The Team Vs Richmond

[Boucks09]

ESSENDON
B: Bachar Houli, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Cale Hooker, Adam McPhee
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Jason Winderlich
HF: Leroy Jetta, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking
F: Matthew Lloyd, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
Int: Sam Lonergan, Tom Bellchambers, David Zaharakis, Angus Monfries,
Emg: Scott Lucas, David Myers, Jay Nash


In: Jetta
Out: Myers (omitted)

RICHMOND
B: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Andrew Raines
HB: Joel Bowden, Luke McGuane, Dean Polo
C: Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Richard Tambling, Mitch Morton, Nathan Brown
F: Adam Pattison, Kayne Pettifer, Robin Nahas
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley
Int: Andrew Collins, Mark Coughlan, Matthew White, Will Thursfield, ,
Emg: Daniel Connors, Jack Riewoldt, Adam Thomson

In: Adam Pattison, Will Thursfield
Out: Ben Cousins (hand), Angus Graham (hamstring)


Interesting that Hurley isn't even named as an emergency in front of Nash? I think this is due to Jack Reiwoldt not being named for the Tigers and the decision to stick with NLM up forward this week.

Good to see Leroy get a run. Obviously Slattery will play a lock down role this week rather than trying to play loose. Can't help but feel a little sorry for Myers. All logic says he probably should've been dropped but nonetheless...

[Jaymin]

Richmonds side:-

B: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Andrew Raines
HB: Joel Bowden, Luke McGuane, Dean Polo
C: Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Richard Tambling, Mitch Morton, Nathan Brown
F: Adam Pattison, Kayne Pettifer, Robin Nahas
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley
I/C: Andrew Collins, Mark Coughlan, Matthew White, Will Thursfield
Emg: Daniel Connors, Jack Riewoldt, Adam Thomson

In: Pattison, Thursfield
Out: Ben Cousins (hand), Angus Graham (hamstring)

[AndyLesPaul]

ESSENDON
B: Bachar Houli, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Cale Hooker, Adam McPhee
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Jason Winderlich
HF: Leroy Jetta, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking
F: Matthew Lloyd, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
Int: Sam Lonergan, Tom Bellchambers, David Zaharakis, Angus Monfries,
Emg: Scott Lucas, David Myers, Jay Nash


In: Jetta
Out: Myers (omitted)

RICHMOND
B: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Andrew Raines
HB: Joel Bowden, Luke McGuane, Dean Polo
C: Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Richard Tambling, Mitch Morton, Nathan Brown
F: Adam Pattison, Kayne Pettifer, Robin Nahas
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley
Int: Andrew Collins, Mark Coughlan, Matthew White, Will Thursfield, ,
Emg: Daniel Connors, Jack Riewoldt, Adam Thomson

In: Adam Pattison, Will Thursfield
Out: Ben Cousins (hand), Angus Graham (hamstring)


Interesting that Hurley isn't even named as an emergency in front of Nash? I think this is due to Jack Reiwoldt not being named for the Tigers and the decision to stick with NLM up forward this week.

Good to see Leroy get a run. Obviously Slattery will play a lock down role this week rather than trying to play loose. Can't help but feel a little sorry for Myers. All logic says he probably should've been dropped but nonetheless...
Probably because they dont have all that many KPF's

Good to see Jetta's back though.

[smooth mover]

ESSENDON
B: Bachar Houli, Tayte Pears, Henry Slattery
HB: Courtenay Dempsey, Cale Hooker, Adam McPhee
C: Ricky Dyson, Brent Stanton, Jason Winderlich
HF: Leroy Jetta, Nathan Lovett-Murray, Heath Hocking
F: Matthew Lloyd, Jay Neagle, Alwyn Davey
Foll: Patrick Ryder, Jobe Watson, Andrew Lovett
Int: Sam Lonergan, Tom Bellchambers, David Zaharakis, Angus Monfries,
Emg: Scott Lucas, David Myers, Jay Nash


In: Jetta
Out: Myers (omitted)

RICHMOND
B: Chris Newman, Kelvin Moore, Andrew Raines
HB: Joel Bowden, Luke McGuane, Dean Polo
C: Trent Cotchin, Shane Tuck, Brett Deledio
HF: Richard Tambling, Mitch Morton, Nathan Brown
F: Adam Pattison, Kayne Pettifer, Robin Nahas
Foll: Troy Simmonds, Daniel Jackson, Nathan Foley
Int: Andrew Collins, Mark Coughlan, Matthew White, Will Thursfield, ,
Emg: Daniel Connors, Jack Riewoldt, Adam Thomson

In: Adam Pattison, Will Thursfield
Out: Ben Cousins (hand), Angus Graham (hamstring)


Interesting that Hurley isn't even named as an emergency in front of Nash? I think this is due to Jack Reiwoldt not being named for the Tigers and the decision to stick with NLM up forward this week.

Good to see Leroy get a run. Obviously Slattery will play a lock down role this week rather than trying to play loose. Can't help but feel a little sorry for Myers. All logic says he probably should've been dropped but nonetheless...

I've got a feeling that lucas will play for us, maybe slattery will miss & NLM will play down back??

Also think riewoldt will play for richmond! If he's fit they need him!!

[George Washington]

Hmm, maybe Knighta took the opportunity to give Myers a rest this week, with the excuse of putting Jetta in due to dreamtime. Myers has been improving, albeit slowly. I don't think we will see him out for very long. Hopefully Hurley back in next week...

[Enki]

Interesting that Hurley isn't even named as an emergency in front of Nash? I think this is due to Jack Reiwoldt not being named for the Tigers and the decision to stick with NLM up forward this week.


It's not really that surprising to see Hurley not named. For one he could probably do with another game at Bendigo and also the Tiges don't really have any big forwards, even if Reiwoldt was named. So Hurley would have to displace Pears or Hooker for balance and struture or we would be too tall in the backline. And on their current form he was unlikely to do that. And as you said, with NLM up forward we don't have room to experiment with him there this week either.

[Darealrath]

It's at the G so the Jetta inclusion makes a lot of sense.

I have NFI what to expect from richmond this game.

[Boucks09]

It's not really that surprising to see Hurley not named. For one he could probably do with another game at Bendigo and also the Tiges don't really have any big forwards, even if Reiwoldt was named. So Hurley would have to displace Pears or Hooker for balance and struture or we would be too tall in the backline. And on their current form he was unlikely to do that. And as you said, with NLM up forward we don't have room to experiment with him there this week either.

In terms of structure I was hoping to see McPhee move forward and Hurely come into to replace McPhee as the 3rd backman. I think McPhee is a much better lead up target than NLM.

It also seems that Myers was simply holding his spot until Bachar improved his defensive skills enough to hold down HBF. Last week seems like it was a 'play off' as such and to see how much damage Slattery could do without as much responsibility. I think the backline looks much better with only 2 of Houli, Slattery and Myers in the side.

[bomberstomake8]

In terms of structure I was hoping to see McPhee move forward and Hurely come into to replace McPhee as the 3rd backman. I think McPhee is a much better lead up target than NLM.

It also seems that Myers was simply holding his spot until Bachar improved his defensive skills enough to hold down HBF. Last week seems like it was a 'play off' as such and to see how much damage Slattery could do without as much responsibility. I think the backline looks much better with only 2 of Houli, Slattery and Myers in the side.


im not so sure about the mcphee thing, when mcphee plays he seems to play the same role as monfries, whereas NLM has more x factor and plays a different role to mcphee more closer to goals. considering lloyd also acts as a lead up player i think having mcphee there as well means having one too many lead up targets. plus his rebound from defensive 50 can be very effective.

i dont know what to think about the myers omition.. i think he has been doing pretty well, defensively he has been beating his opponent, he hasnt been providing a lot of run and his use of the ball needs to improve but defensively he has done a good job

[Enki]

In terms of structure I was hoping to see McPhee move forward and Hurely come into to replace McPhee as the 3rd backman. I think McPhee is a much better lead up target than NLM.

It also seems that Myers was simply holding his spot until Bachar improved his defensive skills enough to hold down HBF. Last week seems like it was a 'play off' as such and to see how much damage Slattery could do without as much responsibility. I think the backline looks much better with only 2 of Houli, Slattery and Myers in the side.

The only problem with Hurley coming in to the backline is that McPhee is far more athletic, and can play smaller than he is. I doubt Hurley could achieve that. And with Richmond's small forward line a slower tall defender isn't an ideal inclusion.

Also, while I too prefer McPhee up forward, I also prefer NLM up forward. They are both prety average defenders when they need to play tight but McPhee is better at a loose role than NLM. To be honest while McPhee has improved when playing forward I still prefer NLM there if they are both in the team together. NLM has better goal sense, will take the game on if he thinks he can sneak a goal, and is just a more decisive forward (of course I generally don't like them being in the same team but that's just me). I agree that McPhee is a better lead up forward but can struggle once he has it at times, although to his credit he has got somewhat better over time.

I guess they offer some flexibility anyway, if NLM's style of forward play isn't working we can swap them and try McPhee there.

[Daytripper]

Hmm, maybe Knighta took the opportunity to give Myers a rest this week, with the excuse of putting Jetta in due to dreamtime. Myers has been improving, albeit slowly. I don't think we will see him out for very long. Hopefully Hurley back in next week...

With Reimers, Prismall, Hurley, McVeigh & Fletcher all due to return to the seniors either next week or the week after, I can't see Myers returning to the side for quite some time unless we get a heapp of injuries.

[Wahooti Fandango]

Play both Jetta and Davey at Neagle's feet and just bomb the ball into the forward line. I can foresee Bowden getting repeatedly run down by Jetta and Davey.

[Boucks09]

The only problem with Hurley coming in to the backline is that McPhee is far more athletic, and can play smaller than he is. I doubt Hurley could achieve that. And with Richmond's small forward line a slower tall defender isn't an ideal inclusion.

Also, while I too prefer McPhee up forward, I also prefer NLM up forward. They are both prety average defenders when they need to play tight but McPhee is better at a loose role than NLM. To be honest while McPhee has improved when playing forward I still prefer NLM there if they are both in the team together. NLM has better goal sense, will take the game on if he thinks he can sneak a goal, and is just a more decisive forward (of course I generally don't like them being in the same team but that's just me). I agree that McPhee is a better lead up forward but can struggle once he has it at times, although to his credit he has got somewhat better over time.

I guess they offer some flexibility anyway, if NLM's style of forward play isn't working we can swap them and try McPhee there.


Yeah I know what you mean about NLM being more dangerous around goal. He is more likely to make something out of nothing I guess. However before his suspension (and subsequent move to the backline) McPhee did kick 3 against Freo and was a key reason for us getting a good start against them early in the game.

In regards to having too many leading forwards I would see it like this:

- McPhee plays high forward on one flank (coming upto the wing/half back)
- Monfries plays high forward on the other flank (coming up to the wing)
-Lloyd and Neagle rotate as full forward/centre half forward
- Davey at the feet of the CHF
- Jetta at the feet of the FF

I just felt at times against St.Kilda we missed the leading high forward (as Monfries was playing terrible). Whilst our style is to run through zones, which is the best way, it can't help to also have high leading options also.

It wil be very interesting to see how we play NLM this week, given he played down back last week along with McPhee. Surely he will go forward and stretch Richmond's defense.

With Reimers, Prismall, Hurley, McVeigh & Fletcher all due to return to the seniors either next week or the week after, I can't see Myers returning to the side for quite some time unless we get a heapp of injuries.

I don't think that is necessarily true.

McVeigh, Welsh and Prismall are all competing for midfield spots.
Reimers is competing for a half forward/midfield spot (e.g. Zaharakis).
Hurley is competing with Hooker and Pears.
Fletcher will replace McPhee (who will replace NLM up forward IMHO).

I feel Myers is competing directly with Houli and Slattery and indirectly with Dempsey for a spot at HBF. Houli has far from cemented his spot in the seniors yet.

[Enki]

I just felt at times against St.Kilda we missed the leading high forward (as Monfries was playing terrible). Whilst our style is to run through zones, which is the best way, it can't help to also have high leading options also.


That's interesting, I thought the opposite. I thought Lloyd and Neagle did enough work high, but we lacked a crumbing option to apply pressure deep and lock the ball in our forward line. Monfries was terrible but even then we got the ball into our forward line enough, and honestly Monfries marking it at 60-70 out isn't really any better than any of our midfielders doing the same thing, which they did enough.

On reflection, I thought Jetta probably would have been a much better option than Monfries. Even though Jetta is inconsistent (I'm not his biggest fan) he still helps create goals and would have helped hold up the ball in our forward line when we got it there. Too often we would miss a mark or kick it to a contest and the Saints had all the numbers and easily rebounded out of our forward line. I like Davey pushing into the midfield, but if we do that we have no true crumbers. Monfries is slow so his leads usually have to be long searching ones, not fast breaking ones (there are obviously exceptions to this).This means he is often outside the forward line and even if he is in the forward 50 he simply isn't a crumber the likes of Davey and Jetta.

Of course I havn't yet rewatched that particular game so my analysis could be way off, as my initial impressions of games are sometimes skewed by certain events. Maybe if Monfries was on his impact at HF would have helped our forward line more than a crumber.

[Boucks09]

That's interesting, I thought the opposite. I thought Lloyd and Neagle did enough work high, but we lacked a crumbing option to apply pressure deep and lock the ball in our forward line. Monfries was terrible but even then we got the ball into our forward line enough, and honestly Monfries marking it at 60-70 out isn't really any better than any of our midfielders doing the same thing, which they did enough.

On reflection, I thought Jetta probably would have been a much better option than Monfries. Even though Jetta is inconsistent (I'm not his biggest fan) he still helps create goals and would have helped hold up the ball in our forward line when we got it there. Too often we would miss a mark or kick it to a contest and the Saints had all the numbers and easily rebounded out of our forward line. I like Davey pushing into the midfield, but if we do that we have no true crumbers. Monfries is slow so his leads usually have to be long searching ones, not fast breaking ones (there are obviously exceptions to this).This means he is often outside the forward line and even if he is in the forward 50 he simply isn't a crumber the likes of Davey and Jetta.

Of course I havn't yet rewatched that particular game so my analysis could be way off, as my initial impressions of games are sometimes skewed by certain events. Maybe if Monfries was on his impact at HF would have helped our forward line more than a crumber.

I agree with you, at times against St.Kilda we certainly did lack additional crumbers inside 50, which is why we have brought in Jetta for Myers. There were many times in which Lloyd or Neagle was forced to compete with 3 St.Kilda defenders which was nigh on impossible. To stop that happening in the future we obviously need to have forwards who are dangerous and will make their opponents accountable. Monfries can do that (albeit inconsisently), but I think having McPhee leading up the ground will create more space for Lloyd and Neagle to lead up into.

Our forward structure is very interesting and I'm looking forward to seeing how it evolves throughout the season as we get better and better at working through defensive zones.

[kelvin_sheedy]

Hmm, maybe Knighta took the opportunity to give Myers a rest this week, with the excuse of putting Jetta in due to dreamtime. Myers has been improving, albeit slowly. I don't think we will see him out for very long. Hopefully Hurley back in next week...

:eek: Wow.

The excuses continue for the kid. He's been terrible and will struggle to get any games till the end of the year unless injuries hit us again.

As has been mentioned McVeigh, Prismall, Reimers, Welsh, Fletcher, Hurley will be inclusions over the next few weeks. Myers will need to show serious form in the VFL to get a game.

[GoDons]

Hurley probably only misses due to conservatism and the lack of match up, a solid showing for Bendigo should put his name in serious contention for Geelong.

A credit to Leroy for reclaiming his spot. Everytime he's gone down to Bendigo he's performed. Now it's a matter of going to the next level at AFL level, and what better opportunity than dream time at the G.

[Big Blow Hard]

Picked Jetta might change my tip now

More pearls of wisdom from Jetta's most constructive critic.
We Get It, YOU don't like him. :rolleyes:

Of you 118 posts, over 10% have been critical of Jetta, with you offering up no better than "Jetta is shit fullstop".
How about giving us a bit more from this clearly insightful mind, that would obviously make you a better selector than Knights and co?

[Nicko_]

its seems to be that everybody thinks that Hooker, Pears, and Hurley cant play in the same backline. im thinking why the hell not??? if Hurley was to come back that would simply make Pears the 3rd defender, and he would be almost quaranteed to beat any 3rd forward.

[Jonesy1987]

its seems to be that everybody thinks that Hooker, Pears, and Hurley cant play in the same backline. im thinking why the hell not??? if Hurley was to come back that would simply make Pears the 3rd defender, and he would be almost quaranteed to beat any 3rd forward.

Not that they can't play in the same backline, just that they would struggle to find match ups when Richmond can't put a key forward out on the ground.

[The Dustbin]

Happy with the team and the inclusion of Jetta.

Ryder will jump over Simmonds in the ruck. I'm tipping Gus to bounce back after his shocker last week.

Not making an outrageous prediction, but providing we start well we should win this game.

[GoDons]

He makes Richard Tambling look like a Brownlow Medalist, all he does is dance around on the field and tries to make easy shots look hard.

Christ.

Why people have such vendettas against players I will never know. It's pathetic.

At the end of the day, it's just a game of football. You want a team to win. Why would you waste time hating a member of that team?

Criticism can be good, but the dribble you're serving up isn't criticism, you're just chastising.

You're making a fool of yourself.

[SirJimi05]

Happy with the team and the inclusion of Jetta.

Ryder will jump over Simmonds in the ruck. I'm tipping Gus to bounce back after his shocker last week.

Not making an outrageous prediction, but providing we start well we should win this game.


Me neither. I'm going to be cautious with my prediction and say that Essendon should win by 40+.

[The Dustbin]

Me neither. I'm going to be cautious with my prediction and say that Essendon should win by 40+.

I'll be cautious and say 25 pts. :p

[rainman06]

For about the 5th week in a row, i thought to myself that there was only one or two ways we could go at the selection table....and Essendon agreed with one of those ways.

Might seem a pointless thing to say, but over the last 5 years, that is a much rarer occursion than one would think.

[daffo]

Really happy that Jetta is getting another senior game. He is starting to perform up to the standards we need him to. Sad to see Myers out, but i'm not complaining about it. He needs a couple of weeks in the VFL but I can see him coming back into the side quite soon.
Hopefully we can see give games from Monfries, Neagle and Pears.

[homerg29]

I do like that we are fielding a regular team without making too many forced changes. It's been a while and is a good position to be in.

I don't like that Hurley misses out based on match-ups. Surely he is our future and if all three of Hooker, Pears and Hurley can't be on the ground at once we rotate one from the bench?

[lamaros]

You have to reward a team when it plays well, Jetta being the only change makes sense.

Pressure will be on this week, and especially next week, so anyone wanting to hold their spot is going to have to perform. I think this is fair. You can't drop people who are playing well for guys who are just coming back from injury, but you can drop them once those guys are fit again.

Zaha, Houli, Monfries, NLM, Lonergan, Bellchambers, and maybe even Neagle are still in the gun this week. A poor performance could see a few changes.

Hopefully not though. Hopefully everyone plays well and we beat the Tigers, in what could still be a tough match for us.

Dons by 25 for me.

[Sealz]

I’m happy with the inclusion of Jetta, especially for a night game at the G’… I think our forward line is much more dangerous both offensively and defensively with both he and Davey snapping around…
I think that Kighter needs to give the kid a decent run… he seems to play 1 or 2 games then go back to the maggos… he should be given 4-6 weeks in the side…without the fear of being axed…so we can see what he is really made of… because at the minute he seems to be lacking the confidence to take shoots on goal and fumbling at the wrong moments…just one good game away from turning the corner

[bacon buster]

for some reason, i had a dream last night that jetta bagged 5 or 6 goals. weird.

hopefully a good omen!

[R_n_B]

Good luck to Leroy, hope he can cement his place on the team.

BTW, I can't remember the last time where there was a game I expected and was entirely confident we will win!
Maybe Melbourne or Brisbane last year - whichever came later.

[cocobonobo]

for some reason, i had a dream last night that jetta bagged 5 or 6 goals. weird.

hopefully a good omen!

must be an omen considering its dreamtime at the G. :D