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OldSchool
26 Jan 2003, 06:17
Just some observations from the series

Lee improved dramatically when McGrath got injured.
Williams is a viable option
Watson was starting to play well when he got injured
Symonds is a very lucky cricketer to get a game
Hogg is a better one day cricketer than most thought he was
Bevan is not playing as well as seasons gone by and is a liability in the field
Martyn is to patchy with his form

Other notes
Harvey getting added to the squad was because of 'potential' not form
Noffke unlucky not to be given a chance during the series
Bracken is a viable option
Campbell was unlucky not to be selected in the squad given that Symonds was

St-KriS
26 Jan 2003, 08:16
Originally posted by OldSchool

Symonds is a very lucky cricketer to get a game


Truer words were never spoken.

Unwritten_Law
26 Jan 2003, 10:07
Originally posted by OldSchool


Lee improved dramatically when McGrath got injured.
That nice new shiny white ball has improved Lee ten fold. If Gillespie and McGrath both play in the world cup maybe it is worth holding one of them back to first change. It hasn't worked in the past with McGrath but Lee will probably go back to getting hammered at first change

Williams is a viable option
Took his chance

Watson was starting to play well when he got injured
He hasn't had much of a chance with the bat but his bowling has definetly improved. He missed a big opportunity with the bat yesterday and he couldn't have done worse than Symonds :p

Symonds is a very lucky cricketer to get a game
If he is played as our no 1 all-rounder in the World Cup we might as well kiss it goodbye already. Surely even playing Bichel as the all-rounder is a more viable option.

Hogg is a better one day cricketer than most thought he was
Hey Victorians, should Cameron White still get in the team infront of Hogg :rolleyes:

Bevan is not playing as well as seasons gone by and is a liability in the field
Bring on Maher/Clarke

Martyn is to patchy with his form
A bit tough. IMO could be the barometer of our success in the world cup. If early wickets fall he is the key player in the middle order with no Bevan.

Other notes

Harvey getting added to the squad was because of 'potential' not form
Did a good job in the 'A' game versus Sri Lanka. I'm not his biggest fan but who else is there really? I'll also add that it is no different to the original selections of Symonds and Watson

Noffke unlucky not to be given a chance during the series
When I first saw him I thought 'the next McGrath', I haven't heard much of him lately, form?

Bracken is a viable option
See Williams

Campbell was unlucky not to be selected in the squad given that Symonds was
Ah but can Campbell play as a specialist 12th man

My observation:

* The top 3 (Hayden, Gilchrist, Ponting) will decide our world cup fate.

JUBJUB
26 Jan 2003, 10:09
Originally posted by OldSchool

Martyn is to patchy with his form



So is Ponting.He got 2 centuries,but the other innings were all below 18 runs.

St-KriS
26 Jan 2003, 10:11
Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
Originally posted by OldSchool

When I first saw him I thought 'the next McGrath', I haven't heard much of him lately, form?



Im pretty sure he was injuried...missed a pura cup match. Because surely he would have been ahead of Bracken after Noffke after his performances in the A Teams. But having said that, I thought Bracken did a great job. Definetly a future test player.

Unwritten_Law
26 Jan 2003, 10:12
Originally posted by JUBJUB
So is Ponting.He got 2 centuries,but the other innings were all below 18 runs.

Ponting is the MCG specialist.

edit: my memory isn't too good :D

Only scored 5 out of 11 tons at the 'G. thought it was more than that.

OldSchool
26 Jan 2003, 11:22
Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
Originally posted by OldSchool

Martyn is to patchy with his form
A bit tough. IMO could be the barometer of our success in the world cup. If early wickets fall he is the key player in the middle order with no Bevan.

Wouldn't that also apply to Lehmann ?

Campbell was unlucky not to be selected in the squad given that Symonds was
Ah but can Campbell play as a specialist 12th man

The answer to that is no however, if there was an injury or two to batsmen who would you prefer at no 6 ?

topjars
26 Jan 2003, 11:42
Hogg is a great player. Is he in the World Cup Squad?

St-KriS
26 Jan 2003, 11:58
Originally posted by topjars
Hogg is a great player. Is he in the World Cup Squad?

Yep. Originally as the backup spinner...but now it looks like he'll be our No.1 All Rounder.

Darky
26 Jan 2003, 13:13
Harvey's selection might be because of the "like for like" selection criteria. IIRC has had an injury-interrupted season, and his record at the highest level is pretty ordinary.

The "potential" tag should no longer apply. He is three months short of 31, is in his tenth year of F/C cricket and has probably 3 years left in him.

scmods
26 Jan 2003, 15:43
Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
Ponting is the MCG specialist.

edit: my memory isn't too good :D

Only scored 5 out of 11 tons at the 'G. thought it was more than that.
All of his ODI 100's scored in Australia have been at the MCG.

GoEagles
26 Jan 2003, 17:10
Originally posted by Unwritten_Law
Ponting is the MCG specialist.


Doesn't help us much if the World Cup is in Africa :D
Ponting has been like a yo-yo in the One Day form lately.

Zombie
26 Jan 2003, 18:56
This is how I rate our players in each category, Bowling is pretty much a given not many can disagree with that.

Pace Bowlers
1. McGrath
2. Lee
3. Gillespie
4. Bichel
5. Bracken
6. Williams
7. Noffke

Batsmen
1. Hayden
2. Ponting
3. Gilchrist
4. Martyn
5. Bevan
6. Lehmann
7. Langer
8. Clarke
9. Maher
10. S.Waugh

Spinners
1. Warne
2. Hogg
3. MacGill

All-rounders
1. I.Harvey
2. B.Hogg
3. S.Watson
4. A.Symonds
5. G.Blewett