View Full Version : UFC 100 - Mir v Lesnar II
GoGoGadget
29 Jun 2009, 18:55
Main card
Heavyweight Championship bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.pngChampion Brock Lesnar vs. Interim Champion http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.pngFrank Mir - I think this fight will go one of two ways, either Mir by knockout or sub, or Lesnar by TKO or decision. I'll take Lesnar by TKO.
Welterweight Championship bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg/22px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.pngChampion Georges St-Pierre vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Thiago Alves - I dont understand the hype around Alves, he hasn't made weight in his last two fights at 170 and obviously has to if he wants to fight for the title, so will he gas easily? Ok, he beat Koscheck by decision but other than that, an over the hill Matt Hughes and Karo Parisyan? Not the sort of form that I think is going to be able to compete with GSP. GSP by decision.
Welterweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jon Fitch vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Paulo Thiago- Loved the way Thiago put Koscheck to sleep, hopefully he does the same to Fitch who is nothing more than a gatekeeper for prospective GSP opponents. Thiago via KO.
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Dan Henderson vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png Michael Bisping - I love Bisping and his hard nut pommy attitude. He is on the way up while Hendo is unfortunately on the way down. Taking Bisping via TKO but after the Franklin fight, it wouldnt surprise me if Hendo won either.
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Alan Belcher - Two excellent submission guys. If Belcher can keep the fight standing I think he will have the advantage. If he initiates a clinch, watch for Akiyama to drop him on his head. Interesting fight, Belcher by TKO.
Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Mark Coleman vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Stephan Bonnar - Wicked fight and really looking forward to this one. Bonner was smashed by Jones in his last fight and I expect him to deal with coleman in dramatic fashion. Bonner by KO.
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Mac Danzig vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jim Miller - Despite losing to Mayard at 96, Millers record is pretty good and thats good enough for me to take him by submission.
Light Heavyweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jon Jones vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jake O'Brien - Pumped to see Jones again after his last two fights. O'Brien has only been stopped by Valasquez and Arlovski. Dunno why this didnt make the main card?? Im taking Jones by TKO, providing he doesnt gas out.
Welterweight bout:Dong Hyun Kim vs.TJ Grant - I'll take the stun gun by submission but I dont really care to be honest.
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs.Tom Lawlor - Can't stand either of these clowns. I hope for a double knockout.
Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty - Again, dont care. Grice by decision.
On a side note, I am PUMPED for this card.
RobbyRoy
29 Jun 2009, 23:04
Heavyweight Championship bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.pngChampion Brock Lesnar vs. Interim Champion http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.pngFrank Mir - Lesnar strikes me as the type of guy who just becomes awesome at everything he puts his time into and I think after what's now been a fair bit of training, he should be ready to avoid submissions. I'm expecting a big KO standing, and anything else will disappoint me :)
Welterweight Championship bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cf/Flag_of_Canada.svg/22px-Flag_of_Canada.svg.pngChampion Georges St-Pierrehttp://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Thiago Alves - vs. St Pierre to take Alves down and hopefully finish him but more likely decision.
Welterweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jon Fitch vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/0/05/Flag_of_Brazil.svg/22px-Flag_of_Brazil.svg.png Paulo Thiago- On paper, this is all Fitch. Besides GSP, Fitch has handled pretty much everyone else in the division. A Thiago KO would help the card though, because as it is, he doesn't belong IMO.
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Dan Henderson vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/ae/Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png Michael Bisping - I have no idea. Henderson is getting old but I don't want to count him out. I'll take the easy road and say Bisping wins a split decision.
Middleweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9e/Flag_of_Japan.svg/22px-Flag_of_Japan.svg.png Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Alan Belcher - Belcher ruined the UFC's plans last time round against Kang, but I'm thinking Akiyama will be able to get this to the ground and win a decision.
Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Mark Coleman vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Stephan Bonnar - I agree that Bonnar will stop Coleman.
Lightweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Mac Danzig vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jim Miller - Tough one. Miller looks the goods and Danzig never fights to his potential. No result would surprise me but I'll go Danzig submission.
Light Heavyweight bout: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jon Jones vs. http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a4/Flag_of_the_United_States.svg/22px-Flag_of_the_United_States.svg.png Jake O'Brien - Hopefully Jones in dramatic fashion.
Welterweight bout: Dong Hyun Kim vs.TJ Grant - Stoppage 2nd.
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs.Tom Lawlor - Lawler for the upset, KO 1st.
Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty - Meh
I think I'm the only person in the world who doesn't think this is a great card. Any other time and I'd rate it, but it's UFC 100 for god's sake. I'm probably just getting too greedy.
Heavyweight Championship bout: Champion Brock Lesnar vs. Interim Champion Frank Mir - Lesnar will take this I think. Don't really like the guy yet, but his size and strength are formidable, and Mir's heart and ability to win is questionable if he starts to take punishment. I expect Lesnar to steamroll him. I would like to see Mir win, but Lesnar is the new breed of massive AND athletic HW. Lesnar by size, not skill.
Welterweight Championship bout: Champion Georges St-Pierre vs Thiago Alves - I usually put an upset tip in and this is where it lies. Over 5 rounds I think Alves who has got his cycling - sorry weight cutting - down to a fine art will be good enough standing to expose GSP's weakest spot. I guess it depends where the fight goes. If GSP can get it down and keep it down, he wins, if more of the fight is standing, I'd take Alves.
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago- Fitch easily. Thaigo was lucky to get past Koscheck, theres no way he's doing that twice in a row.
Middleweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - Henderson though it will be a close fight. Decision either way I'd say, hopefully not a dodgy one.
Middleweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher - Belcher the partypooper. Kang was dominating him, yet pulled the sub out. Will it happen to Sexyama? No. Akiyama by sub or GnP.
Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout: Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar - I'd love the old timer Coleman to win, but Coleman would do well not to die of exhaustion in the cage.
Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller - Taking Miller with this. Danzig is probably better suited at 145. Danzig is good, but Miller is just a little better.
Light Heavyweight bout: Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien - Jones is the fan favourite for sure, but O'Brien is also a good wrestler and this could be an upset. Bones by decision.
Welterweight bout: Dong Hyun Kim vs.TJ Grant - Close fight, both a very good. Impressed with TJ's debut vs Chonan but I think Kim will be too much for him.
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs.Tom Lawlor - Dolloway unfortunately.
Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty - Grice probably. Both aren't much chop and Gugerty doesn't do well against decent wrestlers.
I did this earlier today then accidently hit refresh, so this one will be much shorter and filled with spelling mistakes.
Heavyweight Championship bout: Champion Brock Lesnar vs. Interim Champion Frank Mir - **** Chestnar will tear Mir a new arse this time round.
Welterweight Championship bout: Champion Georges St-Pierre vs Thiago Alves- GSP, magnum your crazy
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago- Fitch easily.
Middleweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - He might be old but Bisping is no anderson silva.
Middleweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher - Just becasue
Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout: Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar - Coleman will be taken out of the ring in a body bag. The question here ism't why Joe Silva and Dana White keep putting him on cards, but who the **** at the NSAC keeps giving him a medical clearance? Cos I want that dude to write all my perscriptions.
Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller - danzig takes fighting too lightly. He thinks he is better than he is and I don't think he works hard enough.
Light Heavyweight bout: Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien - The Matrian Manhunter is quickly becoming my favorite fighter. Early stoppage.
Welterweight bout: Dong Hyun Kim vs.TJ Grant - Becasue
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs.Tom Lawlor - Peruvian Knecktie FTW
Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty - Agree with Mag. Could have done better, but it is just the undercard.
Don't get me wrong, I still think GSP will probably win, but if there was an outside bet, I'd take Alves. He finished Hughes faster than GSP did, finished Karo, and put a beating on Kos more than GSP did (granted it was short notice for Kos). Most importantly though hes better than GSP standing and I can't remember the last time GSP faced a half decent striker. The last time he stood with anyone with heavy hands was Serra and he got TKO'd. *IF* Alves can keep it standing long enough he's got a shot.
If it goes past round 2 though, I'm guessing GSP will take it. If GSP totally destroys Alves he takes the #1 p4p over Fedor in my opinion.
Lesnar
GSP
Fitch
Bisping
Akiyama
Bonnar
Danzig
Jones
T.J
Dolloway
Grice
RobbyRoy
30 Jun 2009, 22:12
Don't get me wrong, I still think GSP will probably win, but if there was an outside bet, I'd take Alves. He finished Hughes faster than GSP did, finished Karo, and put a beating on Kos more than GSP did (granted it was short notice for Kos). Most importantly though hes better than GSP standing and I can't remember the last time GSP faced a half decent striker. The last time he stood with anyone with heavy hands was Serra and he got TKO'd. *IF* Alves can keep it standing long enough he's got a shot.
If it goes past round 2 though, I'm guessing GSP will take it. If GSP totally destroys Alves he takes the #1 p4p over Fedor in my opinion.
The thing for me is, GSP is only young and he's getting better and better. His wrestling is just ridiculous and I think he'll be all over Alves from the start.
Don't get me wrong, I still think GSP will probably win, but if there was an outside bet, I'd take Alves. He finished Hughes faster than GSP did, finished Karo, and put a beating on Kos more than GSP did (granted it was short notice for Kos). Most importantly though hes better than GSP standing and I can't remember the last time GSP faced a half decent striker. The last time he stood with anyone with heavy hands was Serra and he got TKO'd. *IF* Alves can keep it standing long enough he's got a shot.
If it goes past round 2 though, I'm guessing GSP will take it. If GSP totally destroys Alves he takes the #1 p4p over Fedor in my opinion.
You know even though we have had this conversation in person, actually reading it has finally made it sink in. I think you might be onto something here. I'm still going with GSP because the dude has brains.
GoGoGadget
1 Jul 2009, 18:11
Don't get me wrong, I still think GSP will probably win, but if there was an outside bet, I'd take Alves. He finished Hughes faster than GSP did, finished Karo, and put a beating on Kos more than GSP did (granted it was short notice for Kos). Most importantly though hes better than GSP standing and I can't remember the last time GSP faced a half decent striker. The last time he stood with anyone with heavy hands was Serra and he got TKO'd. *IF* Alves can keep it standing long enough he's got a shot.
If it goes past round 2 though, I'm guessing GSP will take it. If GSP totally destroys Alves he takes the #1 p4p over Fedor in my opinion.
The last time Serra and GSP fought, Serra was the one who got TKO'd..
Anderson Silva might disagree with you there mate ;) If he beats Forrest, I would think he would be RIGHT up there.. I think Machida will put a very good case forward if Rampage and co. don't actually connect.. haha..
The last time Serra and GSP fought, Serra was the one who got TKO'd..
Anderson Silva might disagree with you there mate ;) If he beats Forrest, I would think he would be RIGHT up there.. I think Machida will put a very good case forward if Rampage and co. don't actually connect.. haha..
haha If Is the key word, Lyoto Is the least hit fighter in MMA.
haha If Is the key word, Lyoto Is the least hit fighter in MMA.
He's been hit?:confused::confused:;)
haha If Is the key word, Lyoto Is the least hit fighter in MMA.
Actually I believe that honor goes to Fedor. He has the least strikes absorbed per minute at 0.58, Machida is 0.64. Pretty impressive none the less.
I think that stat was taken prior to their latest fights though.
The last time Serra and GSP fought, Serra was the one who got TKO'd..
Yeah, I did say stood with, last time GSP fought Serra, you'll notice he immediately took him down :)
Byron_Clanger
4 Jul 2009, 00:15
hopefully brocks learnt his lesson from the first time he faced frankie, hes got more on the line this time around
Captain Crawf
5 Jul 2009, 18:35
Pumped for this, can't see Lesnar giving Mir an easy submission again, and that's the only way Mir can beat him in my opinion.
Main card
Heavyweight Championship bout: Champion Brock Lesnar vs. Interim Champion Frank Mir - either Mir is really arrogant or he's scared because he's been talking an insane amount of crap in the last few weeks, Lesnar's going to bulldoze through him this time, TKO in the first
Welterweight Championship bout: Champion Georges St-Pierre vs Thiago Alves - hard to go against GSP but Alves is easily the most dangerous striker he's came up against, Thiago's got the first two rounds to try and stop GSP because after that he's not going to have the strength to stuff the takedowns or handle GSP's riddum
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago - should get a chance to see what Thiago's BJJ off his back is like here because Fitch hasn't fallen in love with his fists like Kos, Fitch either by decision or TKO in the second
Middleweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - depends if Bisping can avoid Hendo's clinch, if Dan puts Bisping on his back he'll be in trouble but if the fight remains standing I like Bisping to pick apart Hendo with more technical striking and avoid the big right hand en route to a decision
Middleweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher - tough to call, Akiyama looked really flat in his two DREAM fights last year while Belcher can look horrible on his day as well, it's easy to forget that Kang was all over him before getting caught too, going with a Sexyama TKO here
Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout: Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar - liking Coleman to grind out a decision here because what's Bonnar going to do to him? He won't knock him out, he won't be able to stop the takedown and his subs aren't good enough to catch the Hammer, Coleman will be sucking it in badly though by the third round and that's Bonnar's chance to get on top of him and try and stop him
Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller - going with Miller by sub, Danzig won't be a top fighter until he starts to eat a few cows
Light Heavyweight bout: Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien - Jones for sure, won't be easy though as O'Brien is pretty tough
Welterweight bout: Dong Hyun Kim vs TJ Grant - haven't seen the fight against Chonan but from what I read Grant was pretty lucky to get the decision, Stun Gun is better than Chonan these days so he should pick up the decision
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs.Tom Lawlor - CB wins by submission and by being the bigger nob
Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty - not sure, haven't seen Gugerty before and have seen very little of Grice
Not a fan of relying on the streams as the few times I've tried using them they'll drop out at the worst of times so I'll be living in a cave on Sunday afternoon until a torrent is released. Surely they at least could have worked out a way to put this on one of the Adults Only porn channels or something.
Ellis2WeightsRoom
7 Jul 2009, 19:28
Bisping is at $3+ on Betfair...
Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about UFC, but this seems to me to be excellent value?
Would like some % on what people think Bisping's chances are?
Bisping is at $3+ on Betfair...
Admittedly I don't know a whole lot about UFC, but this seems to me to be excellent value?
Would like some % on what people think Bisping's chances are?
Hendo is a legend of the game, old school skilled, hard as a coffin nail and smart. But he's old. Bisping is considered one dimensional but he's definitely tough. Has a record of 17-1, pretty bloody good record for MMA, but Henderson is the first time he's put his toe in the deep end. He's an up and commer but a massive step up is required. I'd say he is at least up to the task in his own mind. Should train hard enough to be ready physically as well.
In a nutshell at over $3 in a two horse race I'm going to have a taste. But don't bet the farm.
$3 on Bisping is a good value bet. Could easily see it happening.
RobbyRoy
8 Jul 2009, 21:10
Yeh I'm on it. I wouldn't be surprised if Hendo won but Bisping is in prime position to knock him off right now.
Damon_3388
9 Jul 2009, 02:06
This might seem like a stupid question, but do they show the preliminary fights on the Pay-Per-View? Why I ask is because I've never ordered a UFC PPV before (although I've watched a fair amount of MMA over time), and I'm considering getting this one.
This might seem like a stupid question, but do they show the preliminary fights on the Pay-Per-View? Why I ask is because I've never ordered a UFC PPV before (although I've watched a fair amount of MMA over time), and I'm considering getting this one.
First off mate, no the Prelims are not shown unless there is like 4 KO's on the maincard and the fights don't fill the alloted time for the TV. Then they show 1 or sometimes 2 fights from the undercard to pad it out. And secondly. The F U C Kers at Fox are not showing UFC 100 until Monday becasue of the Argbeko vs Darchinyan fight is on at the same time. At least this time it's not that arsehole Andre Ruie.
RobbyRoy
9 Jul 2009, 23:36
This might seem like a stupid question, but do they show the preliminary fights on the Pay-Per-View? Why I ask is because I've never ordered a UFC PPV before (although I've watched a fair amount of MMA over time), and I'm considering getting this one.
I don't recommend buying this one because it's not live. I go on sherdog pretty much every day and have a few friends who will be discussing it, so maybe it's different for me, but I'd rather try and get a live feed.
Damon_3388
10 Jul 2009, 01:52
First off mate, no the Prelims are not shown unless there is like 4 KO's on the maincard and the fights don't fill the alloted time for the TV. Then they show 1 or sometimes 2 fights from the undercard to pad it out. And secondly. The F U C Kers at Fox are not showing UFC 100 until Monday becasue of the Argbeko vs Darchinyan fight is on at the same time. At least this time it's not that arsehole Andre Ruie.
I don't recommend buying this one because it's not live. I go on sherdog pretty much every day and have a few friends who will be discussing it, so maybe it's different for me, but I'd rather try and get a live feed.
Thanks for the info :thumbsu: I might just sit this one out and not order it, and if it turns out there were some good fights on the card, I might track down some footage on the net sometime.
Seems like a bit of a ripoff if they usually don't show any of the preliminary fights.
Vinnie Vegas
10 Jul 2009, 13:22
Am I the only one backing Mir to win this? I've still seen nothing to prove that Brock Lesnar is actually an MMA fighter at the moment, sure he beat up a 45 year old Randy Couture, but am I the only one that thinks that's not the ominous sign it's talked up as?
Mir by knockout or submission - I picture him knocking out Lesnar when he gets over-aggressive going for a takedown, or submitting him in a trap much like the first time. He's too damn smart and too talented to allow himself to be manhandled like many are predicting. Also, he doesn't have the size advantage to power out of submission attempts like he did with Couture.
I could see it, but I wouldn't consider it a certainty - I'm banking on Mir's experience, skillset and talent.
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs.Tom Lawlor - CB wins by submission and by being the bigger nob
Um... I don't think it's possible to be a bigger nob than Tom Lawlor. Even at worst.
I lost all respect for C.B. Dollaway on the Ultimate Fighter - Not because he got caught in an armbar in the most ridiculous of fashions by Amir Sadollah in the semis, but because in the Finale, he got caught in the exact same armbar, in the exact same situation, but even faster.
He earned a little respect by putting King of the Wankers (an even bigger nob than Tom Lawlor, I just realised) Jesse Taylor in a Peruvian Necktie though - Just on the basis of that, I'll tip him, considering that Tom Lawlor has never done anything I've liked.
Thanks for the info :thumbsu: I might just sit this one out and not order it, and if it turns out there were some good fights on the card, I might track down some footage on the net sometime.
Seems like a bit of a ripoff if they usually don't show any of the preliminary fights.
It's not a ripoff you get 5 fights at least and they're all usually good quality fights over 3hrs i think that's value.
This is probably the best UFC i've ever seen, I am ordering it and recording it onto my HDD and the boys are coming over next sunday for beers/barbie we are all staying off the net all next week so we dont see the results. This is a huge card it's worth it i reckon. Go Brock!
Drew's post is a bit of an exaggeration. It's pretty rare that you only see five fights on a card.
Number of fights aired on the recent UFC PPVs
UFC 99: 6
UFC 98: 8
UFC 97: 6
UFC 96: 9
UFC 95: 10
UFC 94: 5
UFC 93: 6
UFC 92: 8
UFC 91: 9
UFC 90: 6
RobbyRoy
10 Jul 2009, 22:59
Am I the only one backing Mir to win this? I've still seen nothing to prove that Brock Lesnar is actually an MMA fighter at the moment, sure he beat up a 45 year old Randy Couture, but am I the only one that thinks that's not the ominous sign it's talked up as?
For me, it's because of their last fight. Brock was all over Mir until the ref stepped in and saved Mir. The inexperience factor also came into play with the finishing submission.
Can't believe ****ing Fox aren't broadcasting it live. Unbelievable.
Crosby87
11 Jul 2009, 15:34
You'd have to think Lesnar would have spent months and months training on staying away from submission trouble. That was the only way he was losing that match the first time around.
I think Mir is going to have a world of trouble dealing with him this time.
Drew's post is a bit of an exaggeration. It's pretty rare that you only see five fights on a card.
Number of fights aired on the recent UFC PPVs
UFC 99: 6
UFC 98: 8
UFC 97: 6
UFC 96: 9
UFC 95: 10
UFC 94: 5
UFC 93: 6
UFC 92: 8
UFC 91: 9
UFC 90: 6
Yeah, I'm certainly saying it aint worth it! :thumbsu:. 3 hours of MMA is not to bad for a PPV. I know I'd be buying it if it was live.
cuzzy_bandwagon
11 Jul 2009, 17:21
i bought this ppv off yahoo and am going to hook it up to the telly and see how that goes.
i think i might be disappointed with my 3 wireless broadband. anyone done this????
Hawks1523
11 Jul 2009, 17:49
I'm tipping Mir. Lesnar will be over agressive again imo, Mir looks to have improved his standup so I don't see him being as dominated as he was by Brock the first time around. He'll know Brock is going to come out looking to knock his head off and be prepared for it, I don't think Brock has good enough submission defence.
do they usually replay the countdown shows on MainEvent, b/c I only caught the 2nd half or so on Fox Sports 1 last night.
Hawks1523
11 Jul 2009, 17:53
Just a question, what time does this start Australian time? I'll be hunting down a stream of it live, just need to know what time to wake up, not waiting until Monday morning. :thumbsd:
Barralupo
11 Jul 2009, 18:06
It's not a ripoff you get 5 fights at least and they're all usually good quality fights over 3hrs i think that's value.
This is probably the best UFC i've ever seen, I am ordering it and recording it onto my HDD and the boys are coming over next sunday for beers/barbie we are all staying off the net all next week so we dont see the results. This is a huge card it's worth it i reckon. Go Brock!
dont think u can record pay per views on the internal HDD
Vinnie Vegas
11 Jul 2009, 18:11
For me, it's because of their last fight. Brock was all over Mir until the ref stepped in and saved Mir. The inexperience factor also came into play with the finishing submission.
Yeah, but Mir was partially doing that on purpose - He was clearly setting a trap for Lesnar that he walked right into.
Hawks1523
11 Jul 2009, 18:28
http://sports.yahoo.com/mma/ufcppv/100
Thinking or just ordering it here since Foxtel are jewing us on this.
Countdown on the side, lol. :D
Mir vs Lesnar is gonna be like a dog (Lesnar) chasing a cat (Mir). ONLY chance in hell Mir has of winning is the same way he did last time. I cant even see it lasting one round in all honesty. The second Lesnar gets him on the floor its over.
Crimson Azure
11 Jul 2009, 19:08
Does anyone know where we can stream it?
Hawks1523
11 Jul 2009, 19:34
Does anyone know where we can stream it?
UFC.com or Yahoo.
If you mean without paying, justin.tv will probably have a few streams up.
Does anyone know where we can stream it?
UFC streams I find are taken down at record pace. Wake up early, get on myp2p.eu and open up as many streams as you can find and have as many options possible. Its what I normally do
TheTrav
11 Jul 2009, 20:11
You can usually end up finding a few that do not get taken down, but they end up choppy as hell because there are 8000 people viewing, and because it is UFC100 streams are going to be slow as f*ck, no matter how quick your internet connection is.
Barralupo
11 Jul 2009, 21:48
www.mmascraps.com has the fights up pretty much straight after they happen
Bit torrent is the way to go, no cutting out, lagging or getting shutdown. Its usually up within 3-4 hours
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 11:08
Might have a couple of streams
Hawks1523
12 Jul 2009, 11:13
How are they trav? One I've got is alright little laggy.
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 11:23
One seems ok, I am downloading TVU player, apparently has it going well.
Hawks1523
12 Jul 2009, 11:30
Let me know how it goes, if it's good pms pls. :D
jerry springer
12 Jul 2009, 11:49
pm please:D
this is the only other best option
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/ufc-100-live-play-by-play-18459
and in the meantime you can perve on the octagon girls
http://www.facebook.com/l.php?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ufc.com%2Fmulticast%2F&h=f5b4d1ab043ccc90c2486ef706c781b7
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 12:02
EL OH F*CKIN EL
Coleman won haha, I thought he would be leaving in a bodybag
Crimson Azure
12 Jul 2009, 12:18
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
Crimson Azure
12 Jul 2009, 13:01
Epic KO!
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 13:04
Looked dead, why keep circling to his right hand? that was always going to happen.
First two fights were nice.
jerry springer
12 Jul 2009, 13:14
The trav you are a star:thumbsu:
here comes GSP
d-mac3276
12 Jul 2009, 13:47
Ah fantastic Bisping got knocked the **** out
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 13:49
Lol 9 takedowns
jerry springer
12 Jul 2009, 13:54
St. Pierre tells trainer Greg Jackson that he pulled his groin. “I don’t care. This is where champions are born,” replied Jackson. “Hit him with your groin.”
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 13:56
Hahaha, so good, "Ok Mr St Pierre" Jackson is the most calm cornerperson to have.
jerry springer
12 Jul 2009, 14:12
lol,lesner refuses to touch gloves
Hawks1523
12 Jul 2009, 14:15
lol,lesner refuses to touch gloves
Haha, was never going to touch gloves really.
jerry springer
12 Jul 2009, 14:18
brock with the first
Mir got some nice knees in early in the 2nd
Hawks1523
12 Jul 2009, 14:19
Brock definately took the first.
Brock wins it.
jerry springer
12 Jul 2009, 14:21
and the up yours to the crowd:D
some massive hits in their,i dont know Mir is still awake
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 14:21
UFC's most hated lol
Hawks1523
12 Jul 2009, 14:22
Haha. Frank Mir wanted more after being smashed.
jerry springer
12 Jul 2009, 14:25
"i might even get on top of my wife tonight":D
jerry springer
12 Jul 2009, 14:27
The fans boo and Lesnar flicks off the fans and then eggs them on in his post-fight interview with Joe Rogan. He finishes to applause after a one-liner involving adult activity with his wife. The official time is 1:48 of round two.
http://www.sherdog.com/news/news/ufc-100-live-play-by-play-18459
mad_eagle
12 Jul 2009, 14:32
lol Brock needs to get off the roids. Such an angry prick!
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 15:51
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/20/1097626/1247367977823.gif
Lol at hendo kissing his fist before landing 2nd shot.
I remember when the WWE was in Perth. Brock was waiting for his limo (he had a limo drive him 500m to the arena) and some fan touched him on the shoulder and asked for a autograph. Brock shoved this 18 year oldd to the ground and started screaming in his face that no one touches him like that. Guards had to pull him off this skinny guy who was deadset shitting himself. It was that day I learnt the full meaning of roid rage
TheTrav
12 Jul 2009, 18:01
Lulz
http://www.fileden.com/files/2007/5/20/1097626/setzk2.gif
Mr Magoo
12 Jul 2009, 20:44
Lesnar must have thought he was still in the wwe today :thumbsu: :D
Heavyweight Championship bout: Brock Lesnar vs. Frank Mir - Mir. Lesnar may be getting better, but so too is Mir. His stand-up was awesome against Nogueira, and the longer the fight goes, the more likely he is to win. Mir by decision.
Welterweight Championship bout: Champion Georges St-Pierre vs Thiago Alves - This is possibly GSP's biggest challenge to date, going against the man with the best leg kicks in the UFC. But GSP has such awesome takedown ability that I think he can do to Alves what he's done to so many other fighters, grind out a points decision by getting his opponent on the mat. GSP by decision.
Welterweight bout: Jon Fitch vs. Paulo Thiago - Fitch by TKO. Too much quality for this guy.
Middleweight bout: Dan Henderson vs. Michael Bisping - They'll stand for three rounds and Hendo will win on points.
Middleweight bout: Yoshihiro Akiyama vs. Alan Belcher - Akiyama by sub or GnP.
Preliminary card
Light Heavyweight bout: Mark Coleman vs. Stephan Bonnar - Bonnar to hopefully end old man Coleman's career. Bonnar by TKO.
Lightweight bout: Mac Danzig vs. Jim Miller - Miller was disappointing in his last fight, so I'm tipping Danzig to sub him.
Light Heavyweight bout: Jon Jones vs. Jake O'Brien - The unorthodox and exciting "Bones" to continue his progress. Wins by KO.
Welterweight bout: Dong Hyun Kim vs.TJ Grant - Kim won't make the same mistake this time. Wins by decision.
Middleweight bout: C.B. Dollaway vs.Tom Lawlor - Dolloway unfortunately.
Lightweight bout: Matt Grice vs. Shannon Gugerty
Lynch takes a mark
13 Jul 2009, 12:00
Greg Jackson was awesome
"I don't care, hit hium with your groin"
caMoGFC
13 Jul 2009, 13:22
great card i thought
st pierre is a freak
Greg Jackson was awesome
"I don't care, hit hium with your groin"
Greg Jackson is the shit. The guy knows MMA like the pope knows catholicism.
Just watched the torrent, wasnt ****ing with the stream.
Dan, Just wow. What was I thinking Bisping would beat him, I should not have forgotten the Wandy fight. Dan V A.Silva - I hope Dan slaughters him.
GSP has dominated 170, needs to go to 185, Silva will destroy him though, Silva walks around at 205+ and Is technically as good If not better than GSP. Someone like Leites or Marquardt would be good If he wants a challenge.
Brocks the man, Hats of to Mir, But Brock stuck to the game plan and stifled any sub attempts Mir threw at him, good to have a character in the mix aswell. Surely Valsquez gets a shot at Brock next.
Vinnie Vegas
13 Jul 2009, 15:45
Brock Lesnar's just too strong. He holds guys down and then just machine guns those fists into them until they can't do anything.
He'll be tough for anyone to beat, but he'll have damn boring fights until he retires...
Lets hope Fedor can beat Brock.
Fedor is technically a much better fighter, in pretty much every area, but man, Brock is just a beast. After witnessing him ground and smash Mir, I am actually somewhat fearful for Fedor if the fight ever happened. When a guy is 25kg (of muscle) heavier than you come fight time, that's like Randy or Tito fighting BJ Penn, it's gotta make a huge difference. In any case, if Dana can manage to get Fedor in the UFC and hype this Good vs Evil, Russia vs USA, Respectful vs Brash, it will be the biggest MMA fight in history and sell a crazy amount of PPV's. Fedor's gotta get past Barnett for now though.
GSP was dominant, but it wasn't a blowout at all. Considering Alves time and time again got back to his feet without GSP doing that much damage to him on the ground, it was a very competitive fight. GSP is just TOO good at takedowns. It will take someone phenomenal at takedown defense or ubelieveable BJJ to sweep or submit him. I cant see anyone doing it, maybe a Jake Shields or a Nick Diaz perhaps. If Akiyama could get to 170 it might be interesting, but still even then, GSP is king.
Dan vs Bisping was just AWESOME. I literally lept out of the seat and punched the air when those punches destroyed Bisping.
Akiyama made a good debut. He is pretty small for MW, but a solid start which would be daunting. Belcher was game and it was a great fight. A nice addition to the roster having the sexy one on board. Would liked to have seen a couple of sweet judo throws though :)
Oh and WAR COLEMAN!!!!! Most people were thinking he was going to be taken out in a body bag, but I had faith. This is a big win for Coleman, but after watching the fight I still say he'll have a tough time going anywhere. I think he would be best used fighting "legends" in maybe Couture and Chuck (assuming he comes back). They would be much more interesting than Coleman vs up and comers.
Overall, UFC 100 was a good event, happy the stream only cut out for a few mins in total :) Screw you foxtel!
Fedor wont sign with the UFC, honestly he needs to get over it, Its not about the money, the dude would be sitting on fat amounts of cash.
If It does happen I hope brock smashes his head through the canvas, I also hope Barnett knocks him out, one can hope.
I don't know what's been more awesome to see, the idiots on the Sherdog boards getting pissy over Lesnar's arrogance after the fight or the few deluded pro wrestlers who believe that Lesnar winning proves that they're all tough and legit.
Fight itself was pretty uneventful until the finish but damn, Lesnar's ground and pound is just brutally powerful. If we can't get Fedor then bring on Lesnar vs the winner of Shane vs Cain.
GSP looks unstoppable at 170. Against somebody like Shields GSP would just light him up standing if Shields showed signs of outgrappling him. The only guy in the division who may match him as an athlete is Rumble Johnson, but he's at least a couple of years away from being rounded enough to hang with him and by that point GSP would be long gone from the division.
Can't believe Bisping kept circling straight into Hendo's right. I only tipped him because I thought he was a smarter fighter than that. His corner went right off at him after the first round for falling into the trap. The resulting knockout was insane though. Watching the UFC 100 greatest fights countdown during the week made me realise that I'd like to see Hendo rematches with Silva and Rampage soon.
Akiyama won 29-28 for me, Rogan and Goldie saying that Belcher was robbed was complete crap. Not sure if Akiyama's going to pose any serious challenges for the top level middleweights though.
Another grinding workmanlike win for Fitch but it left a pretty flat feeling to the end of the PPV since they had to fight last.
I called Coleman's win but it was more to do with Bonnar having even less to offer than the Hammer than any real belief in him. Had to love seeing CB get choked out in under a minute too.
Disappointing that the Buffer 360 didn't make it onto the broadcast.
The Lesnar fight went as expected. I'm not looking forward to seeing anyone fight him for a while. The man is a one dimensional blanket, striking will be his kryptonite.
GSP is quickly becoming #1 P4P. GOt to give props to Alves, he'll come back, he's still the top contender. Who else is there at 170? GSP said at the end he had not real desire to go to 185 which is a shame, but smart. As shown in this win. Gamplan FTW.
Good to see Bisping get KTFO. GIve Dan another shot at Anderson. Bisping has so much more work to do to even think of getting a title shot.
Jones is looking like a future 205 then open weight belt holder. Has the wrestling, athleticism, speed and knockout power.
Crosby87
13 Jul 2009, 19:29
I don't agree with Akiyama "robbing" Belcher. I thought Akiyama was ahead in the first two rounds; I think the eye damage may have misled a few people in the last round.
Henderson was so jakked for that fight there was no way he was losing it. Interesting to see where Bisping goes from here.
Alves was just outclassed, but he didn't fight badly at all. He just had no room to get anything going, and as much as he could get back to his feet, GSP would just take him down again. As much as we'd all love to see GSP at 185, I dont know if the desire is there judging from the post-match.
Brock fought very well. He clearly worked on his one great mistake from the first fight. As much as the crowd may have disliked it, he worked Mir over very well on the mat. And it seems as though that's how he'll win his matches, just get on you, take control, and pound you out.
A bit of class would have been nice, but he is how he is, I spose.
Crimson Azure
13 Jul 2009, 19:47
Can't believe Bisping kept circling straight into Hendo's right. I only tipped him because I thought he was a smarter fighter than that. His corner went right off at him after the first round for falling into the trap. The resulting knockout was insane though. Watching the UFC 100 greatest fights countdown during the week made me realise that I'd like to see Hendo rematches with Silva and Rampage soon.
Agreed he did exactly what Hendo wanted him to do, if you look at the final punch standing Hendo wasn't even looking it was just a hay maker working on the assumption the Bisping would go toward his right.
Didn't like that he smashed him when he clearly knew he was out cold, that to me lacked a little class & he came across as better than that during TUF.
Akiyama won 29-28 for me, Rogan and Goldie saying that Belcher was robbed was complete crap. Not sure if Akiyama's going to pose any serious challenges for the top level middleweights though.
Again I have to agree I thought that Rogan was just letting his bias for the US shine through.
Agreed he did exactly what Hendo wanted him to do, if you look at the final punch standing Hendo wasn't even looking it was just a hay maker working on the assumption the Bisping would go toward his right.
Didn't like that he smashed him when he clearly knew he was out cold, that to me lacked a little class & he came across as better than that during TUF.
Again I have to agree I thought that Rogan was just letting his bias for the US shine through.
Dans one of the most respectful fighters, always has been, he admitted he would never do that to anyone else, Bisping really pissed him off.
daicos21
13 Jul 2009, 21:12
Two types of fighter will be able to challenge Brock.
1) Obviously an equal or better quality wrestler.
2)A great striker who has a good enough sprawl to keep it standing or at least be able to get back to his feet.I'm thinking Coleman vs Maurice Smith or Kerr vs Igor.
GSP has just become too good.
Hendo exposed Bisping for what he really is. A desperate attempt from the UFC to find a local poster boy for their British expansion.Bisping though is not the one.Has no punching power and his wrestling attempts had Hendo literally laughing at him.As for the commentators and his coach wondering why he kept circling to his left,well things are easier said than done.If your game plan is to stick and move your opponent will try and cut of the ring or in this case the cage.When this happens inevitably you move the other way since backpedaling is an absolute no no.Also for a fighter in an Orthodox stance it is easier and more natural to push off his back foot and circle clockwise than to push off his leading left foot and move to his right.
Loved Coleman's win.He's been a favourite ever since i saw the Smashing machine( for anyone that hasn't seen it this doco is a must)
Fedor wont sign with the UFC, honestly he needs to get over it, Its not about the money, the dude would be sitting on fat amounts of cash.
If It does happen I hope brock smashes his head through the canvas, I also hope Barnett knocks him out, one can hope.
Whats with the Fedor hate?
Guy's the greatest Heavyweight of all time.
Were you watching MMA while PrideFC was around?
Anyway, also thought the Akiyama call was fine.. 29-28.. Rogan with his 'robbed' call was just pushing the obvious pro-UFC agenda.
Also thought nothing wrong with Dan's hit on bisping. He did the same to Wand. Dan's old school and that was just one for us old school fans :)
If you don't like that you mustn't have been watching MMA for long, go watch some of the classic MMA or some Pride. People get worked up over that 'overly brutal' stuff but that is part of the game and always has been and always should be. Its part and parcel of stepping into that cage. This is MMA not tiddlywinks. MMA is VIOLENT. :thumbsu:
Oh and Bisping will be just fine.
Barralupo
13 Jul 2009, 21:29
correct me if im wrong but hendo is going to be in a bit of sh*t for saying he knew bisping was out before he landed the last punch.
I love Lesnar, love the arrogance!!!
red+black
13 Jul 2009, 22:02
Just watched the PPV.
I was cowering just waiting for Hendo to connect with one, it was just a matter of time. And GSP is doing a bit easy these days, he must get bored. Enjoyed the Lesnar show, he's great for the sport.
Special mention to Holly Madison. Good work girl!
Crimson Azure
13 Jul 2009, 22:35
Dans one of the most respectful fighters, always has been, he admitted he would never do that to anyone else, Bisping really pissed him off.
I know & I like Hendo but he had a choice & choose to smash him still.
not a lot of class (I expected more) & I hoped he would show more or at least he would have said I didn't realise.
Maybe its just me but I couldn't do anything to someone who does not have the ability to fight back.
Like kicking your pet dog because you know he wont bite you back.
I hope these two have a rematch, imagine the build up after this.
Crimson Azure
13 Jul 2009, 22:47
If you don't like that you mustn't have been watching MMA for long, go watch some of the classic MMA or some Pride. People get worked up over that 'overly brutal' stuff but that is part of the game and always has been and always should be. Its part and parcel of stepping into that cage. This is MMA not tiddlywinks. MMA is VIOLENT.
Maybe I haven't watched it since the early days, just the last six years or so but I didn't agree with the hair pulling, nut kicking/punching/kneeing (a big part of early UFC), head butting, fish hooking & no gloves. Even two fighters decided not to pull hair as a respect for each other.
They wanted to become a sport with some respect & made the needed changes, so why should the old school continue?
KungFooSing
13 Jul 2009, 22:57
Also just watched the PPV.
Lesnar is a roid freak redneck knob. Boring as fk, but effective. Can't say I'll be rushing out to pay for the next Lesnar fight. Really felt for Frank, the dude has done it tough, and as a fighter, hes a marvellous bjj exponent. His humbleness in defeat was good to see too.
Hendos hit on Bisping was amazing, I'm a bit of a Bisping fan (like to see more that just Seppos and Brazilians), I like his attitude, its no different to 70% of the other fighters. Can't really see why Hendo gave him that second shot on the deck, was Bisping that bad? Oh well, hope he comes back better for it. Good on Hendo though, hes a superstar.
GSP, what can you say, was that fight gonna end up any other way? Alves is a tough dude, but GSP is a freak.
Aikyama looked good, takes a punch very well and is ultra composed. A GSP match up if he ever followed the US weight cutting regime? He looks more suited to 180lb.
Fitch and Thiago. Meh. Nearly fell asleep. Did they throw any punches?
Looking forward to 101 now. Silva v Forrest. Shame its only 3 rounds.
Whats with the Fedor hate?
Guy's the greatest Heavyweight of all time.
Were you watching MMA while PrideFC was around?
Anyway, also thought the Akiyama call was fine.. 29-28.. Rogan with his 'robbed' call was just pushing the obvious pro-UFC agenda.
Also thought nothing wrong with Dan's hit on bisping. He did the same to Wand. Dan's old school and that was just one for us old school fans :)
If you don't like that you mustn't have been watching MMA for long, go watch some of the classic MMA or some Pride. People get worked up over that 'overly brutal' stuff but that is part of the game and always has been and always should be. Its part and parcel of stepping into that cage. This is MMA not tiddlywinks. MMA is VIOLENT. :thumbsu:
Oh and Bisping will be just fine.
I respect Fedor, just dont ride his jock. I want the under dog to win, Oh and im still pissed the Couture Fedor bout never went ahead.
Ive been a fight fan since the 80s and was watching MMA before pride, the first UFC I seen was an old VHS cassette in 96 I think it was, shit was rare back then, It was the event where Frye beat Tank Abbot, Ken Shamrock was on the card too.
Maybe I haven't watched it since the early days, just the last six years or so but I didn't agree with the hair pulling, nut kicking/punching/kneeing (a big part of early UFC), head butting, fish hooking & no gloves. Even two fighters decided not to pull hair as a respect for each other.
They wanted to become a sport with some respect & made the needed changes, so why should the old school continue?
Agree with that, hair pulling, groin shots, raking the eyes, etc are legitimate fouls and have been since early UFC's aside from copping a fine. Headbutting is pretty old school, but wouldn't care if that came back :) That's also been banned since UFC 15.
But what I'm mainly trying to get across is that Dan didn't do anything to show that he's classless or disrespectful. He basically just fought a bit more 'old school' but putting Bisping away. Prior to 2005ish, this probably wouldn't have raised anyones eyebrows. Dan *IS* a classy and nice guy, he just got a little emotional because Bisping is such a little bitch (as he put it).
I guess with the sanitising of the sport over recent years, he's starting to look bad in the eyes of the more recent fans who are not used to such overt "brutality" if you will. Myself though, am not fazed by these actions as it has been a staple of MMA since I started watching this stuff back in 1997. That was just what you did to make sure your opponent was finished. Dan pretty much just did that. Rampage did the same to Wand, and plenty of others over the course of MMA have done the same.
It wasn't like Gomi over Azeredo or Sokodjou over Norte or even Babalu vs Heath where the ref has told him to stop and they've kept going, that is a different kettle of fish.
Now with this 'exposure' people are hot to jump in and automatically defend MMA. Personally I dont care if the sport is 'mainstream' - I'd actually prefer it not to be, the sport is watered down enough. The last shot was probably regrettable yes, but they shouldn't ban it or fine Dan. It's part of the sport. You fight until the ref stops you. If they change that, then again, it's another slip away from the MMA I love.
So dont look too harshly on Dan, guy's a legend, he's just old school with a more old school mindset.
Just my 2c
I respect Fedor, just dont ride his jock. I want the under dog to win, Oh and im still pissed the Couture Fedor bout never went ahead.
Fair enough. Just the way you wrote it, it looked like you really disliked him! There still is a fair chance that Fedor ends up in the UFC, and then there might be a chance for him to fight couture. It would be a great fight, but I'd bet on Fedor. I certainly prefer Fedor over Brock though. Brock is the anti-Fedor.
Ive been a fight fan since the 80s and was watching MMA before pride, the first UFC I seen was an old VHS cassette in 96 I think it was, shit was rare back then, It was the event where Frye beat Tank Abbot, Ken Shamrock was on the card too.
Yep, those were the days. First time I watched was around the same time and were dubbed copies of UFC 1-5 from a mate I knew who was doing BJJ. I remember showing my mates (drew_j was one of them) and this little scrawny guy was 'cheating' by putting these guys on the mat and choking them! Then it was a while, but in the late 90's UFC 6-14ish and the ultimate ultimate events came out in our local video shop, which was crazy as there were few video shops who had them. Good times.
Yup we used to think the same coming from a boxing backround and seeing guys like gracie submit someone like the size of severn, I didnt know mch about BJJ back then, but after you get to know it you appreciate it, I still prefer standup, but I like the ground game aswell.
Crimson Azure
14 Jul 2009, 11:34
Just my 2c
Fair points, well reasoned.
:thumbsu:
Finally got around to watching this.
That Bisping knockout was predictable, clinical, yet oh so brutal. Cannot recall anyone being hit that hard after they have already been knocked out either. Seen plenty of blokes do it but not quite as measured, powerful, and accurate as Hendo's second serving of chin music (IMO harder than the first punch, which is saying something).
Lesnar makes me laugh with his thin skin and roid rage. Looks like he is playing to a heel script in the WWE still (especially with Sable at his side), but the guy really is that crazy. The way he had the crowd booing made me laugh.
The man is a complete animal though and any heavyweight who steps into the ring with him over the next 5 years is risking getting seriously hurt IMO. He is very similar in style to Mark Kerr, except with a more lethal right hand. Don't think Mir will be requesting a rematch any time soon.
GSP is unbeatable at 170, head and shoulders ahead of anybody else in that division. The fight wasn't stopped yet probably was still the most comprehensive win on a night of one sided contests. Would love to see him go to 185 and take on Silva, but I don't think this will happen.
The yanks carrying on about the Akiyama decision pissed me off, there was no way Belcher won that fight in my eyes.
Peter Bellend
15 Jul 2009, 18:19
That Bisping knockout was predictable, clinical, yet oh so brutal. Cannot recall anyone being hit that hard after they have already been knocked out either. Seen plenty of blokes do it but not quite as measured, powerful, and accurate as Hendo's second serving of chin music (IMO harder than the first punch, which is saying something).
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The "Count" knockout was great on two levels.
First on a personal level, it was nice to see "the Count" get his switch flicked. The guy is a tosser and was a complete dick on TUF.
Secondly, as a spectacle, it was really great to see a genuine launching punch" (the Henderson punch that followed the knockdown) connect so cleanly with another human beings face. So often in MMA you see people attempt that punch only to miss and hit the floor or have their punch deflected by their opponent. It was great to see the punch hit Bisping so cleanly. Imagine the power that would have been behind that punch - you basically had all of henderson weight coming through the line of the punch. Great stuff.