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King Elvis
9 Jul 2009, 18:27
Wtf is the deal, why are we playing on a square with the corners cut off?
footycool
9 Jul 2009, 19:19
http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww281/footycool/Sophiagardens.jpg
This is the overhead of where there playin, ur right, y r there playin of a square?. Must be how old, small capacity English Grounds are.
DoubleO7
9 Jul 2009, 19:31
Wtf is the deal, why are we playing on a square with the corners cut off?
Because we were humbled by the Bangladeshis, who recorded a five-wicket victory that shocked the cricket world the last time we were here. If we can't even beat the Bangladeshis, what chance do we have against England (English mentality). ;)
Admiral Afterworld
9 Jul 2009, 20:18
"The home of cricket" is also rather square.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6711/lords.png
footycool
9 Jul 2009, 22:25
"The home of cricket" is also rather square.
http://img21.imageshack.us/img21/6711/lords.png
As is said, must be english Grounds
Wtf is the deal, why are we playing on a square with the corners cut off?
http://i728.photobucket.com/albums/ww281/footycool/Sophiagardens.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c343/note_to_self88/divided_by_zero-1.jpg
Buddy the Brave
9 Jul 2009, 22:36
More importantly, why are we playing an Ashes test in a neutral country?
Must be how old, small capacity English Grounds are.
No its new because the commentators can't got 7 minutes without saying what a good job they've done in Cardiff with the new stadium.
Iwas at the ground five years ago- doesn't look at all like it did then....wooden bleachers at the river end, low stands at the Cathedral end, pavillion on one side and pretty much open on the other side with tents and a small scoreboard
Freo Big Fella
9 Jul 2009, 22:57
More importantly, why are we playing an Ashes test in a neutral country?
They're probably getting sick of opening each series with a near-guaranteed loss at Lord's.
DoubleO7
9 Jul 2009, 23:08
More importantly, why are we playing an Ashes test in a neutral country?
The England and Wales cricket team is the cricket team which represents England and Wales. Since 1 January 1997 it has been governed by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).
It aint neutral.
Buddy the Brave
9 Jul 2009, 23:31
The England and Wales cricket team is the cricket team which represents England and Wales. Since 1 January 1997 it has been governed by the England and Wales Cricket Board (ECB).
It aint neutral.
Interesting, didn't know that we are playing Wales as well, that's a bit unfair having to play against two countries.
aaronm46
10 Jul 2009, 00:18
Adelaide has is pretty square isnt it? at least on 2 sides
The_Eagles
10 Jul 2009, 00:28
Interesting, didn't know that we are playing Wales as well, that's a bit unfair having to play against two countries.
If you dont need to show your passport at the border, it's not a real country
jimmy_clement#8
10 Jul 2009, 00:45
Ok. I've held off for too long.
Why don't we play England and Wales and not just England? It's always referred to just England.
Let's be accurate or give the Welsh their own team. Seems a bit crap if you're a Welsh cricketer and you're playing for England.
I'm half Welsh and I'm totally uneducated on how it works it seems. I can't understand how any Welshman would play cricket for 'England', it's insulting.
And I do know its the EWCB, not the ECB, but the team the EWCB governs is England so what's the logic?
My Welsh cousins love nothing more than beating up England in rugby, yet if they have any ambitions to play cricket they have to play for a team referred to as just 'England', and under St George's Cross.
Its a farce unless someone can explain why any Welshman (Simon Jones perhaps) feels fine wearing that blue cap?
Ok. I've held off for too long.
Why don't we play England and Wales and not just England? It's always referred to just England.
Let's be accurate or give the Welsh their own team. Seems a bit crap if you're a Welsh cricketer and you're playing for England.
I'm half Welsh and I'm totally uneducated on how it works it seems. I can't understand how any Welshman would play cricket for 'England', it's insulting.
And I do know its the EWCB, not the ECB, but the team the EWCB governs is England so what's the logic?
My Welsh cousins love nothing more than beating up England in rugby, yet if they have any ambitions to play cricket they have to play for a team referred to as just 'England', and under St George's Cross.
Its a farce unless someone can explain why any Welshman (Simon Jones perhaps) feels fine wearing that blue cap?
The E&WCB have always governed all forms cricket in Wales, from the grass roots level up. If Wales were to have their own team they'd need to start again at the very bottom and Glamorgan would not be able to compete in the County Championship mostly like as well.
Wales did put together a team to play vs England a few years back, Wales actually won on that occasion. The Ireland rugby union team consists of players from all Ireland as one body governs the whole of the Irish rugby system.
On the OP, most grounds are rectangularish as most were football or rugby pitches once upon a time. The Rose Bowl and The Oval are almost perfect oval shapes. Edgbaston and Headingley of the older grounds are quite ovally shaped.
I can't understand how any Welshman would play cricket for 'England', it's insulting.
Probably under the same logic that a bunch of South Africans and Irishmen and an occasional Scotsmancan bring themselves to play for England. Ed Joyce, Eoin MOrgan, Gavin Hamilton, Andrew Strauss, Kevin Pietersen are only the more recent examples of this.
Punchy Bassett
10 Jul 2009, 11:37
The Ashes should be known as the United Nations agaisnt Australia.
Wallaby
10 Jul 2009, 12:37
England is not a country. Neither is Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland.
The country is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Eire).
Well, that's one view.
You can get into an almighty p*ssing argument over whether England is/is not a country - there is no 'lawful' definition. Who makes up the Rules for what a country is? For example, England is not in the UN - the UK is.
By the Act of Union, they are a single entity for the purposes of many 'Government' functions.
So, its fair enough that Welsh and Scots (Mike Denness etc) play, Why the board is then Called 'The England and Wales etc' is beyond me,
Now, the West Indies - that is a group of separate countries brought together to play cricket.
England is not a country. Neither is Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland.
The country is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Eire).
Northern Ireland. Eire refers to the Republic of Ireland that has no connections with the UK.
Now, the West Indies - that is a group of separate countries brought together to play cricket.
True.
Admiral Afterworld
10 Jul 2009, 13:43
England is not a country. Neither is Wales, Scotland or Northern Ireland.
The country is The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland (Eire).
The country is the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.
Wallaby
10 Jul 2009, 14:16
True - OK - minor ****-up re Eire, Northern Ireland.
Doesn't change the point - England, Wales, Scotland and N.I. are all part of one country.
jimmy_clement#8
10 Jul 2009, 14:50
Last point on it from me:
If your Welsh, and you play a sport, it should either be for Wales, or Great Britain/United Kingdom.
This team is clearly 'England', and just 'England'.
Back to the OP... then again don't they have some ground that has a tree in the middle of the field?
Backwards country that is. :P
belfast_bomber
10 Jul 2009, 18:06
Wales did put together a team to play vs England a few years back, Wales actually won on that occasion. The Ireland rugby union team consists of players from all Ireland as one body governs the whole of the Irish rugby system.
As does the Irish cricket team. And indeed the Irish International Rules team.
True - OK - minor ****-up re Eire, Northern Ireland.
Minor?!?!?! I wouldn't tell the Irish that, north or south!
Back to the OP... then again don't they have some ground that has a tree in the middle of the field?
Backwards country that is. :P
That's in Canterbury I think. Not far from you, Mr P@h?
Back to the OP... then again don't they have some ground that has a tree in the middle of the field?
Backwards country that is. :P
That's in Canterbury I think. Not far from you, Mr P@h?
Yes, St Lawrence Ground, Canterbury, Kent.
Unfortunately the original tree caught some disease and got blown over.
They've planted a new one though.
http://www.cricinfo.com/england/content/ground/56869.html
Marklar_33
11 Jul 2009, 19:40
Thats the best thing about Cricket...dimensions dont matter
Never had an oval backyard!