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Loved his work so far this World cup. Best I have seen him play in years.
The darling of the dressing room.
NICK THE PIE MAN
25 Feb 2003, 15:29
He has been a pleasure to watch this World Cup.
Should get us home off his own bat.
GoEagles
26 Feb 2003, 01:00
I reckon Bevan should help Bichel out with the 12th man duties. Problem with Bevan is, he can't bowl these days and definately isn't suited to an opening role or in the top 4.
He'll bat first drop against Namibia I reckon.
Kenny_01
26 Feb 2003, 02:13
What's with the Bevan bashing. Bevan is a shoe in for our side, and will be for years to come. It doesn't matter if half of you don't agree with me, the selectors do and that's all that matters.
dr nick
26 Feb 2003, 11:31
Originally posted by Kenny_01
What's with the Bevan bashing. Bevan is a shoe in for our side, and will be for years to come. It doesn't matter if half of you don't agree with me, the selectors do and that's all that matters.
be careful... we dont know if he'll be the victim of "anti-bevan hysteria". that could change the selectors POV.
Originally posted by kenny_01
What's with the Bevan bashing. Bevan is a shoe in for our side, and will be for years to come. It doesn't matter if half of you don't agree with me, the selectors do and that's all that matters.
they might like him at the moment but that means nothing when it comes to selection. All it takes is a dummy spit or too and your international career is over. Just ask Stuart MacGill cause his is.
ScouseCat
26 Feb 2003, 13:15
Originally posted by Kenny_01
What's with the Bevan bashing. Bevan is a shoe in for our side, and will be for years to come. It doesn't matter if half of you don't agree with me, the selectors do and that's all that matters.
I agree with you Kenny... Michael Bevan is a player who consistantly performs when the team is under pressure, either by pacing the innings or guiding the team home to victory in a run chase.
I would have him in my best team anyday!!
Originally posted by ScouseCat
I agree with you Kenny... Michael Bevan is a player who consistantly performs when the team is under pressure, either by pacing the innings or guiding the team home to victory in a run chase.
I would have him in my best team anyday!!
We were fortunate that he didn't play agaist Pakistan instead of Symonds.
If Bev had of come in at 4/86 we would have been lucky to get 220 and would have lost.
Kenny_01
26 Feb 2003, 14:31
Originally posted by RIPPER_46
We were fortunate that he didn't play agaist Pakistan instead of Symonds.
If Bev had of come in at 4/86 we would have been lucky to get 220 and would have lost.
Ummm, they both have different roles?
Normally, Symonds would have got out and we would have scored 150. Bevan would have atleast steered us to 220 more often than not.
Anyway, they are both in the current squad so it doesn't matter.
Originally posted by Port01
Loved his work so far this World cup. Best I have seen him play in years.
The darling of the dressing room.
He's the new Scott Muller of the Australian team.He can't bat and can't bowl [because he hasn't had a chance :p ]
dr nick
26 Feb 2003, 22:42
i liked one i saw in the SMH.
can't bowl, cant throw..... for 12 months.
GoEagles
27 Feb 2003, 23:33
Originally posted by DaveW
He'll bat first drop against Namibia I reckon.
Good prediction! Still, it was bleeding obvious Ponting wanted Bevan to have a bat against Namibia and when Gilchrist went out early it was a good a time as any.
ScouseCat
3 Mar 2003, 00:56
Originally posted by ScouseCat
I agree with you Kenny... Michael Bevan is a player who consistantly performs when the team is under pressure, either by pacing the innings or guiding the team home to victory in a run chase.
I would have him in my best team anyday!!
Michael Bevan makes 74 not out under extreme pressure to guide Australia to victory against England, I rest my case. :D
Kenny_01
3 Mar 2003, 01:14
Originally posted by ScouseCat
Michael Bevan makes 74 not out under extreme pressure to guide Australia to victory against England, I rest my case. :D
And my case too :)
well done bev. he went into today a played the kind of innings that allot of people have been criticising.
EagleBlue
3 Mar 2003, 01:25
That innings against Namibia must have done him the world of good ;)
Nasser, I wonder how many scars there are now !!!!! :D
And BTW great decision to bowl the 49th over with Anderson instead of Caddick. Did I miss something ???? Was Caddick injured or did Nasser have another "Brisbane Brain Meltdown"
Originally posted by ScouseCat
Michael Bevan makes 74 not out under extreme pressure to guide Australia to victory against England, I rest my case. :D
What about Bichel's innings?
If Bevan wasn't so slow to get going Australia would never have been in the situation they were. He gets us into the situation, Bichel gets us out, but Bevan's the hero, I just don't get it. :confused:
P0RT P0WER
3 Mar 2003, 02:06
Originally posted by Catman
What about Bichel's innings?
If Bevan wasn't so slow to get going Australia would never have been in the situation they were. He gets us into the situation, Bichel gets us out, but Bevan's the hero, I just don't get it. :confused:
That is a pathetic post, u r saying if it wasn't for Bevan we would of won consistenly? Bichels knock was great but Bevans knock was one of the most controlled and settled knocks u can expect from a batsman. Not once did the run rate get out of control, the highest it became was 7 an over at the start of the 49th over, the pitch was shocking late in the afternoon and the ball was cutting away hugely making batting conditions extremely difficult.
Originally posted by P0RT P0WER
That is a pathetic post, u r saying if it wasn't for Bevan we would of won consistenly? Bichels knock was great but Bevans knock was one of the most controlled and settled knocks u can expect from a batsman. Not once did the run rate get out of control, the highest it became was 7 an over at the start of the 49th over, the pitch was shocking late in the afternoon and the ball was cutting away hugely making batting conditions extremely difficult.
Consistenly???? WTF?
If the pitch was so bad then how did Bichel make 34 of just 36 balls?
P0RT P0WER
3 Mar 2003, 02:19
Originally posted by Catman
Consistenly???? WTF?
If the pitch was so bad then how did Bichel make 34 of just 36 balls?
Maybe because Bichel is a good batsman, one minute u quote him as having a great innings then u critiscize his batting questioning how he made 34 off 36 balls.
????????:rolleyes:
You cannot possibly persist in critising Bevan and expect to have any credibility. you are just trying to save face. He is a legend and a hero and rest assured without him we would have lost today. end of argument
Originally posted by P0RT P0WER
Maybe because Bichel is a good batsman, one minute u quote him as having a great innings then u critiscize his batting questioning how he made 34 off 36 balls.
????????:rolleyes:
OMG? Hello anyone home?
So Bevan is a bad batsman then because he scored 74 off 126? Going on your logic then he is because Bic scored 34 off 36.
Since when did I question Bichel's batting? You said the pitch was a shocker, saying it was tough to bat on. I then questioned that theory by asking how Bichel could make 34 off 36 if the pitch was so bad.
You are confusing yourself, I think it's time you went to bed.
Originally posted by spring6
You cannot possibly persist in critising Bevan and expect to have any credibility. you are just trying to save face. He is a legend and a hero and rest assured without him we would have lost today. end of argument
Am I asking for credibility? It's a free world, if people don't like my opinions then fine, you can't expect everyone to agree with you.
All I said was that people go ga-ga when Bevan is still in when we win and that he was getting most of the plaudits when Andrew Bichel deserves just as much praise.
P0RT P0WER
3 Mar 2003, 02:35
Originally posted by Catman
OMG? Hello anyone home?
So Bevan is a bad batsman then because he scored 74 off 126? Going on your logic then he is because Bic scored 34 off 36.
Since when did I question Bichel's batting? You said the pitch was a shocker, saying it was tough to bat on. I then questioned that theory by asking how Bichel could make 34 off 36 if the pitch was so bad.
You are confusing yourself, I think it's time you went to bed.
Take your hand off it. I only praised Bevan and never bagged Bevan, if u read your post u will see that u questioned how did Bichel make 34 off 36 if the pitch was bad, i only replied by saying he is a good batsman. Stop twisting things to make ur pathetic posts arguable. The only way i am confusing myself is replying to the **** that comes out of your mouth.
Kenny_01
3 Mar 2003, 02:38
If we didn't have Bevan in the side Catman, would we have won? Bevan didn't get out after facing so many balls; that says a lot. Bichel's innings was great at the end and we probably wouldn't have won without him either but Bevan engineered it and kept to his game plan even though wickets were falling all around him.
Originally posted by Kenny_01
If we didn't have Bevan in the side Catman, would we have won?
Totally hypothetical. To many variables to consider.
Fair to say, No, Australia wouldn't have won, but you would never be able to tell.
Originally posted by P0RT P0WER
Take your hand off it. I only praised Bevan and never bagged Bevan, if u read your post u will see that u questioned how did Bichel make 34 off 36 if the pitch was bad, i only replied by saying he is a good batsman. Stop twisting things to make ur pathetic posts arguable. The only way i am confusing myself is replying to the **** that comes out of your mouth.
Already replied to similar sort of dribble, but will do it again in the slim hope it might get through to you.
You said Bevan's innings was even better because of our a difficult pitch which made batting hard. But Bichel made 34 off 36. So how bad was the pitch?
You were trying to glorify Bevan's innings even more but have only just ended up digging yourself into a hole.
Kenny_01
3 Mar 2003, 02:54
Originally posted by Catman
Already replied to similar sort of dribble, but will do it again in the slim hope it might get through to you.
You said Bevan's innings was even better because of our a difficult pitch which made batting hard. But Bichel made 34 off 36. So how bad was the pitch?
You were trying to glorify Bevan's innings even more but have only just ended up digging yourself into a hole.
Bichel did hit a 6 and 4 though at the end which improved his S/R immensely. Not that I am trying to put down his performance at all because it was exceptional but Bevan was the true hero of the run chase. How often did you see Bevan play and miss? He didn't give England a single chance at all to get him out. That is what counted.
Great effort from both of them.
Just admit you were wrong, we will all forgive you.
:D
Originally posted by spring6
Just admit you were wrong, we will all forgive you.
:D
Bevan stayed when the others fell away which he needed to do. I'll admit that. But I think Bichel deserves as much praise. He opened his shoulders when he could have become defensive and really relieved much of the pressure from Bevan.
P0RT P0WER
3 Mar 2003, 03:03
Originally posted by Catman
Already replied to similar sort of dribble, but will do it again in the slim hope it might get through to you.
You said Bevan's innings was even better because of our a difficult pitch which made batting hard. But Bichel made 34 off 36. So how bad was the pitch?
You were trying to glorify Bevan's innings even more but have only just ended up digging yourself into a hole.
How thick are you, read the posts before making assumptions, u had the ordascity to bag such a great knock, I was just clarifying the difficult batting conditions and if u watched the game u should of realised.
Of course I will glorify his innings when a ******** like yourself tries to downplay it, i think anyone would who seen Bevans innings tonight, it was one of the all time great knocks, just accept it instead of trying to find flaws in his innings. U continously can not be able to give someone credit when it is due and u seem to only want to critiscize other peoples opinions when they do not agree with what u think.
Digging myself into a hole?
I guess any hole for u is a winner Catman.
Originally posted by P0RT P0WER
How thick are you, read the posts before making assumptions, u had the ordascity to bag such a great knock, I was just clarifying the difficult batting conditions and if u watched the game u should of realised.
Of course I will glorify his innings when a ******** like yourself tries to downplay it, i think anyone would who seen Bevans innings tonight, it was one of the all time great knocks, just accept it instead of trying to find flaws in his innings. U continously can not be able to give someone credit when it is due and u seem to only want to critiscize other peoples opinions when they do not agree with what u think.
Read your own posts. In particular that last comment. Little hypocritical, isn't it?
All I said about Bevan's innings was that he started slowly and it put us back a bit and that Bichel deserves as much praise as Bevan.
By the way catman, I believe they beat us in croquet!
manmountain
3 Mar 2003, 08:07
Originally posted by P0RT P0WER
Bevans innings tonight, it was one of the all time great knocks
Turn it up.
Bichel 3 votes
Bevan 2 votes
Lehmann 1 vote
We wouldn't have won without all of them.
Bevan played well and we wouldn't have won without him but he did leave most of the work to Bichel and Bevan was a bit lucky he stood up to the challenge
If Bichel had got out and then Mcgrath and bevan was not out, but we lost, what would be the feedback then?
Originally posted by Jars458
Bichel 3 votes
Bevan 2 votes
Lehmann 1 vote
We wouldn't have won without all of them.
Bevan played well and we wouldn't have won without him but he did leave most of the work to Bichel and Bevan was a bit lucky he stood up to the challenge
If Bichel had got out and then Mcgrath and bevan was not out, but we lost, what would be the feedback then?
Bevan did increase his scoring rate as soon as Bichel came in, as well as gradually increasing his rate of attacking the bowling the further down the order Australia went.
All this while never letting the required run rate get out of control.
Bichel is a capable batsman and a clean hitter, so it was right to let him hit out while making sure Bevan lasted the whole 50 overs. I'm sure Bevan would have gone all out attack had he been batting with McGrath for the last couple of overs.
Remember six runs of ones and twos in an over, is just as effective and usually less risky than a six and five dot balls. Bevan does this to perfection.
As for people blaming Bevan for being too slow to start, why not have a go at the blokes who got out for 22,1,18,0,0, etc. then there would have been no need to bat cautiously for so long.
All time great ODI batsmen
1. M. Bevan
2. S. Tendulkar
3. V. Richards
red+black
3 Mar 2003, 11:13
Originally posted by jim440
All time great ODI batsmen
1. M. Bevan
2. S. Tendulkar
3. V. Richards
You are pulling our collective legs aren't you?
Originally posted by red+black
You are pulling our collective legs aren't you?
Nope. Doesn't look as pretty and doesn't have the power, but no-one has won as many games for his country as Bevan has - consistantly when we are in trouble.
I can't remember a game where he's failed when it mattered.
Originally posted by jim440
All time great ODI batsmen
1. M. Bevan
2. S. Tendulkar
3. V. Richards
You've got to be joking.
Originally posted by spring6
By the way catman, I believe they beat us in croquet!
Does croquet count as a sport?
Dunno, but they were claiming it in desperation in an article in the paper after we beat them in the soccer. Beautiful.
Bulldog1954
4 Mar 2003, 11:04
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