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BarneyBent
12 May 2009, 14:23
Just looking to gauge some reactions here. I was thinking, with the Etihad deals and piss-poor attendances, etc, that North are going to be in deep trouble very soon. It seems to me that the Gold Coast might start looking a hell of a lot more attractive to them than it did earlier. So basically, my question is this: how would you lot, as supporters of GC17, feel about a merger of the two clubs in the first year of your existence.
In other words, you still get your draft picks, you still get your TAC Cup side, etc, but in 2011, you become the Gold Coast Kangaroos. Your colours include the blue and white of North Melbourne, you don't have an official nickname yet, so the Kangaroos brand could slide in quite well, and, no offence, but GC17 will have very little cultural identity (you won't have had time yet!), suggesting to me that there would not be much of an issue in terms of cultural dilution usually associated with mergers.
It just seems to me that this could work. I would guess (but this is the main reason I'm posting this topic, because I don't know) that the merger would retain the core of GC supporters that is developing with the TAC Cup side at the moment, whilst giving the side a boost of additional support which would help make the club more finanically viable from the get-go, as well as improving its list.
Whether North supporters would go for it is irrelevent. I want to know if Gold Coast supporters would go for it.
bombers_4_ever
12 May 2009, 14:53
They had their chance and told the AFL to F off. I'm looking fwd to seeing a new team start from scratch. That's why I'm a member of Gold Coast and not the Brisbane Lions. All teams start from somewhere. Just look at Fremantle and their limited success. I predict the Gold Coast will be bottom 6 in the 1st three years but will win a premiership before the decade is out.
CoastBhoy
12 May 2009, 15:24
Just won't happen , North have gone back to there roots in Melbourne and trying to start that Melb culture again , and good on them for doing that . I just don't think Norths current predictment is all that bad , unless you read bigfootys AFL board where they have them on deaths door.;)
BarneyBent
12 May 2009, 21:31
Just won't happen , North have gone back to there roots in Melbourne and trying to start that Melb culture again , and good on them for doing that . I just don't think Norths current predictment is all that bad , unless you read bigfootys AFL board where they have them on deaths door.;)
I'm not sure about that. With the revelation of just how bad these Etihad Stadium deals are, in the midst of the global financial crisis, North could be on the downward slope very quickly. I know they told the AFL to **** off in regard to GC earlier, but that was before the economic downturn. Also, the gesture of turning down the AFL has not garnered support to the extent they would have hoped, at least not yet.
But this is not a thread about the economic viability of North Melbourne. If it was, I'd have posted it on the North board. This is about whether GC fans would go for the option of merging with North, if they were to ask.
PumpyChowdown
12 May 2009, 21:58
North had their chance. They can wither and die on their "proud", "shinboner" vine. **** 'em.
Go the Gold Coast!
A new team, starting from scratch. It may take 5, 10, 15 years to build up support, but at least it won't be tainted with that Roo blood. Dirty blood it is.
LuvtheKangas
13 May 2009, 10:42
But this is not a thread about the economic viability of North Melbourne. If it was, I'd have posted it on the North board. This is about whether GC fans would go for the option of merging with North, if they were to ask.
The only reason you didn't post this on the North board is because you knew you would get your balls handed back to you on a plate. Weak effort.
Sandgroper35
13 May 2009, 10:47
Whether North supporters would go for it is irrelevent. I want to know if Gold Coast supporters would go for it.
If the presence of North people is irrelevant then that is more of an identity theft than a merger.
fairdinkum
13 May 2009, 11:38
If North were to finally succumb to economic pressures, don't think for a moment that Andrew Demetriou and his legion of self-obsessed cronies would not try to 'merge' the club with the GC17.
If I were a Gold Coast fan who genuinely wanted my own, new team, I would be hoping for the best for the NMFC.
budge11
13 May 2009, 11:42
North had their chance. They can wither and die on their "proud", "shinboner" vine. **** 'em.
Go the Gold Coast!
A new team, starting from scratch. It may take 5, 10, 15 years to build up support, but at least it won't be tainted with that Roo blood. Dirty blood it is.
Wow man.
BarneyBent
13 May 2009, 12:04
The only reason you didn't post this on the North board is because you knew you would get your balls handed back to you on a plate. Weak effort.
No, I didn't post it on the North board because I'm not asking the opinion of North supporters. I'm asking the opinion of Gold Coast supporters. I already know what North supporters will say. You'll huff and puff about it and say you're doing OK, and tell me to **** off, and no doubt the Swans' financial troubles, past and present, will be brought up at some point. The purpose of this thread was to determine whether, IF North decided they wanted to merge with GC, the GC supporters would mind.
Now tell me how that belongs on the North board.
If the presence of North people is irrelevant then that is more of an identity theft than a merger.
I meant that in the context of this discussion. Obviously the merger could only take place if the North fans were behind it. But as I said above, this is about what the GC fans think. It's a hypothetical. It's really not that difficult to comprehend.
LuvtheKangas
13 May 2009, 12:19
I still call weak effort. You chose a soft target for opening the discussion: GC supporters, who are relatively very few in number, and could be expected to be sympathetic to your "argument".
It's a laugh to suggest that you are only interested in these opinions and not in those of the significant majority who would be dramatically affected by your hypothetical merger. This is not meant to be disrespectful to the GC supporters, but their collective view would be a statistically insignificant one, so what's your play here?
campbell
13 May 2009, 12:39
GC is a stand alone club, been granted a licence as a stand alone club.
NM are not welcome or can be factored in , in anyway shape or form.
NM chose to stay in Melbourne. No turning back for them now.
BarneyBent
13 May 2009, 12:40
I still call weak effort. You chose a soft target for opening the discussion: GC supporters, who are relatively very few in number, and could be expected to be sympathetic to your "argument".
It's a laugh to suggest that you are only interested in these opinions and not in those of the significant majority who would be dramatically affected by your hypothetical merger. This is not meant to be disrespectful to the GC supporters, but their collective view would be a statistically insignificant one, so what's your play here?
My play here is that I already know what North supporters would think. If I posted this in the North board it would be just like the thousands of other relocation/merger/fold threads started by opposition supporters. It's been done. There's no point discussing it at this point in time. In a couple of years, yes, there would be reason to re-open the discussion, though no doubt I'd be beaten to the punch, either by trolls rubbing North's economic difficulties in their faces, or North supporters rubbing their revival in opposition supporters' faces, depending on how it all pans out.
I'm interested in these opinions because I've never heard them before. I'm not Demetriou. Nor am I Arocca or Brayshaw. I'm not trying to organise a merger or plan for the future of a football club here. If I was, then sure, I'd be talking to North supporters. I'm just a neutral observer who is interested in what GC supporters think of a merger, because it occurred to him while having a conversation with another neutral observer that he had no idea.
Funkalicous
13 May 2009, 13:34
The only reason you didn't post this on the North board is because you knew you would get your balls handed back to you on a plate. Weak effort.
Your moderators are an over-sensitive bunch of half-wits. They're more dysfunctional than the clowns running North Melbourne or the supporters that would rather cry victim than watch their team play.
Good luck to them though. May they die peacefully.
LuvtheKangas
13 May 2009, 14:36
Your moderators are an over-sensitive bunch of half-wits. They're more dysfunctional than the clowns running North Melbourne or the supporters that would rather cry victim than watch their team play.
Good luck to them though. May they die peacefully.
It's nothing to do with our mods (who, by the way, are far more accommodating than most others on the site). Rather, posts like the OP or rubbish from losers like yourself would be torn to shreds by the general NMFC posting population.
Try it and see.
CoastBhoy
13 May 2009, 16:25
This feels like 2 stray cats fighting on my front lawn , i usually get the hose onto them , bit harder on Bigfooty.
LuvtheKangas
13 May 2009, 16:27
^^ Fair call. Consider me hosed. Bye bye.
lionshine
13 May 2009, 16:43
Just won't happen now that the kangaroos have turned the gold coast down!
Paddy_Mac
13 May 2009, 16:45
Never will I say "there's no such thing as a stupid question" again.
fairdinkum
13 May 2009, 16:48
Never will I say "there's no such thing as a stupid question" again.
There's no such thing as a stupid question.
Just stupid people.
BarneyBent
14 May 2009, 02:02
Never will I say "there's no such thing as a stupid question" again.
It would be an incredibly stupid question to ask a North supporter. That's why I didn't. I asked GC supporters. I think asking whether there would still be the same amount of support even if North happened to merge with them is quite a reasonable question, and one that hasn't been asked yet. It's unlikely that it would ever happen, but not impossible, given the changing circumstances since North initially declined a move to the Gold Coast.
I'm just interested in a simple hypothetical that actually has nothing to do with you hyper-sensitive North supporters and your opinions. This isn't groundbreaking stuff, it's not of particular importance, but I tend to get bored talking about the same ****ing things over and over (stadium attendences, is so-and-so elite, arguments for and against interstate sides, etc).
Your moderators are an over-sensitive bunch of half-wits. They're more dysfunctional than the clowns running North Melbourne or the supporters that would rather cry victim than watch their team play.
I'd back the intellect of The Other Dean and Twinkletoes, both of whom are highly articulate individuals, over your good self any day of the week.
I don't care too much for this thread, but I also understand the intellectual curiosity of the OP to find out the consensus of a merger among the burgeoning GC17 faithful. I'm not surprised that by and large, they resent North Melbourne and would not welcome a merger. I'm fine with that.
However the hatred from a couple of listed Carlton supporters is quite telling, in particular that grubby little comment about "dirty blood". I imagine that one is coming from a supporter still smarting over the fact that we won a premiership against a salary cap cheating team who was then heavily punished regardless of their failure. Dirty blood indeed.
I'd back the intellect of The Other Dean and Twinkletoes, both of whom are highly articulate individuals, over your good self any day of the week.
I don't care too much for this thread, but I also understand the intellectual curiosity of the OP to find out the consensus of a merger among the burgeoning GC17 faithful. I'm not surprised that by and large, they resent North Melbourne and would not welcome a merger. I'm fine with that.
However the hatred from a couple of listed Carlton supporters is quite telling, in particular that grubby little comment about "dirty blood". I imagine that one is coming from a supporter still smarting over the fact that we won a premiership against a salary cap cheating team who was then heavily punished regardless of their failure. Dirty blood indeed.
Yeah, I suppose if you don't cheat the salary cap you have dirty blood.
The hatred IS ridiculous from some one eyed supporters on this forum.