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KaaN10
9 May 2009, 04:44
Cant really see anyone who should be dropped.. Players like Daniher, Hurley, Lucas, McVeigh, Prismall, Reimers are going to have to wait in line.... which is a good thing :thumbsu:

eth-dog
9 May 2009, 07:54
NO CHANGES! that's what I want

Kaiser Powser
9 May 2009, 08:50
If Hurley plays well, i'd like to see him get a game.

It may have to be at the expense of Lovett-Murray or Myers, who has not been bad, but could probably do with a spell though.

Great to have a bit of competition for spots finally.

Imagine when Welsh and Reimers are back.

Nicko_
9 May 2009, 08:54
If Hurley plays well, i'd like to see him get a game.

It may have to be at the expense of Lovett-Murray or Myers, who has not been bad, but could probably do with a spell though.

Great to have a bit of competition for spots finally.

Imagine when Welsh and Reimers are back.

disagree. Regardless how well they play in the twos, nobody in the side played bad enough to be dropped next week, including NLM who has strung together a couple of handy games.

Considering the jobs they have just done, expect Pears to go to Kosi and Hooker to Reiwoldt

Pevers-Legend
9 May 2009, 08:58
Myers was ok last night. Don't mind if he plays or not - for him like many on our list - it is game time and evelopment that is needed - either VFL or AFL.

Dyson will be in the gun this week - he was quiet again. Not terrible, but just didn;t really contribute a lot. He needs to be involved in the game more. He may make way for someone.

Zaka should keep his spot up forward for another week. I like the cut of his jib - his excitment and poise were great - just needs to finish a bit better.

Aside from that - hard to know. Depeneds how the young guys pull up after a tough game with another one to go.

Oh and calling for NLM's head - WTF? He was very good last night. Dropping him would send a message: play well - doesn't matter, we'll drop you anyway.

Kaiser Powser
9 May 2009, 09:05
disagree. Regardless how well they play in the twos, nobody in the side played bad enough to be dropped next week, including NLM who has strung together a couple of handy games.

Considering the jobs they have just done, expect Pears to go to Kosi and Hooker to Reiwoldt

I am not a fan of this mentality.

A good win should not automatically mean 'no changes'. We need to keep improving the team.

Myers was OK last night, he has been a bit less than OK for all the games prior to that. He could certainly be replaced.

Lovett-Murray noticeably breaks team rules, continually bombing to contests, plus he hurts us with his disposal (especially handballs), these things will frustrate the coach trust me. I do feel that he has done enough to hold his spot, but we should be grooming the future, not guys who will be lucky to be on the list when we are top 4.

Obviously match-ups will play a big role if there are going to be any changes.

ghostdog
9 May 2009, 09:08
Myers was ok last night. Don't mind if he plays or not - for him like many on our list - it is game time and evelopment that is needed - either VFL or AFL.

Dyson will be in the gun this week - he was quiet again. Not terrible, but just didn;t really contribute a lot. He needs to be involved in the game more. He may make way for someone.

Zaka should keep his spot up forward for another week. I like the cut of his jib - his excitment and poise were great - just needs to finish a bit better.

Aside from that - hard to know. Depeneds how the young guys pull up after a tough game with another one to go.

Oh and calling for NLM's head - WTF? He was very good last night. Dropping him would send a message: play well - doesn't matter, we'll drop you anyway.

Agreed. You don't drop a leading goal kicker from the week before. He may not be a flashy type of player, but he ran and supported and hit targets. I think the issue, given the quality of most of the side last night, will be selecting a side that can exploit St Kilda's weaknesses (are there any?). That would be the only way to send the right message to the group should an out like NLM be required.

citizen-erased
9 May 2009, 09:16
gotta look at matchups.
Hooker & Pears worked well in tandum against the 2 best forwards of the comps.
Next 2 in Kosi and Riewoldt will need smart, strong, quick defenders. Saints can go very tall in the forward line, so i wouldnt mind seeing Hurley back.

Davey had a shocker, but not enough to warrant being dropped.
Tough call, but i imagine one of Houli, Myers or Davey may be dropped for a Hurley or Danniher. possibly even lucas if he plays well this weekend.

gotta be sharp with the disposals against the saints.

Kaiser Powser
9 May 2009, 09:19
gotta look at matchups.
Hooker & Pears worked well in tandum against the 2 best forwards of the comps.
Next 2 in Kosi and Riewoldt will need smart, strong, quick defenders. Saints can go very tall in the forward line, so i wouldnt mind seeing Hurley back.

Davey had a shocker, but not enough to warrant being dropped.
Tough call, but i imagine one of Houli, Myers or Davey may be dropped for a Hurley or Danniher. possibly even lucas if he plays well this weekend.

gotta be sharp with the disposals against the saints.

Hurley is not that tall. He could match Reiwlodt for height, but not Athletism. I think Pear and Hooker are the best match-ups for Reiwoldt and Kosi. Who are the Saints other forwards?

Zaka11
9 May 2009, 09:20
I must admit my liking for bachar houli is diminishing every game. How many clangers did he have last night. Didnt even look hard at the contest. Spike McVeigh in for Houli.

eth-dog
9 May 2009, 09:20
honestly, if there are any changes, it should be Daniher in and I don't know who out

Kaiser Powser
9 May 2009, 09:25
I must admit my liking for bachar houli is diminishing every game. How many clangers did he have last night. Didnt even look hard at the contest. Spike McVeigh in for Houli.

No and no.

Firstly I thought Houli played very well, sometimes he got slightly caught out by the pace of the game (the Buddy free was bullshit). 80% efficiency is pretty decent. He has worked hard to get in the team and should be rewarded. He is a potentially brilliant player.

McVeigh should not come back until 2 weeks after his ankle is 100%, even if it is mid-year.

Mr Mosquito
9 May 2009, 09:33
I must admit my liking for bachar houli is diminishing every game. How many clangers did he have last night. Didnt even look hard at the contest. Spike McVeigh in for Houli.

Wrong!! One clanger was after being out under the pump by a silly handball too him, another was after a rank holding the ball decision.

His foot skills were sensational, and i cna remember several occasion him laying great tackles. Crunching tackle on hodge, gang tackle on franklin on the wing.

Not getting dropped.

Smokin
9 May 2009, 09:33
McVeigh?? He is out for another month.

All other players (and spike too in time Id say now) will come back via Bendigo except possibly Jetta.

That means Hurley, Daniher, Williams, Quinn (& Jetta) the only real options at this stage. The first 2 the only realistic options Id say.

Both talls though, so we have to manage the delicate blend of team balance. IMHO Knights went too tall too often last year, and has changed this season.

Hooker/Pears cant go out. Gonna be interesting.

On a side note, Zaka looked to have a sore arm of some sort, and may be due a rest to refresh then let him loose on the bigger G against Richmond.

kelvin_sheedy
9 May 2009, 09:36
Ins: Hurley or Daniher, Jetta if fit
Outs: Myers, Zaka (rest)

Hurley or Daniher to take over Myers spot in the backline. Whoever plays best in the VFL should get the gig. Also allows us another bigger guy we can swing forward.

Give Zaka a rest. He got clobbered a few times last night and we need to make sure we don't over do it with these kids.

Dyson just stays in but only because we don't have another mid to come in. His kicking this year has been his best ever and he doesn't give it away as much. It's a positive but he still doesn't impose himself enough.

Smyth94
9 May 2009, 09:37
I must admit my liking for bachar houli is diminishing every game. How many clangers did he have last night. Didnt even look hard at the contest. Spike McVeigh in for Houli.

What?

Houli was solid, very solid.

kelvin_sheedy
9 May 2009, 09:39
I must admit my liking for bachar houli is diminishing every game. How many clangers did he have last night. Didnt even look hard at the contest. Spike McVeigh in for Houli.

3 clangers %80 efficiency.

Did his job well enough to get another game. His kicking is a real weapon.

Zaka11
9 May 2009, 09:39
What?

Houli was solid, very solid.

His first half was ordinary. Kept turning it over. Might have saved himself with some long kicks in the second half.

FrankGrimes
9 May 2009, 09:41
His first half was ordinary. Kept turning it over. Might have saved himself with some long kicks in the second half.

what part of 3 clangers and 80% efficiency dont you understand....?

Willow76
9 May 2009, 09:43
honestly, if there are any changes, it should be Daniher in and I don't know who out

Daniher's last game in was a shocker turned it ovr to much he will have to work through the twos definetly not an auotmatic return from injury.

If Hurley plays well and earns his spot I'd drop Myers and Spike for Houli turns it over under pressure Im not sure he will ever be any good in pressure situations

bomberz08
9 May 2009, 09:44
Myers was ok last night. Don't mind if he plays or not - for him like many on our list - it is game time and evelopment that is needed - either VFL or AFL.

Dyson will be in the gun this week - he was quiet again. Not terrible, but just didn;t really contribute a lot. He needs to be involved in the game more. He may make way for someone.

Zaka should keep his spot up forward for another week. I like the cut of his jib - his excitment and poise were great - just needs to finish a bit better.

Aside from that - hard to know. Depeneds how the young guys pull up after a tough game with another one to go.

Oh and calling for NLM's head - WTF? He was very good last night. Dropping him would send a message: play well - doesn't matter, we'll drop you anyway.

I thought he was easily one of our better player, with 3 goals and a few handy possesions. Shouldn't get dropped.

Hope dyson doesnt get dropped, he has been in career best form, while he didn't get a lot of the pill, when he did get it he was good with it.

Also noticed a lot of the guys were really good at avoiding the tackes by spinning and weaving, was great to watch.

Zaka11
9 May 2009, 09:51
what part of 3 clangers and 80% efficiency dont you understand....?

Look i like the kid but in the first half he was well below what he is capable of. At the stoppages it appeared as though he just let the opposition take it.

BrunoV
9 May 2009, 10:18
I think Myers can probably be put back to the VFL for a month or so.

I am a huge fan but he has grown heaps, had an average preseason and is struggling. I don't think he did enough last night to maintain a spot in the side.

On Zaharakis you dont rest him until he shows signs of tiredness. He is justifying a spot in the side and deserves to stay there.

On Lovett-Murray: everyone else has already said it but he was crucial last night. He ran hard when he needed to and converted. It would be very harsh to leave him out based on his game.

On Houli: again like everyone else I dont know what game that guy was watchning. Houli was good and kicks the ball beautifully.

Dyson might struggle to get a game. I am not sure this is fair because he had been very good the two weeks before and he didn't seem to get mich game time last night.

Spikey
9 May 2009, 11:28
I must admit my liking for bachar houli is diminishing every game. How many clangers did he have last night. Didnt even look hard at the contest. Spike McVeigh in for Houli.

I thought yourname sake had a worse kicking game

Still hating Nat-Rat's handballing. Although he played pretty well otherwise

Mad Bomber Sean
9 May 2009, 11:35
Changes should be made only for match ups or injuries. Everyone played well enough to get a game next week.

1. NLM was pretty damn good last night 13 touches, 85% effeciency, 3 goals
2.Dyson solid but not imposing -12 disposals at 83% efficiency did his job well enough
3. Houili not bad at all - 20 touches at 80% efficiency 2 clangers did his job well enough

I think that if King is not playing perhaps Bellchambers should be dropped to allow Hurley or Daniher to come into the side - which ever plays better in the 2s. This will then allow Hooker to play as a mobile ruck man. Otherwise I dont see any reason to change the team.

dave_27
9 May 2009, 11:38
Hurley is one player I'd like to come in but Hooker would be very stiff to be dropped.

bombersno1
9 May 2009, 11:40
No changes this week. Give Hurley another week to get 100%

Wahooti Fandango
9 May 2009, 11:58
Ins: Hurley or Daniher, Jetta if fit
Outs: Myers, Zaka (rest)

Hurley or Daniher to take over Myers spot in the backline. Whoever plays best in the VFL should get the gig. Also allows us another bigger guy we can swing forward.

Give Zaka a rest. He got clobbered a few times last night and we need to make sure we don't over do it with these kids.

Dyson just stays in but only because we don't have another mid to come in. His kicking this year has been his best ever and he doesn't give it away as much. It's a positive but he still doesn't impose himself enough.

I agree with kelvin. Myers showed improvement, but I would have Daniher and Hurley ahead of him. Zaka could do with a rest and maybe bring in Atkinson and play NLM through the middle and up forward.

Wahooti Fandango
9 May 2009, 12:00
I thought yourname sake had a worse kicking game

Still hating Nat-Rat's handballing. Although he played pretty well otherwise

We have won you over. :thumbsu:

cawshezy
9 May 2009, 12:32
We have won you over. :thumbsu:


IN: Hurley, Daniher
Outs: Myers and Possibly Davey, i know his our x-factor just not confident anymore with his kicking and running.

Smokin
9 May 2009, 12:53
IN: Hurley, Daniher
Outs: <snip> Possibly Davey, i know his our x-factor just not confident anymore with his kicking and running.

are you high?

Smyth94
9 May 2009, 12:54
in: Hurley, daniher
outs: Myers and possibly davey, i know his our x-factor just not confident anymore with his kicking and running.

lol......

AndyLesPaul
9 May 2009, 13:03
IN: Hurley, Daniher
Outs: Myers and Possibly Davey, i know his our x-factor just not confident anymore with his kicking and running.
um MASSIVE disagree right here.:thumbsd:


Bring in two KPP defenders and take out a small forward and a defensive flanker?:confused:

And might i add, how the hell would davey get dropped?

Duckworth
9 May 2009, 13:06
IN: Hurley, Daniher
Outs: Myers and Possibly Davey, i know his our x-factor just not confident anymore with his kicking and running.

This is a rare position to be in for us. Having trouble working out who to drop. IMO we should really capitalise on this situation and make players earn thier spot by playing well at Bendigo. Unless team balance demands it we shouldn't be rushing players back.

Players should be rewarded for their efforts. This also means more that just looking at the stats sheet. It means sticking to their job and showing improvements. Slattery is a good example.

Daniher certainly hasn't done enough to warrant displacing anyone from the team. Davey started out with some poor decision making. I wouldn't drop him though, unless he is injured he adds to much to our team.

cAsEy_18
9 May 2009, 15:25
IN: Hurley
Out: ??

Struggling. Think we need Hurley/Daniher in for the support of Hooker and Pears. But as to who goes out, i'm really not sure. Myers? Maybe. But i'd certainly consider an unchanged side. Another option we could look at, is i saw Bellchambers only played 37% game time, play him a lot more, therefore allow Ryder more time down back. However, i'm more reluctant to do this as i like seeing Ryder around the ground, hence why i'd bring in Hurley.

KaaN10
9 May 2009, 15:26
Davey did make some mistakes but you don't drop someone like Davey.

hird+lloyd=legends
9 May 2009, 15:57
Anyone who is suggesting that we drop Davey must be an undercover saints official.
Why would we drop Davey who gives us the most forward pressure and always makes defenders think and worry. I thought he was good vs the hawks, he just mucked up some kicks, he doesnt do that every week.

Mad Bomber Sean
9 May 2009, 16:59
This is a rare position to be in for us. Having trouble working out who to drop. IMO we should really capitalise on this situation and make players earn thier spot by playing well at Bendigo. Unless team balance demands it we shouldn't be rushing players back.

Players should be rewarded for their efforts. This also means more that just looking at the stats sheet. It means sticking to their job and showing improvements. Slattery is a good example.

Daniher certainly hasn't done enough to warrant displacing anyone from the team. Davey started out with some poor decision making. I wouldn't drop him though, unless he is injured he adds to much to our team.

Good Call Duckworth :thumbsu:

cawshezy
9 May 2009, 17:09
lol......

I thought this would be the response, his looks tired or injured or something just lacking confidence

strategy
9 May 2009, 17:31
Myers out
Hurley in if fit

Dont bring Jetta back too early or McVeigh

The rest will have to work harder to obtain a spot

Darcy wont handle the bigger players at the Sts

strategy
9 May 2009, 17:36
Anyone who is suggesting that we drop Davey must be an undercover saints official.
Why would we drop Davey who gives us the most forward pressure and always makes defenders think and worry. I thought he was good vs the hawks, he just mucked up some kicks, he doesnt do that every week.


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Smyth94
9 May 2009, 18:17
I thought this would be the response, his looks tired or injured or something just lacking confidence

What are you on about?

Davey should've of drilled a couple of goals last night but other than that he was his usual "Davey" self creating constant pressure in our forward line and tackling like a madman - the MC would be insane to drop him.

We need as many players that can apply as much pressure as Davey as possible against the Saints.

loopy_cam
9 May 2009, 18:25
Hayden Skipworth anyone?

BringBackCransberg
9 May 2009, 18:32
One other thing on Houli: earlier in the season he was copping a lot of flak for not taking straight on hits (i.e. stepping to one side instead of tackling front on). He seemed to have learnt that lesson well during his time in the VFL.

Does anyone else get the "chk-chk" loading a shotgun noise in their head when he lowers the ball for a kick? Coolest kicking action going 'round.

Enki
9 May 2009, 18:37
are you high?

I found that remark humourously ironic considering your username, thanks for the laugh. ;)

BrunoV
9 May 2009, 20:07
One other thing on Houli: earlier in the season he was copping a lot of flak for not taking straight on hits (i.e. stepping to one side instead of tackling front on). He seemed to have learnt that lesson well during his time in the VFL.

Does anyone else get the "chk-chk" loading a shotgun noise in their head when he lowers the ball for a kick? Coolest kicking action going 'round.

Yes. :thumbsu:

Sigmund
9 May 2009, 20:46
IN: Hurley, Daniher
Outs: Myers and Possibly Davey, i know his our x-factor just not confident anymore with his kicking and running.


You have to be kidding???:confused::confused: You would hear every coach and back in the AFL breathing a sign of relief if this was to happen. His tacking pressure last night was A grade as always. Seemed a little indecisive with his decision making but I would imagine he would be one of the first 5 picked every week. Not going to happen

Sigmund
9 May 2009, 20:51
Ins: Hurley or Daniher, Jetta if fit
Outs: Myers, Zaka (rest)

Hurley or Daniher to take over Myers spot in the backline. Whoever plays best in the VFL should get the gig. Also allows us another bigger guy we can swing forward.

Give Zaka a rest. He got clobbered a few times last night and we need to make sure we don't over do it with these kids.

Dyson just stays in but only because we don't have another mid to come in. His kicking this year has been his best ever and he doesn't give it away as much. It's a positive but he still doesn't impose himself enough.


Kelvin, he is an elite athlete, not a kid on his first day of grade prep

pazza
9 May 2009, 20:53
My worry going in is the Goddard match-up...because I'm just not sure which way Saints are going to go with him. I'm not sure we'll change the side, but, we might have to in order to get the right match-up for Goddard.

kelvin_sheedy
9 May 2009, 20:59
Kelvin, he is an elite athlete, not a kid on his first day of grade prep

So were Dempsey, Lonergan, Gumbleton, Neagle.....oops :D

.. you get my drift.

Geelong rested Selwood in his first year. Other clubs have done it also. We have a long injury list and I think we need to manage some of these guys a little better.

AndyLesPaul
9 May 2009, 21:08
So were Dempsey, Lonergan, Gumbleton, Neagle.....oops :D

.. you get my drift.

Geelong rested Selwood in his first year. Other clubs have done it also. We have a long injury list and I think we need to manage some of these guys a little better.
This is practically Zaha's second season though. He had a whole season to improve before being drafted.

And why :D when referring to our teams injuries?
I dont think they all even played in their first season

EDIT: Well they all did except Neagle.
But they didnt get injured due to not being given rests.

sen entertainment bloke
9 May 2009, 21:09
My worry going in is the Goddard match-up...because I'm just not sure which way Saints are going to go with him. I'm not sure we'll change the side, but, we might have to in order to get the right match-up for Goddard.

Hocking.

HighettBomber
9 May 2009, 21:14
If Hurley plays well tomorrow he should come in for Myers and Jetta should come back in, not sure who for (I would prefer Slattery to be dropped but that's not going to happen) but i think our forward line pressure when we have Jetta and Davey both in there is a major plus and will be important against the Saints because they rely a lot from generating run from half back.

Houli should not be dropped under any circumstances, he made a couple of mistakes but that was more than made up for by his precise disposal and the run he gave us from half back.

ant555
9 May 2009, 21:21
Hayden Skipworth anyone?


Not likely to come straight back in when he is ready.
Soft tissue injury so he gets a Bendigo game for match fitness.

ant555
9 May 2009, 21:23
I thought this would be the response, his looks tired or injured or something just lacking confidence

How does having a slightly off night with your kicking make you look tired or injured ??
He still chased and tackled as hard as ever and he created opertunities.
You know nothing about how important his forward pressue is if you think he needs to be dropped.

Sigmund
9 May 2009, 21:24
So were Dempsey, Lonergan, Gumbleton, Neagle.....oops :D

.. you get my drift.

Geelong rested Selwood in his first year. Other clubs have done it also. We have a long injury list and I think we need to manage some of these guys a little better.


No doubt he will go out at some point Kelv, but while he is playing well I would not be for his omission

jimmy5
9 May 2009, 22:20
I thought this would be the response, his looks tired or injured or something just lacking confidence

I think I know the passages of play you are referring too.. and man Usain Bolt would have look tired too, if he had run as far and as hard as the little fella did.. so he fluffed the handball, he was exhausted and still trying to create... to suggest he be dropped is ridiculous.

Lance Uppercut
9 May 2009, 22:48
god some people are idiots.

Houli was very important in the win. Played a good game.

Dyson was an excellent contributor. I've watched the replay a couple of times now, & I really think his game was very solid - he did a lot of hard work, played a great link-up game, & made few mistakes. As a notable Dyson basher, I am happy to continue to eat humble pie on this one. Ricky, you are starting to become a player. Much respect.

Myers was ok, not great, not terrible. Possibly could make way for Hurley, but I think a winning team needs to be supported. Myers contributed. Plain & simple.

It's impossible to make a call until we know who's fit, and who's sore. But I think there should be minimum changes to a team that has just thrashed the reigning premiers by 44 points

yaco55
10 May 2009, 00:39
Changes should be made only for match ups or injuries. Everyone played well enough to get a game next week.

1. NLM was pretty damn good last night 13 touches, 85% effeciency, 3 goals
2.Dyson solid but not imposing -12 disposals at 83% efficiency did his job well enough
3. Houili not bad at all - 20 touches at 80% efficiency 2 clangers did his job well enough

I think that if King is not playing perhaps Bellchambers should be dropped to allow Hurley or Daniher to come into the side - which ever plays better in the 2s. This will then allow Hooker to play as a mobile ruck man. Otherwise I dont see any reason to change the team.

agree

FBDonkey
10 May 2009, 02:44
agree

+1 :thumbsu:

Ben the Gooner
10 May 2009, 10:09
Houli out for Nash.

I want someone who attacks the ball, not stands outside the packs.

efcboy
10 May 2009, 11:02
Houli out for Nash.

I want someone who attacks the ball, not stands outside the packs.

so why would you want nash? nash is the softest player on essendon's list.

efcboy
10 May 2009, 11:03
NO CHANGE!

every player contributed to this win. dyson did a very good run-with role in tandom with hocking. myers was decent and so was houli.

we're better off giving the other blokes another week or two to build up fitness and sticking with the current bunch.

stander
10 May 2009, 11:23
Houli out for Nash.

I want someone who attacks the ball, not stands outside the packs.

Settle down; in the field of battle you need your tanks, and on the flanks the snipers are deadly. Young Houli has a lethal weapon with that left foot. He stays.

Smyth94
10 May 2009, 11:37
Houli out for Nash.

I want someone who attacks the ball, not stands outside the packs.

Far too harsh on Bachar.

bacon buster
10 May 2009, 13:25
barring any injuries, no change.

i really like the balance of the side at the moment.

HFF_07
10 May 2009, 14:53
We dont need any change, only change I can see is if Lucas dominates, takes several strong contested marks, kicks a few goals, and imposes himself on the contest today, the other guys coming back from injury, leave them at Bendigo, no need to risk them at a higher level. People calling for Daniher or Hurley in the side, they wont really have a match up, I like the Hooker -> Riewoldt and Pears to Kosi match ups. We need tough inside players against the uncompromising saints, but the balance between inside and out for us seems to be jusy about right. Having hard runners and long kickers will be the key to breaking down the tough saints, getting the ball in wuick and running over their tacklers will be another key, they are the number one tackling side in the comp, so we need to play to their weakness', run and carry, run and carry, kick long, thats the way we will win.

Longy413
10 May 2009, 17:49
Wrong!! One clanger was after being out under the pump by a silly handball too him, another was after a rank holding the ball decision.

He shouldn't and won't be dropped, but he is making the same mistakes.

It was a rank holding the ball decision, but it happened in the first place because he again failed to give the handball to the first option.

He gave up two goals for one of the reasons he has been at Bendigo most of this season. He really needs to get this out of his game.

So were Dempsey, Lonergan, Gumbleton, Neagle.....oops :D

.. you get my drift.

Geelong rested Selwood in his first year. Other clubs have done it also. We have a long injury list and I think we need to manage some of these guys a little better.

Not just Selwood, but Ablett, Bartel, Johnson, Kelly and co.
They rotated and rested them and it's the best example of managing young players.

That said, I'd give him one more game. Just because his confidence in his goal kicking should now be up and there isn't yet anything to bring in for him, Bendigo lost by 90 points and without knowing who played well and who didn't, it doesn't look likely too many put their hand up.

larson
10 May 2009, 18:46
Houli out for Nash.

I want someone who attacks the ball, not stands outside the packs.

No way! Houli played well, I thought his kicking was exceptional.

No changes this week.

kelvin_sheedy
10 May 2009, 19:00
Not just Selwood, but Ablett, Bartel, Johnson, Kelly and co.
They rotated and rested them and it's the best example of managing young players.

That said, I'd give him one more game. Just because his confidence in his goal kicking should now be up and there isn't yet anything to bring in for him, Bendigo lost by 90 points and without knowing who played well and who didn't, it doesn't look likely too many put their hand up.

Not good news with Bendigo.

Zaka's been up and down and I think with Saints pressure he'll get very few opportunities and it could be the right time... but as you said not much coming through.

You've been quiet on the Myers front? Any thoughts?

AndyLesPaul
10 May 2009, 19:19
Houli out for Nash.

I want someone who attacks the ball, not stands outside the packs.
Nash got injured i heard.

Ben the Gooner
10 May 2009, 19:38
Houli isn't accountable enough in defense, nor aggressive enough in attack. Slattery's holding the ball on the wing came from Bachar's refusal to make an option other than stand next to his man and yell for the ball.

I don't want him in the same team as Dempsey, especially against St Kilda.

He needs to develop some defensive skills, and some toughness. He is, to quote Hirdy, a sheepdog.

The Donners
10 May 2009, 19:42
Selecting a side that can exploit St Kilda's weaknesses (are there any?).

A big game against an inform team - St. Kilda are mentally weak.

Put them on the back foot from the opening bounce.

Big Jim
10 May 2009, 20:07
I think we need another tall in defence so i'd go with either Daniher of Hurley in, Myers out. I think it's just for team balance.

cawshezy
10 May 2009, 21:26
so why would you want nash? nash is the softest player on essendon's list.

Leroy Jetta takes that award

Nicko_
10 May 2009, 21:34
I think we need another tall in defence so i'd go with either Daniher of Hurley in, Myers out. I think it's just for team balance.

Myers is hardly a shortass

inspectorman
10 May 2009, 21:35
Leroy Jetta takes that award
hayden skipworth should be back this week :)

AndyLesPaul
10 May 2009, 21:37
Leroy Jetta takes that award
I disagree.
Jetta played a pivotal part in the last minutes of the Anzac day match, through tackling.

He and Davey are tehre for their tackling.

LeeARM
10 May 2009, 21:38
Leroy Jetta takes that award

Are you serious? I wouldn't think of Jetta as soft at all.

bombersno1
10 May 2009, 22:07
Are you serious? I wouldn't think of Jetta as soft at all.

Pure rubbish then..it is one of the two, he is either rubbish or soft:thumbsd:

AndyLesPaul
10 May 2009, 22:10
Pure rubbish then..it is one of the two, he is either rubbish or soft:thumbsd:
Pot Kettle Black.

bombersno1
10 May 2009, 22:15
Hardly, Jetta has been awful, and to think we wasted a top20 pick on a crumber still gives me the you know whats!

fishguts
10 May 2009, 22:25
Houli's kicking was absolutely stunning last Friday.

No changes

Don't fix what isn't broken.

bombersno1
10 May 2009, 22:38
Stunning is a bit generous, he did have 2 clangers. He did well though

larson
10 May 2009, 22:45
Hardly, Jetta has been awful, and to think we wasted a top20 pick on a crumber still gives me the you know whats!

We know how much of an expert you are at reading drafts. Nobody gives a f*** what you think

bombersno1
10 May 2009, 22:47
I never proclaim to be an expert, I was saying in 2006 we stuffed up and Jetta has done nothing to suggest otherwise, Jetta is a decent player but at pick 18 that is WAY over the odds for a small forward. To think we could have got a genuine midfielder...

AndyLesPaul
10 May 2009, 22:48
I never proclaim to be an expert, I was saying in 2006 we stuffed up and Jetta has done nothing to suggest otherwise, Jetta is a decent player but at pick 18 that is WAY over the odds for a small forward. To think we could have got a genuine midfielder...
Tom Hislop. Pick 20.

bombersno1
10 May 2009, 22:53
Tom Hislop. Pick 20.

So what..another one would not have hurt. I do not like taking crumbing forwards early, I just don't.

The Donners
11 May 2009, 09:19
Stunning is a bit generous, he did have 2 clangers. He did well though

Clearly the best kick of Friday nights game.

Ben the Gooner
11 May 2009, 10:31
I never proclaim to be an expert

If only I could be ****ed searching a few threads.

Bombs Away
11 May 2009, 10:54
No changes.

Yes its a young side but lets see where we are, yes we beat the very undermanned and injured hawks but lets see how the kids go against the saints who are flying at the moment.

Great test fro NLM, Dyson, Houli, Pears, Hooker, Myers and the other future players. Lets see how good they are/can become.

The Donners
11 May 2009, 11:12
No changes.

Yes its a young side but lets see where we are, yes we beat the very undermanned and injured hawks but lets see how the kids go against the saints who are flying at the moment.

Great test fro NLM, Dyson, Houli, Pears, Hooker, Myers and the other future players. Lets see how good they are/can become.

Dons were missing more players and of better quality.

Fletcher, Prismall, Welsh, Reimers, Hurley, Hille, Daniher and McVeigh beats Guerra, Young, Ellis, Gilham and Croad.

bombersno1
11 May 2009, 12:13
Clearly the best kick of Friday nights game.

Maybe, but not stunning. Stunning would be 90% efficiency or above

The Donners
11 May 2009, 12:21
Maybe, but not stunning. Stunning would be 90% efficiency or above

We'll have to agree to disagree. I felt we were seeing our version of Dal Santo, a soft outside player with a beautiful kick! If Houli adds defence to his repertoire he'll be star! ;)

Zaka11
11 May 2009, 12:37
No way! Houli played well, I thought his kicking was exceptional.

No changes this week.

Ill admit i was a bit harsh on houli after the win. He can usually win the ball in traffic, just taking a game or two to get back to speed i guess. Keep him in with that raking left that goes BANG!
He showed last year that he can be a great player

rusman
11 May 2009, 13:39
Any chance of Skipworth comming back in?

SirJimi05
11 May 2009, 14:15
I must admit my liking for bachar houli is diminishing every game. How many clangers did he have last night. Didnt even look hard at the contest. Spike McVeigh in for Houli.

He used the ball probably better than anyone else in the team. Not sure which game you were watching.

Kaiser Powser
11 May 2009, 14:21
Any chance of Skipworth comming back in?

Has he returned to full training yet?

Knights may be keen to get a mature body back in the team.

bombersno1
11 May 2009, 14:45
Any chance of Skipworth comming back in?

Hope not, we are better without him.:thumbsu:

Lance Uppercut
11 May 2009, 14:49
Hope not, we are better without him.:thumbsu:

I think I'd find it hard to nominate too many BF posters who's opinion I respect less than yours. Certainly not any Essendon supporters. You are astonishingly ignorant