flags. So I have THAT, and a huge shed, which can fit in more supporters than any other social facility in the AFL, big smile.
Yes, you can go to that pokey little hole and enjoy a meal... but from a club that earns a shitload more money than any other in the league - I expect more.
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'...and we won't give up, till the premiership cup is safely in our hands...'
kirkyno1
27th February 2001, 16:56
Sorry, forgot now what does the Adelaide Football Club do with the shitload of money it makes. Ah, thats right 80% goes back to the SANFL for distribution to the local clubs. Now for the other club, what happens when you distribute 80% of nothing, well believe it or not its NOTHING!!!
Accountants, obviously not, unless of course you setup a foundation which means the funds don't need to get channelled back thru the SANFL. Well, done Port another reason to despise you (as if I didnt have enough).
Macca19
28th February 2001, 06:19
Originally posted by kirkyno1:
Sorry, forgot now what does the Adelaide Football Club do with the shitload of money it makes. Ah, thats right 80% goes back to the SANFL for distribution to the local clubs. Now for the other club, what happens when you distribute 80% of nothing, well believe it or not its NOTHING!!!
Accountants, obviously not, unless of course you setup a foundation which means the funds don't need to get channelled back thru the SANFL. Well, done Port another reason to despise you (as if I didnt have enough).
have a little sook why dont you! Get your dummy out...port have a liscence fee to pay off believe it or not...and we also had to pay it off a llot quicker than the crows did, meaning more money in each payment, which means the money we made got wittled away because of the liscence fee. If you get your blinkers off for 5 minutes youd realise this
Crow54
28th February 2001, 06:29
For those of you who are really worried about the "shed" being just that....
on the Crows website it is written that the new shed will be carpeted, have 5kms of curtains, have a huge sound system, permanent super screen, and a few bars, one of which will have a lounge.
Go South
28th February 2001, 08:43
Originally posted by Crow54:
For those of you who are really worried about the "shed" being just that....
on the Crows website it is written that the new shed will be carpeted, have 5kms of curtains, have a huge sound system, permanent super screen, and a few bars, one of which will have a lounge.
How lovely.
But what about those that can't afford the extra $60 or so for Gold Membership?
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'...and we won't give up, till the premiership cup is safely in our hands...'
kirkyno1
28th February 2001, 14:54
Macca19,
The Crows had also to payoff the licence fee at $400k per year. Admittedly not as high as the Power $800k pa, however the Crows still contributed after payment of their licence fee approx $800k-$1m to the SANFL. Not bad.
Now tell me what have the Power done in their 4 years in the AFL. The SANFL is still waiting for a decent dividend and had to bail them out last year by refinancing the licence fee over a longer term. But I forget, we owe so much to the PAPs. As one well known President would say "Pigs Arse".
Don't let a few facts get in the way of a good story.
Crow54
28th February 2001, 15:47
Originally posted by Go South:
How lovely.
But what about those that can't afford the extra $60 or so for Gold Membership?
Yes, but don't Port Power supporters have to pay extra to go back to the Social Club to see the players? $60 extra is a bit much, but we go without a lot of other things, we get our priorities right! lol.
blackdiamond
28th February 2001, 17:06
Originally posted by Crow54:
For those of you who are really worried about the "shed" being just that....
on the Crows website it is written that the new shed will be carpeted, have 5kms of curtains, have a huge sound system, permanent super screen, and a few bars, one of which will have a lounge.
Crow54!
And how often can the Crows supporters visit this Shed?
Answer: Only about 11 times a year and you pay $60, approximately $5.40 a visit.
At the Port Adelaide Football Club we pay $99 for the year but we are able to visit on 365 days a year, approximately 27c a visit.
5km's of curtain, funny that one, who made it, Mrs Sanders?
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Port Adelaide Forever
QT
28th February 2001, 17:13
Originally posted by Scott:
5km's of curtain, funny that one, who made it, Mrs Sanders?
HAHAHA, ya paying out my team but that was funny!
But the New shed sounds preety cool!
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"I came here to win, I am a winner" - Denzel Washington , Remember The Titans ; 2000
Crow54
1st March 2001, 06:52
Originally posted by Scott:
Crow54!
And how often can the Crows supporters visit this Shed?
Answer: Only about 11 times a year and you pay $60, approximately $5.40 a visit.
At the Port Adelaide Football Club we pay $99 for the year but we are able to visit on 365 days a year, approximately 27c a visit.
As far as I know the Shed will be open for each home game, and probably the Power Showdown home game. BUT that $60 is not only for access to the shed, it does include other benefits.
And I can also visit my Crows Social Club (for nothing) at Footy Park for a meal any time I want, big smile. So I have the best of both worlds.
Geezus!
Now its a port v crows social club war!
HAHAHA
Whats next?
Scott, how are Ports toilets looking?
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"I came here to win, I am a winner" - Denzel Washington , Remember The Titans ; 2000
Go South
1st March 2001, 07:39
Originally posted by Crow54:
As far as I know the Shed will be open for each home game, and probably the Power Showdown home game. BUT that $60 is not only for access to the shed, it does include other benefits.
And I can also visit my Crows Social Club (for nothing) at Footy Park for a meal any time I want, big smile. So I have the best of both worlds.
I'm not prepared to pay $60 for access to "shed parties", voting rights, and priority to Grand Final tickets... $60 for these things is ridiculous. Why not open the shed to all supporters? After all, we're supposed to be the "Team For All South Australians", not the "Team For Those Who Can Afford It".
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'...and we won't give up, till the premiership cup is safely in our hands...'
Macca19
1st March 2001, 14:39
Originally posted by kirkyno1:
Macca19,
The Crows had also to payoff the licence fee at $400k per year. Admittedly not as high as the Power $800k pa, however the Crows still contributed after payment of their licence fee approx $800k-$1m to the SANFL. Not bad.
Now tell me what have the Power done in their 4 years in the AFL. The SANFL is still waiting for a decent dividend and had to bail them out last year by refinancing the licence fee over a longer term. But I forget, we owe so much to the PAPs. As one well known President would say "Pigs Arse".
Don't let a few facts get in the way of a good story.
you contradicted yourself a bit there...you start by saying granted port had to pay it off at 800k a year (double the crows) and then you say, SANFL is still waiting for a decent dividend.
If you ask me, none of the money should go back to the SANFL, im sure they can make there own money...but once our fee has gone we will make a dividend of substantial amount. Now that the fee is down tot he same price per year the crows one was, we will make a divdend. Easy as that.
Macca19
1st March 2001, 14:42
Originally posted by Go South:
I'm not prepared to pay $60 for access to "shed parties", voting rights, and priority to Grand Final tickets... $60 for these things is ridiculous. Why not open the shed to all supporters? After all, we're supposed to be the "Team For All South Australians", not the "Team For Those Who Can Afford It".
haha, i wouldnt pay for voting rights, especially when the crows dont seem to give a rats arse who the supporters vote in.
Go South
1st March 2001, 15:05
Originally posted by Macca19:
haha, i wouldnt pay for voting rights, especially when the crows dont seem to give a rats arse who the supporters vote in.
Yeah, they all have their own agendas...
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'...and we won't give up, till the premiership cup is safely in our hands...'
kirkyno1
1st March 2001, 18:28
Now lets check the Maths again, Macca19.
Crows: $800k to $1m + licence fee ($400k) = $1.2m to $1.4m
Power: Nil + licence fee ($800k) = at best $800k.
Simple arithmetic, I'd say. We wait with anticipation the dividend from the Power. Watch that space.
Crow54
2nd March 2001, 05:38
Originally posted by Go South:
I'm not prepared to pay $60 for access to "shed parties", voting rights, and priority to Grand Final tickets... $60 for these things is ridiculous. Why not open the shed to all supporters? After all, we're supposed to be the "Team For All South Australians", not the "Team For Those Who Can Afford It".
Do other teams have open Social Clubs for all supporters, or just for their "members". Obviously the Crows have decided to have different levels of membership to get a little more money in their coffers. There's a level of membership above the "Gold" category, which I would like to be in, but even with my enthusiasm and prioritising, I draw the line there!!!! That's life. It's like shopping at David Jones - if you can afford it, go for it, if not, live with it.
P.S. Gold m/ship also includes a free ticket to Sunday arvo at the footy, amongst other benefits!
Go South
2nd March 2001, 09:52
Originally posted by Crow54:
Do other teams have open Social Clubs for all supporters, or just for their "members". Obviously the Crows have decided to have different levels of membership to get a little more money in their coffers. There's a level of membership above the "Gold" category, which I would like to be in, but even with my enthusiasm and prioritising, I draw the line there!!!! That's life. It's like shopping at David Jones - if you can afford it, go for it, if not, live with it.
P.S. Gold m/ship also includes a free ticket to Sunday arvo at the footy, amongst other benefits!
Why should we draw the line there and "live with it?" They go on about how we're "The Team For All South Australians" - what a load of crap! They cash in on us enough already, without this "Gold Membership" crap. You get access to the shed parties, voting rights, and what else? It's bullshit - why shouldn't all the supporters be able to go to shed parties? Or at least have the option to buy a "Shed Party" ticket for a few dollars or something...
We're not the Team For All South Australians - we're the team for those who can ****ing afford it. Instead of concentrating on all this crap for the chardonnay sippers, they should actually acknowledge that most of their fan base can't afford an extra $60 a year, on top of the $150 or so that we already have to fork out for our season tickets...
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'...and we won't give up, till the premiership cup is safely in our hands...'
Crow54
2nd March 2001, 15:34
Go South.... stop whinging. I'm certainly no Chardonnay sipper, it makes me really angry to be called that. Why don't you go support the Power if you're so unhappy with the Crows. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if you are really a PAP supporter in disguise, lol.
Go South
2nd March 2001, 18:00
Originally posted by Crow54:
Go South.... stop whinging. I'm certainly no Chardonnay sipper, it makes me really angry to be called that. Why don't you go support the Power if you're so unhappy with the Crows. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if you are really a PAP supporter in disguise, lol.
Well, I'm sorry for having an opinion of my own - unlike most of the rest of you, who seem to glide with what's popular at the time...
I'm as much of a Crows supporter as anyone - I go to every match, as many functions as possible, go to Melbourne at least once a year, and went to the Prelims and Grand Finals in 1997 and 1998.
If I have an opinion about something, I'm going to ****ing voice it! Just because my opinion fails to "arse kiss" the club like practically everyone else on this board - I get abused.
As the Port (shudder) supporter say - Get your blinkers off, for christs sake.
Maybe you're not a chardonnay sipper - I frankly couldn't give a shit, personally. The point I was trying to make, is that the club are so preoccupied with making money, that they're forgetting about the average supporters, that have been loyal to the club from day 1.
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'...and we won't give up, till the premiership cup is safely in our hands...'
Blues_Girl
2nd March 2001, 18:01
Originally posted by Crow54:
Go South.... stop whinging. I'm certainly no Chardonnay sipper, it makes me really angry to be called that. Why don't you go support the Power if you're so unhappy with the Crows. In fact I wouldn't be surprised if you are really a PAP supporter in disguise, lol.
I know Go South irl and he'd rather die than follow port. No one is ever 100% happy with what their club offers then. I've been a Crows season ticket holder and supporter since day one and frankly i'm not happy with half the stuff that happens at the AFC. You only need to look interstate to see what keeps supporters happy, and maybe that's what the AFC needs to start doing keeping it's general supporters that go week in week out no matter what happy,rather than those sipping the chardonnay wearing their Gucci suits only turning up when they feel like it.
I don't think for a moment though that not everyone isn't happy with what they are doing because some are, but for the majority that aren't maybe they need to look at doing something else.
Crow54
3rd March 2001, 06:00
We are going off on tangents here. This topic was originally about the Shed. I think it's good that the Club is improving this facility for its fans, even though it has to limit entrance (at the moment) to those prepared to pay extra.
However, I am definitely not one of those sycophantic fans who agrees with everything the Club does. I have written a couple of letters to Bill Sanders complaining of things I'm not happy with. His replies have been far from agreeable to me. I don't like quite a few of the things the Crows do (or don't do), but the general enjoyment I get from going to games and functions obviously outweighs my dissatisfaction with other areas. This probably applies to fans of most AFL clubs.
Macca19
3rd March 2001, 15:49
Looking at both Go Souths and Crow54s posts i pretty much agree with both of your theories. I tend to sway more toward Go Souths theories, as it does seem like the crows heirachy would rather make money than keep those that actually help make that money (supporters) happy. Most of the crows fans ive come into contact with (i used to be a crow myself believe it or not) are well off and tend to agree with everything the club does...like Graham Cornes http://www.bigfooty.com/ubb/smile.gif There are the normal supporters, plenty of em. All im trying to say is, support the club the way you want to...noone is gonna agree with everything...i certainly font afree with everything Port does...but im happy where my club is heading, im very happy about how things are run and whos in charge down there. What i find great is Port have no quarms in contacting you if you have a problem of some sort...i send the club an email after about round 6 last year (in the trouble period) disagreeing with quite a few things the club was doing. Bucky rang me up and we spoke about what was happening and opinions for about 25 minutes...which i found great, and a lot was cleared up!
GO South, good on you for voicing your opinion and standing up for what you want (as most football supporters, not just crows supporters, tend to go with whatever their club offers)
Crow54, im glad your happy with most of the happenings down at crowland, and may your season be a succesful one for both of you
Crow54
4th March 2001, 05:32
Macca, for a Port supporter, you are an exception to the rule, lol.
Bye the way, Studley doesn't always agree with the Crows, he wasn't a happy chappy with the way Tony Modra was treated.
Paralowiepower
13th February 2005, 21:15
I was just wondering if any of you kind folk could tell me if the Shed was going to be open this Sunday. My cousin is coming down from the farm and was hoping to find a place to park his tractor.
Stiffy_18
13th February 2005, 21:25
I was just wondering if any of you kind folk could tell me if the Shed was going to be open this Sunday. My cousin is coming down from the farm and was hoping to find a place to park his tractor.
I am sure he can park at your place ;)
yob
13th February 2005, 21:29
I am sure he can park at your place ;)
Might be a problem. The front yard's a little pressed for room with the Ute, Kingswood, Torana, Cortina and VH already parked there.
Paralowiepower
13th February 2005, 21:38
Might be a problem. The front yard's a little pressed for room with the Ute, Kingswood, Torana, Cortina and VH already parked there.
But I only borrowed them for a night.
yob
13th February 2005, 22:03
But I only borrowed them for a night.
Borrowed them or "borrowed" them?
macca23
13th February 2005, 22:22
But I only borrowed them for a night.
We're talking the actual cars, not the hubcaps. ;) :D
- PC -
14th February 2005, 00:28
And they have to be complete cars not half shells and half stripped for parts for the Torrie ;)
noddy
14th February 2005, 07:21
Some of these long gone threads make for good reading :)
What ever happened to some of those guys are they back here under a different user name or have they fallen by the wayside ??
crows98
14th February 2005, 08:13
I bet all you Crows supporters are really, really happy tonight! You guys now have a new shed, the old one is going to now become a carpark and you guys are going to have a bigger shed.
After the millions that the Crows have made over the years you would at least think they would have built you guys a club room by now, then again the Crows are not really a club, they are only a team.
A new shed, what a laugh!
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Port Adelaide Forever
All you Port Adelaide morons seem to forget a simple business plan, if it cost more than you will make the likelihood it will BANKRUP you.
The Adelaide Crows have approximately 45,000 season ticket holders given that a clubroom that will allow 4500 people (only 10%) to sit down and have a meal would cost $6 Million dollars to build, but the shed facilities have only cost $1.1 Million dollars that will do the same thing and can hold nearly 6000 people. The extra $4.9 Million dollars will go back into grass roots football so all of South Australia can experience football.
I would rather have the shed that will allow more supporters to mingle and have a beer before and after a game than a place that is small and exclusive to only a gold member, that will allow someone like you (black demons and other Port Power supporters) to then say they are excluding the everyday supporter, because a smaller clubrooms will make it exclusive and that was another reason the AFC didn’t decided to build it.
Another reason the reason the AFC board didn’t build a clubrooms like the Port Adelaide Power Football club did is because they could not justify the expense to build one and decided to think about others who may not support our club, like the cretins at the Port Magpies.
afc9798
14th February 2005, 08:15
have a little sook why dont you! Get your dummy out...port have a liscence fee to pay off believe it or not...and we also had to pay it off a llot quicker than the crows did, meaning more money in each payment, which means the money we made got wittled away because of the liscence fee. If you get your blinkers off for 5 minutes youd realise this
No to mention the money that you had to pay out in fines for tampering with the draft. Just like their supporters, the club can't play by the rules. Ah Port Adelaide, founded by criminals, built up by criminals for the criminals. Leopards don't change their spots, even when they wear suits;)
portentous
14th February 2005, 08:20
No to mention the money that you had to pay out in fines for tampering with the draft. Just like their supporters, the club can't play by the rules. Ah Port Adelaide, founded by criminals, built up by criminals for the criminals. Leopards don't change their spots, even when they wear suits;)
I'm more "tiger" than leopard.......
Crowked
14th February 2005, 08:21
What have the Crows given their supporters in the years that they have been in the competition, I am not talking about the premierships because that is obvious, but what else have they given them?
Think not what your club can do for you, but what you can do for your club. ;)
portentous
14th February 2005, 08:22
Think not what your club can do for you, but what you can do for your club. ;)
You mean like running the scoreboard at trial games?? ;)
Crowked
14th February 2005, 08:36
You mean like running the scoreboard at trial games?? ;)
If need be.
I mean, bricks and mortar doesnt make a club. Its just a building. We play at our AAMI stadium, we go to the shed, a social club building is not a huge priority or problem.
It seems to bother Port people more than us.
Markthirtytwo
14th February 2005, 08:42
If need be.
I mean, bricks and mortar doesnt make a club. Its just a building. We play at our AAMI stadium, we go to the shed, a social club building is not a huge priority or problem.
It seems to bother Port people more than us.
The other topic they mentioned was getting close to the players after a game.
WTF why? They have just played their guts out and dont want or need supoprters up their clacker wanting autographs and just being annoying.
Those days are over. If you want to get up close and personal go to a club social bbq or something.
Paying your membership money doesnt give you the right to hound them whenever you want.
portentous
14th February 2005, 08:48
If need be.
I mean, bricks and mortar doesnt make a club. Its just a building. We play at our AAMI stadium, we go to the shed, a social club building is not a huge priority or problem.
It seems to bother Port people more than us.
"Blackdiamond" and I , with others, DID run the scoreboard at the trial game on Saturday.
I don't go to post match functions anyway. Prefer to see the players train than put up with all the push and shove at the post match. It's so much easier to get photos, autographs etc at training... :D
Jumbo
14th February 2005, 08:52
We play at our AAMI stadium
You play at the SANFL's AAMI stadium, your home oval is Max's Reserve
Crowked
14th February 2005, 09:04
You play at the SANFL's AAMI stadium, your home oval is Max's Reserve
thats funny they seem to have attached it to our club rooms. ;)
Crowked
14th February 2005, 09:08
"Blackdiamond" and I , with others, DID run the scoreboard at the trial game on Saturday.
I don't go to post match functions anyway. Prefer to see the players train than put up with all the push and shove at the post match. It's so much easier to get photos, autographs etc at training... :D
Good onya. I wasnt critisising you or anyone else. Just stating that a social club room building isnt what its about, its the social club that is.
Blackdiamond seems to be more concerned with our club than his/hers.
portentous
14th February 2005, 09:10
Good onya. I wasnt critisising you or anyone else. Just stating that a social club room building isnt what its about, its the social club that is.
Blackdiamond seems to be more concerned with our club than his/hers.
Give him a break-he had to put up with me for hours on end on Saturday! The hardest job in the book imo. :D
Crowked
14th February 2005, 09:13
The other topic they mentioned was getting close to the players after a game.
WTF why? They have just played their guts out and dont want or need supoprters up their clacker wanting autographs and just being annoying.
Those days are over. If you want to get up close and personal go to a club social bbq or something.
Paying your membership money doesnt give you the right to hound them whenever you want.
The Crows put on enough functions for this purpose, including making players available after the games. So they have a building and we have a shed, meh.......Care factor = 0.
dA Crow
14th February 2005, 09:15
I bet all you Crows supporters are really, really happy tonight! You guys now have a new shed, the old one is going to now become a carpark and you guys are going to have a bigger shed.
After the millions that the Crows have made over the years you would at least think they would have built you guys a club room by now, then again the Crows are not really a club, they are only a team.
A new shed, what a laugh!
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Port Adelaide Forever
I thought that your club was the "working class" club? Surely someone from such a club shouldnt be putting down a working class enviroment where people from the Crows meet... but I suppose that you can enjoy your multi-million dollar port club from a poor eco-social stand point, yet still feel inferior.
Crowked
14th February 2005, 09:16
Give him a break-he had to put up with me for hours on end on Saturday! The hardest job in the book imo. :D
Yeh, I feel a little sorry for him. :p
dA Crow
14th February 2005, 09:17
I was just wondering if any of you kind folk could tell me if the Shed was going to be open this Sunday. My cousin is coming down from the farm and was hoping to find a place to park his tractor.
Ho ho ho... and this is funny how? Just tell them, assuming they are a swampy as well, to steal a normal car.
portentous
14th February 2005, 09:19
Ho ho ho... and this is funny how? Just tell them, assuming they are a swampy as well, to steal a normal car.
What do YOU drive again?? ;)
JP83
14th February 2005, 09:24
The Crows arent interested in their supporters or the state. Would the team for all South Australians drop a long time local sponsor of football and the crows such as west end for a victiorian company like carlton?
As for the shed i think its an appropriate venue. If crows supporters actually made some noise and got involved during the game rather than listen to radio so that KG can tell them whats going on then maybe a social club of SANFL standard would be warranted.
dA Crow
14th February 2005, 09:29
What do YOU drive again?? ;)
http://www.wildcatmopars.com/Images/NewCarArrival86.jpg
Blue Red and Gold
14th February 2005, 09:31
The Crows arent interested in their supporters or the state. Would the team for all South Australians drop a long time local sponsor of football and the crows such as west end for a victiorian company like carlton?
As for the shed i think its an appropriate venue. If crows supporters actually made some noise and got involved during the game rather than listen to radio so that KG can tell them whats going on then maybe a social club of SANFL standard would be warranted.
Ahh West End dropped Adelaide because they felt they were not able to get enough exposure because of the CUB AFL deal. I wouldnt be surprised that when your deal with West End runs out next year they will cut you aswell :rolleyes:
Now run along like a good little boy.
portentous
14th February 2005, 09:33
http://www.wildcatmopars.com/Images/NewCarArrival86.jpg
And I thought you all drove 4WD's/AWD's.......
:D
JP83
14th February 2005, 09:47
Ahh West End dropped Adelaide because they felt they were not able to get enough exposure because of the CUB AFL deal. I wouldnt be surprised that when your deal with West End runs out next year they will cut you aswell :rolleyes:
Now run along like a good little boy.
Got a quote from west end to back that up?? Or is that the crow party line on the issue?
Blue Red and Gold
14th February 2005, 09:59
Got a quote from west end to back that up?? Or is that the crow party line on the issue?
No I dont, I heard this I think on 5aa when someone was interview Steven Trigg possibly.
I could ask you the same thing! Where is your quote saying Adelaide dumped WE? ;) :D
Malibu#27
14th February 2005, 10:36
Just wondering (not ******** stirring) ... as I'd never really thought about it before, but do the Crows have clubroom facilities in the AAMI complex.
I.e - at Alberton during the week you can go in there look around, look at the premiership cup, see honour boards, have a beer or a meal etc ?
similarly at other SANFL clubs such as Centrals etc.
noddy
14th February 2005, 10:39
Just wondering (not ******** stirring) ... as I'd never really thought about it before, but do the Crows have clubroom facilities in the AAMI complex.
I.e - at Alberton during the week you can go in there look around, look at the premiership cup, see honour boards, have a beer or a meal etc ?
similarly at other SANFL clubs such as Centrals etc.
Yes
maccas_no1
14th February 2005, 11:09
I was just wondering if any of you kind folk could tell me if the Shed was going to be open this Sunday. My cousin is coming down from the farm and was hoping to find a place to park his tractor.
Gee another Port Comedian :rolleyes: You went through and dug up a thread from 2001 :rolleyes:
maccas_no1
14th February 2005, 11:16
Just wondering (not ******** stirring) ... as I'd never really thought about it before, but do the Crows have clubroom facilities in the AAMI complex.
I.e - at Alberton during the week you can go in there look around, look at the premiership cup, see honour boards, have a beer or a meal etc ?
similarly at other SANFL clubs such as Centrals etc.
You dont goto AAMI Stadium very often do you??? Actually being a Port Supporter I reakon you would struggle to find it on a map.
Paralowiepower
14th February 2005, 11:34
You dont goto AAMI Stadium very often do you??? Actually being a Port Supporter I reakon you would struggle to find it on a map.
What your honour board etc etc is in the outer? How would a Port supporter see it going to our games? I thought it was a reasonable question. Obviously you don't know the answer otherwise you might of answered the question.
Paralowiepower
14th February 2005, 11:36
Gee another Port Comedian :rolleyes: You went through and dug up a thread from 2001 :rolleyes:
Took you all day to work that out did it? Why don't you lighten up a little. I reckon you stress more than KG.
maccas_no1
14th February 2005, 11:52
What your honour board etc etc is in the outer? How would a Port supporter see it going to our games? I thought it was a reasonable question. Obviously you don't know the answer otherwise you might of answered the question.
Well our club shop, administration building's and club rooms are all on the outside of AAMI arent they???? They take up about half of the outside of AAMI Stadium.
Crowked
14th February 2005, 11:52
What your honour board etc etc is in the outer? How would a Port supporter see it going to our games? I thought it was a reasonable question. Obviously you don't know the answer otherwise you might of answered the question.
Just go into the big Crows building on the outer side, inside you will find everything you are looking for.
I dont know that it will be open for Port games though, infact they probably lock everything thats not bolted down in a safe for Port games. ;)
maccas_no1
14th February 2005, 11:53
Took you all day to work that out did it? Why don't you lighten up a little. I reckon you stress more than KG.
Why dont you pull your head in :mad: 5 mins in a room with you would have you sorted out, just 5mins :mad:
maccas_no1
14th February 2005, 11:54
Just go into the big Crows building on the outer side, inside you will find everything you are looking for.
I dont know that it will be open for Port games though, infact they probably lock everything thats not bolted down in a safe for Port games. ;)
Yeah also inside there you will find TWO AFL Premiership Cups not just one
2>1
- PC -
14th February 2005, 12:24
The other topic they mentioned was getting close to the players after a game.
WTF why? They have just played their guts out and dont want or need supoprters up their clacker wanting autographs and just being annoying.
Those days are over. If you want to get up close and personal go to a club social bbq or something.
Paying your membership money doesnt give you the right to hound them whenever you want.
But Mark they come from Wingfield way these Port boys and at Wingfield you can even join in the fights if you want.
I agree those days are over...if you want to smell and see up close your favourite footballers , go down to your local club , whether it be Wingfield or Sacred Heart Old Scholars or Encounter Bay
portentous
14th February 2005, 13:11
Just go into the big Crows building on the outer side, inside you will find everything you are looking for.
I dont know that it will be open for Port games though, infact they probably lock everything thats not bolted down in a safe for Port games. ;)
You mean the building covered in grafitti? :p
Crowked
14th February 2005, 13:25
You mean the building covered in grafitti? :p
No we have the graffiti and urine stains washed off after every Power game. ;)
afc9798
14th February 2005, 14:06
Got a quote from west end to back that up?? Or is that the crow party line on the issue?
The fantastic local company that you have referred to is actually a New Zealand company and all of their profits go out of this country. At least CUB is Australian and the profits are retained in this country. West End = Foul tasting brew made by a foreign company vs Coopers= Beautiful beer made by a local company, I know which I support in drinking terms. West End= NZ, CUB= Australia- I know which of the two I prefer.
Paralowiepower
14th February 2005, 15:04
Why dont you pull your head in :mad: 5 mins in a room with you would have you sorted out, just 5mins :mad:
You really should seek help!
Stiffy_18
14th February 2005, 15:04
The Crows arent interested in their supporters or the state. Would the team for all South Australians drop a long time local sponsor of football and the crows such as west end for a victiorian company like carlton?
As for the shed i think its an appropriate venue. If crows supporters actually made some noise and got involved during the game rather than listen to radio so that KG can tell them whats going on then maybe a social club of SANFL standard would be warranted.
http://img24.exs.cx/img24/9544/rolleyesmilie0iu.gif
Stiffy_18
14th February 2005, 15:05
Got a quote from west end to back that up?? Or is that the crow party line on the issue?
And you got a quote from West End supporting your argument??????
********er :rolleyes:
maccas_no1
14th February 2005, 15:45
No we have the graffiti and urine stains washed off after every Power game. ;)
Port Power Cheer Squad voluteer to do it ;)
maccas_no1
14th February 2005, 15:46
You really should seek help!
Me seek help your the sad lil ******** that has dug up a thread from 4 yrs ago to try and have a laugh, what cant think of your own material :rolleyes:
portentous
14th February 2005, 16:31
Port Power Cheer Squad voluteer to do it ;)
Another good reason not to be in it.......one of many I might add. :D
noddy
14th February 2005, 17:22
http://img24.exs.cx/img24/9544/rolleyesmilie0iu.gif
That is so hypnotic Stiffyyyyyyyyyyyyy.
By your command. :cool:
Jerome
14th February 2005, 18:27
Have to agree with Go South in regards to the all we get is a tin shed comments and the treatment the fans receive from the club.
I don't regularly visit the shed and I think the redecorated Crows Tavern is a shocker.
For mine, I think we should have invested in a pub in the CBD by now. It amazes me that we call ourselves the Adelaide Football Club and yet we don't have a presence in the Adelaide CBD.
SpringChoke
14th February 2005, 18:44
Have to agree with Go South in regards to the all we get is a tin shed comments and the treatment the fans receive from the club.
I don't regularly visit the shed and I think the redecorated Crows Tavern is a shocker.
For mine, I think we should have invested in a pub in the CBD by now. It amazes me that we call ourselves the Adelaide Football Club and yet we don't have a presence in the Adelaide CBD.
The Mad Donkey has a big screen, maybe we could congregate there. :cool:
blackdiamond
14th February 2005, 22:07
Some of these long gone threads make for good reading :)
What ever happened to some of those guys are they back here under a different user name or have they fallen by the wayside ??
Yes it is nice to see a few old threads bumped up every now and then, even one of my own.
Hell it is showdown week, nothing like a bit of good old banter.
You must admit though when the announcement was made it did raise a few eyebrow's and created a few laughs.
I still can't think of a team that plays a professional sport and has to resort to a shed for its clubrooms.
But if that is what you like who am I to argue?