Team vs Hawthorn

[AndyLesPaul]

ESSENDON v HAWTHORN
Essendon
B: Cale Hooker, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Adam McPhee, David Myers
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Angus Monfries
HF: Jason Winderlich, Matthew Lloyd, Sam Lonergan
F: Bachar Houli, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
I/C: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking, David Zaharakis, Tom Bellchambers
Emg: Jay Nash, Tom Williams, Tyson Slattery

In: Neagle, Bellchambers, Houli
Out: Dustin Fletcher (leg), Scott Lucas, Leroy Jetta (knee)

Hawthorn
B: Michael Osborne, Thomas Murphy, Grant Birchall
HB: Stuart Dew, Luke Hodge, Beau Dowler
C: Travis Tuck, Sam Mitchell, Jordan Lewis
HF: Garry Moss, Lance Franklin, Cyril Rioli
F: Campbell Brown, Jarryd Roughead, Mark Williams
Foll: Simon Taylor, Brad Sewell, Chance Bateman
I/C: Robert Campbell, Ben McGlynn, Cameron Stokes, Brendan Whitecross
Emg: Josh Kennedy, Jarryd Morton, Brent Renouf

In: Birchall, McGlynn, Stokes
Out: Brent Guerra (back), Jarryd Morton, Brent Renouf

Leroy Jetta = Knee injury?
Does anyone know how bad it is?

[stay true]

I havn't heard/read anything about Jetta so I'm assuming it's nothign serious.

[Wahooti Fandango]

I mentioned a few weeks back that I thought Jetta was struggling to run at his best.

[Boucks09]

It appears Hawthorn don't rate Neagle. They have dropped Renouf which will allow Campbell to play in the ruck and Morton. Murphy will probably play on Lloyd when deep but not sure who they will play on Neagle? Perhaps Dowler?

Also wrapped with the pick up of Tom Williams from the Dogs. He could play anywhere!

[LeeARM]

From what I've heard Neagle hasn't really earned his spot back into the team. I hope he finds some form this game.

[R_n_B]

ESSENDON v HAWTHORN
Essendon

Emg: Jay Nash, Tom Williams, Tyson Slattery



Also wrapped with the pick up of Tom Williams from the Dogs. He could play anywhere!

Mwahaha! Hope that's sarcasm!
Unfortunetly it is John Williams not Tom.
You think if it was Tom he would be playing not an EMG :p

[ghostdog]

It appears Hawthorn don't rate Neagle. They have dropped Renouf which will allow Campbell to play in the ruck and Morton. Murphy will probably play on Lloyd when deep but not sure who they will play on Neagle? Perhaps Dowler?

Also wrapped with the pick up of Tom Williams from the Dogs. He could play anywhere!

Yeah I'm keen to see more of Williams as well. Wouldn't mind reading an appraisal of his abilities if anyone knows more about him. From what I have seen (which is sfa) he's very mobile and has a bit of spring.

This is from RIG's player thread:
Williams, taken with Essendon’s first selection (pick five), is a 188cm, 19-year-old, recruited from Morningside who is renowned for his impressive athleticism.

“John is very good above the head, he kicks the ball a long way and is very good with the timings of the game,” Dodoro said.

“He is someone that really impressed us and a few clubs rated him pretty highly in the National Draft.

“A few clubs went off him a bit because of a shoulder complaint he was having but we feel he is a long-term prospect and therefore we will give him the time to develop.”

I wrote somewhere else that I suspect the Hawks might underrate us for a quarter or so. We look like we're in the wars on the injury front.

[markr]

It appears Hawthorn don't rate Neagle. They have dropped Renouf which will allow Campbell to play in the ruck and Morton. Murphy will probably play on Lloyd when deep but not sure who they will play on Neagle? Perhaps Dowler?
I'm a little surprised we've dropped Renouf. You would think that Lloyd would be too big and strong for Murphy, and even though Renouf hasn't been great I'd play Campbell back again. Unless they're thinking that with your restricted rucks we can play Campbell back and let Dowler or Roughead give Taylor a chop out in the ruck.

[Ari]

This game will be career defining for Neagle.

5 goals. 2 behinds.

[AndyLesPaul]

Mwahaha! Hope that's sarcasm!
Unfortunetly it is John Williams not Tom.
You think if it was Tom he would be playing not an EMG :p
rofl, afl.com.au for you lol

[AndyLesPaul]

This game will be career defining for Neagle.

5 goals. 2 behinds.
ONLY 5 GOALS?
in how many games?

EDIT:
lol, nvm, i fail.


5 goals against Hawthorn:thumbsu:

[Boucks09]

Mwahaha! Hope that's sarcasm!
Unfortunetly it is John Williams not Tom.
You think if it was Tom he would be playing not an EMG :p

Haha yeah I was being sarcastic. Unfortunately our boy John doesn't come with half the wraps (or promise) as his Doggies surnamesake!




Yeah I'm keen to see more of Williams as well. Wouldn't mind reading an appraisal of his abilities if anyone knows more about him. From what I have seen (which is sfa) he's very mobile and has a bit of spring.

I've only seem him play in Round 22 last year and the one NAB game this season. He seems to be a forward who has a great leap and is quite quick on the lead. He isn't all that tall or strong and would be more of a Mark Williams type forward rather than a key power forward. Lets hope he can kick some goals for Bendigo (with Prismall feeding him some nice ball) and put some pressure on to get a game.



I'm a little surprised we've dropped Renouf. You would think that Lloyd would be too big and strong for Murphy, and even though Renouf hasn't been great I'd play Campbell back again. Unless they're thinking that with your restricted rucks we can play Campbell back and let Dowler or Roughead give Taylor a chop out in the ruck.

I've be surprised if you chose to go with Dowler or Roughead to play in the ruck. We have brought in a ruckman in Bellchambers who is simply just a ruckman and nothing else. I'd be more than happy for you to play Roughead in the ruck though!

The other option is to move Campbell Brown down back as he has been out of form playing forward so far this season. Nonetheless I would say at this stage that our KP backs are looking better than yours this week!

[ghostdog]

Haha yeah I was being sarcastic. Unfortunately our boy John doesn't come with half the wraps (or promise) as his Doggies surnamesake!


:o Did I say I'd seen sfa??

[Boucks09]

:o Did I say I'd seen sfa??

It's all good champ!:thumbsu:

[Bomber Pamboo]

Interesting question.. Who would win between Essendon's selected lineup and their Injured/Bendigo side. Have a look. Think it would be close but the selected lineup for this week may just get the nod in a tight one.

Essendon
B: Cale Hooker, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Adam McPhee, David Myers
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Angus Monfries
HF: Jason Winderlich, Matthew Lloyd, Sam Lonergan
F: Bachar Houli, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
I/C: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking, David Zaharakis, Tom Bellchambers


Essendon Injured/Bendigo
B: Darcey Daniher, Michael Hurley, Michael Quinn
HB: Jay Nash, Dustin Fletcher, Jarrod Atkinson
C: Leroy Jetta, Brent Prismall, Kyle Reimers
HF: Tyson Slattery, Scott Gumbleton, Hayden Skipworth
F: Jason Laycock, Scott Lucas, John Williams
Foll: David Hille, Andrew Welsh, Mark Mcveigh
I/C: Michael Still, Kade Klemke, Rhys Magin, Bryce Carrol

[Boucks09]

Interesting question.. Who would win between Essendon's selected lineup and their Injured/Bendigo side. Have a look. Think it would be close but the selected lineup for this week may just get the nod in a tight one.

Essendon
B: Cale Hooker, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Adam McPhee, David Myers
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Angus Monfries
HF: Jason Winderlich, Matthew Lloyd, Sam Lonergan
F: Bachar Houli, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
I/C: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking, David Zaharakis, Tom Bellchambers


Essendon Injured/Bendigo
B: Darcey Daniher, Michael Hurley, Michael Quinn
HB: Jay Nash, Dustin Fletcher, Jarrod Atkinson
C: Leroy Jetta, Brent Prismall, Kyle Reimers
HF: Tyson Slattery, Scott Gumbleton, Hayden Skipworth
F: Jason Laycock, Scott Lucas, John Williams
Foll: David Hille, Andrew Welsh, Mark Mcveigh
I/C: Michael Still, Kade Klemke, Rhys Magin, Bryce Carrol

The full back line is our future.
The centre line is our future (if Leroy does a Leon)
The Follower's...that's just depressing.

I'd back the seniors but only due to the inexperienced bench for the Injured/Bendigo!

[stay true]

This game will be career defining for Neagle.

5 goals. 2 behinds.
Please please please make this happen Jay.:D

[AndyLesPaul]

Interesting question.. Who would win between Essendon's selected lineup and their Injured/Bendigo side. Have a look. Think it would be close but the selected lineup for this week may just get the nod in a tight one.

Essendon
B: Cale Hooker, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Adam McPhee, David Myers
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Angus Monfries
HF: Jason Winderlich, Matthew Lloyd, Sam Lonergan
F: Bachar Houli, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
I/C: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking, David Zaharakis, Tom Bellchambers


Essendon Injured/Bendigo
B: Darcey Daniher, Michael Hurley, Michael Quinn
HB: Jay Nash, Dustin Fletcher, Jarrod Atkinson
C: Leroy Jetta, Brent Prismall, Kyle Reimers
HF: Tyson Slattery, Scott Gumbleton, Hayden Skipworth
F: Jason Laycock, Scott Lucas, John Williams
Foll: David Hille, Andrew Welsh, Mark Mcveigh
I/C: Michael Still, Kade Klemke, Rhys Magin, Bryce Carrol
tbh, i'd go Injured. easy

[Bomber Pamboo]

tbh, i'd go Injured. easy


Think the essendon side might be too quick for the injured/bendigo side.

[AndyLesPaul]

Think the essendon side might be too quick for the injured/bendigo side.
hmm, their defence is much better though

[bombersno1]

Thank goodness a much better side, although why is Monfries listed in the centre and Houli in the forward line when it is obvious as anything that it will be the other way around!

[Longy413]

Thank goodness a much better side, although why is Monfries listed in the centre and Houli in the forward line when it is obvious as anything that it will be the other way around!

Why is it that obvious?

Houli has been included to replace Jetta and Monfries will probably tag Hodge again who rotates between half-back and wing.

[BrunoV]

Well the stage is set for Neagle. He will not be playing on a recognised stopper.

Jay, please kick 5 or 6 and prove that you will be the next 12 year full forward so I can stop stressing :(

I would trade getting belted for a few srong marks on the lead and in a pack and some bombs from outside 50m.

About time the Hawks threw Dowler back by the way. How hard can it be for a CHF to learn to be a CHB. He is tall and athletic and they need a genuine key back to help Croad. I am not convinced that Gilham has been properly tested.

[OzBomber]

Bloody hell, that has got to be the most inexperienced team I've seen for us ever. BT said on League Teams on Fox tonight that this week's side is the shortest team ever.

[kelvin_sheedy]

The centre line looks very ugly. Reminds me of the days we had Danny Morgan, Ben Doolan, Mark Fraser and a few others.

If Monfries tags Hodge it will be like taking a water pistol to a bush fire.

Hawthorn are masters of the gameplan that has destroyed us this year. North and Brisbane are good examples of it.

I'm hoping for a few miracles - Jay to kick 4, Lloydy 4, Franklin 1.8, Hooker BOG on Roughead.

[bipolarbeaR]

Hooker BOG on Roughead.
On the chest?

[Strike Swiftly]

Interesting question.. Who would win between Essendon's selected lineup and their Injured/Bendigo side. Have a look. Think it would be close but the selected lineup for this week may just get the nod in a tight one.

Essendon
B: Cale Hooker, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Adam McPhee, David Myers
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Angus Monfries
HF: Jason Winderlich, Matthew Lloyd, Sam Lonergan
F: Bachar Houli, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
I/C: Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking, David Zaharakis, Tom Bellchambers


Essendon Injured/Bendigo
B: Darcey Daniher, Michael Hurley, Michael Quinn
HB: Jay Nash, Dustin Fletcher, Jarrod Atkinson
C: Leroy Jetta, Brent Prismall, Kyle Reimers
HF: Tyson Slattery, Scott Gumbleton, Hayden Skipworth
F: Jason Laycock, Scott Lucas, John Williams
Foll: David Hille, Andrew Welsh, Mark Mcveigh
I/C: Michael Still, Kade Klemke, Rhys Magin, Bryce Carrol

I'd go the injured side TBH. Spine and centre are way too strong.

[rainman06]

On the chest?

Haha :thumbsu:

On a serious note, i think it is clear we have to go Pears - Roughead and Mcphee - Franklin.

I think playing Ryder in the backline would be essentially conceding the game. We have just got to go for it and hope our midfield plays above themselves and the forwards kick straight.

Why Hooker is in the side other than to ruck with Bellchambers (and obviously ryder plays back) has got me stumped. Only thing i can think of is to cover Campbell/Taylor if they push forward. Not sure if that will even happen though.

[Duckworth]

On the chest?

LOL Poo jokes... timeless :D

[cawshezy]

Obivious a hard month ahead for the bombers if we lost by less than 5 goals i'll be satisfied. Or even a goal or two. Injury list is getting shorter so should be and interesting second half of the season.

[bombersno1]

Why is it that obvious?

Houli has been included to replace Jetta and Monfries will probably tag Hodge again who rotates between half-back and wing.

Monfries is a HF/midfielder, not a midfielder/HBF, that is what Houli is..as for tagging Hodge, why I am hoping that does not happen...

[Ari]

I'm hoping for a few miracles - Jay to kick 4, Lloydy 4, Franklin 1.8, Hooker BOG on Roughead.

I laughed.... :o

Demonstrates just how much we need to go right.

That said, based on the fact that this year we win the hard ones and lose the easy ones put us down for a one goal win. :)

Carlton was the best and biggest game evaaaaaaa. Which was overtaken by Collingwood. Which...........

[BrunoV]

Monfries is a HF/midfielder, not a midfielder/HBF, that is what Houli is..as for tagging Hodge, why I am hoping that does not happen...


Wasn't Monfries tagging Half Backs last year when he hit that rich vein of form?

Monfries is a balanced player, usually kicks it well, moves well and in general just looks good. The only atriubte that works against him is he is a little on the small side.

He has been getting lost playing in our forward line since he started and strikes me as a player that lacks urgency. I like the idea of setting him the task of tagging a good player each week because the reality is that he can damage a backman who doesn't respect someone of his talent. It also means that he is not being lost to the team beacuse he will always be playing a role.

[Longy413]

If Monfries tags Hodge it will be like taking a water pistol to a bush fire.

He's done it before and done it well, he's played the role on a number of gun players and beaten them.

On a serious note, i think it is clear we have to go Pears - Roughead and Mcphee - Franklin.

Why Hooker is in the side other than to ruck with Bellchambers (and obviously ryder plays back) has got me stumped.

To play on Franklin. He has agility, reach, speed and a good tank. He's the obvious match up for Buddy.

Pears on Roughead.

Monfries is a HF/midfielder, not a midfielder/HBF

Isn't the wing (where he was picked) in the midfield?
What has that got to do with half-back?

that is what Houli is..

Houli was drafted as a goal kicking mid.
He's played a handful of games across half-back but has been unable to get cement a spot. He's place in the side, his position, isn't defined yet.

Wasn't Monfries tagging Half Backs last year when he hit that rich vein of form?


Bingo.

[AndyLesPaul]

He's done it before and done it well, he's played the role on a number of gun players and beaten them.



To play on Franklin. He has agility, reach, speed and a good tank. He's the obvious match up for Buddy.

Pears on Roughead.



Isn't the wing (where he was picked) in the midfield?
What has that got to do with half-back?



Houli was drafted as a goal kicking mid.
He's played a handful of games across half-back but has been unable to get cement a spot. He's place in the side, his position, isn't defined yet.



Bingo.
Excellent Longy.
:thumbsu:

[AndyLesPaul]

The centre line looks very ugly. Reminds me of the days we had Danny Morgan, Ben Doolan, Mark Fraser and a few others.

If Monfries tags Hodge it will be like taking a water pistol to a bush fire.

Hawthorn are masters of the gameplan that has destroyed us this year. North and Brisbane are good examples of it.

I'm hoping for a few miracles - Jay to kick 4, Lloydy 4, Franklin 1.8, Hooker BOG on Roughead.
Now, with the good things.
You guessed thier first quarter score correctly. XD

Now with the bad things.

I'm guessing that water pistol shoots massive water rpgs?
and our centreline is doing WONDERS

[Longy413]

Monfries was the catalyst for our win. His role on Hodge completely changed Hawthorn's structure. The minute Hodge was moved from half-back we had the game won.

[Wahooti Fandango]

Longy proves once again why he (along with ant) are the oracles of the Bombers' board. :thumbsu:

[kelvin_sheedy]

If Monfries tags Hodge it will be like taking a water pistol to a bush fire.


:o

well done gus.

[AndyLesPaul]

:o

well done gus.
That pistol worked wonders it did ;)