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SirJimi05
15 Jun 2009, 14:43
Laycock's 2009 season over
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/images/spacer.gif Monday, 15 June 2009
Craig Rowston for essendonfc.com.au
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Essendon ruckman, Jason Laycock, was today ruled out of the remainder of the 2009 season with an ongoing foot injury.
Football opertions manager, Paul Hamilton, said the 201cm Tasmanian will be on crutches for the next four weeks.
"We have decided to rule him out for the rest of the season following a recent sugical review," Hamilton said.
http://www.essendonfc.com.au/news/news.asp?nid=6725
I guess we were all expecting this but it is now official. Let's hope he can get his foot and body right for 2010.
Colin D'Cops
15 Jun 2009, 14:45
He's contracted until 2010 isn't he?
SirJimi05
15 Jun 2009, 14:49
He's contracted until 2010 isn't he?
Yep until the end of 2010. :thumbsu:
Colin D'Cops
15 Jun 2009, 14:51
Cheers Jim. If he can't get on the park regularly next year and Bellchambers shows a little more, you get the feeling it could be lights out for Jason.
Phat Toni
15 Jun 2009, 15:21
Cheers Jim. If he can't get on the park regularly next year and Bellchambers shows a little more, you get the feeling it could be lights out for Jason.
He would be third in line ATM, thing that sets him apart from Big Bell is his ability to play forward. We could play 3 ruck/forwards AKA Adelaide.
The_Young_Gun
15 Jun 2009, 16:59
Goodbye Jason Laycock..
Unless Knighta is in love with this kid I think its fair to say he'll be up for being traded at the end of the season.
Though I supose he is contracted till 2010, so technically he'll most likely stay at Essendon. I suggest that we should trade him because we already have a good lineup of Ruckman anyway.. Hille, Ryder, Bellchambers...
Ben the Gooner
15 Jun 2009, 17:04
Who would give anything of substance up for a player with no guarantees about his playing future? Why would we accept a fourth round pick (for instance) if we wouldn't take that pick?
warney7
15 Jun 2009, 17:14
There's a common story for a lot of foot injuries, it seems.
Get one and your f*****!
Ben the Gooner
15 Jun 2009, 17:16
Unless you are Sir James.
RangaInTeal
15 Jun 2009, 17:19
Unless you are Sir James.
& Travis Varcoe
SirJimi05
15 Jun 2009, 17:36
Goodbye Jason Laycock..
Unless Knighta is in love with this kid I think its fair to say he'll be up for being traded at the end of the season.
Though I supose he is contracted till 2010, so technically he'll most likely stay at Essendon. I suggest that we should trade him because we already have a good lineup of Ruckman anyway.. Hille, Ryder, Bellchambers...
Laycock is a long way ahead of Bellchambers at this point in time.
Also, we have no idea how Hille will come back from his kneee reco.
We need Laycock for 2010 minimum. I thought this would have been pretty obvious.
Darealrath
15 Jun 2009, 17:46
Very sad for him. Really had the potential to have a break out season if his body didn't let him down again.
cross#4
15 Jun 2009, 19:18
If he was to get traded would you guys take a pick 25-35?
Hirdman
15 Jun 2009, 20:14
There's a common story for a lot of foot injuries, it seems.
Get one and your f*****!
I have heard this a few times, am I missing something? the only career that looks to have been ruined by this type of injury is Egan. Even Warnock is playing now coming of stress fractures, many players come back from them.
bOmBeR_BoY1
15 Jun 2009, 22:23
Does anybody really care? I mean, honestly?
He has done nothing for a good three seasons now. He is a liability to keep on the list.
The "supporters" who were claiming after Hille went down earlier in the year how important Laycock is to our side were clearly trying to kid themselves. These were the same people last year who were continually posting criticism about, and I quote, "pea heart" after every game.
I'm sure he is a lovely guy in real life, in fact positive he is, but it is time to cut our losses here.
Does anybody really care? I mean, honestly?
He has done nothing for a good three seasons now. He is a liability to keep on the list.
That's harsh to say that. I for one DO care. HONESTLY do care.
It may be true that he hasn't been that great, but come on, to have a 'who cares' attitude is poor.
The guy is battling a recurring foot injury that has kept him out of competitive footy bar ONE game in the reserves. He signed a two year contract, and the first year has gone to waste. How do you think Jason feles?
Don't you at least feel a sense of frustration for Jason that he hasn't been able to at least get on the park and play football?
It doesn't matter who the player is, regardless of what they have done football wise, when someone sustains a major injury, comes back, and incurs the same injury straight away, destroying their season, you have to feel for them.
I hope Jason can overcome the injury and start 2010 at full strength.
The "supporters" who were claiming after Hille went down earlier in the year how important Laycock is to our side were clearly trying to kid themselves. These were the same people last year who were continually posting criticism.I claimed that Laycock became much more important when Hille went down, and maintain that he is. I was never on the 'anti-Laycock' bandwagon, either. He can be frustrating as hell with his sometimes non-existent urgency in games, but I would still love for him to be playing 6-7 minutes a quarter to give Ryder support right now.
If he was to get traded would you guys take a pick 25-35?
Depends on how much further the development of players like Bellchambers and, especially, Bock comes along.
But I would inclined to say yes, a 25-35 pick, which is a second rounder would suffice. Considering future picks will come harder to come by with the introduction of the GC17 into the trade and draft weeks.
That would be the pick he would be worth, and IMO i think we would win out of a trade for pick 25. With Hille not being able to complete a full pre-season next year, I doubt we would risk trading off our only other full bodied ruckman. Belly fills the gaps and Ryder is doing well pitch hitting but we need a strong body in the ruck next year. Hopefully he can complete a full pre-season and we'll be on our way.
Boucks09
16 Jun 2009, 18:01
This is terrible news. Anybody that doesn't see this has absolutely no idea about how our team operates.
Does anybody else thing that Knights has lost patience with Laycock? Here is why I'm getting that feeling:
- Whenever questioned about Laycock, Knights has seemed frustrated and disappointed with his progress (even prior to the Hille injury). Using terms such as 'he needs to get to work harder at getting his body right"
- The decision to bring him back so quickly. It felt like he went from 'indefinite' to playing for Bendigo. Almost asif Knights was like 'well **** it, if you are sore lets see if you can play through it.
I know they are only small things but it doesn't take much to fall out of favour.
I personally hope he is able to come back firing next season and have a full season to show his worth. We could definetely play Hille, Ryder and Laycock in the same team as ruckman/forwards. It would be a lethal combination and make us a very difficult team to match up against.
Get well soon Jason :thumbsu:
Ben the Gooner
16 Jun 2009, 18:10
Does anybody really care? I mean, honestly?
He has done nothing for a good three seasons now. He is a liability to keep on the list.
The "supporters" who were claiming after Hille went down earlier in the year how important Laycock is to our side were clearly trying to kid themselves. These were the same people last year who were continually posting criticism about, and I quote, "pea heart" after every game.
I'm sure he is a lovely guy in real life, in fact positive he is, but it is time to cut our losses here.
Bump "Weekly Laycock Whinge" before you shoot your mouth off.
bOmBeR_BoY1
16 Jun 2009, 18:55
That's harsh to say that. I for one DO care. HONESTLY do care.
It may be true that he hasn't been that great, but come on, to have a 'who cares' attitude is poor.
How do you think Jason feles?
Don't you at least feel a sense of frustration for Jason that he hasn't been able to at least get on the park and play football?
I am sure Jason feels totally helpless in this current situation, but enough is enough. As I said in my original post, it is nothing personal against Jason - he seems like a great person, off the field. We are running a football club though, not a sympathy refuge for players. He has been on the list for 7 years and we are still waiting for him to blossom - how much time can a club afford to commit to a player? The sad fact is if he was a foot shorter and played a midfield-type role, considering the amount of good performances he has put in for the club, he would not be on the list for a number of reasons after seven years. The tall blokes are always given more time to develop, which is fair enough and been proven - but seven years later with Laycock and we still have not had value for money.
What annoys me more than anything though is the people who have continually stuck the boot into Laycock at every opportunity over the last few years who now suddenly think, after Hille did his knee, that Laycock is the best thing since Polly Farmer. He really is not in the long term picture of EFC and it would be enormously disappointing to see him on the list this time next year. This situation would potentially mean we cannot give another developing player a chance on our list to prove his worth.
As for the previous poster who wanted a reference to the 'Weekly Laycock Whinge' to see who is responsible, here it is:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469290
Ben the Gooner
16 Jun 2009, 19:11
As for the previous poster who wanted a reference to the 'Weekly Laycock Whinge' to see who is responsible, here it is:
http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=469290
And how many of us (note) were defending him?
bOmBeR_BoY1
16 Jun 2009, 19:18
And how many of us (note) were defending him?
That thread is nearly 12 months old.
Obviously in a "whinge thread" you aren't going to find much positive feedback on Laycock. I'm talking about the general consensus from some supporters since Hille went down with injury.
Ben the Gooner
16 Jun 2009, 19:28
That thread is nearly 12 months old.
Obviously in a "whinge thread" you aren't going to find much positive feedback on Laycock. I'm talking about the general consensus from some supporters since Hille went down with injury.
You are going to find the same people who spoke about how important Laycock is defending him in that thread.
:thumbsu:Does anybody really care? I mean, honestly?
He has done nothing for a good three seasons now. He is a liability to keep on the list.
The "supporters" who were claiming after Hille went down earlier in the year how important Laycock is to our side were clearly trying to kid themselves. These were the same people last year who were continually posting criticism about, and I quote, "pea heart" after every game.
I'm sure he is a lovely guy in real life, in fact positive he is, but it is time to cut our losses here.
well said :thumbsu:
stay true
16 Jun 2009, 20:58
Frustrating but expected news. Hope he can get his body right for next season.
Wahooti Fandango
16 Jun 2009, 22:58
Bad news as he is an important depth play for us, particularly with Hille out. It must also be hard for him personally. One never likes to see a player dogged by injuries.
Does anybody really care? I mean, honestly?
He has done nothing for a good three seasons now. He is a liability to keep on the list.
The "supporters" who were claiming after Hille went down earlier in the year how important Laycock is to our side were clearly trying to kid themselves. These were the same people last year who were continually posting criticism about, and I quote, "pea heart" after every game.
I'm sure he is a lovely guy in real life, in fact positive he is, but it is time to cut our losses here.
After the 2007 season there were serious discussions here and on BB about trading Hille as we might not need him. Now, Hille had a breakout year last year (at age 26) and Laycock went backwards, but Laycock played a lot of very good games the second half of 2007. With the question marks over Gumby he would also be a good forward option to have.
Rumour also had it he played injured a decent amount of last year as well before succumbing.
But ignoring all that, he's contracted until 2010 anyway.
I am sure Jason feels totally helpless in this current situation, but enough is enough. As I said in my original post, it is nothing personal against Jason - he seems like a great person, off the field. We are running a football club though, not a sympathy refuge for players.
I was specifically referring to your comment "Does anybody really care? I mean, honestly?" and not to anything else you discussed. I think you could have reworded your comments.
That comment you made appaears very harsh given that the topic of this thread is 'Laycock's 2009 season over'. Regardless of what he has done prior to 2009, that was a very unfair statement to make.
No matter who the player is, having your whole season ruined by injury is awful and I would think 99% of people would care, no matter what team you support. The fact that pretty much everyone in this thread have made comments hoping for Laycock to get better and come back fit in 2010 supports this. These comments have been made based on what the topic is about, and nothing to do about his play before this year.
I ask you though, what do you think of Laycock's 2009 season being over? How do you feel knowing one of the players on the team you support has had their whole season ruined by injury?
It is a blow becasue if he could ever get his body right he would live up to expectations. The trouble is he is continually injured.
He played most of 2008 with an injury and has had over 20 operations on various parts of the body in the 7 years he has been with us.
I am not putting any great hope in him coming good and its not becasue i don't think he can't play, he can play. The problem is i don't see him ever getting over the continual injury problems.
It is a blow becasue if he could ever get his body right he would live up to expectations. The trouble is he is continually injured.
He played most of 2008 with an injury and has had over 20 operations on various parts of the body in the 7 years he has been with us.
I am not putting any great hope in him coming good and its not becasue i don't think he can't play, he can play. The problem is i don't see him ever getting over the continual injury problems.
Yeah. It sucks. :(