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10 Jun 2009, 00:39
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Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince is an upcoming 2009 fantasy-adventure film based on the novel of the same name by J. K. Rowling. It is the sixth film in the popular Harry Potter film series. It is directed by David Yates, the director of the fifth film, Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. David Heyman and David Barron are producing the film, and Steve Kloves, screenwriter of the first four films (but not the fifth), has returned as screenwriter for this film. Filming began on 24 September 2007, and the film was originally planned for a UK and North American release on 21 November 2008, but on 14 August 2008, it was announced that the release date for the film was to be delayed to 17 July 2009, but this date was later changed to 15 July 2009. Like the previous film, the sixth film will be simultaneously released in regular cinemas and IMAX 3-D, however in the latter, rumours suggest that under 25 minutes of the film will be in 3D.

In December 2007, Warner Bros. released its official plot summary:

Voldemort is tightening his grip on both the Muggle and wizarding worlds and Hogwarts is no longer the safe haven it once was. Harry suspects that dangers may even lie within the castle, but Dumbledore is more intent upon preparing him for the final battle that he knows is fast approaching. Together they work to find the key to unlock Voldemort's defenses and, to this end, Dumbledore recruits his old friend and colleague, the well-connected and unsuspecting bon vivant Professor Horace Slughorn, whom he believes holds crucial information.

Meanwhile, the students are under attack from a very different adversary as teenage hormones rage across the ramparts. Harry finds himself increasingly drawn to Ginny, and so is Dean Thomas. Lavender Brown has decided that Ron is the one for her, only she hasn’t counted on Romilda Vane’s chocolates. Then there’s Hermione, simmering with jealousy but determined not to show her feelings. As romance blossoms, one student remains aloof. He is determined to make his mark, albeit a dark one. Love is in the air, but tragedy lies ahead, and Hogwarts may never be the same again.

Release date(s): The film is scheduled for release in the United States, Canada, Australia, New Zealand and United Kingdom on the 15th July, 2009.

Harry Potter and the Half-Blood Prince (2009 film) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harry_Potter_and_the_Half-Blood_Prince_%28film%29)

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Nato_Dog
7 Jul 2009, 19:40
I really want this movie to be good and I'm quite excited for it's release but I keep on getting this sinking feeling that it will be bad and will be too different from the book.

kaysee
7 Jul 2009, 21:29
I really want this movie to be good and I'm quite excited for it's release but I keep on getting this sinking feeling that it will be bad and will be too different from the book.

I wasn't overly impressed with this 6th installment of the series. Found the ending rather a let down despite the emotional events. Then the 'teenage romances' seemed as filler... the whole book just seemed too forced.

I would rank it with the 2nd book as the worst in the series... both about 2/5 or 4/10.

Will see the movie but knowing the book and it is going to translate to just cheesy on the big screen.

jordanrobbo3
7 Jul 2009, 22:01
I loved the book, and can't wait to see the movie...but just have a bad feeling i'm gonna hate it. Kaysee what was your favourite book?

bloodpumpsRnB
7 Jul 2009, 23:15
I simply cannot wait. Have been counting down the days since they pushed it back in November. And HBP was my favourite book of the series. So many things happened.

Nato_Dog
7 Jul 2009, 23:57
I simply cannot wait. Have been counting down the days since they pushed it back in November. And HBP was my favourite book of the series. So many things happened.That's why I reckon the movie will not be very good, just too many things to put onto the screen or they change what happened in the book completely. I still haven't forgiven them for not including Gryffindor winning the Quidditch Cup in the third book reckon and the way Harry recieved the Firebolt :thumbsd:.

bloodpumpsRnB
8 Jul 2009, 00:29
That's why I reckon the movie will not be very good, just too many things to put onto the screen or they change what happened in the book completely. I still haven't forgiven them for not including Gryffindor winning the Quidditch Cup in the third book reckon and the way Harry recieved the Firebolt :thumbsd:.
We have to remember that the movies are not made for us die-hard HP fans (assuming you are one. I certainly am). I hated that Cho Chang was the one who betrayed Dumbledore's Army, but it was a much easier way to end the relationship between her and Harry rather than the way it happens in the book, in which they fall apart over an extended period of time. I also didn't like how they missed out the part where Harry puts his head through the fire and asks Kreacher if Sirius is there and he lies, which assures Harry that his vision Voldemort injuring Sirius is the truth.

I think that when the Death Eaters attack the Burrow I will just close my eyes and pretend it's not really happening.

Nato_Dog
8 Jul 2009, 00:36
We have to remember that the movies are not made for us die-hard HP fans (assuming you are one. I certainly am). I hated that Cho Chang was the one who betrayed Dumbledore's Army, but it was a much easier way to end the relationship between her and Harry rather than the way it happens in the book, in which they fall apart over an extended period of time. I also didn't like how they missed out the part where Harry puts his head through the fire and asks Kreacher if Sirius is there and he lies, which assures Harry that his vision Voldemort injuring Sirius is the truth.

I think that when the Death Eaters attack the Burrow I will just close my eyes and pretend it's not really happening.I think I will join you there, I could understand if it was happening in the last book but not this one.

Also I do understand why they take bits out and change them so that people who haven't read the books can understand what is going on and to make sure they actually finish in a decent amount of time.

And yes I'm a die-hard fan :o :D.

Mint Condition
8 Jul 2009, 13:46
The first few reviews have been good. 7 in so far, all positive, average 8.2/10 on rotten tomatoes. Obviously that's not that many yet, but signs are good.

http://au.rottentomatoes.com/m/harry_potter_and_the_half_blood_prince/

Quite a few of those are saying it's the best movie in the series so far.

Nato_Dog
8 Jul 2009, 14:05
Hmmm, those reviews have given me a bit more hope. Will just have to wait until the movie comes out and I see it for myself.

ManWithNoName
8 Jul 2009, 21:27
The first few reviews have been good. 7 in so far, all positive, average 8.2/10 on rotten tomatoes. Obviously that's not that many yet, but signs are good.

http://au.rottentomatoes.com/m/harry_potter_and_the_half_blood_prince/

Quite a few of those are saying it's the best movie in the series so far.
That's not really saying a lot though. The other movies haven't been that much chop.

Mop
8 Jul 2009, 21:48
I hate the fact that they've excluded out the climax fight scene at the end.
Bastards!

Bartram_Class
9 Jul 2009, 00:14
LOTR books had a simple structure at its heart, destroy ring. The journey narrative is a lot more complex in the HP series.

Warsaw
9 Jul 2009, 00:20
The trailers have looked good, but then again so did the others and the movies turned out to be pretty average.

It'll obviously do wonders in the box office but I hope that this can be a good movie for anyone to watch.

SBI
9 Jul 2009, 12:00
I think if they had their time again, they might have casted someone other than the lass they did for Ginny. She just isn't good looking enough for the role.

Deledinho
9 Jul 2009, 22:09
I still would. I will admit I have a ranga fetish though.

ManWithNoName
9 Jul 2009, 22:17
The trailers have looked good, but then again so did the others and the movies turned out to be pretty average.

It'll obviously do wonders in the box office but I hope that this can be a good movie for anyone to watch.
This one's gonna have significant screentime from Alan Rickman, Michael Gambon and Jim Broadbent. It has to be good.

kaysee
10 Jul 2009, 14:50
I loved the book, and can't wait to see the movie...but just have a bad feeling i'm gonna hate it. Kaysee what was your favourite book?

I am just a regular reader (movie watcher) and no big HP disciple or anything, but probably the 3rd... Prisoner of Azkaban.

I didn't mind many elements of THBP... enjoyed the plotlines with Harry/Slughorn/Dumbledore/Snape/Malfoy and Tom Riddle... but the whole teenage relationship triangles going on sounded to contrived towards the upcoming movie to inject love interests.

I am also over quidditch... can't recall from memory but has Giffindor ever lost a game where HP played a full game (ie hasn't been injured, effected by spells etc)?

Anyway 1st couple of reviews sound promising.

Rohan25
12 Jul 2009, 22:12
I think if they had their time again, they might have casted someone other than the lass they did for Ginny. She just isn't good looking enough for the role.

My gf and I were just talking about that. I guess after her role in the first book was just a shy, mousey redhead in the background, the casting agents didn't predict that she'd become the school sexpot that every bloke would want.:p

This was by far my favourite book. A real pageturner with a thrilling ending. It seems to me that in this movie they are going to focus too much on romances and not enough on the backstory, which I thought was a real strength of the book.

BILC
13 Jul 2009, 18:45
Has anyone seen it yet?

chickawah
13 Jul 2009, 20:46
LOTR books had a simple structure at its heart, destroy ring. The journey narrative is a lot more complex in the HP series.

Why? Destroy Voldemort, pretty simple IMO.

McLeodMagic
13 Jul 2009, 22:48
Just watched it tonight. Excellent film, highly recommended! Went with a mate who hasn't seen any of the films and he thought it was damn good too.

Nato_Dog
13 Jul 2009, 23:35
How closely does it follow the book?

McLeodMagic
13 Jul 2009, 23:46
How closely does it follow the book?

I haven't read the book so I can't comment on it.

Mint Condition
14 Jul 2009, 10:45
98% on RT now...only 1 "rotten" review from 41, and that one could have gone either way - still gave it 3/5.

Looking forward to seeing it now.

bloodpumpsRnB
14 Jul 2009, 18:37
I haven't seen it yet but a couple of my mates did last night, and by the sounds of it, this movie has been made for the general movie watcher, not avid Harry Potter fans. Apparently, the only memories Dumbledore shows Harry are the first one with Tom Riddle as a boy (which we've already seen fifteen times) and the one Slughorn tampered with.

I am going in with low expectations.

crows98
14 Jul 2009, 19:02
Seeing this tomorrow night – should be good. I expect it will be good (like all of them) but i highly doubt i will watch it a second time on DVD.

the-X-factor
14 Jul 2009, 22:23
Saw it at IMAX tonight and really enjoyed it. Probably my favourite movie in the series thus far. Have not read any of the books, however.

Mint Condition
15 Jul 2009, 09:48
The problem with reading the book just before seeing the movie is that you're setting yourself up for disappointment - you won't be able to help comparing the two and thinking, 'that didn't happen' 'this was left out' 'they changed that' etc...

I haven't read the 6th book for ages so while I know the story and will probably pick up on a few specific things that were left out etc, I really don't think it will bother me...you have to try and watch the movie as its own thing.

I've heard they cut out the battle in hogwarts at the end...that makes sense to me as there's a much bigger battle at hogwarts in the 7th, and I don't think they really want the climax of the two to be the same. Disappointed they've cut out most of the Tom Riddle memory scenes though.

PHX
15 Jul 2009, 09:50
If they have cut out most of the battle and Riddles memories why the hell does it still go for 150 minutes! :confused: Unless they really are cranking up the love stories. :cool:

Deledinho
15 Jul 2009, 11:40
It's really sounding just like the others - good for those who haven't read the books, shithouse for those who have. :thumbsd:

Mop
15 Jul 2009, 11:49
My girlfriend and I are seeing it tonight after I finish work. Quite excited.

Mint Condition
15 Jul 2009, 11:50
If they have cut out most of the battle and Riddles memories why the hell does it still go for 150 minutes! :confused: Unless they really are cranking up the love stories. :cool:

They probably have a bit, but there's also all the stuff with Malfoy, Ron and Quidditch, Slughorn, Half Blood Prince/potions, the luck potion, Snape etc. There's a lot of material to try and fit into a movie!! They've also apparently added a Death Eater attack on the Burrow, which didn't happen in the book, but sounds cool enough to me.

I can understand them dropping some of those memories, like the ones about the Gaunts and such...but the one I wish they kept (along with the 2 they have) is when Voldemort went to Dumbledore at Hogwarts to interview for the Defense Against the Dark Arts position and then put a curse on it when he didn't get it! I think they could have made that one awesome.

Warsaw
15 Jul 2009, 19:21
The Age gave it 1 star.....

King Arthur
15 Jul 2009, 21:56
The Age gave it 1 star.....

Quite rightly.

I saw it tonight and thought it stunk. To ANYONE who has read the books and comes in with a thought of what is going to happen, you are in for disappointment. Major disappointment. Personally, I’ve read HBP 15+ times (I know ) and the only real similarity between film and book is the name. Sadly the film cannot go into any depth due to it's length and the fact that it would take ages explaining some things e.g. memories of the Gaunt’s and after about 15min in it goes off on a complete tangent to the book in terms of character development, story and themes.

The real surprise of the film it is more off a comedy then an action flick, with Ron and Lavender Brown leading from the front in this department. The CGI is amazing as you would expect whilst the dialogue is frustratingly different (in a bad way) from the book (in the rare scenes where book and film intertwine).

Overall the film is NOTHING like the book and it's major changes, one involving Draco and another involving Horcruxes are simply laughable in its impossibility. Nevertheless, people who have not read the book should like it but for the die-hard fans, like me, you really have to block out everything you know about HP to really enjoy it.

Chrisrocks53
15 Jul 2009, 23:37
I went and watched it tonight having read all the books up to Order of the Phoenix and only watching the first 2 films. I was of the opinion that I had out-grown the Harry Potter Series. I went in being skeptical and not expecting to like it.

However I wakled out thoroughly enjoying it and it has reinvigorated my interest in the series.

I didn't like the ending though; but I'm sure it wasn't as Hollywood-esque in the book?

It's done it's job; I now will defiantly be watching the next one when it comes out.

crazyman27
16 Jul 2009, 01:39
Quite rightly.

I saw it tonight and thought it stunk. To ANYONE who has read the books and comes in with a thought of what is going to happen, you are in for disappointment. Major disappointment. Personally, I’ve read HBP 15+ times (I know ) and the only real similarity between film and book is the name. Sadly the film cannot go into any depth due to it's length and the fact that it would take ages explaining some things e.g. memories of the Gaunt’s and after about 15min in it goes off on a complete tangent to the book in terms of character development, story and themes.

The real surprise of the film it is more off a comedy then an action flick, with Ron and Lavender Brown leading from the front in this department. The CGI is amazing as you would expect whilst the dialogue is frustratingly different (in a bad way) from the book (in the rare scenes where book and film intertwine).

Overall the film is NOTHING like the book and it's major changes, one involving Draco and another involving Horcruxes are simply laughable in its impossibility. Nevertheless, people who have not read the book should like it but for the die-hard fans, like me, you really have to block out everything you know about HP to really enjoy it.



Agree 100%. Saw it tonight and was extremely dissappointed. Haven't read the book for quite a while (which I reckon stopped me from completely hating the movie) but the amount of times there were conflictions where what was happening was completely different to what I thought should be happening was frustrating.

I can understand why they cut out bits and add bits to cater for an audience who hasn't read the books but at times I felt like I wasn't actually watching Harry Potter.

I give it 2 bald heads.

Bartram_Class
16 Jul 2009, 02:37
Was so so disappointed.

Truly horrific adaptation, I know it's difficult and they have to miss out certain elements but there were too many important parts missed out. Two and a half hours and they miss out the main action scene from the book?

The Ron/Lavender storyline was a waste of valuable screentime, should only have been a minute long extra, but the first half of the film was nothing but Lavender's (rather unattractive) face.

Worst film yet IMO.

stephen_bayne
16 Jul 2009, 04:21
I'm hoping for an animated series down the line in the spirit of Batman The Animated Series with it being a bit darker and as appealing to adults as it is children that completely follows the books. Never gonna happen but I did say hope.

Shaunn
16 Jul 2009, 04:40
Was so so disappointed.

Truly horrific adaptation, I know it's difficult and they have to miss out certain elements but there were too many important parts missed out. Two and a half hours and they miss out the main action scene from the book?

The Ron/Lavender storyline was a waste of valuable screentime, should only have been a minute long extra, but the first half of the film was nothing but Lavender's (rather unattractive) face.

Worst film yet IMO.

I agree, there was no action in it at all, all it was about was love shit, nothing else, i was really disappointed with it, probably the worst one yet, they make us wait longer to watch it and it turns out pretty average.

jordanrobbo3
16 Jul 2009, 10:01
They didn't even explain the reason why Voldemort used the cave as a hiding place for the Horcrux...and all the missed memories....crucial!!!!!!

I'm gonna go read the book again. At least we got more of Alan Rickman then in previous movies.

Mint Condition
16 Jul 2009, 10:03
Overall the film is NOTHING like the book and it's major changes, one involving Draco and another involving Horcruxes are simply laughable in its impossibility. [/FONT][/COLOR]



What were the major changes involving Draco and Horcruxes? I'm a big fan of the books too and I don't think they made any major changes with either...just cut out detail. Specifically at the end of the book Harry knew what the majority of the horcruxes were and the reasoning for them all, while at the end of the movie he just knows how many of them are out there...but I don't think that's really such a big deal and it's too much backstory to fit in a movie. It wouldn't translate well to film explaining all that - people would get lost.

As for Draco, I don't see what the major change was??

Personally I think it was one of the better movies (I'd rate it 2nd after Azkaban). I think the two movies that were the worst (1st and 2nd) were the most faithful to the books so I don't think being 100% faithful to the books is the way they should do it.

I really liked the style of this movie - the dark colours and the subtle bits of magic woven into everything...and a more medieval, menacing looking hogwarts is a lot more how I always imagined it. The performances are all great too...Snape, Slughorn, Bellatrix and Dumbledore (for a change) are all fantastic in this and I think the younger actors have improved a lot too. Plus the two kids that played the young Tom Riddle were awesome. It's also genuinely pretty funny in a few parts!!

All you other book fans that are panning it because of what's left out/changed etc need to start thinking of the movie as separate to the book...a lot of the details of the book wouldn't translate well to film and aren't 100% necessary to the core arc of the story anyway. Overall the basic point of HBP is to take Harry to the point where he knows the secret of Voldemort's supposed immortality (and thus how to destroy him) and to take away his greatest support/guide. It does that and I think while not getting all the detail, it gets the spirit of the book pretty well. Personally I'm glad the writers and director had the balls to deviate from the book where necessary to make the movie flow. I reckon it really sets up the last one well.

I do agree there isn't enough action and too much fluff, but I have the same criticism of the book. If they went the other way though and cut out a lot of the fluff then the other half of the fan base would complain, so it's pretty hard for them.

King Arthur
16 Jul 2009, 11:55
As for Draco, I don't see what the major change was??



The major change i thought was the fact that the vanishing cabinet worked fine throughout the film. We saw countless scenes of Draco putting birds and apples into it and seeing it disappear and then reappear. Why would he wait until he did to use it then when it was working perfectly prior? In the book it was Rosmerta who tipped of Draco about Dumbledore's absence and thus he used it then but in the film it gave us no real reason why he waited for so long.. Furthermore, why bring the Death Eaters in in the first place? There was no battle and they did not kill Dumbledore.

The whole memory sequence was a let down for me. The fact that Harry and Dumbledore did not hear the world Horcruxes in the initial memory made it a lot more complex than it should have been. The fact that Harry was not immobilised and able to stop Draco attacking Dumbledore lack reality. Why wouldn’t he just disarm Draco or let Snape to walk on by?


The fact that Dumbledore appeared inside the castle under the lame excuse of "there's a lot of advantages of being me" (or something similar) ruined it too and they choose to change several minor details for no reason e.g. Dumbledore using a 'scooper' instead of a Goblet to drink the potion and WTF was up with all the students pointing their wands in the air after Dumbledore died?

The only good additional scene that wasn't in the book was the scene involving Snape and Dumbledore near the end where they fight and Snape sais something like "I don't really want to do it" which sets up well for DH and Snape's innocence.

crazyman27
16 Jul 2009, 12:32
The major change i thought was the fact that the vanishing cabinet worked fine throughout the film. We saw countless scenes of Draco putting birds and apples into it and seeing it disappear and then reappear. Why would he wait until he did to use it then when it was working perfectly prior? In the book it was Rosmerta who tipped of Draco about Dumbledore's absence and thus he used it then but in the film it gave us no real reason why he waited for so long.. Furthermore, why bring the Death Eaters in in the first place? There was no battle and they did not kill Dumbledore.

The whole memory sequence was a let down for me. The fact that Harry and Dumbledore did not hear the world Horcruxes in the initial memory made it a lot more complex than it should have been. The fact that Harry was not immobilised and able to stop Draco attacking Dumbledore lack reality. Why wouldn’t he just disarm Draco or let Snape to walk on by?


The fact that Dumbledore appeared inside the castle under the lame excuse of "there's a lot of advantages of being me" (or something similar) ruined it too and they choose to change several minor details for no reason e.g. Dumbledore using a 'scooper' instead of a Goblet to drink the potion and WTF was up with all the students pointing their wands in the air after Dumbledore died?

The only good additional scene that wasn't in the book was the scene involving Snape and Dumbledore near the end where they fight and Snape sais something like "I don't really want to do it" which sets up well for DH and Snape's innocence.


I think at the start of the film it was working (transported the apple), but it couldn't transport living things (the bird was dead/unconscious). When the bird came back Draco knew the cabinet would work. I don't get why the bird came back black though? Or was it a different bird?

Good point about the death eaters coming to Hogwarts. There was no real resistance to Malfoy's attempt to kill Dumbledore, what purpose did they serve?

Another thing that annoyed me was that when Harry got taken by the inferi, Dumbledore produced the fire that repelled them (in the book it's Harry), yet he was meant to be weak and nearly unconscious (remember Harry feels guilty for Dumbledore's death because he made him drink the potion that made him weak that prevented him from fighting back against the death eaters).

There was definately more comedy than the other movies and I thought Slughorn was good (mainly because he looked wacked off his face half the time), but there was way to much of the 'love' factor following the Ron/Lavender/Hermoine triangle. Harry Potter is about magic and adventure, it's not meant to be like Neighbours.

Mint Condition
16 Jul 2009, 12:38
The major change i thought was the fact that the vanishing cabinet worked fine throughout the film. We saw countless scenes of Draco putting birds and apples into it and seeing it disappear and then reappear. Why would he wait until he did to use it then when it was working perfectly prior?


Actually the vanishing cabinet didn't work the whole time as when he put the bird in it came back dead initially (or knocked out at least as it was somehow alive when Harry and Ginny went to the room of requirement later - or maybe that was a different bird). Then at the end when Dumbledore asks how he got the Death Eater's into the Castle he mentioned he'd been fixing the cabinet all year or something similar. They didn't have a battle that's true (they cut it because they didn't want to have the same climax to both 6 and 7), but the Death Eater's did I guess make sure it happened, provided back up in case there was a battle and then smashed up the great hall and Hagrid's hut, which is symbolic. I think you can justify their presence, it's just not exactly the same justification as in the book.

Yes Harry probably could have been immobilised like in the book, but the reason he didn't go up to help in the movie is because a) Dumbledore told him specifically not to move, and b) Snape came up to him and gave him the impression he was going to help and not to make himself seen...so I think that's easily explained.

The apparating outside of the castle and the scooper thing...does that really bother you? I mean it's not that big a stretch to suggest the headmaster of the school has some privileges and can in a way slip through the protective magic of the school - I don't think it's a Dumbledore is so powerful thing, I think it's tied to the position.

King Arthur
16 Jul 2009, 13:13
Hmm didn't realise that the vanishing cabnet had killed/injured the bird....Thought that was done by Borgin or Burke to show that they had recieved the bird e.g. like taking a bite out of the apple previously. Your probably right though.

The whole thing about Harry not being immobalised that annoyed me was that why change it? It would not have changed running time or cost and made it alot more believable whilst staying true to the book but i guess that the director/screen writer choose to alter these small things to differentiate the film from the book which i didn't like.

I think it would have been a lot better of a film if they focussed on more important things like the horcruxes and voldemorts past etc then having irrelevant scenes about Ron's love triangle which could have been included in a shorter amount of time. You lost the feeling that the book had and it almost seemed like a magical version of Twilight.

Maybe it's just me but the thing's like the apperating and the character's seemingly being able to do magic without wands annoyed me. Still the film was realy well put together and some of the acting was brilliant (whoever plays Slughorn and Snape).

3/5 for me. ;)

jordanrobbo3
16 Jul 2009, 13:19
Another thing that annoyed me was that when Harry got taken by the inferi, Dumbledore produced the fire that repelled them (in the book it's Harry), yet he was meant to be weak and nearly unconscious (remember Harry feels guilty for Dumbledore's death because he made him drink the potion that made him weak that prevented him from fighting back against the death eaters).


I'm sure it was still Dumbledore that produced the fire in the book.

crazyman27
16 Jul 2009, 14:07
I'm sure it was still Dumbledore that produced the fire in the book.

Yep you're right. My mistake, haven't read the book for a while.

Cap
16 Jul 2009, 14:50
I have to admit I haven’t read the book for ages so my memory is a bit faded. I actually thought it was as good as the book regardless of the changes they made.
I do agree that the storyline of the series was a bit overshadowed by Rons love triangle but it reality it’s a kids book with the movies aimed at kids and some of the finer details wouldn’t have translated well onto a movie and probably don’t detract from the story being told.

magic_johnson!
16 Jul 2009, 15:11
What is going to be the big end scene in the next movie?

lyall
16 Jul 2009, 15:16
I have to admit I haven’t read the book for ages so my memory is a bit faded. I actually thought it was as good as the book regardless of the changes they made.
I do agree that the storyline of the series was a bit overshadowed by Rons love triangle but it reality it’s a kids book with the movies aimed at kids and some of the finer details wouldn’t have translated well onto a movie and probably don’t detract from the story being told.

I pretty much agree with this.

Though I did walk out wondering what really had happened in the last 2.5 hours that I would want to see again on dvd or whatever. Not really all that much to be honest

sheller891
16 Jul 2009, 19:33
shocking!

my mates and i were laughing the whole way through. was actually a comedy and thats ridiculous. every bit was funny and even more-so due to horrible acting.

so many important key plot points not included or changed completely. jumped from one key part to another with no explanation. love traingles of ron took up 2 hours which was actually really funny. completely shocking adaptation of a book.

to sum up the movie when snape goes "im the half-blood prince" you dont give a shit at all, coz it was never discussed. dumbledore died in the book and i shed a tear, in the movie - no care. we wanted to see all the interesting memories from the pensieve about dumbledore. we saw hardly any and they werent true to the book.

wow

blues4flag
16 Jul 2009, 22:15
Didn't like it. I didn't expect it to be true to the book and was hoping it'd be good in its own right. Unfortunately, while I thought the movie flowed a lot better than the previous movies, it just wasn't particularly interesting. Too much time spent on the love interests, not enough focus on the more important aspects of the plot.

Unfortunately, after being disappointed sixth time I've come to the conclusion that the books just don't adapt well to movies. The books have a heavy focus on characterisation and the plot moves along slowly, which works well because she's a very good writer.

However, there just isn't the time to properly develop the characters in the movie. Hopefully part 7 will work better given it'll be spread across two movies.

Mop
16 Jul 2009, 23:39
I'm so very very very annoyed they cut the end climax. David Yates' reasoning is crap. I could see 100 big fight scenes and it wouldn't get dull. I wish they'd gotten another director really.

Luna finding Harry and not Tonks was strange, I don't understand why they changed that either.

So, in summary I liked it, but it didn't have any real BAM moment, got up into 4th gear so to speak but never hit 5th.

Bring on Deathly Hallows pt 1!

Nato_Dog
16 Jul 2009, 23:56
Thought the movie wasn't all that bad, yes they left out a few key plots which I wasn't happy about but could see their reasoning. The thing that annoyed me most was when the Burrow got attacked big wtf moment didn't occur in this book and had no relevance to the plot what so ever. Actually on par with that was the ending I reckon they could have done that a lot better, should have cut the Burrow being attacked and used that screen-time to fix the ending.

Dime
17 Jul 2009, 13:43
Agree with a couple of things that blues4flag and Sheller said. Namely their hinting at the fact that the movie just can't be long enough to develop the characters the way that the book does. Their is no substance to any of it. You don't feel anything or give a shit about them.
I'm sure that for a neutral viewer who hasn't read the books, hearing Snape declare he was the half-blood prince meant nothing. Because it was rushed over so quickly in the film. Even when Dumbledore died you really didn't care too much. His relationship with Harry was so much stronger in the book. And contrary to a lot of people I actually think that the Dumbledore actor gave a shithouse performance. Also would have a helped I thought to maybe end on his funeral ala the book. Show the white tomb etc and the fact he was buried with his wand.

For me I was so dissapointed with all the memories about the horcruxes that were missing. It kind of just ended without hitting home about the enormity of the task which awaits Harry. Even when they went to the cave to get the locket (no hint as to why Voldemort chose that location in the film) it shat me that he just knew straight away that 'hey it needs a blood sacrifice to open!' and 'oh one of us has to drink it'.

I haven't really read up on it but can anyone tell me why they felt the attack on the burrow scene was needed? Took up screentime which could have been used much better in other places IMO.

One other thing which someone touched on was the fact that Harry wasn't immobilised when Dumbledore was killed. Harry Potter is a character which Rowling has built up in great detail. And the character she has created would not stand back and watch him get killed. I don't care if Dumbledore or Snape told him to be quiet. And even if he was taken by surprise when Snape did do it, he would react instantly instead of letting them get all the way out to the grounds. Just a terrible change of story there. Also just wondered why Dumbledore chose the tower to return to from the cave, and also how Malfoy was supposed to know exactly where he'd go. The Dark Mark indicated it in the book. But noooooooooooo, another change in the film with Bellatrix making it AFTER Dumbledore is killed.

I guess I kind of set myself up for dissapointment the moment I walked into the cinema, as I know the detail and r'ships are far too much to put into a movie. But I can't help feeling that it still could have been much better. The director/writer chose to focus much more strongly on less relevant parts than the things which were really important and prevalant in the book. Even changing things which seemed to make little sense.

I'm sure I'll be back in here as I remember a million of the other things which shat me, but for now those are some of my feelings.

rdhopkins2
17 Jul 2009, 14:28
Saw it last night at IMAX and was disappointed. 2/5. Whilst I haven't read the books in a while, the film seemed to jump all over and you couldn't work out what was going on.

The scenery was excellent and some great acting, but overall I couldn't help but think they'd lost the plot...

Mint Condition
17 Jul 2009, 16:54
Even when they went to the cave to get the locket (no hint as to why Voldemort chose that location in the film) it shat me that he just knew straight away that 'hey it needs a blood sacrifice to open!' and 'oh one of us has to drink it'.

I haven't really read up on it but can anyone tell me why they felt the attack on the burrow scene was needed? Took up screentime which could have been used much better in other places IMO.

In the memory scene where Dumbledore first met the young Tom Riddle he had a photo of the cliff face and sea where the cave entrance was in his room so it wasn't completely random.

And they added it because they felt they needed to add an action scene as the book is light on it. I didn't mind...honestly the 6th book and similarly this movie is just a set up for the 7th, which I think will translate to film really well...though again, I'm sure it will disappoint you and others that get so stuck on the differences.

crowsarethebest
17 Jul 2009, 21:55
That was pretty horrible. The only good part of the movie was basically when Harry and Dumbledore went to collect the Horcrux and after. 2 stars. The movie felt disjointed and the jokes that were supposed to be "funny" were absolutely cringeworthy. The last 30 minutes saved the movie a bit although the ending I wasn't really a fan of..

legitimatic
18 Jul 2009, 03:21
Terrible movie, just terrible, completely unlike the book, crap acting, just plods on and the love interests was so boring.

crows98
18 Jul 2009, 11:10
Didn't like it. I didn't expect it to be true to the book and was hoping it'd be good in its own right. Unfortunately, while I thought the movie flowed a lot better than the previous movies, it just wasn't particularly interesting. Too much time spent on the love interests, not enough focus on the more important aspects of the plot.

Unfortunately, after being disappointed sixth time I've come to the conclusion that the books just don't adapt well to movies. The books have a heavy focus on characterisation and the plot moves along slowly, which works well because she's a very good writer.

However, there just isn't the time to properly develop the characters in the movie. Hopefully part 7 will work better given it'll be spread across two movies.

I agree with this. Saw it last night and walked out of the cinema very disappointed.

I agree the books don’t adapt well to the movie and a lot of that has to do with the length of the books. The half blood price was something like 650 pages? – How the hell can anyone expect to cut that down to 2 and a half hour?

The 7th instalment of HP – Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows the directors are breaking it into 2 parts. IMO to try and keep the integrity of the story line they should have seriously considered doing the same with this movie as well and maybe even the 5th book as well. Too much critical information was cut out for anyone who has read the book to follow it and enjoy it. 650 pages of words broken down into 180 minutes of screen time cannot possibly work – so why even try.

I thought the first 2 movies were well done and kept the integrity of JK Rowling book but after that they have been a disappointment.

Biggie
18 Jul 2009, 13:57
A little boring for mine.

Strachuniee
19 Jul 2009, 23:04
One other thing which someone touched on was the fact that Harry wasn't immobilised when Dumbledore was killed. Harry Potter is a character which Rowling has built up in great detail. And the character she has created would not stand back and watch him get killed. I don't care if Dumbledore or Snape told him to be quiet. And even if he was taken by surprise when Snape did do it, he would react instantly instead of letting them get all the way out to the grounds. Just a terrible change of story there. Also just wondered why Dumbledore chose the tower to return to from the cave, and also how Malfoy was supposed to know exactly where he'd go. The Dark Mark indicated it in the book. But noooooooooooo, another change in the film with Bellatrix making it AFTER Dumbledore is killed.


This was one of the things that just topped off my annoyance of the movie straying from the true plot. It may be trivial, but it would have been just as practical if not easier to have Harry stunned. Would have added some drama to the Dumbledore death aswell IMO.
Was disappointed with the final duel in hogwarts being left out. I hadn't read the HBP for a while so i actually went home thinking that i was thinking about the wrong book. I'm glad i haven't read the book for ages otherwise this post would have been much longer. Also the lack of story development r.e. voldemort's past was dissapointing.
All in all didn't mind the movie and gave it a pass, however it just lacked excitement. There were many times, especially during that love triangle crap, where i was bored and impatient rather than being immersed in the story line.

adelaide_40
20 Jul 2009, 11:59
I admit to not being a big Harry Potter fan but I went to see it with people who are. I haven't read the book but couldn't get into the story-line at all when Snape announced he was the half-blood prince it was just meh no big deal.

The love story-lines were annoying. While the comedy part's were not funny.

Freo_Premiers_09
21 Jul 2009, 00:27
harry potter was ggood


i loved it

legitimatic
21 Jul 2009, 04:22
harry potter was ggood


i loved it

Deadset you are the shittest troll I have ever seen.

Rohan25
21 Jul 2009, 21:48
I am a huge HP fan, have read all of the books several times each. Personally I thought this was a really good effort. I loved the first scene with Harry and Dumbledore, I thought it showed the relationship between the two of them really well, and provided a link to the last film.

I laughed a lot through the movie, but I thought the interplay of light and dark worked really well. For every light and goofy scene there was often a confronting scene to follow. Examples of this were Hermione skulling a glass of butterbeer and getting a little tipsy, which was followed by Katie being hoisted in the air by the curse. Likewise, Ron's goofy love potion scene, was followed by his eyes rolling back in his head, and foam coming out of his mouth.

Draco was a constant dark thread amidst all of the shenanigans, he showed the angst his character was feeling really well. His ordeal was a parallel storyline to all of the humour, which was a constant reminder over all the frivolity that he was struggling with something. While his schoolmates were enjoying the best part of their teens, he had already left his innocence well behind him.

I loved the shot of the outside of the castle with him staring pensively out the window, alone. In fact, the cinematography and camera work on the whole was just gorgeous.

Harry getting high on Felix Felicis was pretty funny. His acting has come along way. I wondered why they used Luna instead of Tonks to find Harry, but I was glad to see Luna get another scene anyway.

They set up a lot for the next films. They could have easily cut the scene where Draco disarms Dumbledore, but they left it in. This scene is crucial to the next movie. We also get a completely unnecessary reference to Regulus Black which I thought was cool. Showing Ollivander get kidnapped at the start was a good idea, him being so crucial to Deathly Hallows. I thought having Ginny hide the book was a neat idea, as it gives her something extra to do in the final film. This is the first film where the makers knew the ending, and it is plainly obvious.

There were some things I was a bit unhappy about, such as Harry's lack of knowledge on what a horcrux is. In the book he only takes a limited understanding of what a horcrux is into the next book, but here, he is told next to nothing. I also would have liked to see more intensity in the Harry/Snape fight at the end. I wanted to see some real fury out of both of them, but it is just too understated from mine. In the book, Snape is screaming at Harry, not being cool and calm. I also wish they had left in Dumbledore's line "I am not worried Harry, I am with you", which was one of my favourite moments in the book.

On the whole, I thought this movie had some flaws, but all film adaptations of our favourite books do. I think it told the story quite well.

DoubleO7
22 Jul 2009, 11:51
Sir Michael Gambon has revealed that he does not read the Harry Potter novels, according to reports. The actor, 68, has played Professor Albus Dumbledore in the wizard franchise since third instalment Harry Potter And The Prisoner Of Azkaban, after taking over the role from the late Richard Harris. However, Gambon said that he will never pick up one of J.K. Rowling's books for fear of spoiling the illusion of working on the films.

- Gambon: 'I refuse to read Potter novels' (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a166520/gambon-i-refuse-to-read-potter-novels.html)

No wonder he's so awful as Dumbledore; the final scenes in HBP lacked any of the emotion which was present in the books. Terrible acting...

Strachuniee
22 Jul 2009, 18:05
- Gambon: 'I refuse to read Potter novels' (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/showbiz/a166520/gambon-i-refuse-to-read-potter-novels.html)

No wonder he's so awful as Dumbledore; the final scenes in HBP lacked any of the emotion which was present in the books. Terrible acting...

Don't agree with what he says. I would have thought he would want to research Dumbledore as well a possible to get a better understanding of the character. Guess it explains the terrible portrayal.