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ENGLAND VS WEST INDIES
LORD'S, LONDON
06th to 10th MAY 2009
Start time:1100 BST (2100 AEST?)
England 1st test team (probable)
Andrew Strauss (c)
Alastair Cook
Ravi Bopara
Kevin Pietersen
Paul Collingwood
Matt Prior (wk)
Stuart Broad
Tim Bresnan
Graeme Swann
Graham Onions
James Anderson
12th man:Monty Panesar
England will decide to go with 2 spinners or 4 seamers, 2 new faces in the team in Onions, who has impressed for Durham in recent seasons, and Bresnan who has featured in a few ODI's. Bresnan adds a bit more to the batting but is not good enough to be a legitamite all rounder. 2 spinners in May at Lord's would be very unlikely to Monty will probably be left out. Ravvi Bopara is back in the team and will bat at 3.
West Indies 1st test team (possible)
Chris Gayle (capt)
Devon Smith
Ramnaresh Sarwan
Lendl Simmons
Shivnarine Chanderpaul
Brendan Nash
Denesh Ramdin (wk)
Darren Sammy
Jerome Taylor
Sulieman Benn
Fidel Edwards
WI will probably stick with the same team they persisted with through the home series apart from the ommitance of Daren Powell for Darren Sammy. The tourists have had some controversy but will be underdogs once again and they will surely provide a tough test for England at the start of an important English cricket summer.
Little bit of a new look England side there. Will be interesting to see how this test pans out.
I read somewhere this is the earliest start for a Test in an English summer ever ... still a bit cold over there I'd imagine?
Grimwood
6 May 2009, 17:52
I read somewhere this is the earliest start for a Test in an English summer ever ... still a bit cold over there I'd imagine?
We had a good April, but things have cooled down and got a bit wetter over the last week.
15 - 18 degrees; cloudy; showers forecast; clear on Saturday.
Grimwood
6 May 2009, 20:32
26/0
Seem to have imported the ARG pitch. No wonder Gayle didn't bother to acclimatise..
If Ravi Bopara is batting 3 for England when the Ashes roll around they might as well just concede now...
88/1 at Lunch, decent first session for England after being put in. Not too many chances for The West Indies.
DoubleO7
6 May 2009, 22:37
Well a good session for England after they were sent in by Gayle. Strauss was the only man to be dismissed by Taylor early on. These two have been playing confidently and have so far managed to put up 60 runs for the second wicket. For West Indies, Baker bowled well but was unfortunate to not pick up any wickets.
Expect KP to dazzle here!!
Little bit of a new look England side there. Will be interesting to see how this test pans out.
I read somewhere this is the earliest start for a Test in an English summer ever ... still a bit cold over there I'd imagine?
Very true
No Bell, Flintoff, Harmison and Vaughan. And Monty is 12th man.
And, for the life of me, I can't think of the name of the left armer with the longish hair. He aint there either.
Very true
No Bell, Flintoff, Harmison and Vaughan. And Monty is 12th man.
And, for the life of me, I can't think of the name of the left armer with the longish hair. He aint there either.
Sidebottom, he's playing for Notts but i don't think he's test match fit just yet, he's probably still in the mix for the summer though.
Cook bowled, here comes KP.
DoubleO7
6 May 2009, 23:00
Very true
No Bell, Flintoff, Harmison and Vaughan. And Monty is 12th man.
And, for the life of me, I can't think of the name of the left armer with the longish hair. He aint there either.
Ryan 'sexual chocolate' Sidebottom is your man.
This new look England side is, dare I say, 'ugly'. I think the England selectors purposely left at those players to give them a rest before the up and coming Ashes series.
With Flintoff and Sidebottom, you have a legitimate reason for their non selections (injuries, fitness).
Leaving Panesar out of the starting XI was the correct choice, IMO. As a bowler he does not offer as much variation as Swann would and as far as batting is concerned, Swann has him covered.
And there he goes, Beautiful delivery from Edwards, done him up like a kipper.
DoubleO7
6 May 2009, 23:03
And there he goes, Beautiful delivery from Taylor, done him up like a kipper.
Seaming pitch?
Seaming pitch?
Well as with all early season pitches there is a little bit of movement and in the air as well but not excessive, just got it angling in nicely and KP had to play at it otherwise he would have been bowled.
Unplayable delivery, not fair.
PalaceGun
6 May 2009, 23:21
Expect KP to dazzle here!!
"Dazzling" back in the sheds in front of a mirror, more like... :D
Thanks for coming, KP.
Collingwood gone now, 3 wickets for Edwards after lunch. England's long tail could be exposed here.
DoubleO7
6 May 2009, 23:47
A half century for the number three in the form of a one Ravinder Bopara. That'll give him and the selectors some much needed confidence going forward in finding a reliable #3.
PalaceGun
6 May 2009, 23:53
Feeling even more confident and reliable with Steve Davis keeping his finger down...
Good recovery from the poms. Evenly poised at tea, be good to see Bopara go on to make a 100
XFactor1979
7 May 2009, 02:00
i'd hate to face fidel edwards when hes in a mood...
England stage a nice recovery to finish 7/289 @ stumps on day 1 with Bopara 118*
i'd hate to face fidel edwards when hes in a mood...
I think that was a problem in the past now he always seems to be in the mood and has turned into a top bowler .I think its more injury than mood that affects him .
England could have been all out for 180 with the ball doing quite a bit
DoubleO7
7 May 2009, 13:28
Well an interesting days of play at Lords. England were placed comfortably till lunch but after lunch, Edwards struck twice in 2 balls and the momentum swung in visitor's favour. Bopara held the innings together with a fighting century to stay unbeaten till the end.
West Indies were pathetic in the field and dropped too many catches and let England pile on. England will count themselves lucky to end the day at 289, a score which looked improbable at one stage.
Ray Nolan
7 May 2009, 14:11
If Ravi Bopara is batting 3 for England when the Ashes roll around they might as well just concede now...
You were saying?
I'd rather we had Bopara at 3 than Shah, he's just far too inconsistent for mine. Although if Vaughan could find his 2002/3 form again ...
Cooldude
7 May 2009, 15:29
Edwards has really stood up the past half a year. He's now basically bowling pretty good consistent 140kph+ outswingers. Difficult to face for anyone. The one that got Pietersen was just perfection. Was out whether he nick it or not
Bopara has a very good technique. Seems to do most things correctly. He can certainly hold down the no.3 spot. Expect a lot more from this lad for a while yet
The Windies catching was just an absolute comedy show. The amount of sodas being dropped in a short space of time was quite incredible. England can count themselves very lucky to get 280, 80 more than what they should've gotten
Bopara had a couple of humorous comments about the ex-skipper's golden duck....need to check the Brit papers
Cooldude
7 May 2009, 20:20
Bopara had a couple of humorous comments about the ex-skipper's golden duck....need to check the Brit papers
What did he say? I'm interested
Grimwood
7 May 2009, 21:18
Dropped catches, lazy shots and a little bit of wayward bowling. You can't afford too much sloppy cricket on a flat pitch.
I love watching Bopara bat, but I'm a little worried about his new footwork. We'll just have to wait and see how it stacks up against the Australians.
What did he say? I'm interested
"... I'm sure he (Pietersen) has learned from it. You must lower your backlift and not go so hard at the ball."
Grimwood
7 May 2009, 23:06
Graeme Swann's opened the bowling.. and at the other end the speed gun reckons that Stuart Broad is bowling at 93mph.
¿Que?
DoubleO7
7 May 2009, 23:18
Graeme Swann's opened the bowling.. and at the other end the speed gun reckons that Stuart Broad is bowling at 93mph.
¿Que?
Apparently Broad is averaging a speed rating of 90.3 mph (145 km/h). I find that both inaccurate and hard to believe.
The decision to open the bowling with Swann was one for the worse. Baffles the mind that tactic. He is gone now and here is Jimmy Anderson.
Chris Gayle is in top form with 22 runs from 22 ball including five fours.
Apparently Broad is averaging a speed rating of 90.3 mph (145 km/h). I find that both inaccurate and hard to believe.
The decision to open the bowling with Swann was one for the worse. Baffles the mind that tactic. He is gone now and here is Jimmy Anderson.
Chris Gayle is in top form with 22 runs from 22 ball including five fours.
Love this bloke. I doubt this guy would ever get stressed about anything. Love his approach to cricket. :thumbsu:
Special Agent Utah
7 May 2009, 23:26
Poor decision by Strauss.
Perfect conditions for Englands best bowler but instead lets the openers off the hook by opening up with Swann.
Grimwood
8 May 2009, 00:40
99/4 at tea.
I have no idea what to make of that session.
Broad and Anderson bowled quickly, although clearly not quite as quickly as the gun suggested, yet they took a long time to find their accuracy. As with the Windies bowlers, one could put it down to a bit rustiness, but both of England's opening pair have often shown a tendancy to get over-excited and forget their basics with their first spells of a match. Maddening.
Opening with Swann was frankly bizzare, yet he took two wickets when he returned just before tea.
Poor decision by Strauss.
Perfect conditions for Englands best bowler but instead lets the openers off the hook by opening up with Swann.
You saay that but the experiment only lasted two overs which went for 7 runs.Broad and Anderson were going at 6-7
Cooldude
8 May 2009, 01:00
"... I'm sure he (Pietersen) has learned from it. You must lower your backlift and not go so hard at the ball."
LOL :D
Someone's cheeky. KP's not gonna like that
Worldheroxx
8 May 2009, 01:31
The headline on cricinfo - "Onions peels through West Indies"
Obvious but I like it
XFactor1979
8 May 2009, 01:44
the windies are stuck in twenty20 mode it seems
run rate of 4.79 runs an over, thats splendid!
too bad theyve only lasted 29 overs so far, and theyve lost 9 men in the process!
Onions reduces WI to tears
I think this performance means that England are clear favourites to thrash Aus in the upcoming series .They probably wont need to even play at their best against a fading Aus ;)
WI were shocking by the way
Really poor work from the Windies.
DoubleO7
8 May 2009, 17:19
It was a day dominated by England. They started the day well with Swann scoring an unbeaten 63 and coming back to take 3 wickets.
West Indies started off well, but crumbled for 152 to follow-on. Debutant Onions did the damage picking up 5 for 38 using the conditions to good effect. West Indies following on are 39 for 2 with Gayle and Sarwan back in the pavillion.
Tonight should make for an exciting day of play.
Q. How was Matthew Prior's wicket keeping? I missed the third session and there is nothing on cricinfo suggesting how he went with the gloves.
West Indies cricket wont go anywhere fast soon if they continue to bat without any ticker.
It was a day dominated by England. They started the day well with Swann scoring an unbeaten 63 and coming back to take 3 wickets.
West Indies started off well, but crumbled for 152 to follow-on. Debutant Onions did the damage picking up 5 for 38 using the conditions to good effect. West Indies following on are 39 for 2 with Gayle and Sarwan back in the pavillion.
Tonight should make for an exciting day of play.
Q. How was Matthew Prior's wicket keeping? I missed the third session and there is nothing on cricinfo suggesting how he went with the gloves.
Didnt drop any catches but still fumbles occasionally when the batter leaves
DoubleO7
9 May 2009, 00:00
Ian Bishop is expressing concern at the speed-gun's readings in this Test, and we agree entirely. Broad's quickest ball is apparently 93.6mph. Bresnan, who is surely no more than a chugger, has today been regularly clocked at 89mph. It seems just a little bit too generous to me.
- cricinfo.com (http://content.cricinfo.com/engvwi2009/engine/current/match/380712.html)
Seems the official match commentators are concerned about the erroneous speed gun ratings as well.
DoubleO7
9 May 2009, 00:57
WI finally showing some spirit after that desolate first innings performance. Nash and Ramdin both reach their half century milestones with boundaries. :thumbsu:
They trail the follow on mark by three runs with five wickets in hand.
West Indies 152 & 222/5 (58.3 ov)
Edit: Make that one run with four wickets in hand. Broad gets one to nip back in sharply from outside off, Ramdin on the back foot, looks to play it to the off side and misses it, as the ball crashes into the stumps. Broad provides the breakthrough for England at last.
Great Effort by Nash. As a windies fan i just don't understand the mentality of the lower order sometimes, what the hell was benn doing.
I can't believe Graeme Swann, I don't think he's that good. Taken some big wickets but he doesn't seem to do much in terms of drift or spin. Bit worried with the ashes coming up and the Aussies struggling to play average spin. Swann is the kind of bowler Haydos and Gilly would dispatch.
DoubleO7
9 May 2009, 12:07
Astounding win for England, as they thrash West Indies comfortably by 10 wickets.
West Indies were outplayed in all the departments. Only Nash and Ramdin showed some resistance, but it was not enough for them to put pressure on England.
It was a disciplined performance (somewhat) by England, who now look to reclaim the Wisden Trophy they lost in West Indies earlier this year.
Graeme Swann was named Man of the Match for his all round performance in the test. 63* and 6/55 (overall).
The second test starts on May 14th at Chester-le-Street and West Indies must regroup and come up with an improved performance.
The good news for the Windies is that Gayle, Sarwan and Chanderpaul can only get better. For years the big name players were the only ones scoring runs, but that wasn't the case in this match.
Smith got starts in both innings (46, 41), Simmons got a start in the second innings (21), Nash has really cemented a spot in the middle order and is the battler that they need. While Ramdin is becomming more consistent, and scored 61 in the second innings.
It was really the second tier players who at least showed something in this match. You wouldn't imagine Gayle, Sarwan and especially Chanderpaul will fail again, so as long as the other guys continue to show something, they should be a lot better in the next test.
The other positive they can take from the match, is their bowling. With the exception of some poor tactics when bowling to Swann, they were actually quite good. The Windies won the first day, and if they had of just held on to their catches, they probably could have dismissed England for 150 runs less.
LOL at the english commentators comparing Onions to Glen McGrath :D
LOL at the english commentators comparing Onions to Glen McGrath :D
He did look somewhat impressive, but obviously one test doesn't make a career, he did destroy a stump cam though haha.
Grimwood
9 May 2009, 20:34
England have needed a stump to stump bowler ever since Simon Jones injured himself to India. Onions is the only English bowler of any real pace who has... (wait for it crownie) a McGrath style 'step in' and his action is strong despite his funny little 'karate chop' hand movements as he winds up.
I've no idea how he'll go in the future, but his style complements that of Broad and Anderson.
DoubleO7
9 May 2009, 20:40
England have needed a stump to stump bowler ever since Simon Jones injured himself to India. Onions is the only English bowler of any real pace who has... (wait for it crownie) a McGrath style 'step in' and his action is strong despite his funny little 'karate chop' hand movements as he winds up.
I've no idea how he'll go in the future, but his style complements that of Broad and Anderson.
Onions bowling action is a lot like Munaf Patel's to be honest...
Grimwood
9 May 2009, 23:08
Onions bowling action is a lot like Munaf Patel's to be honest...
Which vintage of Munaf? The man changes his action at least once a year!
He looks a little like Munaf when India were over here a couple of years ago.
Great win, as clinical as the way England performed in the pre 2005 Ashes Series..... consistency the key and getting a healthy Freddie back.
DoubleO7
10 May 2009, 19:19
England have recalled Ian Bell and Ryan Sidebottom to their squad for the second Test against West Indies at Chester-le-Street. Monty Panesar is the only change from the first Test squad at a venue not know to assist spin.
England squad: Andrew Strauss (capt), Alastair Cook, Ravi Bopara, Kevin Pietersen, Paul Collingwood, Ian Bell, Matt Prior (wk), Stuart Broad, Tim Bresnan, Graeme Swann, James Anderson, Graham Onions, RyanSidebottom.
- Bell and Sidebottom in second Test squad (http://content.cricinfo.com/engvwi2009/content/current/story/403782.html)
Some pretty obvious selections for mine. If Sidebottom is fit then he is a certain starter for England.They need a bowler of his calibre to restrict the run rate whilst picking up a wicket or two.
Ian Bell for Paul Collingwood? I think it's a plausible idea. Collingwood was rather poor with the bat against the WI and Bell has some batting form behind him (172 and 108 for Warwickshire). Adding to that Bell is the superior number 5 batsmen.
England have recalled Ian Bell and Ryan Sidebottom to their squad for the second Test against West Indies at Chester-le-Street. Monty Panesar is the only change from the first Test squad at a venue not know to assist spin.
England squad: Andrew Strauss (capt), Alastair Cook, Ravi Bopara, Kevin Pietersen, Paul Collingwood, Ian Bell, Matt Prior (wk), Stuart Broad, Tim Bresnan, Graeme Swann, James Anderson, Graham Onions, RyanSidebottom.
- Bell and Sidebottom in second Test squad (http://content.cricinfo.com/engvwi2009/content/current/story/403782.html)
Some pretty obvious selections for mine. If Sidebottom is fit then he is a certain starter for England.They need a bowler of his calibre to restrict the run rate whilst picking up a wicket or two.
Ian Bell for Paul Collingwood? I think it's a plausible idea. Collingwood was rather poor with the bat against the WI and Bell has some batting form behind him (172 and 108 for Warwickshire). Adding to that Bell is the superior number 5 batsmen.
Sidebottom has been very poor for Notts
He did look somewhat impressive, but obviously one test doesn't make a career, he did destroy a stump cam though haha.
Knocking over the Windies on an English May green top is well and good, but the Aussies on July & August batting tracks a totally different proposition.