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DoubleO7
27 Apr 2009, 09:17
Saeed Ajmal, the Pakistan offspinner, has expressed surprise at being reported for a suspect action, and believes Shane Watson might have played a role in drawing the umpires' attention to his doosra. Ajmal suspected Watson spoke with Asad Rauf and Billy Bowden about his bowling action during the second one-day international at the Dubai Sports City Stadium; two days after he had befuddled Australia's batsmen with a series of doosras in a spell of 2-19

Saeed Ajmal reported for suspect action (http://content.cricinfo.com/pakvaus2009/content/current/story/401604.html)

Blaming a player for your failure of a bowling action is a disgrace. :thumbsd:

Simon_Nesbit
27 Apr 2009, 10:25
Fair enough too. Problem is after letting the subcontintental teams wield their power over Murali, there is little anyone can do about it now.

Australia needs to stop coaching their spinners on correct technique, and allow those kids that throw the ball to progress beyond the u/12s.

Playing within the rules of the game limits spinners to the extent that anyone that makes it through is rendered virtually useless.

I remember reading about a 'coaching support' group that went to the subcontinent about 10 years ago now - think they were from the Academy, but not sure. In their findings, they over 50 bowlers at "first class" level with suspect actions that required coaching to fix. They were told never to return.

SBI
27 Apr 2009, 10:25
Eh, the action looks dodgy. Let's see what they do.

XFactor1979
27 Apr 2009, 12:42
how bleedingly obvious is it that whenever a spin bowler bowls a doosra do the australians cry foul over it?

in many ways, its almost physically impossible to bowl a doosra without chucking it

DoubleO7
27 Apr 2009, 12:48
in many ways, its almost physically impossible to bowl a doosra without chucking it
Except for Ajantha Mendis and Saqlain Mushtaq, of course...

Simon_Nesbit
27 Apr 2009, 14:22
Mushtaq's the only one I've seen where you don't immediately think 'chuck' when he bowls it.

I haven't seen Mendis apart from a youtube, so won't comment on him.

crownie
27 Apr 2009, 14:46
how bleedingly obvious is it that whenever a spin bowler bowls a doosra do the australians cry foul over it?

in many ways, its almost physically impossible to bowl a doosra without chucking it

well its not fair that Australian off spinners have to bowl properly while Asian spinners are allowed to chuck and bowl there Doosras.

King Elvis
27 Apr 2009, 15:42
how bleedingly obvious is it that whenever a spin bowler bowls a doosra do the australians cry foul over it?

in many ways, its almost physically impossible to bowl a doosra without chucking it


Exactly, so why shouldn't the Australians complain about it?

I think the Doosra should be an illegal delivery, full stop.

DT_fanatic
27 Apr 2009, 16:07
If it was so obvious then you'd think the Aussies would be able to pick the doosra quite easily.

Ricketts
27 Apr 2009, 16:13
in many ways, its almost physically impossible to bowl a doosra without chucking it

well its not fair that Australian off spinners have to bowl properly while Asian spinners are allowed to chuck and bowl there Doosras.

quoted for truth. :thumbsu:

Good to see the authorities on to this guy quick-smart.

Ricketts
27 Apr 2009, 16:16
If it was so obvious then you'd think the Aussies would be able to pick the doosra quite easily.

umm, we can. It's why we play Murali so comfortably.

And we'll play this Ajmal bloke comfortably too for the rest of his career, doosra or no doosra.

Only reason he had success in game 1 was because we hadn't seen him before. But one look is all we need to work him out.

Belnakor
27 Apr 2009, 18:02
Mushtaq's the only one I've seen where you don't immediately think 'chuck' when he bowls it.

I haven't seen Mendis apart from a youtube, so won't comment on him.

Mushtaq bowls it differently to everyone else iirc, the new ones who throw have essentially copied Murali's doosra.

Barts
27 Apr 2009, 18:21
Mendis and Mushtaq use a different technique all together. They use their ring finger rather than their wrist, elbow and shoulder.

Jack Gleeson used to bowl his leggies like that way back when.

Cooldude
27 Apr 2009, 20:04
Mendis uses his third finger to flick it the other way, it's not actually a top spinner or an overspinning leg break like all these doorsas that chuckers do. They don't even call it the doorsa, it's the carrom ball

Saqlain's doorsa was legal because he doesn't try to bowl it like a leg break, it is the closest to a top spinner. He is the only one who bowls a genuine doosra that doesn't chuck

King Elvis
27 Apr 2009, 22:56
At least the Commentators are making some strong, definitive statements about the way the majority of people bowl the Doosra.

XFactor1979
27 Apr 2009, 23:42
i think aaron heal is an australian offspinner that gets in trouble for bowling the one that goes the other way

Zesers
28 Apr 2009, 07:32
Dean Jones started asking why Hauritz wouldn't learn a doosra - first in the match coverage, then in this article at http://www.sundaytimes.lk/090426/Sports/sp210.html. I wondered when he said it whether Hauritz would want to put himself through the stress of having his action questioned.

XFactor1979
28 Apr 2009, 22:55
it was suggested to jason krejza that he should learn to bowl a doosra...

not if he doesnt want to get REPORTED!

DoubleO7
29 Apr 2009, 17:18
i think aaron heal is an australian offspinner that gets in trouble for bowling the one that goes the other way

Dean Jones started asking why Hauritz wouldn't learn a doosra - first in the match coverage, then in this article at http://www.sundaytimes.lk/090426/Sports/sp210.html. I wondered when he said it whether Hauritz would want to put himself through the stress of having his action questioned.

it was suggested to jason krejza that he should learn to bowl a doosra...

not if he doesnt want to get REPORTED!
....

I can teach Australians the doosra - Saqlain (http://content.cricinfo.com/pakvaus2009/content/story/401970.html?CMP=OTC-RSS)

Power21
30 Apr 2009, 22:24
I can't believe he is only 32, find it hard to believe he couldn't still contribute with the ball at higher levels.

Give him a crack i reckon, if he does prove to be a good coach well we will have a few decent spinners to choose from.

Blue Dimension
1 May 2009, 19:25
If Saqlain could teach Krejza how to bowl the doosra...

i think aaron heal is an australian offspinner that gets in trouble for bowling the one that goes the other way

Heal is a left armer. Afaik he's never been in any trouble with his action.