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mongrelpunt
28 Jan 2003, 12:05
Just thought I let people know of the Fantasy Cricket Comp now running through cricinfo. Its not up on baggygreen yet, but it shouldn't be too far away.

The link is:

2003 WC Fantasy Cricket (http://fantasy.cricinfo.com/link_to_database/INTERACTIVE/COMPETITIONS/WORLD_CUPS/WBC/index.html)

Its pretty good this time - no limits on players from each country, but only 1 trump player. Plus, you can change your team at any time, but you will lose points if you change it during the World Cup itself.

Plus theirs no "custom leagues", so its all in the one comp.

Kenny_01
28 Jan 2003, 12:40
I've just made my team. The comp seems pretty good, pity there isn't groups though so we could see how others are going in comparison to ourselves.

Zombie
28 Jan 2003, 20:52
Here's my team:

M.Hayden
H.Gibbs
S.Tendulkar
A.Flower
Y.Youhana

S.Jayasuria (trump)
J.Kallis
C.Gayle
S.Pollock

A.Gilchrist

G.McGrath
M.Muralitharan
S.Akthar
B.Lee

Bring on the World Cup!

Zombie
28 Jan 2003, 20:56
The thing I find a bit strange is the fact that S.Warne is considered an all-rounder, as is Sehwag and Lehmann yet B.Hogg is considered a pure bowler.

Kenny_01
29 Jan 2003, 02:14
My team:

Hayden
Ponting
Tendulkar
Knight
Astle

Jaysuria
Kallis (trump)
Pollock
Ganguly

McGrath
Muralitharan
B. Lee
Ntini

mongrelpunt
29 Jan 2003, 10:20
My team (not to say I won't change it between now and feb 8):

1. Batsman ML Hayden (AUS)
2. Batsman NV Knight (ENG)
3. Batsman Yousuf Youhana (PAK)
4. Batsman HH Gibbs (RSA)
5. Batsman MS Atapattu (SL)
6. All-rounder V Sehwag (IND)
7. All-rounder CL Cairns (NZ)
8. All-rounder JH Kallis (RSA)
9. All-rounder ST Jayasuriya (SL)
10. Wicket-keeper AC Gilchrist (AUS) - Trump
11. Bowler AR Caddick (ENG)
12. Bowler B Lee (AUS)
13. Bowler CRD Fernando (SL)
14. Bowler J Srinath (IND)

Zombie
29 Jan 2003, 12:22
Originally posted by mongrelpunt
My team (not to say I won't change it between now and feb 8):

1. Batsman ML Hayden (AUS)
2. Batsman NV Knight (ENG)
3. Batsman Yousuf Youhana (PAK)
4. Batsman HH Gibbs (RSA)
5. Batsman MS Atapattu (SL)
6. All-rounder V Sehwag (IND)
7. All-rounder CL Cairns (NZ)
8. All-rounder JH Kallis (RSA)
9. All-rounder ST Jayasuriya (SL)
10. Wicket-keeper AC Gilchrist (AUS) - Trump
11. Bowler AR Caddick (ENG)
12. Bowler B Lee (AUS)
13. Bowler CRD Fernando (SL)
14. Bowler J Srinath (IND)

Can't understand that Bowling line-up.

Jars458
29 Jan 2003, 12:31
My team

Hayden
Knight
Ul-Haq
A flower
R Ponting


Cairns
Kallis - trump
Jayasuria
Pollock

Gilchrist

Srinath
Nitini
Lee
Bond

mongrelpunt
29 Jan 2003, 12:35
Originally posted by Zombie
Can't understand that Bowling line-up.

Lee and Fernando were the two top wicket takers in the VB series, and Srinath was the leading wicket taker against New Zealand. Pollock is classed an all rounder, and McGrath and Akhtar have injuries. Caddick was a consistent choice.

But I'm sure to change that soon.

Zombie
29 Jan 2003, 13:11
Originally posted by mongrelpunt
Lee and Fernando were the two top wicket takers in the VB series, and Srinath was the leading wicket taker against New Zealand. Pollock is classed an all rounder, and McGrath and Akhtar have injuries. Caddick was a consistent choice.

But I'm sure to change that soon.

I just found it odd that you get to pick 4 bowlers and you picked 1 top 5 bowler who only just made it into the top 5 recently and 1 top 10 bowler who until recently wasn't among the top 15 bowlers aswell as two other bowlers who are well outside the top 10.

ScouseCat
29 Jan 2003, 15:55
Team Name: Seinfeld Stars

Matthew Hayden - Australia
Ricky Ponting - Australia
Nathan Astle - New Zealand
Sachin Tendulkar - India
Michael Vaughan - England

Jacques Kallis - South Africa (TRUMP)
Sanath Jayasuriya - Sri Lanka
Virender Sehwag - India
Chris Gayle - West Indies

Rahul Dravid - India

Brett Lee - Australia
Makhaya Ntini - South Africa
Chaminda Vass - Sri Lanka
Shane Bond - New Zealand

Richmondfan#1
29 Jan 2003, 17:31
Cheers for that link mongrel. I'll get choosing my team now.

Richmondfan#1
29 Jan 2003, 17:43
Hayden
Tendulkar
Vaughan
Youhana
Ponting

Lehmann
Kallis
Jayasuriya
Ganguly

Gilchrist

McGrath
Akhatar
Muralitharan
Bond

... subject to change

Zombie
29 Jan 2003, 18:19
Why do people keep picking Vaughan?

Minkus_Swan
29 Jan 2003, 18:27
My Team -

H. Gibbs
M. Vaughan
R. Ponting
J. Rhodes
S. Tendulkar
J. Kallis
V. Sehwag
S. Jayasuria
S. Pollock
A. Gilchrist
B. Lee
S. Akhtar
S. Bond
M. Muralitharan

Zombie
29 Jan 2003, 18:46
Another Vaughan pick, you can't tell England just toured Australia can you?

ScouseCat
29 Jan 2003, 20:50
Originally posted by Zombie
Why do people keep picking Vaughan?

Why didn't you pick Michael Vaughan... a man who's made over 1000 runs in the last calender year in tests, can also bowl a bit of off-spin and will get a bat in all of England's innings???

Zombie
29 Jan 2003, 21:03
Originally posted by ScouseCat
Why didn't you pick Michael Vaughan... a man who's made over 1000 runs in the last calender year in tests, can also bowl a bit of off-spin and will get a bat in all of England's innings???

I don't care if he made 1000 runs in a calendar year in test cricket, he might as well have won Wimbeldon, it would be of as much importance.

In One Day cricket he has a huge average of 22 and he isn't exactly smacking them around the park with a strike rate of 73.

He isn't even the best batsmen in the poor batting line-up of England let alone one of the best One Day batsmen in the world.

Richmondfan#1
29 Jan 2003, 21:14
I did say my team was subject to change. It was thrown together really, although I still might stick by my choice.

ScouseCat
29 Jan 2003, 21:15
Originally posted by Zombie
I don't care if he made 1000 runs in a calendar year in test cricket, he might as well have won Wimbeldon, it would be of as much importance.

In One Day cricket he has a huge average of 22 and he isn't exactly smacking them around the park with a strike rate of 73.

He isn't even the best batsmen in the poor batting line-up of England let alone one of the best One Day batsmen in the world.

Remember, Jacques Kallis had a very poor average for the early part of his career and look how good a player he is now!!

You have to start somewhere and Michael Vaughan is technically the most correct of England's batsmen.... only a matter of time before he succeeds at this level.

Zombie
29 Jan 2003, 21:29
Originally posted by ScouseCat
Remember, Jacques Kallis had a very poor average for the early part of his career and look how good a player he is now!!

You have to start somewhere and Michael Vaughan is technically the most correct of England's batsmen.... only a matter of time before he succeeds at this level.

No he didn't, Kallis averaged 43 from his first 20 innings, double the average Vaughan has at the same point.

Kallis is 27, Vaughan is 28, I'd hardly say it was the early part of Vaughan's career.

ScouseCat
29 Jan 2003, 21:37
Originally posted by Zombie
No he didn't, Kallis averaged 43 from his first 20 innings, double the average Vaughan has at the same point.

Kallis is 27, Vaughan is 28, I'd hardly say it was the early part of Vaughan's career.

I was thinking more of Kallis and his test record.

Kallis has had more experience then Vaughan... in that regard Vaughan's career is still in it's early days whereas Kallis is one of the best all-rounders in the game at the moment.

Zombie
29 Jan 2003, 22:21
Originally posted by ScouseCat
I was thinking more of Kallis and his test record.

Kallis has had more experience then Vaughan... in that regard Vaughan's career is still in it's early days whereas Kallis is one of the best all-rounders in the game at the moment.

Test cricket is a different kettle of fish to One Day cricket.

Vaughan has played more first class matches than Kallis.

RoosLuver
30 Jan 2003, 14:38
Could somebody answer this for me, what is the country code for Australia (its for the telephone number)

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 14:50
Originally posted by RoosLuver
Could somebody answer this for me, what is the country code for Australia (its for the telephone number)

I'm pretty sure it is 61.

RoosLuver
30 Jan 2003, 14:55
Thanks Zombie!

RoosLuver
30 Jan 2003, 15:11
My Team

M.Hayden
S.Tendulkar
R.Ponting
N.Knight
A.Flower

S.Pollock
S.Jayasuriya
J.Kallis
S.Ganguly

A.Gilchrist - trump

B.Lee
S.Akhtar
M.Muralitharan
G.McGrath

Unwritten_Law
30 Jan 2003, 16:14
My Team:

1. Ponting (Aus)
2. Hayden (Aus)
3. Gibbs (SA)
4. Astle (NZ)
5. Tendulkar (Ind)

6. Pollock (trump) (SA)
7. Kallis (SA)
8. Ganguly (Ind)
9. Jayasuriya (SL)

10. Gilchrist (Aus)

11. Lee (Aus)
12. Muralitharan (SL)
13. Akhtar (Pak)
14. Bond (NZ)

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 16:18
I rate those last 2 teams.

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 16:40
why not dizzy instead of shane bond

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 16:47
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
why not dizzy instead of shane bond

1. Shane Bond is a better bowler than Gillespie
2. Bond is NZ's #1 bowler and will get first pickings at opposition wickets. Gillespie is Australia's #4 bowler.

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 16:52
Originally posted by Zombie
1. Shane Bond is a better bowler than Gillespie
2. Bond is NZ's #1 bowler and will get first pickings at opposition wickets. Gillespie is Australia's #4 bowler.

your kidding right - you must be kidding! how can you not be kidding

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 16:59
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
your kidding right - you must be kidding! how can you not be kidding

Why would I be kidding?

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 17:06
Originally posted by Zombie
1. Shane Bond is a better bowler than Gillespie

that in itself is dumb

Originally posted by Zombie
2. Bond is NZ's #1 bowler and will get first pickings at opposition wickets. Gillespie is Australia's #4 bowler.

disagree - 1 beacse nz doesnt have the strile power of oz & 2. yes, glen & shane first but he's ahead of bret lee easally

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 17:16
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
that in itself is dumb



disagree - 1 beacse nz doesnt have the strile power of oz & 2. yes, glen & shane first but he's ahead of bret lee easally

Bond has an average of 20.53, Gillespie has an average of 25.80. Bond has a strike rate of 27.2, Gillespie has a strike rate of 35.3.

What a flawed arguement, my whole point was the strike power of Australia will prevent Gillespie from being able to take as many wickets as Bond will have the opportunity to.

Lee is a better One Day bowler than Gillespie with an average of 22.48 and a strike rate of 28.6

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 17:18
Originally posted by Zombie
Bond has an average of 20.53, Gillespie has an average of 25.80. Bond has a strike rate of 27.2, Gillespie has a strike rate of 35.3.

What a flawed arguement, my whole point was the strike power of Australia will prevent Gillespie from being able to take as many wickets as Bond will have the opportunity to.

Lee is a better One Day bowler than Gillespie with an average of 22.48 and a strike rate of 28.6

stats are misleading as both lee and bond have not had the injuries that jason has has and in some way, jase is learing the 1 day game

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 17:25
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
stats are misleading as both lee and bond have not had the injuries that jason has has and in some way, jase is learing the 1 day game

No they're not, injuries do not affect stats.

Gillespie has played more first class one day games than both Bond and Lee, he is not learning the game.

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 17:28
injuries do play a part mate & besides jase was equal 3rd in the AB medal - explain that 1

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 17:36
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
injuries do play a part mate & besides jase was equal 3rd in the AB medal - explain that 1

Injuries don't play a part in how many runs you get scored from your bowling or how often you take wickets. Injuries may prevent you from playing every match, but this doesn't effect your averages or strike rates.

He finished equal 4th, but somehow i don't think Shane Bond was elligible :rolleyes: Brett Lee finished equal 2nd by the way, so you siort of shot yourself in the foot with that argument.

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 17:42
Originally posted by Zombie
Injuries don't play a part in how many runs you get scored from your bowling or how often you take wickets. Injuries may prevent you from playing every match, but this doesn't effect your averages or strike rates.

He finished equal 4th, but somehow i don't think Shane Bond was elligible :rolleyes: Brett Lee finished equal 2nd by the way, so you siort of shot yourself in the foot with that argument.

well see - i have resect for jase and you dont simple! we will agree to dissagree with this one & ill be here and the end of the world cup and i will have not second thoughts of saying 'i hate to say i told you so'

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 17:50
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
well see - i have resect for jase and you dont simple! we will agree to dissagree with this one & ill be here and the end of the world cup and i will have not second thoughts of saying 'i hate to say i told you so'

I have lots of respect for Gillespie, I think he is a great bowler. But in the one day form of the game Shane Bond is far more effective and I can almost guarantee that he will score more fantasy points than Gillespie will.

He will take more wickets and score more runs, simple as that.

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 17:54
Originally posted by Zombie
I have lots of respect for Gillespie, I think he is a great bowler.


not a good od1 bower but he's a great bower??? makes real sence :confused: :rolleyes:

Originally posted by Zombie
He will take more wickets and score more runs, simple as that.

runs - yes becase oz wont need all of our batter - kiwis will
wickets - IMHO your trippig

ScouseCat
30 Jan 2003, 18:02
The biggest risk with having Jason Gillespie in your fantasy side is that he is injury prone and may not play all the matches.

Shane Bond is New Zealand's number one bowler and don't forget New Zealand are playing in the weaker group with Kenya, Bangladesh and Canada.

Is Muttiah Muralitharan going to be fit in time for the World Cup??

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 18:07
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
not a good od1 bower but he's a great bower??? makes real sence :confused: :rolleyes:



runs - yes becase oz wont need all of our batter - kiwis will
wickets - IMHO your trippig

When did I say he wasn't a good one day bowler?

Personally I don't think you really know what you are talking about, cricket wise aswell as basic common sense, so we'll leave it at that.

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 18:08
Originally posted by ScouseCat
The biggest risk with having Jason Gillespie in your fantasy side is that he is injury prone and may not play all the matches.

Shane Bond is New Zealand's number one bowler and don't forget New Zealand are playing in the weaker group with Kenya, Bangladesh and Canada.

Is Muttiah Muralitharan going to be fit in time for the World Cup??

ive got to give you that 1 i suppose :( http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif

Zombie
30 Jan 2003, 18:10
Originally posted by ScouseCat

Is Muttiah Muralitharan going to be fit in time for the World Cup??

Apparently so :

Muralitharan on target for Sri Lanka's World Cup opener (http://www-aus.cricket.org/link_to_database/ARCHIVE/CRICKET_NEWS/2003/JAN/129286_SL_30JAN2003.html)

dr nick
30 Jan 2003, 18:25
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
your kidding right - you must be kidding! how can you not be kidding
when picking fantasy teams, its wise to go for standouts in some of the respective teams, and not just pick gillespie because he is better than bond.

although gillespie is probably better than shane bond, he is competing for wickets with mcgrath, lee and warne. shane bond has the added luxury of competing with the likes of vettori, cairns, styris and tuffey, which to my way of thinking, will probably result in bond getting more wickets than dizzy.

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 18:25
if your confused zombie..

IMHO - & its mine...

Shane Bond is NOT a better bowler than Jase Gillespie and he WILL get more wickets than Bond

if you disagree fine

we will see at the end of the World cup who's right

roostersgal4eva
30 Jan 2003, 18:27
Originally posted by nicko18
when picking fantasy teams, its wise to go for standouts in some of the respective teams, and not just pick gillespie because he is better than bond.

although gillespie is probably better than shane bond, he is competing for wickets with mcgrath, lee and warne. shane bond has the added luxury of competing with the likes of vettori, cairns, styris and tuffey, which to my way of thinking, will probably result in bond getting more wickets than dizzy.

i'll give you that one nicko - im not really good at Fantasy teams of any sort because of using my heart rather than my head

Kenny_01
30 Jan 2003, 19:26
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
using my heart rather than my head

Really? Would never have guessed.

Kane McGoodwin
30 Jan 2003, 20:22
My team is:

Hayden (Aus)
Ponting (Aus)
Tendulkar (Ind)
Gibbs (SA)
Lara (WI)

Cairns (NZ)
Kallis (SA) - Trump
Pollock (SA)
Jayasuriya (SL)

Gilchrist (Aus)

Lee (Aus)
Muralitharan (SL)
Bond (NZ)
Nitini (SA)

Jars458
31 Jan 2003, 10:31
Originally posted by Zombie
I have lots of respect for Gillespie, I think he is a great bowler. But in the one day form of the game Shane Bond is far more effective and I can almost guarantee that he will score more fantasy points than Gillespie will.

He will take more wickets and score more runs, simple as that.

I think you are spot on

The only thing that makes me think is that Gillespie got his best one day results on the tour to South Africa

In the early days he was pretty ordinary in the one day game but seems to be improving a lot.

I have picked Bond and Lee ahead of Dizzy but I think it will be close.

ScouseCat
31 Jan 2003, 21:48
Originally posted by roostersgal4eva
ive got to give you that 1 i suppose :( http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif http://www.ten-tenths.com/forum/images/smilies/banghead.gif

The other thing in Shane Bond's favour is that he is more likely to bowl at the death then Jason Gillespie, and therefore will have more of a chance getting cheap wickets at the end of the innings.

ScouseCat
5 Feb 2003, 21:06
This is posted on behalf of Xie, who will hopefully be back on the air shortly.

Team Name: Marvellous Shot That

Matthew Hayden - Australia
Andy Flower - Zimbabwe
Ricky Ponting - Australia
Herschelle Gibbs - South Africa
Sachin Tendulkar - India

Shaun Pollock - South Africa (TRUMP)
Chris Cairns - New Zealand
Jacques Kallis - South Africa
Chris Gayle - West Indies

Adam Gilchrist - Australia

Glenn McGrath - Australia
Stephen Harmison - England
Alan Donald - South Africa
Daniel Vettori - New Zealand

DaveW
5 Feb 2003, 21:22
Greg Chappell is remembered as one of the greatest middle order batsmen of all time. It's his brother Trevor who'll be forever synonymous with the underarm; he didn't do anything else in his career of note.

Zombie
6 Feb 2003, 00:36
Originally posted by DaveW
Greg Chappell is remembered as one of the greatest middle order batsmen of all time. It's his brother Trevor who'll be forever synonymous with the underarm; he didn't do anything else in his career of note.

Thanks for that Dave.

I guess this was meant to go on the underarm thread :)

Squeak
7 Feb 2003, 14:49
Just submitted my team:

ME Trescothick (Eng)
SR Tendulkar (Ind)
RR Sarwan (WI)
Inzamam Ul-haq (Pak)
RT Ponting (Aus)

ST Jayasuriya (SL)
CL Hooper (WI) - Trump
JH Kallis (RSA)
SK Warne (Aus)

R Dravid (Ind)

M Ntini (RSA)
AR Adams (NZ)
Shaoib Aktar (Pak)
M Muralidaran (SL)

SpecialBruce
7 Feb 2003, 20:22
My squad.

Matthew Hayden (Aus)
Ricky Ponting (Aus)
Herscelle Gibbs (RSA)
Shivnarine Chanderpaul (WI)
Ricardo Powell (WI) (Surprised he is not listed as an allrounder)

Chris Cairnes (NZ)
Shaun Pollock (RSA) Trump
Chris Gayle (WI)
Abdur Razzaq (PAK)

Mark Boucher (RSA)

Shane Bond (NZ)
Mervin Dillon (WI)
Wasim Akram (PAK)
Muttiah Murilitheran (SL)

BT
9 Feb 2003, 12:21
I keep getting "error in register" so it looks like i'm not playing!

What is our country code? And why do cricinfo need it anyway? :confused:

Squeak
10 Feb 2003, 17:43
How come if I've already registered a team, I can't login and instead it asks me to register again?

RoosLuver
10 Feb 2003, 17:50
Has anybody got points from yesterdays game?. I had three players who played and it says I have 0 points???

Fall Out Boy
10 Feb 2003, 18:22
Originally posted by RoosLuver
Has anybody got points from yesterdays game?. I had three players who played and it says I have 0 points???

Yes.

Mine says:

"Your world beaters team has a total of 316 points and is ranked 202"